View Full Version : San Diego - great 2-3 team or greatest 2-3 team?
kappys
10-05-2008, 01:01 PM
Well?
Br0nc0Buster
10-05-2008, 01:03 PM
If only we had a defense, this division would be ours.
I still think San Diego is prolly the best team
cutthemdown
10-05-2008, 01:04 PM
They seem gimpy and banged up. Right now they are just another team I guess.
Bronco Bob
10-05-2008, 01:07 PM
Best 2-3 team in football.
Bronx33
10-05-2008, 01:07 PM
bestest
Old Dude
10-05-2008, 01:19 PM
Wow. 2-3. And with the Chiefs being crushed and humiliated aagain today, I'd be feeling so much better if we hadn't been thrashed by those pathetic weaklings last week.
Bronx33
10-05-2008, 01:27 PM
I really think the norv factor is finally showing itself hes gets handed a killer team and it does great (by itself) now hes implamenting his style/game plan ( which he never had) and it's showing. How the f*** LT only gets 35 total yards is just flat stupid.
TexanBob
10-05-2008, 01:35 PM
Makes you wonder if we'll win the AFC West by default.
dbfan4life
10-05-2008, 01:53 PM
bestest
bestest ever!!! Hilarious!
Dudeskey
10-05-2008, 02:02 PM
they're the greaterest team in the... no, the besterest in the AFC West...™
Bronx33
10-05-2008, 02:05 PM
they're the greaterest team in the... no, the besterest in the AFC West...™
touche'
Killericon
10-05-2008, 02:07 PM
Just a 2-3 team.
loborugger
10-05-2008, 02:19 PM
Looks like Norv could very well do to Marty's team what Barry did to Jimmie's team in Dallas. Let the Norv-isation of the Chargers begin!
gyldenlove
10-05-2008, 04:23 PM
Honestly, the Eagles are better. San Diego needed a late comeback over the Faiders - the Faiders!. You can make excuses, but they are just not that good.
Rivers is playing well, LT is playing like an old man, the offensive line is not doing all that well and the defense is about as scary as one of those silly dollar-store ghosts at halloween.
NYBronco
10-05-2008, 04:30 PM
I like it bester when they all think SD is the better team. After all the fumble would have changed everything and NO the three opportunities the SD defense had to stop the Broncos after the fumble does not count.
Popps
10-05-2008, 04:41 PM
Today would have been perfect if the ****-bag Colts wouldn't have backed into that lucky tree and pulled that game out. WOW, did Texas want nothing to do with that win.
Bronx33
10-05-2008, 04:42 PM
Today would have been perfect if the ****-bag Colts wouldn't have backed into that lucky tree and pulled that game out. WOW, did Texas want nothing to do with that win.
It was like watching a keystone cops movie.
Malcontent
10-05-2008, 04:44 PM
It's a Trav-esham-ockery what Norv has done to LT. Bolt fans must be ready to rail him out of towm..Glad I didn't draft him with my 1st pick.
DenverBrit
10-05-2008, 04:44 PM
They be the bestest, until the Broncos bestify them again.
Dudeskey
10-05-2008, 04:45 PM
Looks like Norv could very well do to Marty's team what Barry did to Jimmie's team in Dallas. Let the Norv-isation of the Chargers begin!
They didn't stock up with Norv-Away (http://www.bangcartoon.com/2007/norvaway.htm)...™
MechanicalBull
10-05-2008, 04:47 PM
Boo Hoo :vermeil: http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa103/cbusmike75/LTFigure.jpg
Bronx33
10-05-2008, 05:30 PM
Boo Hoo :vermeil: http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa103/cbusmike75/LTFigure.jpg
He had a almost spotless uniform today as well. ( very life like)
400HZ
10-05-2008, 05:57 PM
God they look like a 7-9 team. Piss poor offensive line, piss poor defense, piss poor performance by LT. Pretty much piss poor across the board. The Norv koolaid is getting pretty weak.
Chris Chambers looks to be done for the year and Phillip looks like his knee is no longer worth a ****.
Paladin
10-05-2008, 06:04 PM
Awwwwwwwwww.....the window is closing..........
KipCorrington25
10-05-2008, 06:08 PM
Tomlinson is so soft when things don't go his way, he's the perfect guy to lead a mediocre team but doesn't have the onions to take them to the next level in crunch time.
Paladin
10-05-2008, 06:11 PM
Sparkies could lose the next two: Pats and Bills. I am pulling for them to beat the tar out of the sparkies....
Then they would be the "bestest" 2-5 team ever......
400HZ
10-05-2008, 06:13 PM
Tomlinson is so soft when things don't go his way, he's the perfect guy to lead a mediocre team but doesn't have the onions to take them to the next level in crunch time.
The mental toughness required for a championship is there for several players, but not enough of them. Talking about San Diego and a championship right now is a joke anyways. I hate how streaky they are.
Bronx33
10-05-2008, 06:20 PM
Iam just not a fan of sitting on the bench when you could support your team from the sideline nobody should get a pass and yet LT gets it from norv.
sirhcyennek81
10-05-2008, 06:21 PM
They are a 2-3 football team. They have talent but have a collection of headcases. I dont care if you are the most talented team to ever exist, if you are 2-3 you are a below average football team.
:Broncos:
400HZ
10-05-2008, 06:39 PM
They are a 2-3 football team. They have talent but have a collection of headcases. I dont care if you are the most talented team to ever exist, if you are 2-3 you are a below average football team.
:Broncos:
They are what the are, but early on in the season maybe they will rediscover themselves or whatever the **** they did last year and string some wins together. They shouldn't be going through that crap every year, but it seems to just come with the territory in San Diego.
400HZ
10-05-2008, 07:01 PM
What made me the most angry was the 10 yards every time they ran that wing T crap. When Chad Pennington runs out to a WR spot, a DB should JACK THE LIVING **** OUT OF HIM instead of doing a halfassed coverage, dance with him at the line routine. We need a DC that can come up with ideas like that and the other awesome ideas that i come up with eveyr game that Cottrell always fails to implenment.
Rock Chalk
10-05-2008, 07:04 PM
Today would have been perfect if the ****-bag Colts wouldn't have backed into that lucky tree and pulled that game out. WOW, did Texas want nothing to do with that win.
Sage Rosenfels after the game: "I feel like I let the other 53 players and 15 or so coaches and the fans down today".
No **** sherlock.
Kaylore
10-05-2008, 07:07 PM
Sage Rosenfels after the game: "I feel like I let the other 53 players and 15 or so coaches and the fans down today".
No **** sherlock.
That was an ugly game. He single handedly gave it away. Can you imagine what the mane would be like here if one of our players did that?~Popps~
kappys
10-05-2008, 07:07 PM
What made me the most angry was the 10 yards every time they ran that wing T crap. When Chad Pennington runs out to a WR spot, a DB should JACK THE LIVING **** OUT OF HIM instead of doing a halfassed coverage, dance with him at the line routine. We need a DC that can come up with ideas like that and the other awesome ideas that i come up with eveyr game that Cottrell always fails to implenment.
I didn't realize Chambers is done for the season until you posted it - that could be the end for hope this season. He is a beast of a receiver and really opened up the field for Rivers.
Norm, like Herm; just isn't a good head coach.
Rock Chalk
10-05-2008, 07:08 PM
That was an ugly game. He single handedly gave it away. Can you imagine what the mane would be like here if one of our players did that?~Popps~
Umm, you have a short memory.
Rams game, opening day, Jake Plummer. End of discussion.
Kaylore
10-05-2008, 07:10 PM
Umm, you have a short memory.
Rams game, opening day, Jake Plummer. End of discussion.
Jake made mistakes to take us out games but he never would go retard on us when we were up two scores. Jake had many problems, but playing with a lead was not one of them. There were times he wouldn't make enough plays to stay on the field on third down and then we'd let opponents back in, but I can't remember a time when we were up double digits and then he started helping the other team come back.
boltaneer
10-05-2008, 07:17 PM
The two biggest problems with the Chargers right now is injuries and flat out unimaginative play calling on both sides of the ball.
Injuries, you can't prevent. That's just bad luck. But I think LT needs to sit for a few games and get his toe right (or in better shape at least). He's obviously not even near a hundred percent and he's hurting the team more by playing IMO.
I don't subscribe to the Norv is a bad head coach thing because he (and Cottrell) showed that they could out coach their opponents last year. But they're failing miserably now though.
BroncoMan4ever
10-05-2008, 07:19 PM
almost every single sportscaster in america will continue to say that they are the best team in the division, and the greatest ever 2-3 team ever.
Jason in LA
10-05-2008, 07:25 PM
I'm really sick of hearing about that team and all their talent. Maybe they haven't been as talented as people have made them out to be. That is still a Mickey Mouse organization. Always has been, always will be.
broncosteven
10-05-2008, 07:31 PM
Well?
That Fin game was very good, there is something wrong with both Jammer and Cromartie, Jammer got owned by the white dude from Stanford all day and Ole'd a Rickey Williams block that lead to a TD on the Wing Tee play inside the 10.
boltaneer
10-05-2008, 07:41 PM
almost every single sportscaster in america will continue to say that they are the best team in the division, and the greatest ever 2-3 team ever.
Well, they'd be wrong. For all the talking heads who said this team could be 4-0 last week, you could easily say they dodged a bullet last week and could easily be 1-4 this week.
The Chargers are not playing well and really don't deserve any praise at this point.
DeuceOfClub
10-05-2008, 07:47 PM
Does Rivers have to act injured every game?
Seriously, you have a big problem when your leaders are the Joker and the Choker.
broncosteven
10-05-2008, 07:50 PM
Well, they'd be wrong. For all the talking heads who said this team could be 4-0 last week, you could easily say they dodged a bullet last week and could easily be 1-4 this week.
The Chargers are not playing well and really don't deserve any praise at this point.
What hurt worse? Losing to the Fins or losing to a team who's only wepon is the Wing T?
boltaneer
10-05-2008, 07:50 PM
Does Rivers have to act injured every game?
I seriously doubt it's an act.
400HZ
10-05-2008, 07:54 PM
Does Rivers have to act injured every game?
Seriously, you have a big problems when your leaders are the Joker and the Choker.
Rivers wasn't great today by any stretch, but playing at the level he is only 7 or 8 months removed from reconstructive knee surgury is impressive. He has the hardnosed mentallity to play championship football, but other players on the squad do not. The guy's not acting injured, he is injured and the worthless protection his O line has been giving is really exacerbating things. Things don't look good in San Diego right now, but having Phillip around and building the team around him for the next 10 years or so gives me some long term optimism.
boltaneer
10-05-2008, 07:59 PM
The guy's not acting injured, he is injured and the worthless protection his O line has been giving is really exacerbating things. .
What's sad is that Shelton and Newberry were playing better than McNeill and Hardwick are now. And that's not easy for me to say because they were sucking it up in week one but were playing great since then.
I understand that you want to get your starters back in but if they're still struggling because of injuries, put the guys who were performing better back in.
sirhcyennek81
10-05-2008, 08:04 PM
SD should sit Tominlinson and let the line beat up opposing defenses with Sproles. Simplicity in offense does not always equal loses, especially when you are trying to protect a QB with a repaired knee and a defense missing one of the better players in the league. But SD wont do that, instead they will rely on the pass and get Rivers kilt.
:Broncos:
400HZ
10-05-2008, 08:19 PM
What's sad is that Shelton and Newberry were playing better than McNeill and Hardwick are now. And that's not easy for me to say because they were sucking it up in week one but were playing great since then.
I understand that you want to get your starters back in but if they're still struggling because of injuries, put the guys who were performing better back in.
Shelton and Newberry were playing like they had something to prove. You can say that about Rivers too, but not many other people on the squad. That's the problem.
the Sparkies are the Kimbo Slice of the NFL. 99% hype.
:D
broncofan2438
10-05-2008, 08:46 PM
Lets be honest, the chuggers are not out of it. They are a good team, Im just not sure why they cant pull it together, well, lets see how it turns out
sixtimeseight
10-05-2008, 09:00 PM
San Diego with Michael Turner and Drew Brees instead of Rivers and LT would be a scary, scary team right now. They'd score like 40 points a game. Thank god for inept management.
Malcontent
10-05-2008, 09:01 PM
San Diego with Michael Turner and Drew Brees instead of Rivers and LT would be a scary, scary team right now. They'd score like 40 points a game. Thank god for inept management.
Wow..never thought of it that way..That would be hard to defense. Hindsight is bla bla. Glad it's not so:yayaya:
NW Bolt Fan
10-05-2008, 09:35 PM
They seem gimpy and banged up. Right now they are just another team I guess.This statment pretty much hits it. As big 'a homer as I am, I fully realize when we're playing like crap. And right now, it's crap. This time last year I was calling for Norv's head if we didn't "show up" to play in Denver- which I fully expected NOT to happen.
Best football in December blah, blah, blah could be comforting, but really, our whole division ain't all that strong. And as "competitive" as it is, it seems it's a two team race- with you all out to a good lead.
NW Bolt Fan
10-05-2008, 09:36 PM
San Diego with Michael Turner and Drew Brees instead of Rivers and LT would be a scary, scary team right now. They'd score like 40 points a game. Thank god for inept management.Gawd yer a DS.
400HZ
10-05-2008, 09:37 PM
San Diego with Michael Turner and Drew Brees instead of Rivers and LT would be a scary, scary team right now. They'd score like 40 points a game. Thank god for inept management.
Turner is in a good system in Atlanta. Sproles has made a lot of plays taking over for him.
TheChamp24
10-05-2008, 11:35 PM
Is Tomlinson hitting that RB wall they usually start to hit around this time?
What San Diego has going for them though is most of their guys are young, like the Broncos.
Rivers will be 27 in December
Chambers is 30
Craig Davis is 23
Vincent Jackson is 25
Antonio Gates is 28
Hardwick is 27
Deilman is 27
McNeill is 24
Olshansky is 26
Castillo is 25
Merriman(if he's the same player) is 24
Phillips is 27
Cromartie is 24
Cason is 22
Kaeding is 26
Scifires is 27
They got a good foundation that should keep them competitive for awhile. Same as the Broncos.
It appears though both have defenses that are questionable at this point.
Blueflame
10-06-2008, 01:13 AM
Boltz are on pace for 8-8...
boltaneer
10-06-2008, 01:24 AM
8-8 might not sound so bad at this point...
LongDongJohnson
10-06-2008, 01:30 AM
bolts are still a very dangerous team.
dont count them out.
i know this doesnt mean much but the bolts are a last second Dante Rosario TD and a Late 2 Point Conversion on a bad call away from being 4-1.
these next few games are crucial for the dolts. they have some hard games coming up.
boltaneer
10-06-2008, 02:49 AM
bolts are still a very dangerous team.
dont count them out.
i know this doesnt mean much but the bolts are a last second Dante Rosario TD and a Late 2 Point Conversion on a bad call away from being 4-1.
these next few games are crucial for the dolts. they have some hard games coming up.
The next three games are a killer.
Patriots - No Brady but they're looking better after the bye and they just have the Chargers number.
Bills - Traveling all the way to Buffalo and playing a very good Bills team is not looking good at this point.
London and the Saints - Who knows how bad/well they'll play after that long trip. You know Brees will be a little extra motivated to beat his old team as well.
If Norv doesn't wake the F up, 2-6 is a real possibility.
TheReverend
10-06-2008, 07:52 AM
The next three games are a killer.
Patriots - No Brady but they're looking better after the bye and they just have the Chargers number.
Bills - Traveling all the way to Buffalo and playing a very good Bills team is not looking good at this point.
London and the Saints - Who knows how bad/well they'll play after that long trip. You know Brees will be a little extra motivated to beat his old team as well.
If Norv doesn't wake the F up, 2-6 is a real possibility.
Here's to hoping he and Cotrell keep their jobs.
All hail the great Norv Turner :notworthy
theAPAOps5
10-06-2008, 07:55 AM
I would prefer Norv to get this team to 3-5. I think it would help him keep his job something that I would prefer to happen.
Old Dude
10-06-2008, 08:02 AM
The next three games are a killer.
Patriots - No Brady but they're looking better after the bye and they just have the Chargers number.
Bills - Traveling all the way to Buffalo and playing a very good Bills team is not looking good at this point.
London and the Saints - Who knows how bad/well they'll play after that long trip. You know Brees will be a little extra motivated to beat his old team as well.
If Norv doesn't wake the F up, 2-6 is a real possibility.
I think the Chargers will beat the Pats easily enough. It might depend on the condition of Chambers. How's he doing?
Buffalo is a completely different team, depending on whether it's Edwards or Losman behind the Center. Edwards went out with a concussion. Assuming he's okay and available, the Bills will be a tough foe. That could be a tossup.
I'd hate to travel all the way to London in the middle of the season like this. All that disruption alone could even things out. But I'd be more concerned about the focus and disruption before & after.
I think the Chargers will go 2-1 over the next three and should be sitting at 4-4 at the halfway point. They won't have any real margin of error from that point and wil have to turn it up, but they were able to do that last year, so ... we'll see. Too soon for them to panic, but the concern is legit.
Atlas
10-06-2008, 08:16 AM
The next three games are a killer.
Patriots - No Brady but they're looking better after the bye and they just have the Chargers number.
Bills - Traveling all the way to Buffalo and playing a very good Bills team is not looking good at this point.
London and the Saints - Who knows how bad/well they'll play after that long trip. You know Brees will be a little extra motivated to beat his old team as well.
If Norv doesn't wake the F up, 2-6 is a real possibility.
Nahh They'll win one of those games.
socalorado
10-06-2008, 08:22 AM
IS Ron Rivera still coaching with SD?
I honestly am not sure. just curious.
cmhargrove
10-06-2008, 08:24 AM
The Chargers will get it together by the end of the season. When they finally remember how good they are, they will start rolling again.
Although, it's so interesting to watch the "parity" in the league these days.
The SD defense loses Merriman and they look average again.
The Pats lose Brady and are average again.
Many teams just had one main position and look very different this year.
i guess the same goes for us - our new OT's make us a completely different team.
400HZ
10-06-2008, 08:40 AM
IS Ron Rivera still coaching with SD?
I honestly am not sure. just curious.
Yes. Surprisingly he didn't even interview for any coordinator positions. Two short seasons ago he was a hot candidate for several head coaching vacancies. His unit hasn't exactly been tearing it up though. If it comes to Cottrell getting canned midway through the season, which I really doubt happens, then I think OLB coach John Pagano would be the one taking over. He's one of those guys that has been groomed.
ScottXray
10-06-2008, 08:41 AM
Don't look now but WE have to play Miami and NE and the Bills too. Miami is at home but they are obviously much better than everyone thought before the season.
New england is still a question mark but both the NE and Bills games are probably going to have them favored.
NO gimmees....the team found that out last week.
Beantown Bronco
10-06-2008, 09:15 AM
Don't look now but WE have to play Miami and NE and the Bills too. Miami is at home but they are obviously much better than everyone thought before the season.
New england is still a question mark but both the NE and Bills games are probably going to have them favored.
NO gimmees....the team found that out last week.
The Miami game should be a carbon copy of yesterday's game, at least for the Bronco defense. All Miami can do is run the ball and throw short passes. No need for deep safety coverage in this one, so cheat everyone up and let the DBs man up against their WRs.
broncofan2438
10-06-2008, 09:16 AM
Yea, its going to be a tough stretch for the Dolts here for the next three games. It just doesnt make sense that they are stuggling, they have some great players
broncocalijohn
10-06-2008, 09:56 AM
Boo Hoo :vermeil: http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa103/cbusmike75/LTFigure.jpg
are you trying to piss off Bronco Jamus again? LT is soo life like there (sorry Jamus but it is never old).
BroncoBen
10-06-2008, 10:00 AM
Yea, its going to be a tough stretch for the Dolts here for the next three games. It just doesnt make sense that they are stuggling, they have some great players
Coaching ?? The Chargers could'nt figure out how to stop the Dolphins Spread Offense. Blame that on coaching.
broncocalijohn
10-06-2008, 10:12 AM
What made me the most angry was the 10 yards every time they ran that wing T crap. When Chad Pennington runs out to a WR spot, a DB should JACK THE LIVING **** OUT OF HIM instead of doing a halfassed coverage, dance with him at the line routine. We need a DC that can come up with ideas like that and the other awesome ideas that i come up with eveyr game that Cottrell always fails to implenment.
No kidding. I would also put a safety on him to do the dirty work and have the CB commit either waiting for the sweep or hit the inside while Brown is studder stepping his way to a hole. A way to end PENNINGTON from pursuing the wideout is to put a linebacker on him and just crush him on the line of scrimmage. Pennington is a big guy but no way Tuna wants him to be injured on this Wild cat formation. By the time they get to Denver, we or some other team will have it figured out.
broncocalijohn
10-06-2008, 10:26 AM
Gawd yer a DS.
i totally agree on Sixtimeseight being a DS. Systems fit better people as we know with running backs (anyone want Orlandis Gary outside of Denver now?).
BroncoMan4ever
10-06-2008, 10:40 AM
The next three games are a killer.
Patriots - No Brady but they're looking better after the bye and they just have the Chargers number.
Bills - Traveling all the way to Buffalo and playing a very good Bills team is not looking good at this point.
London and the Saints - Who knows how bad/well they'll play after that long trip. You know Brees will be a little extra motivated to beat his old team as well.
If Norv doesn't wake the F up, 2-6 is a real possibility.
things could be worse. at least you're not waiting for Herm Edwards and Carl Peterson to wake the F up.