A month out, who's got it?

[JCMElway]

Who will be president?

[Hotrod]

I fear the socialists have it.

[Old Dude]

I think we'll beat the Chiefs by at least 30.

[Florida_Bronco]

I don't see any possible way McCain can pull this out. One of Obama's biggest ad campaigns is talking about how closely he is aligned with Bush, and that alone will probably sink him.

[ScottXray]

Have to see about the October surprise(s).

I wouldn't be surprised if the market somehow stabilises after the bill giving the treasury to wall street passes. Then throw in a major international crisis to re-FOCUS the population.

I guess we'll see how manipulated we are.

[theAPAOps5]

It will be interesting to see what happens after tonight. Either McCain and his team were able to mold Palin into something that at least is servicable in the VP debate crash course or its another bunch of painful talking in cirlces like what happened on the Katie Couric interviews.

[frerottenextelway]

McCain has given up on Michigan and going to Missouri to defend.

It's over, there's too much early voting. A good example is Obama tied Clinton in California on votes that were cast on Super Tuesday, but lost the state by almost 10 points.

[Rigs11]

McCain has given up on Michigan and going to Missouri to defend.

It's over, there's too much early voting. A good example is Obama tied Clinton in California on votes that were cast on Super Tuesday, but lost the state by almost 10 points.

florida and indiana leaning obama.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Barring the usual GOP electoral dirty tricks and/or a fresh Bin Laden video, it's Obama in a landslide.

[DomCasual]

I think McCain has a good chance of carrying Utah.

I'll keep my ear to the ground, and keep you all informed.

[Bronco Bob]

florida and indiana leaning obama.

Real Clear Politics already has Florida and Ohio for Obama.

Based on their site, I predict Missouri will flip over to Obama
before Indiana does.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=10

Interesting that they have 10 states that went for Bush in 2004
now in Obama's column.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I think McCain has a good chance of carrying Utah.

I'll keep my ear to the ground, and keep you all informed.

:rofl:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Real Clear Politics already has Florida and Ohio for Obama.

Based on their site, I predict Missouri will flip over to Obama
before Indiana does.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=10

Interesting that they have 10 states that went for Bush in 2004
now in Obama's column.

It's pretty clear that Americans understand which party is to blame for our current economic crisis - Hotrod's and W*GS' disinfo campaigns notwithstanding.

http://www.bartcop.com/fiscal-conservatives-808.jpg

[W*GS]

LABF with the selective blinders. Again.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

W*GS trying to save face and cover the GOP's flank again.

[Hogan11]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=898&dateline=1221291033

This really does say it all.

[Traveler]

It's pretty clear that Americans understand which party is to blame for our current economic crisis - Hotrod's and W*GS' disinfo campaigns notwithstanding.

http://www.bartcop.com/fiscal-conservatives-808.jpg

Nice! :thumbsup: I'll have to borrow this for the folks on the other site (the one Spider keeps getting bannned from), if you don't mind.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Nice! :thumbsup: I'll have to borrow this for the folks on the other site (the one Spider keeps getting bannned from), if you don't mind.

My pleasure.

Pass it on. :thumbs:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

<center>http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Icons/evmap.png (http://www.electoral-vote.com/)</center>

[W*GS]

Yep...

Partisan caricature is LABF's middle name...

[Crushaholic]

McCain is DOOOOOOMED...:rofl:

I think people will lean towards the "experience" factor with the presidency.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

"Partisan caricature" from a guy with W*GS' avatar and myopic criticism of Obama/free pass for McCain?

That's rich. :laugh:

[Hogan11]

McCain is DOOOOOOMED...:rofl:

I think people will lean towards the "experience" factor with the presidency.

I think you're gonna be disappointed if you really believe that.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I think you're gonna be disappointed if you really believe that.

He's counting on the usual GOP dirty tricks to save gramps.

After all, the dirty tricks department didn't let him down in 2000 and 2004.

[BroncoBuff]

http://www.bartcop.com/fiscal-conservatives-808.jpg
No blinders there, W*GS ... that's just fact.

And W had a bicameral GOP majority until Jauary 2007 ... so no excuses.

[spdirty]

Obama is peaking too soon. October, when voters start to pay attention, and the Wright, Pfleger, Ayers, and all of his other acquaintances get recycled and public, we will see what happens.

McCain mightve sunk himself by voting for this bill and saying nothing rather than "making the porkers famous." Kinda tells you where he stands although this election is not about him.

If I had to guess Id say the socialist wins, but a month is a long time in politics. And hopefully Diebold comes through for the good of the country.

[W*GS]

No blinders there, W*GS ... that's just fact.

Cherry-picked and of dubious value.

Of course, anything that depicts Clinton as a saint has LABF all aroused...

[Drek]

Obama is peaking too soon. October, when voters start to pay attention, and the Wright, Pfleger, Ayers, and all of his other acquaintances get recycled and public, we will see what happens.

McCain mightve sunk himself by voting for this bill and saying nothing rather than "making the porkers famous." Kinda tells you where he stands although this election is not about him.

If I had to guess Id say the socialist wins, but a month is a long time in politics. And hopefully Diebold comes through for the good of the country.

Obama peaked four years ago and the luster hasn't tarnished yet.

And the Wright/Ayers/Rezko bull**** has yet to get a single bit of traction. But if the GOP starts trotting those personal attacks out how long do you think it'd be until we see all kinds of response ads pointing out McCain's public ties to our previous economic crisis of this variety, the S&L scandal of the late 80's and early 90's which McCain was neck deep in?

And there isn't a socialist party in this country of any legitimacy. The fact that you hope a corporate entity can actually STEAL the rights of American voters from them however is a pretty disgusting viewpoint. You have no right to be an American if you ask me.

[Rohirrim]

And hopefully Diebold comes through for the good of the country.

That basically sums up the value system of the Right.

[TailgateNut]

And hopefully Diebold comes through for the good of the country.



.....voter fraud like you tried during the primaries. Yours wouldn't have been quite as influential

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

And there isn't a socialist party in this country of any legitimacy.

And what an ironic comment from a guy who is a cheerleader for an administration that has nationalized more private enterprises than Hugo Chavez, eh?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

That basically sums up the value system of the Right.

They don't even try to hide their contempt for democracy.

[BroncoBuff]

Cherry-picked and of dubious value.

Of course, anything that depicts Clinton as a saint has LABF all aroused...
Facts are stubborn things, W*GS ... especially numbers facts. And those defecit/surplus numbers were accurate.

The sad thing is that ... W taking over the largest budget surplus ever and after just 5 years with an all-GOP Congress turning it into the largest budget deficit ever .... is just maybe the #5 worst thing he's done as president.

Worst.President.Ever.

[gunns]

I think McCain has a good chance of carrying Utah.

I'll keep my ear to the ground, and keep you all informed.

LOL Ya think?

[SoCalBronco]

Obama has the edge at this point. McCain has a hill to climb to prevail, although it is not a steep one.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Obama has the edge at this point. McCain has a hill to climb to prevail, although it is not a steep one.

"Not a steep one?"

Have you checked an electoral map lately? :giggle:

[BroncoBuff]

"Not a steep one?"

Have you checked an electoral map lately? :giggle:
The McCain campaign abandoned Michigan lock stock and barrel today ... cancelled all the TV and radio buys, closed their offices and reassigned staff.

THAT'S a big story.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

The McCain campaign abandoned Michigan lock stock and barrel today ... cancelled all the TV and radio buys, closed their offices and reassigned staff.

THAT'S a big story.

And how about Obama leading in North Carolina? :~ohyah!:

[gunns]

Obama is peaking too soon. October, when voters start to pay attention, and the Wright, Pfleger, Ayers, and all of his other acquaintances get recycled and public, we will see what happens.

McCain mightve sunk himself by voting for this bill and saying nothing rather than "making the porkers famous." Kinda tells you where he stands although this election is not about him.

If I had to guess Id say the socialist wins, but a month is a long time in politics. And hopefully Diebold comes through for the good of the country.

Yeah, we're all aware of the good Diebold did for the country over the past 8 years.

I think the country is not buying McCains claims of being different from Bush. If you want to brand it socialist so be it. I'll take it over a lying dictatorship anyday.

[SoCalBronco]

"Not a steep one?"

Have you checked an electoral map lately? :giggle:

He's down by about 4 nationally. That's not much. The electoral vote must follow the popular one if the popular winner wins by 0.5% or greater. I think McCain will end up winning Florida despite Obama's recent surge there. Obama is in position to pick up VA, CO and maybe NV so McCain is going to have to win one fairly big blue state such as PA for example. That's tough but not unrealistic.

Just a couple weeks ago, McCain was leading in most electoral projections, be it 538, realclearpolitics, etc. Things have shifted in the last two weeks as a result of the market, bailout etc., but that just illustrates the fluidity of the race.

As I said, McCain has a hill to climb to win, but to pretend that its a huge task is just silliness. This is a very bad year for the GOP and yet McCain is down only 4 or 5 points. That's not a bad deal. Not at all. Its VERY possible he can prevail. I hope he can, but we'll see.

[BroncoBuff]

He's down by about 4 nationally. That's not much. The electoral vote must follow the popular one if the popular winner wins by 0.5% or greater. I think McCain will end up winning Florida despite Obama's recent surge there. Obama is in position to pick up VA, CO and maybe NV so McCain is going to have to win one fairly big blue state such as PA for example. That's tough but not unrealistic.

Just a couple weeks ago, McCain was leading in most electoral projections, be it 538, realclearpolitics, etc. Things have shifted in the last two weeks as a result of the market, bailout etc., but that just illustrates the fluidity of the race.

As I said, McCain has a hill to climb to win, but to pretend that its a huge task is just silliness. This is a very bad year for the GOP and yet McCain is down only 4 or 5 points. That's not a bad deal. Not at all. Its VERY possible he can prevail. I hope he can, but we'll see.
You're burying the lead, sir ... he's 4 points behind in Florida. Without Florida, the game is over. In fact, the 538 guy was on Chris Matthews the other day, and McCain is tied or trailing in every key state ... I think he was closest in Wisconsin. You cling to that "4 point national" difference as a sign of hope, but I've seen as high as 9 points this week. And although you obviously understand that state-by-state is where the action is, you're missing the little pictures. McCain should have locked down states like Missouri and North Carolina by now, but he's trailing in both. So unless you're relying on the Bradley Effect, seeing that close calls rarely resolve for incumbent parties, this scenario looks pretty bad for McCain. Especially seeing that the economy will almost certainly be issue #1 this last month.

One thing I will miss without McCain as president: I really liked his promise: "I will make them famous, you will know their names." Right about now, with pork dripping from the Senate Wall-Street-Rescue bill, I wanna know their names. Every f'ing senator who loaded up that bill with nonsense.

[spdirty]

I'll take it over a lying dictatorship anyday.

Will you shut the f@ck up over a ****ing dictatorship? There is no dictatorship or else we wouldnt be having a ****ing election to decide who Bush's replacement will be. So quit it with that stupid ass non point.

[spdirty]

Obama peaked four years ago and the luster hasn't tarnished yet.

And the Wright/Ayers/Rezko bull**** has yet to get a single bit of traction. But if the GOP starts trotting those personal attacks out how long do you think it'd be until we see all kinds of response ads pointing out McCain's public ties to our previous economic crisis of this variety, the S&L scandal of the late 80's and early 90's which McCain was neck deep in?

And there isn't a socialist party in this country of any legitimacy. The fact that you hope a corporate entity can actually STEAL the rights of American voters from them however is a pretty disgusting viewpoint. You have no right to be an American if you ask me.

Coming from someone with the brilliance to claim that America is basically no different from Nazi Germany, well, I dont give a shlt what you think. And once again, go **** yourself.

[Bronco Bob]

Can we revise our poll on which right winger will crack first?:~ohyah!:

[SJ Bronco]

Can we revise our poll on which right winger will crack first?:~ohyah!:

looks to me like spdirty did already...:thumbs:

[BroncoBuff]

I'm tempted to say "spdirty has reached new lows."

But I can't ... cause he's been there before.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I'm tempted to say "spdirty has reached new lows."

But I can't ... cause he's been there before.

Yep.

He's always been the poster boy for the "values" and the "restore honor and integrity" party.

http://www.bartcop.com/oac-suffer.jpg

[Drek]

Coming from someone with the brilliance to claim that America is basically no different from Nazi Germany, well, I dont give a shlt what you think. And once again, go **** yourself.
No, I said George Bush and Dick Cheney have ran their administration no different than Hitler ran the Nazi party in Germany.

I'm sorry you're too stupid to get the difference. You're scum. You attach your allegiances to a political machine and act like your life is somehow better when they win even though their policies do nothing but diminish the quality of your life and steal your civil liberties. You are exactly the kind of person the Nazis loved to have as a citizen. In short, you're a sheep, and a particularly sour one at that.

[TailgateNut]

No, I said George Bush and Dick Cheney have ran their administration no different than Hitler ran the Nazi party in Germany.

I'm sorry you're too stupid to get the difference. You're scum. You attach your allegiances to a political machine and act like your life is somehow better when they win even though their policies do nothing but diminish the quality of your life and steal your civil liberties. You are exactly the kind of person the Nazis loved to have as a citizen. In short, you're a sheep, and a particularly sour one at that.


Don't hold back! :thumbsup:

[Denver Crush]

No, I said George Bush and Dick Cheney have ran their administration no different than Hitler ran the Nazi party in Germany.

I'm sorry you're too stupid to get the difference. You're scum. You attach your allegiances to a political machine and act like your life is somehow better when they win even though their policies do nothing but diminish the quality of your life and steal your civil liberties. You are exactly the kind of person the Nazis loved to have as a citizen. In short, you're a sheep, and a particularly sour one at that.

Rep!

[JCMElway]

Obama has the edge at this point. McCain has a hill to climb to prevail, although it is not a steep one.

Socal, you didn't vote in the poll yet.

[TexanBob]

I stand by my predictions:

Obama will win with 335 electoral votes.

By 2012, gasoline will be $7/gal.
Islamists will set off a nuclear device in Boston by 2010.
Taxes will go up. Jobs will be cut.
Environmental regulations will choke businesses.
And after four years of unchecked liberalism, voters will elect a Republican president in 2012.

[Beantown Bronco]

I stand by my predictions:

Obama will win with 335 electoral votes.

By 2012, gasoline will be $7/gal.
Islamists will set off a nuclear device in Boston by 2010.
Taxes will go up. Jobs will be cut.
Environmental regulations will choke businesses.
And after four years of unchecked liberalism, voters will elect a Republican president in 2012.

This better be one of those damn pre-game reverse-mojo posts that everyone here seems to love so much.

[SJ Bronco]

Well, I predicted in 2000 that we'd be in a senseless war, the economy would be failing and religion and racism would be more accepted principals to life than charity and freedom, so maybe you'll be as right as I was. Who knows????

[TailgateNut]

I stand by my predictions:

Obama will win with 335 electoral votes.

By 2012, gasoline will be $7/gal.
Islamists will set off a nuclear device in Boston by 2010.
Taxes will go up. Jobs will be cut.
Environmental regulations will choke businesses.
And after four years of unchecked liberalism, voters will elect a Republican president in 2012.



You forgot: and due to the chemicals in the water supply, Texans will still be clueless ****s in 2015.

[Paladin]

You forgot: and due to the chemicals in the water supply, Texans will still be clueless ****s in 2015.

LOL

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You forgot: and due to the chemicals in the water supply, Texans will still be clueless ****s in 2015.

ROFL! ^5

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

No, I said George Bush and Dick Cheney have ran their administration no different than Hitler ran the Nazi party in Germany.

I'm sorry you're too stupid to get the difference. You're scum. You attach your allegiances to a political machine and act like your life is somehow better when they win even though their policies do nothing but diminish the quality of your life and steal your civil liberties. You are exactly the kind of person the Nazis loved to have as a citizen. In short, you're a sheep, and a particularly sour one at that.

QFT. :thumbsup:

[spdirty]

No, I said George Bush and Dick Cheney have ran their administration no different than Hitler ran the Nazi party in Germany.

Which is more out and ou bullshlt, you have no basis of fact for your bullshlt, and once again, the fact that they will willingly leave their current positions in only 3 months proves that you are full of bullshlt.

I'm sorry you're too stupid to get the difference. You're scum.


Listen you little plssant, you want to meet me somewhere and tell me to my face what you so willingly say behind a message board, Im in Bailey Colorado. Ill meet you anywhere from Castle Rock to Longmont and let you tell me that to my face. And Im not a tough guy, Im not a fighter, Im out of shape, but the invite is extended shlthead if you have the stones. Should be an easy ass whuppin for someone so brave behind your computer.


You attach your allegiances to a political machine and act like your life is somehow better when they win even though their policies do nothing but diminish the quality of your life and steal your civil liberties. You are exactly the kind of person the Nazis loved to have as a citizen. In short, you're a sheep, and a particularly sour one at that.

My life IS better. My income has improved 300% in the last 8. My civil liberties have never been violated, except from a corrupt DA and a bunch of man hating lesbians. I can get into this with you, we can see who is the party of 2nd amendment rights, property rights, rights to school choice, rights to keep more of your money, rights to religious freedom, and who wants to dig deeper into your pockets, give you no right to protect yourself even during a breakin, yeah Hitler was for gun control, Hitler was also against religious freedom, ah **** it, you are way way way too stupid to understand. Just lap up all the bullshlt that Bush is Hilter, vote for change although you have no idea what change is coming, and continue to be stupid. In fact, your punishment for being such a ****ing moron is that you have to live the rest of your life in that empty space with sits between your houlders. Enjoy.

[spdirty]

Don't hold back! :thumbsup:

**** you.

[spdirty]

Rep!

**** you.

[spdirty]

I stand by my predictions:

Obama will win with 335 electoral votes.

By 2012, gasoline will be $7/gal.
Islamists will set off a nuclear device in Boston by 2010.
Taxes will go up. Jobs will be cut.
Environmental regulations will choke businesses.
And after four years of unchecked liberalism, voters will elect a Republican president in 2012.

your cool.

[spdirty]

QFT. :thumbsup:

and **** you.

[Rohirrim]

I stand by my predictions:

Obama will win with 335 electoral votes.

By 2012, gasoline will be $7/gal.
Islamists will set off a nuclear device in Boston by 2010.
Taxes will go up. Jobs will be cut.
Environmental regulations will choke businesses.
And after four years of unchecked liberalism, voters will elect a Republican president in 2012.

I knew L. Ron was still alive. ;D

[Rohirrim]

http://shannon-oneill.net/images/meltdown.jpg
We have meltdown.

[spdirty]

http://shannon-oneill.net/images/meltdown.jpg
We have meltdown.

happens almost every day in this forum, mostly from folks on your side of the aisle.

[Broncosfreak_56]

http://shannon-oneill.net/images/meltdown.jpg
We have meltdown.

:spit:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://shannon-oneill.net/images/meltdown.jpg
We have meltdown.

ROFL!

Ever notice how people on the far right are always mirror images of their candidates' personalities?

[gunns]

Cherry-picked and of dubious value.

Of course, anything that depicts Clinton as a saint has LABF all aroused...

Anything that doesn't has WIGS posting.....his own opinion, over and over and over again. And we're suppose to take it as fact....because WIGS said it and thinks it. He rarely backs up what he says, just believe it, he said it. He still doesn't realize that we've all figured out what he believes and backs, all except him. Bi-partisan? Count WIGS out.

[gunns]

Will you shut the f@ck up over a ****ing dictatorship? There is no dictatorship or else we wouldnt be having a ****ing election to decide who Bush's replacement will be. So quit it with that stupid ass non point.

EWWWW, someone is testy. Worried that you might catch something "liberal" should Obama be elected? You say "I'll vote for 4 more", I say "dictatorship".

[gunns]

I stand by my predictions:

Obama will win with 335 electoral votes.

By 2012, gasoline will be $7/gal.
Islamists will set off a nuclear device in Boston by 2010.
Taxes will go up. Jobs will be cut.
Environmental regulations will choke businesses.
And after four years of unchecked liberalism, voters will elect a Republican president in 2012.

Will the public have forgotten what Bush and his legislature did by then? And will they blame the current President for what it takes to get back on track? Jobs will be cut? Is that different from millions of jobs that have been lost on Bush's watch with a tax cut?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Anything that doesn't has WIGS posting.....his own opinion, over and over and over again. And we're suppose to take it as fact....because WIGS said it and thinks it. He rarely backs up what he says, just believe it, he said it. He still doesn't realize that we've all figured out what he believes and backs, all except him. Bi-partisan? Count WIGS out.

Anything that gives Clinton credit for anything sends W*GS into a frothing fit.

[Bronco Bob]

Anything that gives Clinton credit for anything sends W*GS into a frothing fit.

Well, I do have to have some sympathy for W*gs though.
After all, Clinton did kill W*gs' puppy.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Well, I do have to have some sympathy for W*gs though.
After all, Clinton did kill W*gs' puppy.

So you would think, eh? :D

[gunns]

happens almost every day in this forum, mostly from folks on your side of the aisle.

Really? I think we have the King of the Meltdown right here in this thread.

Will you shut the f@ck up over a ****ing dictatorship? There is no dictatorship or else we wouldnt be having a ****ing election to decide who Bush's replacement will be. So quit it with that stupid ass non point.


Coming from someone with the brilliance to claim that America is basically no different from Nazi Germany, well, I dont give a shlt what you think. And once again, go **** yourself.

Which is more out and ou bullshlt, you have no basis of fact for your bullshlt, and once again, the fact that they will willingly leave their current positions in only 3 months proves that you are full of bullshlt.

Listen you little plssant, you want to meet me somewhere and tell me to my face what you so willingly say behind a message board, Im in Bailey Colorado. Ill meet you anywhere from Castle Rock to Longmont and let you tell me that to my face. And Im not a tough guy, Im not a fighter, Im out of shape, but the invite is extended shlthead if you have the stones. Should be an easy ass whuppin for someone so brave behind your computer.


My life IS better. My income has improved 300% in the last 8. My civil liberties have never been violated, except from a corrupt DA and a bunch of man hating lesbians. I can get into this with you, we can see who is the party of 2nd amendment rights, property rights, rights to school choice, rights to keep more of your money, rights to religious freedom, and who wants to dig deeper into your pockets, give you no right to protect yourself even during a breakin, yeah Hitler was for gun control, Hitler was also against religious freedom, ah **** it, you are way way way too stupid to understand. Just lap up all the bullshlt that Bush is Hilter, vote for change although you have no idea what change is coming, and continue to be stupid. In fact, your punishment for being such a ****ing moron is that you have to live the rest of your life in that empty space with sits between your houlders. Enjoy.


**** you.

**** you.

and **** you.

[spdirty]

EWWWW, someone is testy. Worried that you might catch something "liberal" should Obama be elected? You say "I'll vote for 4 more", I say "dictatorship".

well maybe you should get a dictionary and look up "dictatorship."

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

P.M. Carpenter Exclusively on BuzzFlash.com for Saturday, October 4. "Indeed, add up all the averaged probabilities and safe states and trends and positive toss-ups and Obama currently stands at a whopping 353 electoral votes to McCain's 185. That is a whole lot of electoral territory for McCain to recoup, and his every retraction, such as in Michigan, only means more Obama resources poured into shoring up other probabilities and toss-ups." (http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/carpenter/202)

[Rohirrim]

P.M. Carpenter Exclusively on BuzzFlash.com for Saturday, October 4. "Indeed, add up all the averaged probabilities and safe states and trends and positive toss-ups and Obama currently stands at a whopping 353 electoral votes to McCain's 185. That is a whole lot of electoral territory for McCain to recoup, and his every retraction, such as in Michigan, only means more Obama resources poured into shoring up other probabilities and toss-ups." (http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/carpenter/202)

The funniest bit I heard was McNasty's spin Dr., that little Ms. Pfoofernoof (or whatever the hell her name is) was on Maddow last night (Rachel dismantled her) saying that McNasty's pull-out (ewww) in Michigan was no big deal and Obama will probably be pulling out of states too. I was thinking, "Yeah, like California, New York, etc. where he's already got them sewn up." ;D

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

The funniest bit I heard was McNasty's spin Dr., that little Ms. Pfoofernoof (or whatever the hell her name is) was on Maddow last night (Rachel dismantled her) saying that McNasty's pull-out (ewww) in Michigan was no big deal and Obama will probably be pulling out of states too. I was thinking, "Yeah, like California, New York, etc. where he's already got them sewn up." ;D

:laugh:

Maybe McBush can use her to write his concession speech. :~ohyah!:

[gunns]

well maybe you should get a dictionary and look up "dictatorship."

I know what dictatorship means or I wouldn't have said it. But here's the definition. I defines exactly the Bush admin and a lying one to boot.

1. a country, government, or the form of government in which absolute power is exercised by a dictator.
2. absolute, imperious, or overbearing power or control.
3. the office or position held by a dictator.

a form of government in which absolute power is concentrated in a dictator or a small clique b: a government organization or group in which absolute power is so concentrated c: a despotic state

[Rigs11]

well maybe you should get a dictionary and look up "dictatorship."

Just ask your buddy dubya he knows.

'If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.'

-Dubya

[Rohirrim]

Just ask your buddy dubya he knows.

'If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.'

-Dubya

Now they have a vid of McCain saying the same thing. Birds of a feather.

[gunns]

Just ask your buddy dubya he knows.

'If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.'

-Dubya

Yep and unfortunately it was too damn easy for him.

[TailgateNut]

**** you.


If I ever were to "**** you" you'ld join a friggin monestary. Go play with your post hole digger.

[SoCalBronco]

Socal, you didn't vote in the poll yet.

There wasn't a Foneco option. :)

I stand by the opinions in my posts.

[lazarus4444]

wow looks like the people of the Orange Mane overwhelmingly endorse Obama, interesting....

[Spider]

wow looks like the people of the Orange Mane overwhelmingly endorse Obama, interesting....

the poll didnt ask about endorsing , it asked who has the win 30 days out

[W*GS]

wow looks like the people of the Orange Mane overwhelmingly endorse Obama, interesting....

"Endorse"? Hardly.

[SoCalBronco]

wow looks like the people of the Orange Mane overwhelmingly endorse Obama, interesting....

As Spider noted, this poll isnt about endorsing anyone, rather it is opinions about who they think will win. I suspect, however, that the overwhelming majority of the board endorses Mr. Obama as well. I remember having this argument over the last few years with Hogan about which side "controls" the board. This was a pretty conservative board back in 2002, but I'd say its certainly left of center now. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Perhaps that reflects a combination of more liberals on this forum than before and more people in general who are quite angry about the current administration, but I suspect if we took a vote right now, about 85% of this subforum would go for Obama and probably about 65-70% of the forum as a whole.

[Spider]

"Endorse"? Hardly.

yeah everyone knows how deep your loyalty to the republican party runs

[Bronco Bob]

yeah everyone knows how deep your loyalty to the republican party runs

The only one who posts regularly here that leans farther right than W*gs is Spdirty.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=1839148&postcount=245

[W*GS]

The only one who posts regularly here that leans farther right than W*gs is Spdirty.

Just how far right is that, compared to the GOP and Democrats?

How much farther right am I than you are left?

[W*GS]

yeah everyone knows how deep your loyalty to the republican party runs

I'm not loyal to any political party.

[gunns]

I'm not loyal to any political party.

Yet you consistently defend the Republican party and wig out over anything positive about the Democratic party. And don't pull your crap about proving it. If you want that, you do it.

[Bronco Bob]

Just how far right is that, compared to the GOP and Democrats?

How much farther right am I than you are left?

I never tried to hide the fact I lean left.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

The only one who posts regularly here that leans farther right than W*gs is Spdirty.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=1839148&postcount=245

True that.

At least spdirty, to his credit, doesn't try to deny who he is and what he stands for.

W*GS has always been a republican with commitment phobia. He will always be remembered as Bush's "Director of Deflection" on the Mane.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

wow looks like the people of the Orange Mane overwhelmingly endorse Obama, interesting....

It's more than interesting - it's downright amazing.

When I first joined this forum, it was pretty much me against the Bush supporters.

TJ and the mods were getting bombarded on a daily basis with complaints from right-wing cry babies who were lobbying them to vote me off the island.

What a difference a few years of Bushonomics makes. ;)

[Drek]

Which is more out and ou bullshlt, you have no basis of fact for your bullshlt, and once again, the fact that they will willingly leave their current positions in only 3 months proves that you are full of bullshlt.

I only have the basis of historical governing tactics. We'll see how peacefully Bush leaves office, as it is now he just tried another fear tactics play for unilateral executive branch power just 3 months before he was set to leave office.

If it wasn't for the fact that probably 20 million people in this country would simultaneously grab up firearms and march on Washington he and Cheney probably would try to declare a state of national crisis and stay in power. Fortunately most of this country isn't nearly the sheep you are.

Listen you little plssant, you want to meet me somewhere and tell me to my face what you so willingly say behind a message board, Im in Bailey Colorado. Ill meet you anywhere from Castle Rock to Longmont and let you tell me that to my face. And Im not a tough guy, Im not a fighter, Im out of shape, but the invite is extended shlthead if you have the stones. Should be an easy ass whuppin for someone so brave behind your computer.
I'm the internet tough guy huh? You're resorting to the tried and true "well say that to my face buddy!" message board line. For thinking I don't "have the stones" you get pretty butt hurt when I called you out on your ****.

And I work for a living, I have **** to do on a daily basis that simultaneously makes me money, my company money, and makes the world a better place. I think I got a bit higher priorities than dealing with your insecurities.

My life IS better. My income has improved 300% in the last 8. My civil liberties have never been violated, except from a corrupt DA and a bunch of man hating lesbians. I can get into this with you, we can see who is the party of 2nd amendment rights, property rights, rights to school choice, rights to keep more of your money, rights to religious freedom, and who wants to dig deeper into your pockets, give you no right to protect yourself even during a breakin, yeah Hitler was for gun control, Hitler was also against religious freedom, ah **** it, you are way way way too stupid to understand. Just lap up all the bullshlt that Bush is Hilter, vote for change although you have no idea what change is coming, and continue to be stupid. In fact, your punishment for being such a ****ing moron is that you have to live the rest of your life in that empty space with sits between your houlders. Enjoy.
Hey, congrats. You're one of about 5% of America who's lives have improved over Bush's last eight years. I'm one too, but that doesn't mean I enjoy watching the other 95% get screwed. You're lucky enough to never have government intervention in your life, again, good for you, but I kinda see it as a moral obligation of all Americans to rise up in defense of those who suffer wrongful government persecution. The numbers of which have skyrocketed under the past 8 years of Cheney/Bush.

There were a lot of Germans who said "why should I care that the Jews are being moved to special communities? My way of life is better. They don't want to move me and my family, and I'm making more money than ever. Life is great."

See the connection?

[W*GS]

Yet you consistently defend the Republican party and wig out over anything positive about the Democratic party. And don't pull your crap about proving it. If you want that, you do it.

You made the accusation, so you prove it.

I'm not going to, nor can I, make your case for you.

[W*GS]

I never tried to hide the fact I lean left.

How far left are you?

How far right am I?

Here's a hint:

Bronco Bob LR -4.38
W*GS LR 4.75

Would you consider that absolute difference large?

[W*GS]

W*GS has always been a republican with commitment phobia. He will always be remembered as Bush's "Director of Deflection" on the Mane.

The two statements above are purest fantasy, courtesy the socialist "mind" of LABF...

He's McCain-like when it comes to attacks - when the truth fails, lie your ass off.

[gunns]

You made the accusation, so you prove it.

I'm not going to, nor can I, make your case for you.

Just pull up your posts, that should do it.

[W*GS]

Just pull up your posts, that should do it.

Such as?

Find one.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Obama Takes A Commanding Lead in the National Polls

Open Left has a graph (http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=7E6EAC4B95FB68FA5D9060086F D015D8?diaryId=8833) (reproduced below) of Obama and McCain's standing in the national polls over the past 10 days. While Presidents aren't elected by popular vote, this large a difference is going to show up in the state polls in the swing states, as it is starting to do. It is hard to imagine anyone losing the popular vote by 8 points and winning the electoral vote.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Images/national-polls-Oct04.jpg

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Obama Breaking Away in Pennsylvania

Muhlenberg College is now running a 5-day tracking poll (done for the Allentown Morning Call) in Pennsylvania. Every day they poll until they get 100-120 likely voters and then average that day's data with the four previous days' data. Below are the results for the 9 days since they started doing this. It is clear that the race was close when the tracking poll started, but Obama now has a commanding lead. Together with the national poll graph above and McCain's decision to pull out of Michigan altogether, it would seem that as the economy becomes the dominant issue, white working-class voters are starting to come back to their Democratic roots. Getting incensed about gay marriage is a luxury they can afford when times are good, but when their jobs, savings, and retirements are on the line, the Democrats are favored.


With Michigan abandoned and Pennsylvania appearing increasingly out of his reach, McCain's state-by-state strategy has to focus on just holding all the states Bush won in 2004. However, Iowa is probably a lost cause and New Mexico almost as bad. With the Kerry states plus Iowa and New Mexico, Obama reaches 264 electoral votes, not quite enough. If McCain can hold the others, he wins. However, Obama is making inroads in Florida, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado, and Nevada. He only needs one of them to win (if it is Nevada, the election will be decided in the House, where the Democrats will control a majority of the state delegations). McCain has no choice but to defend them all. Obama can choose which ones to go after the hardest. The Washington Post has a good analysis (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/04/AR2008100402135.html?hpid=topnews) of Obama's choices.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

The Economy is Scaring Children

A new poll (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/04/AR2008100402074.html?hpid=topnews) of 500 teenagers released Friday has some scary findings. Almost 70% expect the economic crisis to have an immediate negative impact on their families. Some don't plan to have kids when they grow up because they don't think they will have a job. Others are worried that their babysitting money will vanish when their bank goes belly up. One offered to sell his iPod so the family could eat. While adults might think these fears are absurd, they are there and can have serious implications for the children's welfare--and possibly also on how the parents vote. Even if you have you have a Ph.D. in history, with a specialization in the business cycle from 1790 to 2000, if your son thinks he has no future, you are going to be very, very focused on which candidate is better equipped to fix the economy.