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frerottenextelway
09-29-2008, 05:52 PM
Apparently she couldn't name a single SC case other than R v. W.

via Politico

Of concern to McCain's campaign, however, is a remaining and still-undisclosed clip from Palin's interview with Couric last week that has the political world buzzing.

The Palin aide, after first noting how "infuriating" it was for CBS to purportedly leak word about the gaffe, revealed that it came in response to a question about Supreme Court decisions.

After noting Roe vs. Wade, Palin was apparently unable to discuss any major court cases.

There was no verbal fumbling with this particular question as there was with some others, the aide said, but rather silence.

stugotsII
09-29-2008, 06:04 PM
Apparently she couldn't name a single SC case other than R v. W.

via Politico

She should be killed.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-29-2008, 06:07 PM
She should be killed.

That's scheduled for this Thursday. :D

stugotsII
09-29-2008, 06:08 PM
That's scheduled for this Thursday. :D

Death by Joe Biden inserting his foot into her mouth for a change?

That debate should be more entertaining that Iron Man.

TailgateNut
09-30-2008, 06:53 AM
That's scheduled for this Thursday. :D



One bright day this week. Time for her to be exposed for what she is: just another pretty face. Talk about "a blond moment".

I am amazed that she has ANY support.

TailgateNut
09-30-2008, 06:54 AM
Death by Joe Biden inserting his foot into her mouth for a change?

That debate should be more entertaining that Iron Man.

It'll be entertaining to watch Biden "school" the "bright one"!ROFL!

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-30-2008, 07:03 AM
One bright day this week. Time for her to be exposed for what she is: just another pretty face. Talk about "a blond moment".

I am amazed that she has ANY support.

I'm still waiting for McCraven to pull some stunt that will provide a reason to cancel the debate.

I just can't see Mooselini lasting 90 minutes without imploding.

http://www.bartcop.com/palin-debate-spring-09.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-30-2008, 07:04 AM
http://www.bartcop.com/palin-russian-expert.jpg

baja
09-30-2008, 07:10 AM
One bright day this week. Time for her to be exposed for what she is: just another pretty face. Talk about "a blond moment".

I am amazed that she has ANY support.

If you want to talk about a "blond" moment you should at least spell blonde right. ;D

TailgateNut
09-30-2008, 07:18 AM
If you want to talk about a "blond" moment you should at least spell blonde right. ;D


:notworthy

Garcia Bronco
09-30-2008, 07:19 AM
If you want to talk about a "blond" moment you should at least spell blonde right. ;D

Doh. LOL

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-30-2008, 07:27 AM
http://www.bartcop.com/palin-silence.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-30-2008, 07:30 AM
September 30, 2008

The Sarah Palin Farce (http://pundits.thehill.com/2008/09/30/the-sarah-palin-farce/) (Brent Budowsky (http://pundits.thehill.com/author/brent-budowsky/))

@ 9:09 am

Perhaps if Sarah Palin does not drool and fall unconscious during the debate, the media will credit her with a good performance. Then again, maybe not. Then again, maybe she will babble incoherently with ridiculous bromides that don’t make sense, which is what happened in the few interviews she has given. McCain should have chosen Tina Fey for vice president. What is truly amazing is that Fey's brilliant spoofs of Palin use her exact words as comedy.

John McCain made the blunder of the century picking someone he did not even know, whose knowledge base falls below that of freshman members of Congress on simple issues, let alone hard issues. Her mumbling and bumbling about how her national security experience (http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2008/09/25/palin-explains-foreign-policy-credentials-to-couric/) with Alaska close to Russia was weird, incoherent and ridiculous. Her mumbling and bumbling about the economic crisis was a jumble of clichιs and talking points that didn't fit together or make even minimal sense. She sounded like the village idiot, even on 100 percent predictable and easy questions. To be devastated by Katie Couric (http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2008/09/29/palin-acknowledges-criticism-tells-couric-im-ready/) is ridiculous.

My biggest concern is her repeated lie that she killed the Bridge to Nowhere when it is now documented, with proof positive, from every source, that her claim is, indeed, a lie. It is alarming that anyone who could succeed to the presidency would have such contempt for the truth, and for voters, that she keeps repeating a proven, demonstrable lie. Just what America needs in a president, right?

Palin's false claims about earmarks, Palin's extreme abuse of power in Alaska followed by Nixon-like claims of executive privilege and Rove-like vendettas and cover-ups make her a walking parody of Dick Cheney.

The Sarah Palin choice was a fiasco, a mega-disaster, rapidly turning into a farce. This person is so manifestly unqualified and so obviously ignorant even on major issues that have been on the front page for years, that it is nothing short of alarming that she could succeed to the presidency.

Of course, the lunatic right-wing base of the Republican Party adores her, but for everyone else, from independent voters to Reagan Democrats, from high-level Republicans to a growing list of conservative commentators, the Palin choice was a ridiculous farce and a genuine danger to the nation.

John McCain increasingly looks like an angry, emotional, hyper-partisan and reckless gambler who could be even more dangerous than George Bush as president. His ridiculous intervention in the bailout talks was a farce. His claiming credit for the bill passing at the moment it was being defeated was comic opera. His choice of Sarah Palin was a farce for his campaign and an insult to men and women alike.

Rohirrim
09-30-2008, 09:30 AM
Actuarial tables show that McCain's VP has a 1 in 5 chance of becoming president. Would you like to play with that 20%? ;D

Rigs11
09-30-2008, 09:33 AM
heard a great new name for her today: Saracudda MooseliniHilarious!

Mr.Meanie
09-30-2008, 09:41 AM
Apparently she couldn't name a single SC case other than R v. W.

I would have to see this to believe it.

The Lone Bolt
09-30-2008, 09:43 AM
While I agree that Palin shows a disturbing lack of fundamental knowledge I wonder if Couric is going to grill Biden on, say, the history of the Federal Reserve system or Medicare mental health coverage?

Mr.Meanie
09-30-2008, 09:59 AM
While I agree that Palin shows a disturbing lack of fundamental knowledge I wonder if Couric is going to grill Biden on, say, the history of the Federal Reserve system or Medicare mental health coverage?

I would hope so.

But so far I think Palin has been lobbed softballs. The Bush Doctrine? And, if this is true..."name some landmark SC cases"?? Seriously? McCain, Biden and Obama would destroy those questions.

Hell...my mom who doesn't know anything about politics and little about American history could even name Brown v Board of education at least. Wow.

Odysseus
09-30-2008, 10:06 AM
Biden is going to sleep walk through this. He is going to rely on Palin to mess up. If Palin does not mess up they are going to claim she is not that bad and attack the "liberal" press. You know. Guys like George Will the conservative commentator who is disappointed in this pick.

It is tragic that Tina Fey doesn't have to exaggerate the things Palin says to completely abuse her reputation. There is no way you can look at this debate without wondering who is making fun of whom.

Garcia Bronco
09-30-2008, 10:07 AM
I would hope so.

But so far I think Palin has been lobbed softballs. The Bush Doctrine? And, if this is true..."name some landmark SC cases"?? Seriously? McCain, Biden and Obama would destroy those questions.

Hell...my mom who doesn't know anything about politics and little about American history could even name Brown v Board of education at least. Wow.

I couldn't remember BvBOE until some mentioned it. The "Bush Doctrine" is made up term that's subjective, and knowng this media created term is neither here nor there. Naming landmark SC decisions means a little more, but not much. Knowing the Constitution is where the rubber meets the road.

DenverBrit
09-30-2008, 10:12 AM
If you want to talk about a "blond" moment you should at least spell blonde right. ;D

Blond or blonde are both correct.

Rohirrim
09-30-2008, 10:14 AM
While I agree that Palin shows a disturbing lack of fundamental knowledge I wonder if Couric is going to grill Biden on, say, the history of the Federal Reserve system or Medicare mental health coverage?

Did you even watch the Couric interview? She was lobbing softballs. Not only that, she was giving soft follow ups to give Palin a chance to clarify her answers. Palin says, "When Putin sticks his giant head up in our airspace he's doing it in Alaska." What can Couric do with that? I'm surprised she didn't fall out of her chair howling. ROFL!

DenverBrit
09-30-2008, 10:16 AM
Did you even watch the Couric interview? She was lobbing softballs. Not only that, she was giving soft follow ups to give Palin a chance to clarify her answers. Palin says, "When Putin sticks his giant head up in our airspace he's doing it in Alaska." What can Couric do with that? I'm surprised she didn't fall out of her chair howling. ROFL!

She should have asked Palin about Moose recipes or the proper use of a condom. ;D

Mr.Meanie
09-30-2008, 10:17 AM
I couldn't remember BvBOE until some mentioned it.

Good thing you're not in line to be President then. Maybe it's just me, but I would think if you don't know some of the most influential SC decisions that have radically altered American history you have no business being president.

The "Bush Doctrine" is made up term that's subjective, and knowng this media created term is neither here nor there.

The Powell Doctrine is also a media created term, but again I would think the President should know what that is. You don't?

Knowing the Constitution is where the rubber meets the road.

I agree with you on that point. But I would bet my life if someone asked Palin some simple Constitutional questions she would be embarrassed yet again.

Obama on the other hand taught constitutional law for 12 years...

TailgateNut
09-30-2008, 10:26 AM
She should have asked Palin about Moose recipes or the proper use of a condom. ;D


...or the correct height vs base radius of igloo construction.:rofl:

Garcia Bronco
09-30-2008, 10:29 AM
Good thing you're not in line to be President then. Maybe it's just me, but I would think if you don't know some of the most influential SC decisions that have radically altered American history you have no business being president.



The Powell Doctrine is also a media created term, but again I would think the President should know what that is. You don't?



I agree with you on that point. But I would bet my life if someone asked Palin some simple Constitutional questions she would be embarrassed yet again.

Obama on the other hand taught constitutional law for 12 years...

I disagree. But while we're talking about it, I would be a better President than all of them. I also agree with you that she would fail any constitutional quiz. Obama was not a professor, he was a lecturer.

peacepipe
09-30-2008, 10:41 AM
I disagree. But while we're talking about it, I would be a better President than all of them. I also agree with you that she would fail any constitutional quiz. Obama was not a professor, he was a lecturer.

:stupid:

The even-handedness in Professor Obama's law exams
RUTH MARCUS
SYNDICATED COLUMNIST

WASHINGTON, D.C. – How would candidate Obama answer professor Obama's exams? During his years teaching constitutional law at the University of Chicago, Barack Obama favored take-home tests touching on some of the scorchingly hot-button legal issues of the day: gay rights, reproductive freedom, affirmative action and racial profiling.

These exams, unearthed by The New York Times' resourceful Jodi Kantor, are edgy versions of the classic law school "issue spotter." Can a state university's law review expand its affirmative action program to include special treatment for gay students as well as racial minorities? Does a man have any right to stop his ex-wife from using their frozen embryos to try to get pregnant? Can parents whose daughter is in a vegetative state be prohibited from trying to clone her?

To read Obama's exams is to get a glimpse of the supple intelligence he would bring to the presidency and to be impressed by his lawyerly capacity – perhaps even compulsion – to see the other side's argument and mine the weaknesses of his own case.

But it is also a reminder of Obama's essential elusiveness, and how little we understand about how the candidate himself would resolve these thorny problems.

For example, one 2003 question describes the state of "Nirvana," where a gay couple, Richard and Michael, want a child. Would Nirvana's laws prohibiting gays from paying surrogate mothers or adopting children, Obama asked, violate the constitutional guarantees of equal protection and due process?

It's easy to imagine President Obama wrestling with a real-world version of professor Obama's hypothetical. Obama has said that he does not support same-sex marriage. But his exam question involves the same issues that the California Supreme Court addressed in overturning the state's same-sex marriage ban. If the Constitution protects Richard and Michael's effort to have a child, would it similarly protect their right to marry?

In the model answers he provided for students after another exam, Obama refers to "some persuasive arguments" that homosexuality should be covered by the Equal Protection Clause. How does that square with his opposition to same-sex marriage? Are civil unions a separate-but-equal substitute?

To take a 1997 question, should "Splitsville," a city plagued by residential segregation and failing schools, be permitted to create an all-black, all-male career academy, or is the "Ujamaa School" unlawful discrimination?

Even if constitutional, Obama asked, "is it good public policy? Put somewhat differently, in light of ... the history of race and gender discrimination in America, is the Ujamaa School a worthy attempt to promote long-term equality, or ... a dangerous betrayal of the American ideal?"

In model answers, Obama didn't tip his hand. Instead, he noted merely that "I did find it interesting that, based on a justifiable skepticism in the prospect of truly integrated schools and an equally justified concern over the desperate condition of many inner-city schools, a slim majority of you favored the idea of a Ujamaa-type program."

Another question asked students to advise "Utopia" governor "Arnold Whatzanager" on a ballot initiative – a follow-up to one barring racial preferences – prohibiting the state "from classifying any individual by race, ethnicity, color or national origin."

Obama sought students' "broader perspective on whether the use of racial classifications by the state should in fact be rethought."

You can hear campaign trail echoes of Obama's efforts to grapple with this question. "I have a sister who is half Indonesian, who is married to a Chinese Canadian," he said the other day. "I don't know what that makes my niece."

Obama's part of the Con Law curriculum involved individual rights, so some of the constitutional issues most salient to a president – the separation of powers, the scope of executive authority – are not covered.

In one 2001 question, though, Obama asked students to imagine themselves as lawyers in the White House counsel's office, advising the president after an Anthrax-like attack. Faced with a shortage of antibiotics, and given evidence that African-Americans and women were more susceptible to the toxin, how could the president allocate the medication?

The Obama exams provide no smoking guns for opposition researchers.

Rather, they are fleeting snapshots reminiscent of Obama's approach in "The Audacity of Hope," even-handed in a way that is simultaneously impressive and maddening.

Reading them buttressed my confidence in Obama's capacity to grasp the nuances of any question, no matter how complex. They also underscored my sense that, in the hardest cases, I'm not always sure where professor Obama, or president Obama for that matter, comes down

Play2win
09-30-2008, 10:41 AM
...or the correct height vs base radius of igloo construction.:rofl:

I don't know... you might need to use simpler terms... those are pretty big words for the like of Sarah Palin...

TailgateNut
09-30-2008, 10:57 AM
I don't know... you might need to use simpler terms... those are pretty big words for the like of Sarah Palin...

I have a young intern/civil engineer (frigging cornhusker) working with me who, IMO, has more operational gray matter than McCains' moose killer.
(and she's easier on the eyes and ears than the old battle-ax).

Rohirrim
09-30-2008, 10:58 AM
I took a Constitutional Law class in college. I remember we argued a case where a guy jumps off a roof with the intent to commit suicide and on his way down another guy aims a pistol out of the window and shoots him. So is he guilty of murder?

TailgateNut
09-30-2008, 11:00 AM
I took a Constitutional Law class in college. I remember we argued a case where a guy jumps off a roof with the intent to commit suicide and on his way down another guy aims a pistol out of the window and shoots him. So is he guilty of murder?


Assisted suicide?;D

Rohirrim
09-30-2008, 11:01 AM
Assisted suicide?;D

:rofl: That's a good one. I don't think anybody brought that possibility up.

gyldenlove
09-30-2008, 11:02 AM
I took a Constitutional Law class in college. I remember we argued a case where a guy jumps off a roof with the intent to commit suicide and on his way down another guy aims a pistol out of the window and shoots him. So is he guilty of murder?

If it can be proven that the bullet caused death before the jumper impacted earth that would be murder in most countries, and it would definitely be attempted murder unless it was an accidental shooting.

Actually in several states killing yourself makes you guilty of murder as a side note. Most murder paragraphs make no distinction that you have to kill someone other than yourself to be guilty.

TailgateNut
09-30-2008, 11:02 AM
:rofl: That's a good one. I don't think anybody brought that possibility up.


Just a quick peek into my twisted mentality.!Booya!

Garcia Bronco
09-30-2008, 11:23 AM
:stupid:

The even-handedness in Professor Obama's law exams
RUTH MARCUS
SYNDICATED COLUMNIST

WASHINGTON, D.C. – How would candidate Obama answer professor Obama's exams? During his years teaching constitutional law at the University of Chicago, Barack Obama favored take-home tests touching on some of the scorchingly hot-button legal issues of the day: gay rights, reproductive freedom, affirmative action and racial profiling.


You are stupid I guess. I don't like to use those words, but I call people what the say they are. Just because Ruth put it in her article doesn't make it true.

http://directory.uchicago.edu/


"Barack Obama Senior Lecturer, Law School ADMIN Networking Services & Information Technologies
bobama@uchicago.edu (773) 702-9494
Michelle Obama VP, COMMUNITY & EXTERNAL AFFAIRS.. SENIOR MGT "


VS

Dr. Jeffrey B. Matthews Dallas B. Phemister Prof. and Chrmn. Dept. Surg.
jmatthews@surgery.bsd.uchicago.edu (773) 702-0881

Rohirrim
09-30-2008, 11:32 AM
You are stupid I guess. I don't like to use those words, but I call people what the say they are. Just because Ruth put it in her article doesn't make it true.

http://directory.uchicago.edu/


"Barack Obama Senior Lecturer, Law School ADMIN Networking Services & Information Technologies
bobama@uchicago.edu (773) 702-9494
Michelle Obama VP, COMMUNITY & EXTERNAL AFFAIRS.. SENIOR MGT "


VS

Dr. Jeffrey B. Matthews Dallas B. Phemister Prof. and Chrmn. Dept. Surg.
jmatthews@surgery.bsd.uchicago.edu (773) 702-0881

I'm guessing that's the difference between having tenure or not.

Garcia Bronco
09-30-2008, 11:36 AM
I'm guessing that's the difference between having tenure or not.

Typically there are lecturers, Associate Professors, and Professors. Tenure can be invoked anywhere in the process, but I could be wrong.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-30-2008, 04:55 PM
I would hope so.

But so far I think Palin has been lobbed softballs. The Bush Doctrine? And, if this is true..."name some landmark SC cases"?? Seriously? McCain, Biden and Obama would destroy those questions.

Hell...my mom who doesn't know anything about politics and little about American history could even name Brown v Board of education at least. Wow.

Yep.

She couldn't even name a major U.S. Supreme Court decision besides Roe V Wade - and the nitwits on the far right argue that she's no less qualified than Obama? ROFL!

frerottenextelway
09-30-2008, 05:05 PM
You are stupid I guess. I don't like to use those words, but I call people what the say they are. Just because Ruth put it in her article doesn't make it true.

http://directory.uchicago.edu/


"Barack Obama Senior Lecturer, Law School ADMIN Networking Services & Information Technologies
bobama@uchicago.edu (773) 702-9494
Michelle Obama VP, COMMUNITY & EXTERNAL AFFAIRS.. SENIOR MGT "


VS

Dr. Jeffrey B. Matthews Dallas B. Phemister Prof. and Chrmn. Dept. Surg.
jmatthews@surgery.bsd.uchicago.edu (773) 702-0881

He's listed under professors on their website and has been since at least 2000.

http://catalogs.uchicago.edu/law-folder/law-fac.html

Look....

http://mediamatters.org/static/images/item/professors-20080401-2.jpg

Also, from the school:

"Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors."

Now apologize to whoever you flamed above because you were the ignorant ass.

davidtkd
09-30-2008, 05:16 PM
Lecturers can be professors. Lecturers usually are 'guests' and are not on a tenure track. First one becomes an assistant prof, then becomes an associate (usually with the 'honor' of tenure). The associate professor can then become a full prof (a nice raise usually comes with that). I hate the notion of tenure. It has made most of the professors that I work with less vested in the students and mainly interested in their own self importance. Some slowly become more incompetent in what it was they were hired to do and there isn't a damn thing I/we can do to show them the door.

Bronco Bob
09-30-2008, 08:29 PM
Back to Palin, anyone catch today's Katie Couric's interview of Palin?

Katie asked Palin which newspapers and magazines she reads.

"All of them" responds Palin. Katie sort of presses her to name
some, but just kind of gives up and goes on to another subject.

I'm just shaking my head. Hell name something, American Rifleman,
Soldier of Fortune. Moose Hunter's Gazette. What the hell kind of
answer is "All of them"?

Does Palin read the Pueblo Chieftain? I guess she must if she
reads "All of them."

Rigs11
09-30-2008, 08:34 PM
Back to Palin, anyone catch today's Katie Couric's interview of Palin?

Katie asked Palin which newspapers and magazines she reads.

"All of them" responds Palin. Katie sort of presses her to name
some, but just kind of gives up and goes on to another subject.

I'm just shaking my head. Hell name something, American Rifleman,
Soldier of Fortune. Moose Hunter's Gazette. What the hell kind of
answer is "All of them"?

Does Palin read the Pueblo Chieftain? I guess she must if she
reads "All of them."
I wonder if she reads the enquirer or mad magazine.:rofl:

Bronco Bob
09-30-2008, 08:40 PM
I wonder if she reads the enquirer or mad magazine.:rofl:

Of course she does, she reads "All of them".

Bronco Yoda
09-30-2008, 08:46 PM
I took a Constitutional Law class in college. I remember we argued a case where a guy jumps off a roof with the intent to commit suicide and on his way down another guy aims a pistol out of the window and shoots him. So is he guilty of murder?

If he were say... a raider fan, couldn't that be argued as "Justifiable homicide".

You might even be able to sue Al Doofus for the pain & suffering from said trauma for having to be placed in the position of putting down one of his disgruntled and emotionally inflicted fans.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-30-2008, 08:59 PM
Back to Palin, anyone catch today's Katie Couric's interview of Palin?

Katie asked Palin which newspapers and magazines she reads.

"All of them" responds Palin. Katie sort of presses her to name
some, but just kind of gives up and goes on to another subject.

I'm just shaking my head. Hell name something, American Rifleman,
Soldier of Fortune. Moose Hunter's Gazette. What the hell kind of
answer is "All of them"?

Does Palin read the Pueblo Chieftain? I guess she must if she
reads "All of them."

What an embarrassment.

No wonder the republi-cons are doing everything they can to rig the debate and to change the format to accomodate her jaw-dropping ignorance.

baja
09-30-2008, 08:59 PM
The guy with the gun unless the coroner ruled death by pancaking with pavement.

BroncoInferno
09-30-2008, 09:10 PM
I couldn't remember BvBOE until some mentioned it. The "Bush Doctrine" is made up term that's subjective, and knowng this media created term is neither here nor there. Naming landmark SC decisions means a little more, but not much. Knowing the Constitution is where the rubber meets the road.

Bull****. Every goddamn body knows what the Bush Doctrine is. Don't give me any crap about it being made up. That is pure BS. And anyone who does not know what the Bush Doctrine is is not fit to be VP of this country. Period. Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant. And not knowing SC decisions only means a little more? My god, anyone who made it through the 10th grade could at least spit out Brown v. Board of Education! What kind of piss poor standards do you have for your countries leaders?

baja
09-30-2008, 09:14 PM
So what is the Bush doctrine?

Bronco Bob
09-30-2008, 09:19 PM
Miranda vs Arizona ought to be known by anyone who has ever watched a cop show on TV.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-01-2008, 12:46 AM
Sarah Palin has no role in guarding U.S. airspace despite absurd, ludicrous, laughable claims in Katie Couric interview (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/09/30/2008-09-30_norad_sarah_palin_has_no_role_in_guardin.html)

http://www.buzzflash.com/store/images/1284_200.jpg

baja
10-01-2008, 04:45 AM
When Russian bombers approach American airspace and U.S. Air Force fighters are scrambled, Sarah Palin's phone doesn't ring but Sarah does scower the horizon on look out for Putin's ugly face invading US air space.

Beantown Bronco
10-01-2008, 06:43 AM
Back to Palin, anyone catch today's Katie Couric's interview of Palin?

Katie asked Palin which newspapers and magazines she reads.

"All of them" responds Palin. Katie sort of presses her to name
some, but just kind of gives up and goes on to another subject.

I'm just shaking my head. Hell name something, American Rifleman,
Soldier of Fortune. Moose Hunter's Gazette. What the hell kind of
answer is "All of them"?

Does Palin read the Pueblo Chieftain? I guess she must if she
reads "All of them."

All of them? There's not enough time in the day to read all the articles in Playboy, Hustler and all the other porno mags out there....much less the boring "non adult" mags.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-01-2008, 07:03 AM
Palin's popularity takes a tumble among Alaskans

By Chris Adams, McClatchy Newspapers Tue Sep 30, 5:06 PM ET

ANCHORAGE — Ask a governor if she'd be happy with a 68 percent approval rating and she'd probably laugh at the question. It usually doesn't get much better than that.

For Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin , though, that represents a hefty drop.

Since John McCain tapped the first-term governor to be his vice-presidential running mate, Palin's sky-high home-state approval ratings have come down to Earth.

Above 80 percent approval for parts of her term — she was at 82 percent in a key local poll twice this year — Palin's popularity has swooned as new information about the local abuse-of-power investigation known as Troopergate has trickled out, and as national and local media pick over her track record as a governor and small-town mayor.

Palin still has overwhelming support among Alaska Republicans. But many Democrats and independents, who gave her positive marks just a month ago, have changed their views.

"My problem is not with Sarah Palin the governor," said Ron Zandman-Zeman , 60, a recently retired schoolteacher from Anchorage . "She was doing the job she was elected to do. I don't think she can do the job she wants to be elected to do. And that's why I'm here."

Continued:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20080930/pl_mcclatchy/3059645

Bronco Bob
10-01-2008, 03:49 PM
[B]
"My problem is not with Sarah Palin the governor," said Ron Zandman-Zeman , 60, a recently retired schoolteacher from Anchorage . "She was doing the job she was elected to do. I don't think she can do the job she wants to be elected to do. And that's why I'm here."


The Peter Principle.

Bronco Yoda
10-01-2008, 04:21 PM
For all the Palin groupies....This nude portrait of Sarah Palin is hangining in the Old Town Ale House in Chicago. LOL

Now I know one of you guys is going to set it as your screen saver. Admit it ...hehe
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2008/10/01/amd_sarahpalinpainting.jpg

Spider
10-01-2008, 04:23 PM
You are stupid I guess. I don't like to use those words, but I call people what the say they are. Just because Ruth put it in her article doesn't make it true.

http://directory.uchicago.edu/


"Barack Obama Senior Lecturer, Law School ADMIN Networking Services & Information Technologies
bobama@uchicago.edu (773) 702-9494
Michelle Obama VP, COMMUNITY & EXTERNAL AFFAIRS.. SENIOR MGT "


VS

Dr. Jeffrey B. Matthews Dallas B. Phemister Prof. and Chrmn. Dept. Surg.
jmatthews@surgery.bsd.uchicago.edu (773) 702-0881

you know you are going to get nailed on this right ?...oops to late I saw the post correcting you ........

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-02-2008, 03:56 PM
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BroncoInferno
10-02-2008, 04:21 PM
The footage:

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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-02-2008, 04:29 PM
The footage:

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My God, that has to be embarrassing if you're a republican (or just the opposite?)

At any rate, all we need is for her to "keep up the good work" for 90 minutes tonight, and McCraven is finished (barring election fraud and/or October surprise.)

Bronco Bob
10-02-2008, 04:32 PM
The master of the Palin-drome. If you were to arrange the words she
says backwards, she says the same thing. Just basically parroting
a bunch of talking points without even having a clue as to what
they mean and never even answering the question.

BroncoInferno
10-02-2008, 04:35 PM
The master of the Palin-drome. If you were to arrange the words she
says backwards, she says the same thing. Just basically parroting
a bunch of talking points without even having a clue as to what
they mean and never even answering the question.

To call what she said "talking points" is an insult to talking points. That was just "oh, ****, maybe if I ramble for awhile I'll sound like I know what I'm talking about."

frerottenextelway
10-02-2008, 04:36 PM
This site is lolz:

http://interviewpalin.com

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-02-2008, 04:39 PM
<center> http://www.bartcop.com/palin-sees-russia.jpg
<center> http://www.bartcop.com/palin-putin-house.jpg (http://family.webshots.com/album/559106733vOHtfb)
</center></center>

Hogan11
10-02-2008, 04:46 PM
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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-02-2008, 04:49 PM
Just like GeeDubya, I can only stand to listen/look for a few minutes before I start getting nauseous.

ugh!~

Paladin
10-02-2008, 04:59 PM
Caferty was just ruthless.

Seems to me, we are seeing the First Trophy Bimbo trotting out for the Repubs. It is no accident that tere are a number of neocons asking for her removal.....

Hogan11
10-02-2008, 05:03 PM
Caferty was just ruthless.

Seems to me, we are seeing the First Trophy Bimbo trotting out for the Repubs. It is no accident that tere are a number of neocons asking for her removal.....

The whole "America's sweetheart" thing backfired badly. I find Jack's theory of the selection being in response of the GOP not letting him choose Joe Liarman interesting to say the least.

All we're gonna get from Palin tonight is another round of the sardonic hockey mom act...a total deflection away from any in depth discussion on the issues presented to her.

defenseman
10-02-2008, 08:04 PM
Might as well dump this thread.......she did super tonight....these will mean nothing from here on out..dman

TailgateNut
10-02-2008, 08:09 PM
Might as well dump this thread.......she did super tonight....these will mean nothing from here on out..dman



Get your mask on. You are experiencing a serious case of oxygen depletion. Brain damage is irreversible.

defenseman
10-02-2008, 08:16 PM
Get your mask on. You are experiencing a serious case of oxygen depletion. Brain damage is irreversible.

Keep dreaming pal....she worked her out of the hole and filled it up on her way out......couric is now a distant POS memory......dman

*Bottom line is, you guys are just pissed she did so well..........get over it.

Rohirrim
10-02-2008, 08:18 PM
Keep dreaming pal....she worked her out of the hole and filled it up on her way out......couric is now a distant POS memory......dman

*Bottom line is, you guys are just pissed she did so well..........get over it.

You attack others as partisans and yet your perception is so blinded by rabid partisanship that you don't even realize that Couric was asking questions from a basic, high school civics exam. Nothing but softballs. That's how deluded you are.

Bronco Bob
10-02-2008, 09:13 PM
Might as well dump this thread.......she did super tonight....these will mean nothing from here on out..dman

Cliches and right wing talking points for 90 minutes.

Bronco Bob
10-02-2008, 09:15 PM
Keep dreaming pal....she worked her out of the hole and filled it up on her way out......couric is now a distant POS memory......dman

*Bottom line is, you guys are just pissed she did so well..........get over it.

When someone refuses to answer the question, it's easy to answer the question.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-02-2008, 09:30 PM
You attack others as partisans and yet your perception is so blinded by rabid partisanship that you don't even realize that Couric was asking questions from a basic, high school civics exam. Nothing but softballs. That's how deluded you are.

Ha!

He represents the 19% who still approve of Bush.

BroncoInferno
10-03-2008, 01:21 AM
Keep dreaming pal....she worked her out of the hole and filled it up on her way out......couric is now a distant POS memory......dman

*Bottom line is, you guys are just pissed she did so well..........get over it.

You are a goddamn idiot. Pain is a moron, as is anyone who supports her. Get a clue, sir.

BroncoInferno
10-03-2008, 01:23 AM
Couric's questions were softball crap, and she couldn't even answer those with any intelligence. Only a ****ing idiot like dman can support a moron like that. Dman, you have proven that you put party before country in your support for this idiot. Congrats.

TailgateNut
10-03-2008, 06:44 AM
They should have asked her how old the earth is, or how it feels to be touched by the "hand of god" and then what it feels like to flail around on the floor of her church.

Another good one would have been: "After being saved by your preacher have you encountered any more witches?"

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2008, 06:49 AM
They should have asked her how old the earth is, or how it feels to be touched by the "hand of god" and then what it feels like to flail around on the floor of her church.

Another good one would have been: "After being saved by your preacher have you encountered any more witches?"

Yep.

They should have also asked her how she managed to leave a previously solvent village of 5,000 people >$20 million in debt when her term as mayor came to an end.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2008, 06:51 AM
Couric's questions were softball crap, and she couldn't even answer those with any intelligence. Only a ****ing idiot like dman can support a moron like that. Dman, you have proven that you put party before country in your support for this idiot. Congrats.

QFT.

This whole Palin sideshow really flushes out the "party before country" types, doesn't it?

http://www.bartcop.com/palin-8-ball-debate.jpg

Bronco X
10-03-2008, 07:00 AM
Check this out:

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This is an interview by an Alaska news station with Governor Palin. In it she seems quite coherent. But, here's the thing... she's coherently expressing DISAPPOINTMENT with a SUPREME COURT DECISION!

What the hell is wrong with this woman? Was she just star struck by Katie Couric? If she freezes up in the presence of Couric, I'm not sure that doesn't say worse things about her readiness than simply being ignorant of the issues (which she clearly is also).

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-05-2008, 06:35 AM
Friday, October 03, 2008


Palin failed to pay taxes on her per diem payments (http://www.unbossed.com/index.php?itemid=2325)

In an overview of Sarah Palin's tax returns for 2006 and 2007, which she has finally released, the Associated Press reports that Palin neglected to pay the taxes due on $17,000 she received in per diem payments (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gp77q25DPCEibEdOBHWiKkz5EVWQD93JDD702) as Governor of Alaska. A McCain campaign official claims, falsely, that Palin owed no taxes on those payments.
Sarah Palin makes $125,000 a year as Alaska governor. Plus, since she took the job in December 2006, she hasn't paid taxes on the more than $17,000 she received in controversial per diem payments for working out of the family's lakeside home in Wasilla...

Regarding the per diem dispute, [McCain-Palin spokeswoman Maria] Comella said Juneau is the governor's home base and therefore whenever she works elsewhere, she is entitled to charge the state. Comella contended the per diem payments are not taxable.

[Former IRS commissioner Sheldon] Cohen said it was fine for the state of Alaska to determine it was okay to reimburse Palin to work out of her home, but the state's decision didn't mean those benefits were not taxable by the federal government. "One has nothing to do with the other," said Cohen.
It's very clear that taxes were due on these per diems. (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/19/are-palins-per-diem-payments-taxable/) This is tax evasion by Sarah Palin, pure and simple. It doesn't quite rise to the level of Richard Nixon's utter failure to pay any taxes for a few years while he was president. But what a standard to be flirting with.

Palin's per diems are themselves controversial. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/08/AR2008090803088_pf.html) She billed the state of Alaska nearly $17,000 for 312 nights she spent at her house in Wasilla. Because the governor has a mansion in Juneau and is supposed to reside and work there (though she is in fact absent far more than she's present in the capital (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13736.html)), she may be permitted technically under state regulations to claim a per diem for lodging while she's staying at her own home. But it looks pretty cynical to claim to be a reformer while seeking payments for living at home. That's particularly true since Palin also billed the state to fly her husband and children around the state (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/08/AR2008090803088_pf.html), to the tune of more than $43,000. Once Palin brought one of her daughters with her at great expense to a Women and Leadership conference in New York City, where they stayed in an extremely luxurious hotel.

Asked Monday about the official policy on charging for children's travel expenses, [Alaska state finance director Kim] Garnero said: "We cover the expenses of anyone who's conducting state business. I can't imagine kids could be doing that."
But [Palin's spokeswoman Sharon] Leighow said many of the hundreds of invitations Palin receives include requests for her to bring her family, placing the definition of "state business" with the party extending the invitation.
The revelations about her per diems suggest that Palin plays fast and loose with rules in order to enrich herself. The same impression is given by the AP's analysis of Palin's tax returns (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gp77q25DPCEibEdOBHWiKkz5EVWQD93JDD702). She and her husband have managed to take so many deductions, some seemingly dubious, that they've avoided paying taxes on much of their income.
For the 2007 tax year, Todd Palin's self-employment brought him $66,893 in gross receipts — $49,893 from fishing and $17,000 from snowmachine racing. But, the returns show, he claimed so many deductions that he reported only $15,513 net profit from the fishing operation and claimed a $9,639 loss from his racing, leaving him with an overall net income of only $5,874.

Those deductions enabled the Palins, who have four dependent children, to enjoy a 15 percent tax rate for 2007 and a rate of less than 10 percent for 2006.
This family, with assets worth between about 1 and 2 million dollars, is not struggling just to get by. Instead, it's working to figure out every angle it can exploit.

I have to say I've been awaiting the day when Palin's tax returns were released, expecting that it would turn out that she'd neglected to pay taxes on her controversial per diems. She did not fail to disappoint.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-05-2008, 07:14 PM
Is Palin Guilty of Income Tax Evasion, a Federal Offense, and How Did the Palins Acquire Assets Worth Between $1 and $2 Million Dollars and are Taxed at a 15% Rate? Some Very Good Questions Indeed. You Can Put Lipstick on a Tax Cheat, But You're Still a Tax Cheat. Found in Another Story on NPR: "The tax return also shows that the Palins didn't make the optional $3 contribution for presidential public financing, the fund that is financing the McCain-Palin campaign." 10/5 (http://www.unbossed.com/index.php?itemid=2325)

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-05-2008, 07:24 PM
Troopergate Update: An Anchorage judge refused to halt the Legislature's investigation of Gov. Sarah Palin and denied the state attorney general's attempt to throw out legislative subpoenas. Stay tuned... (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/53405.html)

Fool Me Once: McCain Campaign Cleverly Tries to Mislead the Public Into Thinking Todd Palin Will Testify on TrooperGate, But It Would be Too Late to Impact the Election and It is to the Shadow Sham Whitewash Team Set Up by the McCain Campaign to Exonerate Palin 10/6 (http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/546262.html)

Bronco X
10-07-2008, 01:31 AM
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baja
10-07-2008, 02:26 AM
Wow

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-07-2008, 03:04 AM
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Despicable! :oyvey:

She's moral garbage on legs.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-07-2008, 03:04 AM
Palins May Owe Tens of Thousands of Dollars in Back Taxes

When Sarah Palin accepted John McCain's offer to be his running mate, she probably didn't fully realize what being in the national spotlight meant. For example, your tax returns get to be analyzed in public (for free) by miscellaneous tax experts. Gov. Palin actually lives in Wasilla, a suburb of Anchorage, but the state capital is in Juneau, 500 miles away as the crow flies (assuming they have crows in Alaska). On the many nights she stayed at home, she claimed to have been away from the capital on business and was reimbursed $17,000 by the state for this "travel." Being paid a per diem for staying in your own home is ethically dicey but probably legal since "away on business" is probably defined as "not near your office." However, Palin was also paid $25,000 to reimburse her husband and children for being away from "home" (Juneau) which she did not list as income. A D.C. tax lawyer and two law school professors specializing in tax law have concluded (http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2008/10/tax-profs-agree.html) that if the State of Alaska wants to pay the governor to take her family on "business trips" that is its good right, but the money received is taxable income under the internal revenue code and the Palins should have declared it and paid tax on it, which they did not.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-07-2008, 03:06 AM
State Employees will Testify in Troopergate

The Alaska attorney general has reversed himself and announced (http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/546971.html) that the seven state employees subpoenaed by retired prosecutor Steve Branchflower will testify in the Troopergate affair. Branchflower was hired by the Republican-controlled Alaska state legislature to investigate potential abuse-of-power charges against Gov. Sarah Palin in conjunction with her firing the state commissioner of public safety for refusing to dismiss her estranged brother-in-law. In addition, the state supreme court will hold a hearing tomorrow on a defense motion to throw the whole case out. Branchflower is trying to get his report out on Friday. If he concludes that Palin misused her power, it will be a huge bombshell.

TailgateNut
10-07-2008, 06:37 AM
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Slimy bitch! Unbelieveable that one would condone charging victims for evidence gathering costs.

She would make one hell of a VP.;)

Rohirrim
10-07-2008, 07:09 AM
Great idea to put somebody one breath away from the presidency who couldn't pass a high school civics test. That McNasty sure does have the country's interests at heart. Yep.

baja
10-07-2008, 09:56 AM
Not to worry she will be a bullet to the bottom for McCharm. A perfect storm to self and party destruction.