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sisterhellfyre
09-28-2008, 01:47 PM
Yes, I know, the Broncos just lost to an inferior KC team. Even worse, the Broncos played so poorly they made the Chefs look good. I'd like to offer a few points that might help take the sting out of this one:

* What did you expect? Did you believe the hype that this Broncos team could ride the offense all the way thru the year, with no mistakes or off days? We had to know a day like this was coming. Very few teams can afford to give the ball away 4 times in a rivalry game and still hope to win.

* Jay made some mistakes today, yes. So what? The mistakes just show that he's human too, and not yet up to the level of Montana, Young, or Elway flawless execution. But I'm sure that they'll be looking at the game tapes, and Shanahan or Bates will have lots to talk about with missing open receivers to watch only Marshall down the field. I'm sure Jay has heard that before, too. It's just that I'm sure it's easy to forget things like that in the heat of the moment.

* For all the flaws of the Chiefs personnel, they still have one significant asset any time they play the Broncos: <B>Gunther Cunningham.</B> That man has been a thorn in Shanahan's side for a whole bunch of years now. He always seems to know how to plan against Shanahan's offense. Cunningham made a lousy head coach, and he's almost a caricature of himself with the yellow aviator shades, but I have to give him credit as a defensive coordinator.

* One of the pregame articles listed the Chefs as the youngest team in the NFL, with almost half the roster in their first or second years. The Broncos, however, are not all that far behind! This was a growing-pains game, painful as I'm sure it was for all of us to watch too.

kcpasco
09-28-2008, 01:51 PM
Welcome to being like the 2003 Chiefs
I don't wish that on anyone

broncofan2438
09-28-2008, 01:51 PM
There is no "calm down" for this crap. We just lost to a crap 0-3 team now 1-3. Shanny should start kicking someones ass, there is no excuse

Sassy
09-28-2008, 01:53 PM
I'm not shocked...
as well as the Bronco O has been playing...they hardly ever win at Arrowhead...Shanahan has won what...3 times?
I think losing this game will help them in the long run.

DB-Freak
09-28-2008, 01:53 PM
Yes, I know, the Broncos just lost to an inferior KC team. Even worse, the Broncos played so poorly they made the Chefs look good. I'd like to offer a few points that might help take the sting out of this one:

* What did you expect? Did you believe the hype that this Broncos team could ride the offense all the way thru the year, with no mistakes or off days? We had to know a day like this was coming. Very few teams can afford to give the ball away 4 times in a rivalry game and still hope to win.

* Jay made some mistakes today, yes. So what? The mistakes just show that he's human too, and not yet up to the level of Montana, Young, or Elway flawless execution. But I'm sure that they'll be looking at the game tapes, and Shanahan or Bates will have lots to talk about with missing open receivers to watch only Marshall down the field. I'm sure Jay has heard that before, too. It's just that I'm sure it's easy to forget things like that in the heat of the moment.

* For all the flaws of the Chiefs personnel, they still have one significant asset any time they play the Broncos: <B>Gunther Cunningham.</B> That man has been a thorn in Shanahan's side for a whole bunch of years now. He always seems to know how to plan against Shanahan's offense. Cunningham made a lousy head coach, and he's almost a caricature of himself with the yellow aviator shades, but I have to give him credit as a defensive coordinator.

* One of the pregame articles listed the Chefs as the youngest team in the NFL, with almost half the roster in their first or second years. The Broncos, however, are not all that far behind! This was a growing-pains game, painful as I'm sure it was for all of us to watch too.

Elway was not the game manager young and montana were... not even close.

He was a gunslinger and so is Jay, but Jay really doesn't have the Favre or Elway cannon.

Kaylore
09-28-2008, 01:53 PM
That's a good post. Now just take that creepy Avatar down!

Seriously there were some good things.


Despite turning the ball over four times in a row we were still in the game.
A lot of our problems particularly on offense were the result of just flukey stuff. I think I saw six Broncos just slip and fall on their arse this game and we would have scored. It was bizare.
The defense kept us in the game until the turnovers overwhelmed us.
Maybe now Slowik will get fired. :)
Cutler will learn now that he can't keep staring down Brandon Marshall. He has other weapons and needs to spread the ball around.
Special teams is getting better. We still fade after we get gased late in the game, but we're making strides there.

kcpasco
09-28-2008, 01:54 PM
And yes you guys are still better then us

But I gotta admit it does feel good :)

frerottenextelway
09-28-2008, 01:54 PM
There is no "calm down" for this crap. We just lost to a crap 0-3 team now 1-3. Shanny should start kicking someones ass, there is no excuse

It happens. Every team loses to a bad team a some point. The Giants lost a few of them last year. The Chuggers are getting pushed around by the Raiders. Even in 97 and 98 we lost to bad teams at some point.

ludo21
09-28-2008, 01:55 PM
The world is not over, agreed there.

But we cannot turn the ball over that many times again.

Rohirrim
09-28-2008, 01:56 PM
I thought this team was an 8 & 8 team before the season started. This game just confirms what I already thought.

Spider
09-28-2008, 01:57 PM
Yes, I know, the Broncos just lost to an inferior KC team. Even worse, the Broncos played so poorly they made the Chefs look good. I'd like to offer a few points that might help take the sting out of this one:

* What did you expect? Did you believe the hype that this Broncos team could ride the offense all the way thru the year, with no mistakes or off days? We had to know a day like this was coming. Very few teams can afford to give the ball away 4 times in a rivalry game and still hope to win.

* Jay made some mistakes today, yes. So what? The mistakes just show that he's human too, and not yet up to the level of Montana, Young, or Elway flawless execution. But I'm sure that they'll be looking at the game tapes, and Shanahan or Bates will have lots to talk about with missing open receivers to watch only Marshall down the field. I'm sure Jay has heard that before, too. It's just that I'm sure it's easy to forget things like that in the heat of the moment.

* For all the flaws of the Chiefs personnel, they still have one significant asset any time they play the Broncos: <B>Gunther Cunningham.</B> That man has been a thorn in Shanahan's side for a whole bunch of years now. He always seems to know how to plan against Shanahan's offense. Cunningham made a lousy head coach, and he's almost a caricature of himself with the yellow aviator shades, but I have to give him credit as a defensive coordinator.

* One of the pregame articles listed the Chefs as the youngest team in the NFL, with almost half the roster in their first or second years. The Broncos, however, are not all that far behind! This was a growing-pains game, painful as I'm sure it was for all of us to watch too.good post ..even young and Montana and Elway didnt live up to the Myth of young , Montna and Elway ..... ;D

SoCalBronco
09-28-2008, 01:59 PM
That's a good post. Now just take that creepy Avatar down!

Seriously there were some good things.


Despite turning the ball over four times in a row we were still in the game.
A lot of our problems particularly on offense were the result of just flukey stuff. I think I saw six Broncos just slip and fall on their arse this game and we would have scored. It was bizare.
The defense kept us in the game until the turnovers overwhelmed us.
Maybe now Slowik will get fired. :)
Cutler will learn now that he can't keep staring down Brandon Marshall. He has other weapons and needs to spread the ball around.
Special teams is getting better. We still fade after we get gased late in the game, but we're making strides there.


I have generally defended Slowik, but I was getting quite aggravated in the lack of flexibility of the CB positioning in the scheme, today. I know the corners are LCB and RCB and they play on a specific side regardless, but they really need to adjust that. When we are in man, Bailey should go whereever the opponent No. 1 WR lines up. Period. All it takes is some basic formationing to get Bowe on JMFW or Bly or whoever and then we get eaten up. It doesn't do alot of good for Bailey to be covering Jeff Webb.

sisterhellfyre
09-28-2008, 02:02 PM
That's a good post. Now just take that creepy Avatar down!

Awww, c'mon, Kaylore, where's your Halloween spirit?

Regards,
m.

telluride
09-28-2008, 02:03 PM
We should calm down. It's not like we didn't know that games like this we're coming. We just got a little delusional. We're an okay team, nothing more. A very good offense coupled with a very bad defense.

Let's enjoy the offense on its good days, and accept it grudgingly on the occasional bad days. Expect nothing from defense, and be pleasantly surprised if they occasionally stop someone. But all the talk about SBs and division titles and even playoffs is two years away, I suspect. We'll be 9-7 this year, but an entertaining 9-7. Lock up one or two players on defense (and I'm not counting Champ among those), jettison the rest, draft defense, fire Slowik, give the new guy a transition year and aim for 2010.

broncofan2438
09-28-2008, 02:04 PM
I'm not shocked...
as well as the Bronco O has been playing...they hardly ever win at Arrowhead...Shanahan has won what...3 times?
I think losing this game will help them in the long run.

hahahahhaha, hope so

Sassy
09-28-2008, 02:12 PM
Uh...yep...every team loses to a really bad team every once in awhile...just ask the Patriots ;D

Popps
09-28-2008, 02:13 PM
All it takes is some basic formationing to get Bowe on JMFW or Bly or whoever and then we get eaten up. It doesn't do alot of good for Bailey to be covering Jeff Webb.

Commented on that during the game. I can't understand paying Bailey what we pay him, and then putting a rookie on their top receiver.

orangeatheist
09-28-2008, 02:16 PM
What did you expect?

I expected a team that put up 41, 39 & 34 points on previous much better opponents to do AT LEAST that well against an 0-3 KC team.

I expected the Orange Mush to help make an 0-3 KC team look better than they are.

I expected to win.

telluride
09-28-2008, 02:16 PM
Commented on that during the game. I can't understand paying Bailey what we pay him, and then putting a rookie on their top receiver.

Build the defense from the inside out. Champ is an unaffordable luxury on this team. If we can get value for him, we should move him. By the time this defense is ready to compete, he'll be too old anyway.

Miss I.
09-28-2008, 02:16 PM
Does anyone know what happened to the players injured during the game. I know our guy was carted off to a KC hospital, but I never heard a diagnosis? Anyone know? I was going to try to read the threads but it seemed a little daunting and couldn't seem to find anything on the web yet.
Thanks.

sisterhellfyre
09-28-2008, 02:26 PM
That's a good post. Now just take that creepy Avatar down!

Some of the good (and not-so-good) things I noted...


The linebackers actually had a decent day, for the most part. DJ, Boss and Webster moved to the ball fairly well, with decent angles and some good hits. The problems they had came from the Chiefs' line getting to them, because our defensive line barely even slowed down the Chief blockers.

Where was the Bronco d-line today? As far as I could tell, only Dumervil, Peterson, and Ekuban even showed up for the game. Doom at least was out there trying, and getting close to Huard on the pass rush on several occasions, but he can't do it by himself. His heart may be the equal of Mario Williams' as a competitor, but I'm afraid his body still got stuck in the dryer too long.

Champ is still the man. Now that we know few QBs will throw his way very often, can we rotate some safety help over to the other side to support Bly and JMFW? (I know I speak blasphemy in even suggesting that JMFW needs help, but I'll take my chances.)

I was glad to see JMFW out there as the nickel back rather than Paymah. At least it shows the coaches are trying.

The Chiefs defensive line is young and nasty. The battles between them and our young O-line will be epic for years to come. This round goes to the ketchup and mustard. Damn, I hate saying that.

Where did the running game go today? We weren't so far behind that we had to abandon it, but that was the least effective ground attack I've seen in a while.

I want to see Spencer Larsen on the field on defense. Now. In just about any position. If he can bring hits like that on ST, I want to see what he has on regular defensive snaps too. Fullback? Like hell he's a fullback. The Broncos are just stashing him there so he gets some ST and game experience, and nobody else snaps him up.



Regards,
m.

Rohirrim
09-28-2008, 02:33 PM
I agree with SoCal. We should be moving Bailey around where he can be most effective. Make the QB think about where he is on every down. It adds complexity to his reads that many QBs won't be able to deal with effectively.

Miss I.
09-28-2008, 02:37 PM
Agree with all posted above incidentally. Though disappointed by the loss, not nearly as disheartened as some of the others. My feeling is as long as we learn from the mistakes and move on we will be fine and improve on areas we clearly need to (as already discussed in previous posts). Besides KC beat SD last year at home and SD went on to the play offs last year and KC went onto a 4-12 season. It's what the team does afterwards that makes the difference. At any rate, I don't know if anyone else is interested, but I went out and found this article on our fallen WR Clifford Russell: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/scorecard/nflnews.asp?articleID=241022
Have a better afternoon all.

elsid13
09-28-2008, 02:41 PM
Some of the good (and not-so-good) things I noted...


The linebackers actually had a decent day, for the most part. DJ, Boss and Webster moved to the ball fairly well, with decent angles and some good hits. The problems they had came from the Chiefs' line getting to them, because our defensive line barely even slowed down the Chief blockers.

Where was the Bronco d-line today? As far as I could tell, only Dumervil, Peterson, and Ekuban even showed up for the game. Doom at least was out there trying, and getting close to Huard on the pass rush on several occasions, but he can't do it by himself. His heart may be the equal of Mario Williams' as a competitor, but I'm afraid his body still got stuck in the dryer too long.

Champ is still the man. Now that we know few QBs will throw his way very often, can we rotate some safety help over to the other side to support Bly and JMFW? (I know I speak blasphemy in even suggesting that JMFW needs help, but I'll take my chances.)

I was glad to see JMFW out there as the nickel back rather than Paymah. At least it shows the coaches are trying.

The Chiefs defensive line is young and nasty. The battles between them and our young O-line will be epic for years to come. This round goes to the ketchup and mustard. Damn, I hate saying that.

Where did the running game go today? We weren't so far behind that we had to abandon it, but that was the least effective ground attack I've seen in a while.

I want to see Spencer Larsen on the field on defense. Now. In just about any position. If he can bring hits like that on ST, I want to see what he has on regular defensive snaps too. Fullback? Like hell he's a fullback. The Broncos are just stashing him there so he gets some ST and game experience, and nobody else snaps him up.



Regards,
m.


They really need to get Larson onto the field for the defense. He arrive in nasty mood and let folks know it.

broncofan2438
09-28-2008, 04:42 PM
Not sure why everyone is so pissed, we all knew the Broncs would blow an easy game like this

Popps
09-28-2008, 04:49 PM
Build the defense from the inside out. Champ is an unaffordable luxury on this team. If we can get value for him, we should move him. By the time this defense is ready to compete, he'll be too old anyway.

I'd hate to see him go... and I don't think that's the answer. But, I will say... it's sort of a waste to have your premiere defensive player at CB. I'd gladly trade Champ for a DE or MLB of his same talents, or even close.

No one has raved about him around here more than I have. But, it does almost seem a waste to even have him back there. No CB in the world can cover guys as long as our front-four is forcing them to.

He's not the issue, though. The issue is our almost impressive inability to understand the importance of the front seven, and our continued, yearly insistence that we can put low round picks and cast-offs out there and expect to be productive.

broncofan2438
09-28-2008, 04:51 PM
We better not freak out here people....... we better not

enjolras
09-28-2008, 04:51 PM
This wasn't an 'easy' game... this team is not that much better than the chiefs. They're not a playoff team. We're a VERY fortunate 3-1. A blown call and a missed field goal separate us from 1-3. We're a .500 football team right now.

hades
09-28-2008, 04:56 PM
Well, at least we held Johnson under 200 yards.

ZachKC
09-28-2008, 04:56 PM
Calmer than you are.
http://feralboy.com/images/walter.jpg

HEAV
09-28-2008, 04:59 PM
I'll calm down once this team show's it can run the ball and produce a pass rush with sacks.

Until then... it's the same crap as 07,06.

Sling'n the rock all over is fun and all. But being one dimensional will bite you in the ass just when you don't need bitten.

TDmvp
09-28-2008, 05:14 PM
Elway was not the game manager young and montana were... not even close.

He was a gunslinger and so is Jay, but Jay really doesn't have the Favre or Elway cannon.

does everyone have you on ignore ? .... how can you say something that stupid and not get flamed or at least quoted ... kids arm is just as strong as anyones ...

elsid13
09-28-2008, 05:38 PM
This place is so ****ing bi-polar. I love how after a lost half the folks think they are better then Vince Lombardi and Bill Walsh put together, and if Bowlen called them they would fix the team.

Kaylore
09-28-2008, 05:45 PM
I have generally defended Slowik, but I was getting quite aggravated in the lack of flexibility of the CB positioning in the scheme, today. I know the corners are LCB and RCB and they play on a specific side regardless, but they really need to adjust that. When we are in man, Bailey should go whereever the opponent No. 1 WR lines up. Period. All it takes is some basic formationing to get Bowe on JMFW or Bly or whoever and then we get eaten up. It doesn't do alot of good for Bailey to be covering Jeff Webb.

That was so infuriating. They kept getting Bowe matched up on Bly and Jack Williams. WTF?!? Why are we paying Bailey if he's going to cover guys that they have absolutely no intention of throwing to in the first place. I can think of multiple times that Jack Williams was running five yards behind Dwayne Bowe because he would line up on the left side. If their offense is so easily taking your best player out of every play, then you're doing something wrong.

Dagmar
09-28-2008, 05:58 PM
Not sure why everyone is so pissed, we all knew the Broncs would blow an easy game like this

Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrright.

broncofan2438
09-28-2008, 05:59 PM
Calm down people......you heard the title of the thread, we better calm down

cutthemdown
09-28-2008, 06:00 PM
Not sure why everyone is so pissed, we all knew the Broncs would blow an easy game like this

Why do we know that? Because it happens over and over for last 10 yrs. At some point when it happens so often you can predict it, expect it, it gets frustrating.

broncofan2438
09-28-2008, 06:02 PM
Why do we know that? Because it happens over and over for last 10 yrs. At some point when it happens so often you can predict it, expect it, it gets frustrating.

I was being sarcastic........but you knew that

hades
09-28-2008, 06:13 PM
Was it just me, or did it look like the clock kept running in the 4th qtr. when our recievers stepped out of bounds? I swear I saw it happen two times. Maybe it was a good thing tho, LJ would have had more time to run on our crappy Defense.

NaptownChief
09-28-2008, 06:43 PM
I think come next April you guys will be pissed at Eddie Hoc and Martin Gramatica because what seemed like nice gifts to keep you from being 1-3 and playoff hopes alive will have done nothing more than screw up your draft position.

The Chiefs are probably the worst team in the league and the only thing that was proven today was that the Donks aren't very good either. I'm pissed that the Donks took some heat off Carl Peterson and Squirm Edwards.

fdf
09-28-2008, 08:35 PM
Yes, I know, the Broncos just lost to an inferior KC team. Even worse, the Broncos played so poorly they made the Chefs look good. I'd like to offer a few points that might help take the sting out of this one:

* What did you expect? Did you believe the hype that this Broncos team could ride the offense all the way thru the year, with no mistakes or off days? We had to know a day like this was coming. Very few teams can afford to give the ball away 4 times in a rivalry game and still hope to win.

* Jay made some mistakes today, yes. So what? The mistakes just show that he's human too, and not yet up to the level of Montana, Young, or Elway flawless execution. But I'm sure that they'll be looking at the game tapes, and Shanahan or Bates will have lots to talk about with missing open receivers to watch only Marshall down the field. I'm sure Jay has heard that before, too. It's just that I'm sure it's easy to forget things like that in the heat of the moment.

* For all the flaws of the Chiefs personnel, they still have one significant asset any time they play the Broncos: <B>Gunther Cunningham.</B> That man has been a thorn in Shanahan's side for a whole bunch of years now. He always seems to know how to plan against Shanahan's offense. Cunningham made a lousy head coach, and he's almost a caricature of himself with the yellow aviator shades, but I have to give him credit as a defensive coordinator.

* One of the pregame articles listed the Chefs as the youngest team in the NFL, with almost half the roster in their first or second years. The Broncos, however, are not all that far behind! This was a growing-pains game, painful as I'm sure it was for all of us to watch too.

Well, if what you mean is calm down because, it's just a game, I agree with you. But if you mean, for those like me, who probably think the game is more important than it really is in the scheme of things, for God's sake why should I calm down? We just got clobbered by the WORST team in the league. That's a rational and perfectly reasonable basis to be pissed off and upset.

Since the superbowls, every year with the Broncs, there's a game where i realize that they are just another slghtly above average team. (Last year, it was of course obvious they weren't even that good). Aod that all the hopes of pre-season and early season success were just orange colored glasses and/or statistical flukes. This was that game this year.

I don't like that realization. And I don't have any problem with not liking it one little bit. We are a franchise mired in mediocrity year in and year out. Maybe that will change sometime in the future--but there have been reasons to think that before. And they never pan out.

cutthemdown
09-28-2008, 08:38 PM
I think come next April you guys will be pissed at Eddie Hoc and Martin Gramatica because what seemed like nice gifts to keep you from being 1-3 and playoff hopes alive will have done nothing more than screw up your draft position.

The Chiefs are probably the worst team in the league and the only thing that was proven today was that the Donks aren't very good either. I'm pissed that the Donks took some heat off Carl Peterson and Squirm Edwards.

Meh a few spots in the draft is over-rated. Look at Cutler he was drafted behind 2 other qbs.

BroncoMan4ever
09-28-2008, 09:18 PM
we have won in KC 3 times in Shanahan's entire tenure as Head Coach. No matter what, it was a divisional game against the Chiefs. Unlike San Diego and Oakland teams when they suck. The Chiefs are not a easy win. They always play Denver close and are usually almost unbeatable in Arrowhead.

I say look toward next week and chalk this one up to being very young and having terrible Safety play and Robertson being out.

Everyone is saying Johnson gashed us, which is true, but no one has brought up, that our best interior run stopper was out of the game. I truly think had he been in there, no way does Johnson destroy us.

SouthStndJunkie
09-28-2008, 09:19 PM
Build the defense from the inside out. Champ is an unaffordable luxury on this team. If we can get value for him, we should move him. By the time this defense is ready to compete, he'll be too old anyway.

That would be a foolish move.

You get rid of Champ and then we will be wasting draft picks trying to get a decent corner in here again.

We can rebuild the defense and he needs to be a part of it.

Wes Mantooth
09-28-2008, 09:24 PM
I think what happened was the Broncs really felt bad about the officiating from the Chargers game. They wanted to give every opportunity to a team less fortunate than them and thought their was not a more needy case than the Chefs.

BroncoMan4ever
09-28-2008, 09:26 PM
Elway was not the game manager young and montana were... not even close.

He was a gunslinger and so is Jay, but Jay really doesn't have the Favre or Elway cannon.

Are you retarded? Jay has one of, if not the strongest arm in the league. Elway had an absolute cannon for an arm and Favre has almost as strong on an arm and Jay has the same arm.

Also, to be a game manager you need a ground game that works. Both Young and Montana had good running games. Right now Jay has receiving weapons and he has to make due with what he has. And because of that he will throw occasional bad passes but he will also win a lot of games with his arm.
Young and Favre didn't win games with their arms, they managed their teams loaded with talent to wins. Jay currently has no defense, a crappy running game(hopefully Torain changes that) a cannon arm that he uses to get the ball into his only playmakers. Jay can and will win games with his rocket arm, but there are also going to be mistakes.

Elway won us a ton of games on his own, but he also occasionally threw a bad pass.
look at it this way, Denver is 3-1 atop the AFC West and things could be worse.

Foochacho
09-28-2008, 09:30 PM
That would be a foolish move.

You get rid of Champ and then we will be wasting draft picks trying to get a decent corner in here again.

We can rebuild the defense and he needs to be a part of it.

Agreed, Wow some people are retarded, yea let's get rid of our best defensive player. Yes it sucks that our bestd player is a corner but if champ isn't there we have no one to pick up the trash from our line and lb's. What would we get for him? If we get a d end to rush the qb it still won't help without a corner the qb will have a wide open reciever. If we get draft picks then we have to wait a year or two before they make an impact(if they make an impact).

The only thing we can do at this point is change up our scheme play as best as we can and hope our D can start giving up less points. We have no defensive players to trade. We do have offensive players but why ruin the chemistry of the number one offense in the league. Who could we get rid of that wouldn't hurt us?

We will just have to wait until the draft to fix the D. And for now they will have to work on some fundamentals to get us through the rest of this season.

chawknz
09-28-2008, 10:18 PM
s*#t happens. We didn't expect a perfect season, right? Our record at Arrowhead sucks and this just continues the trend. We'll work it out.

!Booya!

Malcontent
09-28-2008, 10:25 PM
s*#t happens. We didn't expect a perfect season, right? Our record at Arrowhead sucks and this just continues the trend. We'll work it out.

!Booya!

I agree there chawk..Lets move on to beating the Bucs.

Lomax
09-29-2008, 02:20 AM
Build the defense from the inside out. Champ is an unaffordable luxury on this team. If we can get value for him, we should move him. By the time this defense is ready to compete, he'll be too old anyway.

LOL...I can't imagine how poor this defense would be without Champ.

footstepsfrom#27
09-29-2008, 02:35 AM
There is no "calm down" for this crap. We just lost to a crap 0-3 team now 1-3. Shanny should start kicking someones ass, there is no excuse
He needs to start by kicking his own ass then. How many DC's has he hired and fired in the last 10 years? How many crap draft choices that failed? How many Browncos? How many reclamation projects?

He's utterly clueless on how to handle this side of the ball, and it looks like it's getting worse not better.

Bob's your Information Minister
09-29-2008, 03:27 AM
You guys are giving Gunther credit now?

Good times.

MVP-06
09-29-2008, 09:45 AM
I think only Broncos fans become damn near suicidal after going 3-1. Last week everyone is ready to crown Cutler the next Elway.

This week he is a POS who stares down his receivers and needs to step up.

Good grief we had a bad game. Good news is we still get to play this weekend. What did we expect this year, 16-0? I was predicting 8-8 and home for the playoffs.

At the very least we are going to be contending for a wild-card. Lets get behind our guys and support them instead of bashng them

Tombstone RJ
09-29-2008, 09:49 AM
Shanahan needs to take a page out of the Jeff Fischer school of building a defense. Seriously, Jeff would have had this problem solved years ago...

BroncoMan4ever
09-30-2008, 12:48 AM
Shanahan needs to take a page out of the Jeff Fischer school of building a defense. Seriously, Jeff would have had this problem solved years ago...

Fisher would have Denver completely opposite of what they are now. All defense and not much offense.

Florida_Bronco
09-30-2008, 12:58 AM
Well, if what you mean is calm down because, it's just a game, I agree with you. But if you mean, for those like me, who probably think the game is more important than it really is in the scheme of things, for God's sake why should I calm down? We just got clobbered by the WORST team in the league. That's a rational and perfectly reasonable basis to be pissed off and upset.

We didn't get "clobbered" by ANY stretch of the imagination.

Odysseus
09-30-2008, 01:21 AM
That's a good post. Now just take that creepy Avatar down!

Seriously there were some good things.


Despite turning the ball over four times in a row we were still in the game.
A lot of our problems particularly on offense were the result of just flukey stuff. I think I saw six Broncos just slip and fall on their arse this game and we would have scored. It was bizare.
The defense kept us in the game until the turnovers overwhelmed us.
Maybe now Slowik will get fired. :)
Cutler will learn now that he can't keep staring down Brandon Marshall. He has other weapons and needs to spread the ball around.
Special teams is getting better. We still fade after we get gased late in the game, but we're making strides there.


If this team is going to get into the playoffs they need to keep focuse on every Sunday. This is still a relatively young team so this isn't that bad of a loss this early in the season. Team needed to wakeup and hopefully this will get them back on track.

How do you turn over the ball four times and are still in the game?