What?

[frerottenextelway]

From the one who "knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America":

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/quote-for-th-24.html

"Oil and coal? Of course, it’s a fungible commodity and they don’t flag, you know, the molecules, where it’s going and where it’s not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first,” Palin said. “So, I believe that what Congress is going to do, also, is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it’s Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It’s got to flow into our domestic markets first," - Sarah Palin (http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/18/palin-energy-nonsense/), Energy Expert and University of Idaho graduate in sports journalism.

[Spider]

From the one who "knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America":

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/quote-for-th-24.html

what in the **** is she babbling about ? . I need to reread that quote again

[Spider]

I need to see the entire quote

[Spider]

Is she driving at man manipulation with molecules in oil and coal ? outside of using Co2 gas , I am not aware of any new tech to get oil .......
the only Molecules I am personally aware of man is manipulating for energy , is microbs for methane gas farms

[frerottenextelway]

I need to see the entire quote

I think there's a video here:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/18/palin-energy-nonsense/

,but I'm blocked from that at work.

[frerottenextelway]

Is she driving at man manipulation with molecules in oil and coal ? outside of using Co2 gas , I am not aware of any new tech to get oil .......
the only Molecules I am personally aware of man is manipulating for energy , is microbs for methane gas farms

Your guess is as good as mine. I think she may be a Klingon.

[USAFBronco]

I think she's trying to say that you cant flag the oil molecules to see where it's going but that congress will not pass a ban on exporting our oil?

Sorry my crazy person speak is rusty

[Spider]

well oil being fungible doesnt have **** to do with anything , as for Molecules , she is using the if you cant dazzle em with brilliance baffle em with bullsh*t tactic ..... now the reporter is right , Alaska has very little if not any Natty gas supplies , 2 main types of energy in Alaska that I am aware of Oil and wood ....

[Garcia Bronco]

She's saying that oil needs to stay here and satistify our needs first before it's exported to other countries.

[Spider]

I think she's trying to say that you cant flag the oil molecules to see where it's going but that congress will not pass a ban on exporting our oil?

Sorry my crazy person speak is rusty

that could be but you dont need to flag molecules to see where oil is going ...... as too passing a ban that would be damn hard since Texaco ,Chevron etc is global ..... I dont know where she was trying to go with anything ...

[Spider]

She's saying that oil needs to stay here and satistify our needs first before it's exported to other countries.

But the oil belongs to big oil , they are global ........

[frerottenextelway]

Sorry my crazy person speak is rusty

LOL ROFL! LOL

[Odysseus]

Is there more to this? What is she talking about?

[Garcia Bronco]

But the oil belongs to big oil , they are global ........
That doesn't matter. Government can make laws regarding commerce.

[Spider]

That doesn't matter. Government can make laws regarding commerce.

so what how do we go about Canada ? any oil that comes from Alaska crosses over Canadian territory ? if big oil wanted to they could ship more then what they claim and sell the excess oil out of Canada ......... Palin is just babbling on this , she has no real point , no way to re enforce her bull****

[Mr.Meanie]

Actually if you re-order her statements into lines of poetry, it's quite beautiful.


Oil and Coal - by Sarah Palin
Oil and coal? Of course, it’s a fungible commodity
and they don’t flag, you know, the molecules,
where it’s going and where it’s not.

But in the sense of the Congress today, they know
that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need
that oil first. So, I believe that what Congress is going to do

also, is not to allow the export bans to such a
degree that it’s Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without
the energy source that is produced here, pumped here.

It’s got to flow into our domestic markets first

[Spider]

once you decipher palin speak , you see that her babbling is bull****

[USAFBronco]

Actually if you re-order her statements into lines of poetry, it's quite beautiful.


Oil and Coal - by Sarah Palin
Oil and coal? Of course, it’s a fungible commodity
and they don’t flag, you know, the molecules,
where it’s going and where it’s not.

But in the sense of the Congress today, they know
that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need
that oil first. So, I believe that what Congress is going to do

also, is not to allow the export bans to such a
degree that it’s Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without
the energy source that is produced here, pumped here.

It’s got to flow into our domestic markets first

ROFL!

[Spider]

Is there more to this? What is she talking about?

in a round about way she is saying .Hey Spider ..... i want you ;D

[gyldenlove]

That doesn't matter. Government can make laws regarding commerce.

That is true, but since America is nowhere near self sufficient when it comes to oil, what would it help? if you start ****ing with international oil companies and they **** back there will be a lot of cars and factories just standing there and rusting. Oil doesn't get cheaper by putting up ban on export.

[ScottXray]

That is true, but since America is nowhere near self sufficient when it comes to oil, what would it help? if you start ****ing with international oil companies and they **** back there will be a lot of cars and factories just standing there and rusting. Oil doesn't get cheaper by putting up ban on export.

No it doesn't. What you do is make them pay extra royalties for exporting it...
to the point that they'll seriously consider not doing so. Cut their profits on the cheap oil they want to take out of OUR grounds and put up for anyone to grab.

These bastards have been running things long enough.

[frerottenextelway]

That is true, but since America is nowhere near self sufficient when it comes to oil, what would it help? if you start ****ing with international oil companies and they **** back there will be a lot of cars and factories just standing there and rusting. Oil doesn't get cheaper by putting up ban on export.

I think we only export to Canada and Mexico (who we import much more from), but her statement makes so little sense I'm not sure that's what she meant anyways.

[Odysseus]

in a round about way she is saying .Hey Spider ..... i want you ;D

You better be careful. I bet she could handle you!

[Rohirrim]

Your guess is as good as mine. I think she may be a Klingon.

Hilarious! No. She's from the planet Bobo. She's a ****ing boob.

[Spider]

You better be careful. I bet she could handle you!

not that I would put a fight ......... Chance to nail a MILF that is a vp candidate ........ ;D

[Odysseus]

That is true, but since America is nowhere near self sufficient when it comes to oil, what would it help? if you start ****ing with international oil companies and they **** back there will be a lot of cars and factories just standing there and rusting. Oil doesn't get cheaper by putting up ban on export.

How do you know? Have you ever governed a state? None of your ideas could possibly be good because Ms. Palin has actually had to be accountable. You are clearly all being sexist not listening to her clear and concise answers. I am ashamed to be posting here.





(bitter tongue in cheek kidding)

[Spider]

That is true, but since America is nowhere near self sufficient when it comes to oil,

thats just it , we could be sufficient in oil .......... there is more oil in Colorado then there is in the entire middle east ..... Shale oil ........

[frerottenextelway]

thats just it , we could be sufficient in oil .......... there is more oil in Colorado then there is in the entire middle east ..... Shale oil ........

Yeah, but you can't flag, you know, the molecules, of that fungible commodity - can you?

[Rohirrim]

Yeah, but you can't flag, you know, the molecules, of that fungible commodity - can you?

I'd like to flag her fungible commodities, if you get my drift. ;)

[Spider]

Yeah, but you can't flag, you know, the molecules, of that fungible commodity - can you?

LOL .....

[sisterhellfyre]

not that I would put a fight ......... Chance to nail a MILF that is a vp candidate ........ ;D

Careful there, Spider, "nail" in this context does not mean "punch in the throat."

Or maybe it does, come to think of it...

Regards,
m.

[sisterhellfyre]

From the one who "knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America":

"Oil and coal? Of course, it’s a fungible commodity and they don’t flag, you know, the molecules, where it’s going and where it’s not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first. So, I believe that what Congress is going to do, also, is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it’s Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It’s got to flow into our domestic markets first."
-- Sarah Palin

"I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don't have maps, and, uh, I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq everywhere like, such as and I believe that they should, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., er, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future for our children."
-- Lauren Caitlin Upton, Miss South Carolina Teen USA

Riiiiight, ladies.... Let's swap out McCain for Upton, like tomorrow, and make it the Palin/Upton ticket! We'll keep those feisty Russians and Chinese and Al-Qaedas peaceful by confusing the heck out of them. They won't know what the hell anybody's talking about!

Then, of course, neither will we, but we're used to that from Washington DC...

Regards,
m.

[Spider]

Careful there, Spider, "nail" in this context does not mean "punch in the throat."

Or maybe it does, come to think of it...

Regards,
m.

LOL Punching her is not part of the fantasy

[Play2win]

Does she even know what a "Molecule" is... Hilarious!

[gunns]

Onetime Alaskan backer-turned-foe is 'shocked' by Palin's pick as McCain V.P.
By Robert Gehrke
The Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated: 09/19/2008 10:54:16 AM MDT


Palin's glasses are in vogue, and designer is grateful for publicitySarah Palin's meteoric rise to political superstardom got its start thanks to Nick Carney, who soon came to regret the move.
Carney, who now lives in Ivins, Utah, has known Palin almost her whole life - his daughter went to school and played basketball with Sarah "Barracuda" Heath. He recruited her to run for office, but says her tenure as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, was a disappointment, during which she looked out for herself and her cronies who she put in management positions.
Since Palin was nominated to be vice president, he has received countless phone calls from media outlets and he has given less than glowing reviews on his former colleague.
"I'm shocked" that she was picked to be vice president, Carney said Thursday. "And the reason I am has nothing to do with our personal relationship. As a voter, I can't believe Mr. McCain would pick someone who has no foreign experience, someone who has . . . nothing to offer for solving our economic woes, has, frankly, far less experience in the energy field than she would like to think she does."
Palin's recruitment
In 1992, Carney, then president of the Wasilla Chamber of Commerce, and other business owners worked to enact a
2 percent sales tax to create a police department, and ran for city council to make sure the department got funded.
To help the cause, he recruited Palin, then 28, a political newcomer who agreed to run if she got help with the race. The sales tax narrowly passed and both Carney and Palin won council seats.
For 18 months she did a fine job, said Carney. Then she began harsh attacks on Mayor John Stein, he said. Then, in 1996, she took on Stein in a race that Carney said was unlike any the town had seen.
"I termed it the end of the innocence for the city," he said. She injected party loyalty into the race for the first time, campaigned against the sales tax she had supported, and worked for endorsements from the National Rifle Association and a national anti-abortion advocacy group, Carney said.
"That is unfortunately, in this nation, how elections are run and won," Carney said. "That's what the voter responds to I guess, and she's very good about telling the voters what they want to hear."
She won the race and in her first year remodeled her office, Carney said. As he recalls, she broke the law by spending $55,000 of road maintenance funds, without the council's permission.
"When I braced her about that, her response, and I will never forget it, is 'I'm the mayor and I can do anything I want until the courts say I can't,'" he recalls.
Political debts;
Carney watched as Palin fired many of the long-serving city employees, including the librarian, police chief and museum manager. She hired the former lawyer for the Alaska Republican Party to be the new city attorney. He said she was simply repaying political debts.
"Always, her first question is: 'How is this decision going to affect me and my administration. It was never, 'Is this the best thing for the city of Wasilla?'" said Carney.
The McCain campaign defends Palin's tenure as mayor and boasted of her accomplishments.
"Governor Palin wanted to change Wasilla for the better so it could be a place you can raise a family, have a quality job and be part of the community. She did exactly what you need to do to lay the foundation for lasting, sustainable economic growth she cut taxes, made key infrastructural improvements that brought in business and created new opportunities," said McCain spokeswoman Maria Comella.
In a 2006 profile in the Anchorage Daily News, Palin, who was then running for governor, acknowledged a bumpy relationship with Carney.
"I couldn't do anything without Nick Carney griping about it. That was the nature of our relationship," she told The News. "I could have walked across Lake Lucille on the water, and he would have griped about me splashing."
In a new biography of Palin titled Sarah, Wasilla City Councilwoman Judy Patrick, said "Nick Carney told Sarah to her face that he'd do anything he could to make things difficult . . .There were some very cantankerous people on that council."
Carney was part of a group of residents who formed Concerned Citizens for Wasilla to consider a recall effort against Palin, but they did not pursue it, according to reports.
Carney says he never made any such threat.
Utah Rep. Steve Urquhart, R-St. George, has heard the criticism of Palin and said it doesn't change his unabashed support.
"What really intrigues me in Governor Palin is her quick rise and how she did it. You don't just go from where she was to governor of the manliest state in the nation rolling over the top of the establishment unless you really have political skills," he said.
Cold weather escape
Carney and his wife moved to Ivins permanently about four years ago. They passed through St. George, almost by accident several years earlier on their way to Mesquite for a golf outing with Todd Palin's parents.
They had been looking for someplace to escape Alaska's winters and Carney's wife was so impressed with the beauty that they began spending more and more time in the area, eventually buying a house, but he still feels his roots are in Alaska.
"I normally would be absolutely ecstatic that an Alaskan would have the opportunity to get to a position like that," he said. "Unfortunately, she's not the person."

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

McCain Attacks Wall Street Greed

While 83 Wall Street lobbyists work to get him elected

Link (http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/09/17-7)

Excerpt:
Phil Anderson: AIG
Wayne Berman: AIG, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac
Charlie Black: Freddie Mac
Judy Black: Merrill Lynch
Kirk Blalock: Fannie Mae
Carlos Bonilla: Freddie Mac
Mark Buse: Freddie Mac
Nicholas Calio: Fannie Mae, Merrill Lynch
Andrew Cantor: Merrill Lynch
Alberto Cardenas: Fannie Mae
James Courter: Merrill Lynch
David Crane: Freddie Mac
Dan Crippen: Merrill Lynch
Arthur Culvahouse: Fannie Mae
Alfonse D'Amato: AIG, Freddie Mac
Melissa Edwards: Freddie Mac
Benjamin Ginsberg: AIG
John Green: AIG, Fannie Mae
Vicki Hart: Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch
Richard Hohlt: Fannie Mae
Kate Hull: Fannie Mae
James Hyland: Merrill Lynch, Freddie Mac
Aleix Jarvis: Fannie Mae
Thomas Loeffler: Fannie Mae
Peter Madigan: Fannie Mae, Merrill Lynch
Alison McSlarrow: Fannie Mae
Susan Molinari: Freddie Mac
John Napier: Freddie Mac
Susan Nelson: AIG
James Pitts: AIG
Aquiles Suarez: Fannie Mae
Don Sundquist: Freddie Mac
William Timmons Sr.: Freddie Mac
Vin Weber: Freddie Mac

[Bronco Bob]

She's saying that oil needs to stay here and satistify our needs first before it's exported to other countries.

So why not just say that in English instead of Klingonese?