Moss to play vs. NO

[Marshall Dumervil]

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/sep/17/broncos-play-defensive-end-moss-vs-saints/

It's about time.

ENGLEWOOD — The Broncos are done saying, “No Moss.”

When the team plays host to the New Orleans Saints on Sunday, former No. 1 draft pick Jarvis Moss is expected to make his 2008 debut after two weeks of being declared inactive as a healthy scratch.

“I’m going to get myself ready this week and practice like I’ve never practiced and watch film like I’ve never watched film,” Moss said Wednesday. “And I plan on having a big game.”

Throughout training camp, Moss filled a pass-rushing role in nickel situations. Facing run-heavy teams like Oakland and San Diego to open the season might have factored heavily in the decision to keep him in street clothes on game day. But at the same time, in obvious passing situations, the Broncos have struggled to apply consistent pressure.

The thought seems to be that Moss could be a pick-me-up if he can throw down Saints quarterback Drew Brees, who spearheads the NFL’s No. 7 pass offense.

“My goals haven’t changed at all,” said Moss, who said in training camp his goal is eight sacks this season. “It’s my first game, three weeks in, and I need to get it started right now. That’s something that helps me on Sundays is that drive, that no one can stop me.”

Actually, the coaches were able to pull the plug long before the weekend. The call to sit Moss hurt him personally both weeks but especially last Sunday, when he flew people into town to watch him not play.

Moss said he must abide by what is decided, and he does, especially since the Broncos are off to a 2-0 start without him.

But he doesn’t have to like it.

“It’s kind of personal,” he said. “I want to prove to everybody that I should be playing every single week.”

Even though the coaches kept him informed of their plans the past couple of weeks, it didn’t make Moss feel any better once the decision was made to bench him.

“It’s tough,” Moss said. “You kind of feel like people don’t believe in you or think they can’t count on you. I know that’s not the case. They wouldn’t have picked me where they did if they didn’t have faith in me and just get ready to call quits on me so soon. I know my coaches believe in me. That’s why I’ve got this opportunity this week.”

[sixtimeseight]

Good, he can't be any worse than Dumerville the past two weeks.

[no-pseudo-fan]

Getter Done!!!!

[Old Dude]

Sad that our #1 pick in 2007 gets headlines for being activated 3 games into 2008.

[Doggcow]

I wish we could start him opposite Doom on passing downs. Doom is a great pass rusher despite what has happened to him the past couple games.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Take it personally, Jarvis, cuz it is. You suck the sweat off a dead guy's nuts. I have no idea what that means, but you bet your arse it's personal. Get it done, kid.

[Garcia Bronco]

Doom is just a liablilty in the running game. He let atleast one of the big plays we allowed last week. He needs to get better, or we need to trade him.

[ANIMAL24]

finally

[MVP-06]

Talk is cheap, prove it to me on the field!

BTW im a Florida Gator fan and a Moss supporter, but I wan't him to take his frustrations out onto the field, not into the media.

[Garcia Bronco]

Expect Moss to be inactive whenever we play teams with heavy running games.

[sixtimeseight]

Doom is just a liablilty in the running game. He let atleast one of the big plays we allowed last week. He needs to get better, or we need to trade him.

Yea, Sproles made him look foolish on multiple occasions.

[Old Dude]

Who got deactivated?

[Crushaholic]

Yea, Sproles made him look foolish on multiple occasions.

Sproles is going to make many defenses look foolish. The kid is quick...

[MVP-06]

so the thread says he is starting but the article makes it sounds like he just will be playing. Any conformation on starting or just making an apperance?

[DomCasual]

I don't see anything in there that says he's going to start. Am I missing something?

[sixtimeseight]

Who got deactivated?
Hopefully Webster.

[sixtimeseight]

Sproles is going to make many defenses look foolish. The kid is quick...

Yea, but Dumerville was out of position on numerous plays which allowed Sproles to get to the second layer in the first place.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Paging Karl Paymah...take a seat, son.

[Marshall Dumervil]

I don't see anything in there that says he's going to start. Am I missing something?

It did say he was going to start, I checked back on RMN and am seeing it's changed. I will fix title.


Originally published 01:01 p.m., September 17, 2008
Updated 01:57 p.m., September 17, 2008

Dirty pricks lied to me. Changed the story.

EDIT:
Looks like I can't edit the title, maybe a mod can fix it?

[telluride]

Okay, Jarvis, time to step it up. I hope he surprises us all. Because we gave up a lot to get him. If he turns out to be a bust, it isn't one player lost, it's three.

[Br0nc0Buster]

wow this is surprisng

He goes from not even being activated to being a starter?
Our dline is such a joke right now

He needs to show something, cmon Moss put your money where your mouth is

BTW whose spot is he taking?
Dooms?

[55CrushEm]

Hopefully Webster.

Exactly. I say start Woodyard at Mike.....he can't be any worse.

[SoDak Bronco]

they need to play JMFW in nickle of paymah..can't be any worse.

[bpc]

We overpaid like crazy for this guy.

We could have had Reggie Nelson at the same spot.

[Rock Chalk]

Changes that should be made this week:

Jack Williams over Karl "PI" Paymah
Jarvis Moss over Engleberger (yes, I know this will be a run liability, wait, it gets better).
Woodyard over Nate "Woo Lick" Webster
Abdullah (Healthy?) over Manuel, keep him in the box for run support.

Problem solved.

[bap454]

Exactly. I say start Woodyard at Mike.....he can't be any worse.

I with you on this one!:thumbs:

[Broncos4Life]

Hope he can get pressure on Brees. Nobody else on that line has done much.

[sixtimeseight]

Or we could try out the MLB that we overpaid to bring here. The one who was supposedly only on the bench because he was behind Tatupu.

[MVP-06]

We overpaid like crazy for this guy.

We could have had Reggie Nelson at the same spot.

Nelson was the guy I wanted, however I thought Moss was a nice pick as well. Hopefully he starts to get it turned around. Remember this is really his rookie year

[HEAV]

Where does it say starting? He's just going to be used as a nickle pass rusher on known passing downs.

[Memento]

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EDIT:
Looks like I can't edit the title, maybe a mod can fix it?

After you've clicked on 'Edit' to edit your comments, click on 'Go Advanced' if you want to edit the title.

[Marshall Dumervil]

After you've clicked on 'Edit' to edit your comments, click on 'Go Advanced' if you want to edit the title.

Thanks, damn RMN

[Hamrob]

Expect Moss to be inactive whenever we play teams with heavy running games.Yeah? While we'er at it..we might as well deactivate Doom during such games as well. He's no better!

[MABroncoFan]

I started another thread about this, but why was Abdullah deactivated Sunday ... he wasn't listed on the injury report.

[broncofan2438]

Moss better have a coming out pary! I want to see him kick some ass

[Schism]

I suspect last Sunday may have been a bit of an eye opener for the coaches.

Jarvis will be active most games from now on, and will likely see more than his fair share of snaps. Unless he's completely sucking donkey balls in practice then you have to have him in there on passing downs in the games, you just can't give QB's the time we afforded Rivers on Sunday and expect to stop anyone.

At the minute, the lack of development of Moss and Crowder is what's stopping this team being a real force. The only way we become a legitimate contender this year is if these two start contributing something as the season wears on.

They don't have to be pro-bowlers, just become a bit of a threat to get to the QB and give us something other than Elvis to worry our opponents with on 3rd downs. Just give us some flashes and help us make some key 3rd down stops.

We don't need a dominant D to contend with the offense we possess, just a competent one who can hold their own and not get driven on every single series.

If we can get something from these two as the year goes on, then things might get interesting. As it stands though, it's very much looking like wishful thinking as they've produced nothing thus far.

[broncosteven]

I started another thread about this, but why was Abdullah deactivated Sunday ... he wasn't listed on the injury report.

Is Ramadahn going on now? I thought it was at the start of the season.

[sixtimeseight]

Is Ramadahn going on now? I thought it was at the start of the season.

Ramadan ends this Friday. However, as a professional athlete, he should be expected to play every Sunday of the year, regardless of religious holidays. Has he missed games in the past due to Ramadan?

[ludo21]

Motivated Moss = a sack.

[Beantown Bronco]

Who got deactivated?

Colbert?

[Popps]

Little baby's all growsed up!!!!!!

[Popps]

Doom is just a liablilty in the running game. He let atleast one of the big plays we allowed last week. He needs to get better, or we need to trade him.

We can't trade him. We literally don't have another human being on the roster that could even describe to you what a quarterback sack is.

He's a liability against the run, and you're right... he did make a sloppy play on that Sproles run... but he's absolutely the ONLY guy we have with any pass-rush skills.

That said, Dumervil tends to go absolutely AWOL against good teams in big games. That's a trend that needs to end in a big way.

[theAPAOps5]

What gets me from that story is how he says he is going to practice and watch film like he never has before.

Maybe he should have had that attitude all year so he wasn't inactive. I doubt we see much from him on Sunday. A bunch of him running and hitting the wall that is an OT.

[Los Broncos]

Someone on this board said he would have a breakout game and get 5 sacks.

If he touches the QB five times I'll be happy.

[theAPAOps5]

Someone on this board said he would have a breakout game and get 5 sacks.

If he touches the QB five times I'll be happy.

That someone can't even type and is the biggest waste of space on this internet site. So his credibility is lacking at best.

[Schism]

That said, Dumervil tends to go absolutely AWOL against good teams in big games. That's a trend that needs to end in a big way.

No denying that, but it's hardly surprising when he's our only pass rushing threat whatsoever is it?

Teams with good lines can just double Elvis and take him out of the equation, knowing that nobody else on our line is likely to cause any hassle, even with only one blocker each to negotiate.

We desperately need Moss and Crowder to start showing something, anything. If teams start having to keep an eye on them too then Elvis will benefit in turn. Ekuban being completely healthy again would be nice too, as he at least has some pass-rush ability unlike Engleberger.

[CasinoRoyal]

Dude Moss needws to be out there regardless.

He still needs the reps and the experience.

Dumervil is a situational pass rusher who doesnt know whether to rush or get blown backwards on a running play when hes playing 1st and 2nd down.

Then on the other side we have a guy in Engelberger who has no pass rush ability at all.........But yet we wonder why we dont get any pressure???

Just start Crowder and Moss and rotate after that depending on situations.

Moss if he keeps gettign stronger should be able to hold his own vs the run and thats something Dumervil cant do.

Moss= 3 sacks this week.

[CasinoRoyal]

And why scream to start Wesley @ MLB??

Dudes 112 pounds.........

[BroncoBuff]

“I’m going to get myself ready this week and practice like I’ve never practiced and watch film like I’ve never watched film,” Moss said Wednesday. “And I plan on having a big game.”
I can't believe he actually said that ... :oyvey:

[CasinoRoyal]

What gets me from that story is how he says he is going to practice and watch film like he never has before.

Maybe he should have had that attitude all year so he wasn't inactive. I doubt we see much from him on Sunday. A bunch of him running and hitting the wall that is an OT.

Maybe its just a figure of speech.........

[CasinoRoyal]

Besides we cant afford to not have all our pass rushers available for gameday....

Sitting there watching elgelberger and ekuban and them and dumervil get no pressure.......Can Moss even be any worst?

[cmhargrove]

I hope they stunt Moss to the inside like they did in the Dallas preseason game. That actually worked pretty well.

Otherwise, why don't we just blitz a LB - can't be any worse than what we did against SD.

[Br0nc0Buster]

We overpaid like crazy for this guy.

We could have had Reggie Nelson at the same spot.

How do you know this?
People keep saying we could of had Nelson but what evidence do you have?

The reason Jax let us trade up was because it was understood we wouldnt take Nelson. If we would of told Jax that and went ahead and drafted Nelson no one would ever trade with us again.

So no we realistically never had a shot at Nelson.
I dont like Moss, but the Nelson argument holds no water.

[CasinoRoyal]

And im not putting to much stock into our defense getting scored on by th Chargers.

Thats a divisional emotional type game.

Cowboys went on the road and shut the browns down and came back home to get torched on defense by a divisional team.

Shyt happens within the division.

But were gonna need Moss this weekend playing the Saints. I expect them to chunk it a bit being that Bush is not a pounder and Deuce is average.

[dreasher54]

finally

[Br0nc0Buster]

Dude Moss needws to be out there regardless.

He still needs the reps and the experience.

Dumervil is a situational pass rusher who doesnt know whether to rush or get blown backwards on a running play when hes playing 1st and 2nd down.

Then on the other side we have a guy in Engelberger who has no pass rush ability at all.........But yet we wonder why we dont get any pressure???

Just start Crowder and Moss and rotate after that depending on situations.

Moss if he keeps gettign stronger should be able to hold his own vs the run and thats something Dumervil cant do.

Moss= 3 sacks this week.

3 sacks?
Ok that is just ridiculous.
Moss couldnt even get pressure against scrubs in preseason.
His best chance of getting a sack Sunday is if he trips and falls towards the qb at the line of scrimmage.

[CasinoRoyal]

How do you know this?
People keep saying we could of had Nelson but what evidence do you have?

The reason Jax let us trade up was because it was understood we wouldnt take Nelson. If we would of told Jax that and went ahead and drafted Nelson no one would ever trade with us again.

So no we realistically never had a shot at Nelson.
I dont like Moss, but the Nelson argument holds no water.

Nelson is who i thought we were taking when we moved up myself.

But niether have been anything good or special at the ealy stages of there careers.

Moss is still a rookie anyway the dudes got like 7 games to his name.......

Lets not get spoiled with how many rookies or young guys are playing well and turn that into EVERY last one of them will do the same.

Thats not reality

[CasinoRoyal]

3 sacks?
Ok that is just ridiculous.
Moss couldnt even get pressure against scrubs in preseason.
His best chance of getting a sack Sunday is if he trips and falls towards the qb at the line of scrimmage.

Those were just game reps he needed to get back in game time shape.

Hopefully hes been working on his moves.

3 sacks is how i see it.

You dont too bad but i hope im right because if i am........Well it helps the Broncos.

[TheReverend]

Jack Williams over Karl "PI" Paymah

Wow, holy ****, I just got that. I seriously thought that was a reference to the 3.14 pi (as in: Karl Paymah surrenders a never ending number of completions) and not the pass interference pi.

I actually think I like my interpretation better.

[BroncoBen]

Good.. maybe this will light a fire under Moss.

But then again he should have that fire burning already, having to sit for the last couple of games.

Now show us what you got ... go out and ring Drew Brees's bell son.

[Los Broncos]

Shut it down Royal, Moss is not getting 3-5 sacks this week.

[TheReverend]

Is Ramadahn going on now? I thought it was at the start of the season.

Harris does the same thing and he's playing at a high level during his fast. Hamza was needed last Sunday and it would've been a cleaner win with him on the field.

[broncosteven]

I hope they stunt Moss to the inside like they did in the Dallas preseason game. That actually worked pretty well.

Otherwise, why don't we just blitz a LB - can't be any worse than what we did against SD.

They did, it got picked up.

One big 3rd down they sent 6-7 guys and Rivers was untouched.

[Master___Pain]

Can Moss even be any worst?

Any worst? Did you mean like bratwurst? Weiswurst?

[CasinoRoyal]

Shut it down Royal, Moss is not getting 3-5 sacks this week.

3 to 5??

Lol i said 3

[CasinoRoyal]

Any worst? Did you mean like bratwurst? Weiswurst?

Dont know what your talking about sunny boy.

[broncosteven]

Harris does the same thing and he's playing at a high level during his fast. Hamza was needed last Sunday and it would've been a cleaner win with him on the field.

Ryan Harris is a muslim?

[Los Broncos]

3 to 5??

Lol i said 3

You said he would have a breakout game and get five at some point.

3 wont happen sir.

And if he gets one sack dont come in pimping it.

[CasinoRoyal]

The 5 will come vs the Chiefs.

This week just 3 though.

Moss will have those ears pinned back and come out firing.

[Master___Pain]

Dont know what your talking about sunny boy.

English mother****er! Do you speak it?

[CasinoRoyal]

English mother****er! Do you speak it?

Get laid.......

Anbody who worries about spell checking a ****ing NFL forum cant have anything better on his mind.

So yeah go get laid.....Stop abusing Palmer....

[BigPlayShay]

Harris does the same thing and he's playing at a high level during his fast. Hamza was needed last Sunday and it would've been a cleaner win with him on the field.

Harris tried to do fast last year but quit. He has never done it and last year was the first time he had tried it thanks to Hamza talking him into it. He takes part in other rituals. Hamza is also modifying his fasting this year:

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_10375580

Muslim Broncos adapt to Ramadan

By Mike Klis
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 09/03/2008 11:46:19 PM MDT

Surely, God understands this is Raiders Week.

Broncos players and devout Muslims' Ryan Harris and Hamza Abdullah will honor the Ramadan season this month without participating in their usual 30-day fast.

"There are sacrificial alternatives," Abdullah, a safety, said. "Of course fasting is No. 1. You'd like to fast, but we don't do it to bring hardship to yourself or your health. You can substitute fasting with feeding the needy, helping out the homeless, things like that."

Harris is the Broncos' starting right tackle, a position that will require all his strength and energy if he is to keep the likes of Raiders' defensive end Derrick Burgess off quarterback Jay Cutler in the Monday night season opener in Oakland's Black Hole.

People of the Muslim faith fast from sunup to sundown and though large meals are often devoured after dark, it doesn't compensate for the bouts of draining weakness the body experiences during working hours. Harris is participating in other Ramadan rituals, like saying five prayers a day, but because he is in a career where his body is his temple, he can't afford to fast from 6:30 a.m., today's sunrise, to today's sunset at 7:25 p.m.

Had Harris insisted on the fast, he would have had the blessing of Broncos coach Mike Shanahan.

"I grew up Catholic and I have a lot of Jewish friends," Shanahan said. "You respect other people's beliefs. Hamza came to me last year and I said, 'Hey, you do what you believe in. But then I said, 'When it gets dark, I'll have some food for you.' "

Abdullah did go through the full Ramadan fast last season, but decided to modify it this year. He suffered a torn hip flexor about halfway through Ramadan last season, and while he doesn't believe the injury was related to fasting, "I'm sure it didn't help," he said. "I want to be smart about it this year, I don't want to take any risks.

"On light days, days off, I'll fast. So I got to fast the last two days but today, because it's a big work day, I consulted with my father and a few higher members, and they agreed I should eat something."

[MileHighMagic]

Moss pisses me off. He talks like he is on his way to being an all-pro but hasn't done ANYTHING and hasn't shown signs of doing anything! Eight sacks my ass. If he even sniffs eight sacks, I will buy his authentic jersey and write the bum a letter of apology. I guarantee he is just lazy and felt he "made it" when he signed that 1st rd contract. I mean, if I were a first rd pick and could not even crack our sh!tty starting d-lineup, let alone get on the active roster, I would be so pissed off I couldn't see straight!

[Los Broncos]

No one says to have grammar like a professor just don't make our eyes hurt.

[TheReverend]

Harris tried to do fast last year but quit. He has never done it and last year was the first time he had tried it thanks to Hamza talking him into it. He takes part in other rituals. Hamza is also modifying his fasting this year:

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_10375580

Muslim Broncos adapt to Ramadan

By Mike Klis
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 09/03/2008 11:46:19 PM MDT

Surely, God understands this is Raiders Week.

Broncos players and devout Muslims' Ryan Harris and Hamza Abdullah will honor the Ramadan season this month without participating in their usual 30-day fast.

"There are sacrificial alternatives," Abdullah, a safety, said. "Of course fasting is No. 1. You'd like to fast, but we don't do it to bring hardship to yourself or your health. You can substitute fasting with feeding the needy, helping out the homeless, things like that."

Harris is the Broncos' starting right tackle, a position that will require all his strength and energy if he is to keep the likes of Raiders' defensive end Derrick Burgess off quarterback Jay Cutler in the Monday night season opener in Oakland's Black Hole.

People of the Muslim faith fast from sunup to sundown and though large meals are often devoured after dark, it doesn't compensate for the bouts of draining weakness the body experiences during working hours. Harris is participating in other Ramadan rituals, like saying five prayers a day, but because he is in a career where his body is his temple, he can't afford to fast from 6:30 a.m., today's sunrise, to today's sunset at 7:25 p.m.

Had Harris insisted on the fast, he would have had the blessing of Broncos coach Mike Shanahan.

"I grew up Catholic and I have a lot of Jewish friends," Shanahan said. "You respect other people's beliefs. Hamza came to me last year and I said, 'Hey, you do what you believe in. But then I said, 'When it gets dark, I'll have some food for you.' "

Abdullah did go through the full Ramadan fast last season, but decided to modify it this year. He suffered a torn hip flexor about halfway through Ramadan last season, and while he doesn't believe the injury was related to fasting, "I'm sure it didn't help," he said. "I want to be smart about it this year, I don't want to take any risks.

"On light days, days off, I'll fast. So I got to fast the last two days but today, because it's a big work day, I consulted with my father and a few higher members, and they agreed I should eat something."

Hadn't read that! Thanks for clearing it up.

[CasinoRoyal]

Moss pisses me off. He talks like he is on his way to being an all-pro but hasn't done ANYTHING and hasn't shown signs of doing anything! Eight sacks my ass. If he even sniffs eight sacks, I will buy his authentic jersey and write the bum a letter of apology. I guarantee he is just lazy and felt he "made it" when he signed that 1st rd contract. I mean, if I were a first rd pick and could not even crack our sh!tty starting d-lineup, let alone get on the active roster, I would be so pissed off I couldn't see straight!

You do realize he has 7 games of experience and is coming off season ending surgery dont you???

You oughtta sit in the corner and pipe down for a while.

[Houshyamama]

Dont know what your talking about sunny boy.

sonny boy?

[cutthemdown]

wow this is surprisng

He goes from not even being activated to being a starter?
Our dline is such a joke right now

He needs to show something, cmon Moss put your money where your mouth is

BTW whose spot is he taking?
Dooms?

Hopefully it was just a shanny mind game to fire Moss up and show him he has to study and work harder.

[Rock Chalk]

Wow, holy ****, I just got that. I seriously thought that was a reference to the 3.14 pi (as in: Karl Paymah surrenders a never ending number of completions) and not the pass interference pi.

I actually think I like my interpretation better.

Why do you like your interpretation better? What does pi have to do with Paymah other than Pass Interference? Seriously, check the box scores of every game he is ever in, you will see at LEAST one PI call on his ass every game.

[Rock Chalk]

English mother****er! Do you speak it?

Dude that cockmunch is on ignore by so many people its best to not ever quote him.

[theAPAOps5]

Just post it when you see him post. 9 times out of 10 it will be accurate.

[broncosteven]

Dude that cockmunch is on ignore by so many people its best to not ever quote him.

Ok you convinced me, It was easier than I thought!

[Rock Chalk]

I technically wasnt trying to convince people to ignore him. Just to not quote him since I have him on ignore.

[CasinoRoyal]

Lmao

[brncs_fan]

I pretty much gave up on Moss after watching him get eaten alive by third string OT's in the preseason.

File me under the believe it when I see it tab.

[TallyBronco]

I technically wasnt trying to convince people to ignore him. Just to not quote him since I have him on ignore.

Thanks for the reminder, he's going on ignore today.

Of course a lot of people were annoying when they were on cusp of puberty and lacked all self-control. But I don't like baby-sitting here.

[jsco70]

Shanahan is treating Moss like a windup toy. He purposely benched him for two games to let him seeth on the bench. Jarvis gets his chance to unwind on Sunday. If he responds to the challenge and plays well, he'll probably move into the starting lineup. If doesn't show up, Moss will end up in the doghouse similar to Mike Bell. It will be interesting to watch.

[lex]

Those were just game reps he needed to get back in game time shape.

Hopefully hes been working on his moves.

3 sacks is how i see it.

You dont too bad but i hope im right because if i am........Well it helps the Broncos.


Well, 9 sacks is how I see it. You see 3 too bad...obviously Id like him to help the Broncos more than you.

[Florida_Bronco]

Thanks for the reminder, he's going on ignore today.

Of course a lot of people were annoying when they were on cusp of puberty and lacked all self-control. But I don't like baby-sitting here.

I put him on ignore a few days ago. Definetly cleared up some of the clutter.

[CasinoRoyal]

Well, 9 sacks is how I see it. You see 3 too bad...obviously Id like him to help the Broncos more than you.

How may of there Olinemen will have to drop for him to get 9?

[bowtown]

How do you know this?
People keep saying we could of had Nelson but what evidence do you have?

The reason Jax let us trade up was because it was understood we wouldnt take Nelson. If we would of told Jax that and went ahead and drafted Nelson no one would ever trade with us again.

So no we realistically never had a shot at Nelson.
I dont like Moss, but the Nelson argument holds no water.

THANK YOU... PLEASE, PLEASE STOP. This is one of my biggest pet peevs. Jax had Nelson targetted. They would NEVER have traded with us if we were planning to take Nelson. We NEVER had a shot at Nelson. People need to stop pretending that we did. PLEASE.

[CasinoRoyal]

Yeah that makes sense.

You cant go against your word with your trading partner or nobody will work with you anymore.

[TheReverend]

Why do you like your interpretation better? What does pi have to do with Paymah other than Pass Interference? Seriously, check the box scores of every game he is ever in, you will see at LEAST one PI call on his ass every game.

Because even the worlds greatest super computer couldn't string out the full number of how many completions he'll allow when he's on the field. Duh.

[fontaine]

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/sep/17/broncos-play-defensive-end-moss-vs-saints/

It's about time.

ENGLEWOOD — The Broncos are done saying, “No Moss.”

When the team plays host to the New Orleans Saints on Sunday, former No. 1 draft pick Jarvis Moss is expected to make his 2008 debut after two weeks of being declared inactive as a healthy scratch.

“I’m going to get myself ready this week and practice like I’ve never practiced and watch film like I’ve never watched film,” Moss said Wednesday.

Wasn't this the problem in the first place?

If you practice like you've never practiced then wouldn't it be like never practicing?

:sickortir

[CasinoRoyal]

^^^figure of speech.......

[SoonerBronco]

You do realize he has 7 games of experience and is coming off season ending surgery dont you???

You oughtta sit in the corner and pipe down for a while.

plenty of guys have that much experience and plenty more have brought more than Moss has in those 7 games...

you are fast approaching Boob for the "biggest douche on the board" list....

[Punisher]

Glad to see his ass back in the line up

[CasinoRoyal]

plenty of guys have that much experience and plenty more have brought more than Moss has in those 7 games...

you are fast approaching Boob for the "biggest douche on the board" list....

Yeah yeah yeah heard it all before.

FSU Noles.

[Punisher]

Originally Posted by SoonerBronco http://orangemane.com/BB/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2092062#post2092062)
plenty of guys have that much experience and plenty more have brought more than Moss has in those 7 games...

you are fast approaching Boob for the "biggest douche on the board" list....


LMAO! Naa i have to say i kind of like this Casino guy,i might even let him have sex with my moms face :)

[DBroncos4life]

2 sacks this week book it.

[CasinoRoyal]

LMAO! Naa i have to say i kind of like this Casino guy,i might even let him have sex with my moms face :)

Where is she?

[Punisher]

Where is she?

In your local bar Ha!

[CasinoRoyal]

Been there done that then. Ah Haa

[c_lazy_r]

LMAO! Naa i have to say i kind of like this Casino guy,i might even let him have sex with my moms face :)




He could lose his virginity with your mom...does that make you and Casino related somehow?

[Tombstone RJ]

No one says you have to have grammar like a professor, just don't make our eyes hurt.

Fixed it for you.:wiggle:

[Punisher]

He could lose his virginity with your mom...does that make you and Casino related somehow?

LMAO! Joke of the day :rofl: or is it really a joke....

[Los Broncos]

Fixed it for you.:wiggle:

Thanks for the comma, rep to you sir.

[SoonerBronco]

Yeah yeah yeah heard it all before.

FSU Noles.


FSU Noles...

Funny thing about the noles...I know Ben Panter, the guy who snapped the punt out of the end zone for OU scoring FSU's only pts in the 2000 Orange Bowl...

The only thing good about the Noles the last few years is Jenn Sterger...

[Dr. Broncenstein]

I hope he can stay in his big girl panties for the rest of the year. When you are inactive on this d-line, that's really saying something.

[scttgrd]

Could we plaese, for the love of the Broncos STOP quoting the casinorash. Please!?!

[Bronx33]

Could we plaese, for the love of the Broncos STOP quoting the casinorash. Please!?!


Casinorash ROFL! ohhhhhhh **** i quoted your quote about Casinorash ( we cool ?)

[CasinoRoyal]

Could we plaese, for the love of the Broncos STOP quoting the casinorash. Please!?!

Vote for some p***Y.........

Go get laid clown.

[azbroncfan]

Vote for some p***Y.........

Go get laid clown.

This casion dude is hard to listen to and brings nothing but lack of football knowlege but then again the IGNORE feature is for weak minded people.

[CasinoRoyal]

This casion dude is hard to listen to and brings nothing but lack of football knowlege but then again the IGNORE feature is for weak minded people.

Kleenex anyone???

[scttgrd]

This casion dude is hard to listen to and brings nothing but lack of football knowlege but then again the IGNORE feature is for weak minded people.

Ignore is a way to keep idiots out of the gene pool here, but keep letting them in and hide your daughters.

[azbroncfan]

Besides we cant afford to not have all our pass rushers available for gameday....

Sitting there watching elgelberger and ekuban and them and dumervil get no pressure.......Can Moss even be any worst?

Yes because if he can't beat any of them out he must completely suck. You still sticking to your 15 sack prediction?

[CasinoRoyal]

Yes because if he can't beat any of them out he must completely suck. You still sticking to your 15 sack prediction?

Yeah 15 sacks.

3 this week.

[brncs_fan]

I'll predict a .5 tackle and a pressure.

[azbroncfan]

Yeah 15 sacks.

3 this week.

He will be lucky to play 3 plays this week.

[Broncos_OTM]

i was pumped to get moss. not so much now

[Bladerunner]

Well, 9 sacks is how I see it. You see 3 too bad...obviously Id like him to help the Broncos more than you.

why not 6 minute abs?

[Los Broncos]

Here's your man Royal...

[brncs_fan]

Moss recorded as many tackles and sacks as our center. Both had 1 tackle and 0 sacks.

[doonwise]

Moss recorded as many tackles and sacks as our center. Both had 1 tackle and 0 sacks.

:rofl:: great way to look at it!

I am, however, crying on the inside. I wish this guy was hamstringing someone else's salary cap.

[theAPAOps5]

Wow this Moss is pathetic. I expect him to be back on the inactive list. He should be cut at years end.

[2KBack]

Wow this Moss is pathetic. I expect him to be back on the inactive list. He should be cut at years end.

He got roughly the same amount of pressure that Dumervil did, and identical stats, in his first real game in almost a year....but don't let me keep you from jumping to conclusions.

[CasinoRoyal]

Oh yeah cut a guy whose played 8 games.

Apa your a dumb ****

[Broncos_OTM]

Oh yeah cut a guy whose played 8 games.

Apa your a dumb ****

im still laughing my ass of you predicted 3-4 sacks .. granted i like moss but even i know that was just lame

[Inkana7]

He had at least one good pressure that I saw in limited playing time. I didn't see him on the field much. I don't even think he played in the first half.

[theAPAOps5]

im still laughing my ass of you predicted 3-4 sacks .. granted i like moss but even i know that was just lame

A lot of us have this dumb **** on ignore so please don't quote him.

[theAPAOps5]

I was being a smart ass about cutting him, come on people. He gets a year to get on track as this is his rookie year essentially.

But don't give me the line about getting as much pressure as Dumervil. Dumervil has a broken pinky and is in a cast. Whats Moss' excuse?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

He had at least one good pressure that I saw in limited playing time. I didn't see him on the field much. I don't even think he played in the first half.

He played, had some decent push and turned a couple running plays back inside.

[watermock]

I forgot I had put casio on ignore before the site went down. heh. Even Slappy didn't manage that.

[Br0nc0Buster]

I was being a smart ass about cutting him, come on people. He gets a year to get on track as this is his rookie year essentially.

But don't give me the line about getting as much pressure as Dumervil. Dumervil has a broken pinky and is in a cast. Whats Moss' excuse?

His excuse is that he sucks and apparently is fine with being a backup

[theAPAOps5]

His excuse is that he sucks and apparently is fine with being a backup

Yeah they asked him how he played on Sunday. He said he played good! :spit:

[MVP-06]

He lit that guy up on the last play of the game, lol

[Ironlung]

This guy makes bank for not doing anything. Whats he make? 3, 4, times what BMarsh makes? Moss should be payin Denver.

[SoDak Bronco]

he is a pretty young dude..I don't think everyone should be giving up on him...people were saying the same thing about harris now they are lickin his balls.

[theAPAOps5]

he is a pretty young dude..I don't think everyone should be giving up on him...people were saying the same thing about harris now they are lickin his balls.

Too True! I think he gets at least another year. Heck even Trevor Pryce was looking like a bust his rookie year and he put together some nice years.

[SoCalBronco]

He got roughly the same amount of pressure that Dumervil did, and identical stats, in his first real game in almost a year....but don't let me keep you from jumping to conclusions.

I wasn't aware that Jarvis had pins in his fingers.

[CasinoRoyal]

he is a pretty young dude..I don't think everyone should be giving up on him...people were saying the same thing about harris now they are lickin his balls.

Exactly just a month ago these clueless idiots said cut Harris and how he was trash now there on his jock.

Apa is a ****ing idiot who is always wrong.

Apa still recruiting ignorers...This guy doesnt go a day without saying **People have casino onignore** LMAO clowns man i tell ya

[CasinoRoyal]

I wasn't aware that Jarvis had pins in his fingers.

The hell does that matter? hes playin in 8 games :rofl:

[theAPAOps5]

Ah I see dumb **** has posted again. Let me guess he attacks me because I called out his pathetic football knowledge and takes?

Am I right?

[Florida_Bronco]

Ah I see dumb **** has posted again. Let me guess he attacks me because I called out his pathetic football knowledge and takes?

Am I right?

I'd tell you, but I have him on ignore too.

[theAPAOps5]

Me too but the guy is the biggest joke among the Bronco boards. You should see what people say about his pathetic illiterate ass.

[SoCalBronco]

The hell does that matter? hes playin in 8 games :rofl:

http://www.thedeets.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/millionaire_idiot_fail.jpg

[CasinoRoyal]

http://www.thedeets.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/millionaire_idiot_fail.jpg

Wrap your lips around a beef jerky stick. Clown.

Your a ****ing Hurricane fan so i dont like your ass anyway

[theAPAOps5]

Hmmm Dumb **** must really be feeling the heat.

[ZONA]

Stop argueing like little bichiz for god sake.

I didn't see alot of Moss. Certainly did not hear his name called during the game. Doesn't matter, he's got a long long long way to go to be an impact player. We need alot more talent on this side of the ball. If we had a D coord worth a **** it might help some but when you add poor talent on the D line, and at safety, plus a ****ty D coord, bad things are gonna happen.

[theAPAOps5]

Moss actually had some pressure. He just needs to learn other moves. He and Dumervil got washed outside the pocket on Sunday. Once he learns to mix it up I think he can be good. But he has to learn it and that may be where the problem lies.

[2KBack]

I was being a smart ass about cutting him, come on people. He gets a year to get on track as this is his rookie year essentially.

But don't give me the line about getting as much pressure as Dumervil. Dumervil has a broken pinky and is in a cast. Whats Moss' excuse?

no excuse, it's just that he hasn't played much. He is 100% the least experienced Dlineman we have, the fact that he looks like Dumervil with an injured finger is pretty encouraging to me. That means maybe he'll start putting together a couple games here and there as he develops. He could have looked like Crowder who has completely dissapeared since like week 3 of last year.

[Florida_Bronco]

Me too but the guy is the biggest joke among the Bronco boards. You should see what people say about his pathetic illiterate ass.

Yeah I've seen what some of the posters from that other forum said about him. Guy needs a seriously reality check (and some english lessons).

[CasinoRoyal]

Yeah I've seen what some of the posters from that other forum said about him. Guy needs a seriously reality check (and some english lessons).

Ask those same people how they dogged the owner of broncosfreak LMAO.

Who they said was a friend and all that other bullshyt.

ALl you clowns are friends untill put in a tough situation just like that. Look what happened you ****ing idiot.:rofl:

Numerous gatherings and fun times and then they all turned there backs on him and trashed his name and his site.

Your a ****ing clown if you believe those clowns. Go sit in the corner somewhere female

[Florida_Bronco]

I'm tempted to click "view post" but I'm not in the mood to punish myself tonight.

[broncosteven]

I'm tempted to click "view post" but I'm not in the mood to punish myself tonight.

I am totally loving the Ignore feature.

[lex]

no excuse, it's just that he hasn't played much. He is 100% the least experienced Dlineman we have, the fact that he looks like Dumervil with an injured finger is pretty encouraging to me. That means maybe he'll start putting together a couple games here and there as he develops. He could have looked like Crowder who has completely dissapeared since like week 3 of last year.

I was pleased with what I saw as well...but I can totally see this being the high water mark for a while too. The guy needs to get apply himself all the time. Hopefully he is doing so. I have a feeling we've seen the best Doom has, which isnt horrible (at least not to this year)...but if Moss can get it going, he could be the life raft to our season.

[Bronx33]

I'm tempted to click "view post" but I'm not in the mood to punish myself tonight.


This is all you need to know: LOL

Your a ****ing clown if you believe those clowns. Go sit in the corner somewhere female

[theAPAOps5]

I am totally loving the Ignore feature.

Isn't it glorious! The best part is you can totally bait the tard and not have to read his replies.

[Florida_Bronco]

Isn't it glorious! The best part is you can totally bait the tard and not have to read his replies.

:spit:

[Rock Chalk]

Isn't it glorious! The best part is you can totally bait the tard and not have to read his replies.

Wow I thought I was the only one that did that.

[Florida_Bronco]

Wow I thought I was the only one that did that.

I'd venture a guess that the overwhelming majority of this board has him on ignore.

[theAPAOps5]

I'd venture a guess that the overwhelming majority of this board has him on ignore.

I think he means ignore baiting. I do it all the time with Bob. I know Kaylor does it too. Sometimes I take a peak at what they say just to make sure I am hookin them!

[Sodak]

Who are you guys talking about? Do I need to add another?

[theAPAOps5]

Who are you guys talking about? Do I need to add another?

Casino Royal. Worst thing that has ever happend to the Mane. Just look up his name and click put on ignore. Don't question just do it. The guy has been perma banned from 3 bronco sites.

[sixtimeseight]

So does anybody actually not have him on ignore? Seriously, I'd like to know.

[theAPAOps5]

Well you have me on ignore so you won't see this but I actually do have him on ignore. I just post when I see him post.

[lex]

So does anybody actually not have him on ignore? Seriously, I'd like to know.
I dont have him on ignore.

[Florida_Bronco]

Casino Royal. Worst thing that has ever happend to the Mane. Just look up his name and click put on ignore. Don't question just do it. The guy has been perma banned from 3 bronco sites.

I wouldn't give him that much credit. He's just slightly annoying. We've had way worse posters before.

[brncs_fan]

I don't have him on ignore. The one and only poster to ever grace to get that feature on them was that usedupbraids character.

[CasinoRoyal]

sixtimeseight is a coward, This guy put me on ignore because i punished his ass in a debate.

http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2094870#post2094870

Look at him wiggle his coward ass outta being wrong lmao pages 4 and 5.

This clown is more of a joke than alec.

[CasinoRoyal]

Really ****ted on all of them with this thread lmao.

http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=71945&page=4

No responses at all. Punished into silence lol.

[Florida_Bronco]

Somewhere, a psychology student is making a case study out of this idiot's posts.

[CasinoRoyal]

Somewhere, a psychology student is making a case study out of this idiot's posts.

And you have a man in a suit who aint even a football player in your avy, Fruity pebbles.

[Florida_Bronco]

Have you never seen Tombstone? Or do you prefer masterpieces such as Friday and Malibu's Most Wanted?

[CasinoRoyal]

Please none of that shyt you jsut mentioned is worth anything. Tombstone was an okay movie and not a masterpiece, Thats like me going out and getting a Johnny Travolta t shirt or something :spit: :laugh:

Get outta here fruit.

But do your thing playa playa. Its your world..........:pimp: :thumbsup: Ah haa!

[Florida_Bronco]

Well it's settled. Not only are you an idiot, but your taste in movies sucks as well.

[lex]

Please none of that shyt you jsut mentioned is worth anything. Tombstone was an okay movie and not a masterpiece, Thats like me going out and getting a Johnny Travolta t shirt or something :spit: :laugh:

Get outta here fruit.

But do your thing playa playa. Its your world..........:pimp: :thumbsup: Ah haa!

...so just chill...til the next episode.

[Rock Chalk]

...so just chill...til the next episode.

WTF is wrong with you? Everyone has that douche on ignore and you are still quoting him?

Have some respect for your fellow posters.

[lex]

WTF is wrong with you? Everyone has that douche on ignore and you are still quoting him?

Have some respect for your fellow posters.

Oh, the irony.

[Rock Chalk]

Oh, the irony.

August 2007.

October 2001.

I deserve to be a jaded prick. Ive been here long enough to have been turned into one.

[CasinoRoyal]

Im still amazed Alec is still running around begging for people to ignore me lmao.

What a pussy.

[Florida_Bronco]

Me and Alec have had our share of disagreements, but if you were a 1/10th of the poster he was, you'd still be ****ing worthless.

Just so you know.

[CasinoRoyal]

Me and Alec have had our share of disagreements, but if you were a 1/10th of the poster he was, you'd still be ****ing worthless.

Just so you know.

you fear me

[Florida_Bronco]

The only thing I fear about you is the very slight chance that you'll breed.

[Pat Bowlen]

I wouldn't worry too much about that. I hear sperm banks are pretty selective these days.

[Florida_Bronco]

I wouldn't worry too much about that. I hear sperm banks are pretty selective these days.

Good point.

[CasinoRoyal]

The only thing I fear about you is the very slight chance that you'll breed.

Yeah i got 14 kids. Im stamped on this earth for a while.