Another gung ho cop

[Rigs11]

This is sickening.Wonder if they will outlaw labs for being so vicious.

Family to hold rally after cop kills yellow Lab

A family whose dog got loose and was shot to death by a Denver police officer is planning to go around its neighborhood today to raise awareness about what can happen if pets get loose — and raise cash for a possible lawsuit against the city.

On Monday, Rocky, a 3-year-old male yellow labrador retriever, was killed by an officer, after he was reported as a vicious dog, even though he had not hurt anyone.

"I think the cops got careless," said Rocky's owner, Joe Drayer, 26. "They mishandled it. I think the Denver cops' slogan is: Shoot first, ask questions later. He's not a vicious dog."

Shortly before 4 p.m. Monday, Denver police and animal control were notified about a vicious dog in the area near West 40th Avenue and Navajo Street.

"When our officer arrived on scene, he was flagged down by a citizen who related to him there was a vicious dog in the area and gave a description and direction in which the dog ran off in," said Sharon Hahn, spokeswoman for Denver police.

"When the officer found the dog and went to approach the dog, he turned on the officer, and the officer felt his life was threatened, so he shot the dog," said Hahn.

Hahn said the officer fired his weapon twice, with the dog running off to a nearby yard where he died.

Drayer said he was working outside of his home, in the 1700 block of West 40th Avenue, when his mother, Sally Sutherburg, 46, asked him where the dogs were.

Unbeknownst to him, Rocky and Angel, a 6-month-old female Chihuahua/teacup poodle mix, had slipped out from the backyard and went through the open garage door.

Drayer and Sutherburg decided to go look for them, heading in different directions.

"I went to the back alley and I was going on 40th, when I heard gunshots," said Drayer.

"As I walk past 40th, I see a lot of cops and I ask what happened, and they said that a dog had been shot. I instantly think that I was looking for my dog, so I told them, 'I think you shot my dog' and they told me to get back."

He also asked if anyone was hurt, and that a police officer told him 'no" and added, "Aren't you glad he didn't hurt anybody?' "

"That's why we wanted to know why he was shot," said Drayer. "He was a friendly, loving family dog.

Both he and his mother had heard from neighbors that it was a woman who was walking her dog in the area who had called police after Angel and Rocky approached her.

"Angel approached her dog, and Rocky started barking," said Sutherburg. "She felt threatened by the dogs, so she called the police, and not animal control."

Police were unable to provide details Thursday on what prompted the call, but Hahn said that animal control officers had also responded but that Denver police got to the scene first.

"It's a very unfortunate and tragic situation when a dog gets shot," said Hahn. "But when it shows aggressive behavior toward an officer, the officer had to fire his weapon."

However, a neighbor who witnessed the shooting disputed the police account of what happened.

Serferino Quintana, 60, who lives on Navajo Street, north of West 40th Avenue, said he saw the two dogs playing in front of his yard before they headed north on Navajo Street. "There was a red dog chasing a small white dog," he said.

But later, while he was in the backyard and looking east, he saw one of the dogs - the large red one — run west on West 40th Avenue, with a police officer behind him.

"He was chasing the dog and the dog was running from him," said Quintana. "The police had his gun out, pointing at him, while he was running. He (the dog) was being chased. The cop was chasing him and shot him."

Quintana said he never saw the dog stop and turn on the officer as police claimed, instead the dog was running south into a side yard of a home along West 40th Avenue, between Lipan and Mariposa streets, when it got shot.

"Bam, bam — that was it," he said. "He (the dog) was running for his life. The cop was right behind him, and I didn't hear the dog barking. He didn't even bark when he got hit."

Quintana said he lost sight of the dog, after it was shot, but it had managed to get farther into the yard where there were trucks parked.

"He didn't get very far from where he was shot," he said.

"I don't think it should have happened," he said of the shooting. "They could have used other means to get the dog. I don't think the dog bit anybody. There was no report of that. He didn't attack anybody."

Drayer said that he and the rest of the family picked up Rocky's body from Denver Animal Control on Thursday and had it cremated.

Angel apparently disappeared for a day and half after the incident. She was found Tuesday morning near Smedley Elementary School, about a block and half away from home.

The family said it has tried to contact the police to get a copy of the report on what happened, but have been rebuffed.

Drayer said Rocky was a stay-at-home dog, and probably ran after Angel, who had a habit of slipping through the fence to the backyard and getting out.

"Rocky does have a big bark, but he's scared of squirrels," said Drayer. "They get into the house and into his food, and he runs off."

He also is cowed by the family's cat, Shaggy, a 7-year-old male orange tabby.

"The cat is like Garfield, and Rocky is like Odie (Garfield's dog companion) — that's how that dog was — a big, dumb Odie," said Sutherburg.

"He wouldn't do this," said Sutherburg. "That's why I want justice for the dog."

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/sep/11/dogs-owners-question-why-police-killed-rocky/

[theAPAOps5]

I just read this story. Pathetic and cops wonder why less and less people respect them. Another prick on a power trip.

[Rigs11]

and another..seriously what the hell is going on with these badged bastards?

Video shows police killing dog
Family considering legal action against police, highway patrol


COOKEVILLE, Tennessee (CNN) -- Police video released Wednesday showed a North Carolina family kneeling and handcuffed, who shrieked as officers killed their dog -- which appeared to be playfully wagging its tail -- with a shotgun during a traffic stop.

The Smoak family was pulled over the evening of January 1 on Interstate 40 in eastern Tennessee by officers who mistakenly suspected them of a carjacking. An investigation showed James Smoak had simply left his wallet on the roof of his car at a gas station, and motorists who saw his money fly off the car as he drove away called police.

The family was driving through eastern Tennessee on their way home from a New Year trip to Nashville. They told CNN they are in the process of retaining a lawyer and considering legal action against the Cookeville, Tennessee, Police Department and the Tennessee Highway Patrol for what happened to them and their dog.

In the video, released by the highway patrol, officers are heard ordering the family, one by one, to get out of their car with their hands up. James Smoak and his wife, Pamela, and 17-year-old son Brandon are ordered onto their knees and handcuffed.

"What did I do?" James Smoak asks the officers.

"Sir, inside information is that you was involved in some type of robbery in Davidson County," the unidentified officer says.

Smoak and his wife protest incredulously, telling the officers that they are from South Carolina and that their mother and father-in-law are traveling in another car near them.

The Smoaks told CNN that as they knelt, handcuffed, they pleaded with officers to close the doors of their car so their two dogs would not escape, but the officers did not heed them.

Pamela Smoak is seen on the tape looking up at an officer, telling him slowly, "That dog is not mean. He won't hurt you."

Her husband says, "I got a dog in the car. I don't want him to jump out."

The tape then shows the Smoaks' medium-size brown dog romping on the shoulder of the Interstate, its tail wagging. As the family yells, the dog, named Patton, first heads away from the road, then quickly circles back toward the family.

An officer in a blue uniform aims his shotgun at the dog and fires at its head, killing it immediately.

For several moments, all that is audible are shrieks as the family reacts to the shooting. James Smoak even stands up, but officers pull him back down.

"Y'all shot my dog! Y'all shot my dog!" James Smoak cries. "Oh my God! God Almighty!"

"You shot my dog!" screams his wife, distraught and still handcuffed. "Why'd you kill our dog?"

"Jesus, tell me, why did y'all shoot my dog?" James Smoak says.

The officers bring him to the patrol car, and the family calms down, but still they ask the officers for an explanation. One of them says Patton was "going after" the officer.

"No he wasn't, man," James Smoak says. "Y'all didn't have to kill the dog like that."

Brandon told CNN that Patton, was playful and gentle -- "like Scooby-Doo" -- and may have simply gone after the beam of the flashlight as he often did at home, when Brandon and the dog would play.

The Tennessee Department of Safety, which oversees the Highway Patrol, has said an investigation is underway.
'Could have been avoided'

Cookeville Police Chief Robert Terry released a statement on the department's Web site Wednesday night describing the department's regret over the incident. The Cookeville Police Department site was not responding Thursday morning.

"I know the officer wishes that circumstances could have been different so he could have prevented shooting the dog," Terry wrote. "It is never gratifying to have to put an animal down, especially a family pet, and the officer assures me that he never displayed any satisfaction in doing so."

Terry said he and the vice-mayor of Cookeville met with the family before they left "to convey our deepest sympathies" for the loss of their dog.

"No one wants to experience this kind of thing, and it's very unfortunate that it occurred," he wrote. "If we had the benefit of hindsight, I'm sure some -- if not all of this -- could have been avoided. I believe the Tennessee Highway Patrol feels the same way."

The department is conducting an investigation to determine what, if anything, could have been done differently, he said. Police also plan to be in contact with the Smoak family, Terry said.

The Smoaks buried their pet at home. A white cross marks the grave.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/09/police.kill.dog/

[Dudeskey]

No surprise that the Denver thug department is on the list...™

[cutthemdown]

what a joke police are becoming. I just read an article that says there were over 700 thousand citations or arrests for marijuana possession in the yr 2007. What a joke and a waste of money the Bush administrations war on marijuana has been. What a joke local police depts have become shooting peoples dogs and making horrid mistakes all over the place.

[Drek]

what a joke police are becoming. I just read an article that says there were over 700 thousand citations or arrests for marijuana possession in the yr 2007. What a joke and a waste of money the Bush administrations war on marijuana has been. What a joke local police depts have become shooting peoples dogs and making horrid mistakes all over the place.

And yet you support the political faction that has given them the right to practice near martial law and turned their focus on the general population and meaningless police action like the previously mentioned marijuana.

This to me is a pretty compelling reason to vote for Barack Obama. Someone who has said he'll go over the civil rights infringements within Bush's policies with a fine toothed comb and give us back the kinds of rights and protection from police harassment this country was built on.

[Bronco Bob]

Some big ass dog comes after me and I have a gun, I'm going to shoot the SOB too.
Screw waiting until it start gnawing on me before I do something about it.
I've heard of too many instances of people being severely maimed and
even killed by stray dogs that were supposed to be somebody's gentle pet.

[Florida_Bronco]

Some big ass dog comes after me and I have a gun, I'm going to shoot the SOB too.
Screw waiting until it start gnawing on me before I do something about it.
I've heard of too many instances of people being severely maimed and
even killed by stray dogs that were supposed to be somebody's gentle pet.

Agreed, at least as far as the first story is concerned. The 2nd story I think was bad judgement on the officer's part.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Agreed, at least as far as the first story is concerned. The 2nd story I think was bad judgement on the officer's part.You think? I think the bastard should be fired, charged with animal cruelty and sentenced to jail for a couple of years.

Some big ass dog comes after me and I have a gun, I'm going to shoot the SOB too.
Screw waiting until it start gnawing on me before I do something about it.
I've heard of too many instances of people being severely maimed and
even killed by stray dogs that were supposed to be somebody's gentle pet.I doubt it.


http://llnw.image.cbslocal.com/19/2008/09/14/320x240/policeshootdog.jpg
http://llnw.image.cbslocal.com/19/2008/09/14/320x240/policeshootdog.jpg

[Spider]

Some big ass dog comes after me and I have a gun, I'm going to shoot the SOB too.
Screw waiting until it start gnawing on me before I do something about it.
I've heard of too many instances of people being severely maimed and
even killed by stray dogs that were supposed to be somebody's gentle pet.

you can tell a vicious or non friendly dog off the bat , my brother used to train guard dogs , you can also tell a smart dog fro a dumb one ....... in the first story it was a yellow lab , one of the most trustworthy breeds there is ..... Now if the officer throws his knight stick .......

[TailgateNut]

Some big ass dog comes after me and I have a gun, I'm going to shoot the SOB too.
Screw waiting until it start gnawing on me before I do something about it.
I've heard of too many instances of people being severely maimed and
even killed by stray dogs that were supposed to be somebody's gentle pet.

The dog was running AWAY, not toward the COWARD IN UNIFORM!

[BABronco]

should have posted this in the ****ing pigs thread

[TailgateNut]

should have posted this in the ****ing pigs thread



"You can put lipstick on a pig.........";D
or is it: "you can put a uniform on a pig........."

[Florida_Bronco]

The dog was running AWAY, not toward the COWARD IN UNIFORM!

How do you know that?

[Garcia Bronco]

How do you know that?

they have video of it I believe. Either way the officer should have had animal control out there

[TailgateNut]

Eyewitness reports in the "fishrag and on local TV.

You gotta watch out for those attack labs. FYI, I was attacked by a full grown German Shepherd x-police dog, when I was 11YO and I lived (42 punture wounds, many still visible today), and no one had to kill the dog, and in that case it would have been justifiable. This "Lab from hell" was running away from Rambo when he was shot with Animal control en route.

It's the GOP of the DPD!

[Florida_Bronco]

they have video of it I believe. Either way the officer should have had animal control out there

They have video from the 2nd story, not the first (unless it's being reported somewhere else). Dunno how Denver does the police/animal control issue but if they get a call of a threatening dog around pedestrians it's not unlikely they will send police.

Eyewitness reports in the "fishrag and on local TV.

You gotta watch out for those attack labs. FYI, I was attacked by a full grown German Shepherd x-police dog, when I was 11YO and I lived (42 punture wounds, many still visible today), and no one had to kill the dog, and in that case it would have been justifiable. This "Lab from hell" was running away from Rambo when he was shot with Animal control en route.

It's the GOP of the DPD!

What eyewitness reports? The first story only lists one person who disputes the police account.

Sorry to hear you got attacked. I'm sure that was very traumatic at 11 years old.

[BroncoBuff]

It's a sad irony that most guys who want to be cops are the exact personality types who should not be cops.

[gyldenlove]

It's a sad irony that most guys who want to be cops are the exact personality types who should not be cops.

A-****ing-men!

[gyldenlove]

Some big ass dog comes after me and I have a gun, I'm going to shoot the SOB too.
Screw waiting until it start gnawing on me before I do something about it.
I've heard of too many instances of people being severely maimed and
even killed by stray dogs that were supposed to be somebody's gentle pet.

I think it is safe to say that dog wasn't jumping for the cop when it got shot. If the cop had a shotgun I could buy it, but with a pistol there is no way in hell that cop can get off 2 shots that will mortally wound the dog.

If reports are true that the cop chased the dog first, then I am guessing he cornered it somewhere and it balked at him when he approached and he shot it while it was standing still.

[Florida_Bronco]

I think it is safe to say that dog wasn't jumping for the cop when it got shot. If the cop had a shotgun I could buy it, but with a pistol there is no way in hell that cop can get off 2 shots that will mortally wound the dog.

What makes you say that?

[TailgateNut]

They have video from the 2nd story, not the first (unless it's being reported somewhere else). Dunno how Denver does the police/animal control issue but if they get a call of a threatening dog around pedestrians it's not unlikely they will send police.



The first story only lists one person who disputes the police account.

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So one person is not enough to dispute the officers version. How many eyewitnesses are required to offset the lies of the officer. Is it a 3-1 ratio, 10-1, when do we believe a witness who has nothing to gain, in lieu of an officer who is gun happy?

[Florida_Bronco]

So one person is not enough to dispute the officers version. How many eyewitnesses are required to offset the lies of the officer. Is it a 3-1 ratio, 10-1, when do we believe a witness who has nothing to gain, in lieu of an officer who is gun happy?

More than one, at least.

We have a police officer and Joe Citzen claiming seperate things. On that alone we have at best a "he said/she said" situation. Barring any proof coming out to support one side or the other, the officer is almost always going to get the benefit of the doubt.

But here is what we do know. Someone called in a complaint about the dog, which lead to the police being there. Obviously at least 2 people felt the dog was a threat.

[TailgateNut]

More than one, at least.

We have a police officer and Joe Citzen claiming seperate things. On that alone we have at best a "he said/she said" situation. Barring any proof coming out to support one side or the other, the officer is almost always going to get the benefit of the doubt.

But here is what we do know. Someone called in a complaint about the dog, which lead to the police being there. Obviously at least 2 people felt the dog was a threat.



So, you are calling "Joe citizen" a liar.


There are widely conflicting stories about Monday's police shooting of a yellow Labrador.

Denver police say someone flagged down Officer Michael Felsoci's a patrol car early Monday afternoon to report a vicious dog running through the grounds of Horace Mann School near West 42nd Avenue and Lipan Street.

Without releasing any details or an incident report, police spokeswoman Sharon Hahn would say only that the officer found the dog, that the dog attempted to attack the officer and that the officer shot it twice, killing it.

Originally, police said they had received three phone calls complaining about the dog.

Hahn said the police report filed in the incident wasn't available over the weekend.

Neighbor Seferino Quintana said the dog never attacked the officer. He said the dog was running away from the officer when he shot it from about 15 feet away.

"It was bad. That dog shouldn't have been shot," said Quintana, 68, a retired equipment operator at Denver International Airport who has lived in the neighborhood for about 40 years.

"There were two dogs playing together, running across the park from the school."


Just look at the conflicting info regarding the call vs the car being flagged down. DPD is full of ****, as always, they shoot first and then mold the story to protect the criminal in uniform.

...and if you give more weight to story the officer spews than you do to the story the "joe citizen" who has nothing to gain spews, then you would also be part of the problem if you are ever allowed to wear a uniform.

This BS (unjustifiable shootings) is happening more often than it should, and it will continue to escalate until heads start rolling, and officer are held accountable for their actions. They are not ABOVE the law.

[Florida_Bronco]

So, you are calling "Joe citizen" a liar. I never said that. He could be lying, mistaken, blind....etc...or he could be right. All I know about him is a couple words on paper.

Just look at the conflicting info regarding the call vs the car being flagged down. DPD is full of ****, as always, they shoot first and then mold the story to protect the criminal in uniform. Could it have not been both? Someone flagging down a patrol car doesn't mean that there wasn't also a 911 call. I guess we'll see though.

...and if you give more weight to story the officer spews than you do to the story the "joe citizen" who has nothing to gain spews, then you would also be part of the problem if you are ever allowed to wear a uniform. I don't think that is the case at all. When an officer and Joe Citzen say different things, any reasonable person is going to give the benefit of the doubt to the sworn, trained, and certified officer barring some evidence to the contrary. Even if you don't give the benefit of the doubt to the officer due to his job and training...you're still left with two people giving conflicting reports and (so far) no proof one way or another...except for the fact that someone else felt threatened by the dog.

This BS (unjustifiable shootings) is happening more often than it should, and it will continue to escalate until heads start rolling, and officer are held accountable for their actions. They are not ABOVE the law.

I don't want to get personal with this, but what your definition of "unjustifiable shootings" is usually not supported by the legal system's determinations.

[broncofan7]

Reading these stories really infuritates me..I have 3 dogs and they are basically my children. I could not even imgaine going on a family vacation, getting pulled over for no valid reason, then after instructing the cops to close my door so that my dogs won't get away, stand there powerless as the Police officers shoot them. I would be hard pressed not to retaliate in some form or fashion after I was released....I feel very badly for those poor people.

[cutthemdown]

FLA Broncos in another thread awhile back said he believes on avg police are more trustworthy then people in other professions. Because of that he will always believe the police officer. If he didn't feel that way he wouldn't have the right mind set of what they are looking for in an officer.

Your buddies in uniform are always innocent unless there is so much physical proof to the contrary that supporting them would look silly. You could have 10 people say I saw that cop put the gun on the dead victim, and if the cop swears he didn't then in the eyes of other cops he didn't.

If you show them a video proving it, then that's another story. But even with all the proven cases of dirty cops FLA will still say they are more trustworthy then the avg doctor, lawyer, teacher, bus driver, retail sales clerk or anyone that is black, white, brown, yellow that doesn't have a badge.

[cutthemdown]

Reading these stories really infuritates me..I have 3 dogs and they are basically my children. I could not even imgaine going on a family vacation, getting pulled over for no valid reason, then after instructing the cops to close my door so that my dogs won't get away, stand there powerless as the Police officers shoot them. I would be hard pressed not to retaliate in some form or fashion after I was released....I feel very badly for those poor people.

Basically most dogs are going to bark and be aggressive around strangers in uniform. Throw in that the owners who the dogs look to for leadership are being thrown on the ground, restrained and are obviously scared, and the animal is bound to bark and run around etc etc.

What i guess is the norm now is if for any reason you are dealing with police, and you have your dog, there is a good chance they will shoot it.

I'm this close to voting for Obama just because these right wingers need to be taught conservatism is about money, not running peoples lives and letting the police go crazy on our civil rights.

[Florida_Bronco]

FLA Broncos in another thread awhile back said he believes on avg police are more trustworthy then people in other professions. Because of that he will always believe the police officer. If he didn't feel that way he wouldn't have the right mind set of what they are looking for in an officer. Thats not really a stretch. A police officer's career is tied to honesty. Any officer who is documented as having lied in his career will forever have lost credibility and be torn to shreds on the witness stand because of it.

Your buddies in uniform are always innocent unless there is so much physical proof to the contrary that supporting them would look silly. You could have 10 people say I saw that cop put the gun on the dead victim, and if the cop swears he didn't then in the eyes of other cops he didn't.

Everyone is innocent until proven guilty, so this is technically correct. As for the 2nd sentence, its exactly the opposite of what I said just a few posts ago.

[gunns]

It's a sad irony that most guys who want to be cops are the exact personality types who should not be cops.

Like I've posted before, a guy we were interviewing for a job, who used to be a cop, and we asked him what that was like. He said you become a cop when you've failed at everything else in your life. Sorry Florida, not to generalize you.

But damn Florida, the cop used bad judgment???

[Florida_Bronco]

Like I've posted before, a guy we were interviewing for a job, who used to be a cop, and we asked him what that was like. He said you become a cop when you've failed at everything else in your life. Sorry Florida, not to generalize you. I'd like to talk to that guy and get his reasoning for that. Law enforcement is a tough job to get and more and more departments want college or military experience. Its not like you just show up one day and ask for a job.

But damn Florida, the cop used bad judgment??? Unless you feel he wanted to kill the dog? ???

[cutthemdown]

See Fla you prove my point. Just because a police officers job is tied to honesty doesn't make them inherently more honest. You could just as easily say because a policeman must not break the law, he might be more apt to lie about a broken law or excessive use of force. He is protecting his job. Simply saying yeah I beat him because I was angry that day won't get you a promotion. It will get you fired. So you say he was threatening me even if he wasn't.

There is no proof police are more honest then the avg profession.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

See Fla you prove my point. Just because a police officers job is tied to honesty doesn't make them inherently more honest. You could just as easily say because a policeman must not break the law, he might be more apt to lie about a broken law or excessive use of force. He is protecting his job. Simply saying yeah I beat him because I was angry that day won't get you a promotion. It will get you fired. So you say he was threatening me even if he wasn't.

There is no proof police are more honest then the avg profession.Unfortunately, many of the people who want to be cops today are the people watching the TV shows that glorify them. These people like the idea of having control over other peoples lives.

[TailgateNut]

Thats not really a stretch. A police officer's career is tied to honesty. Any officer who is documented as having lied in his career will forever have lost credibility and be torn to shreds on the witness stand because of it.



Everyone is innocent until proven guilty, so this is technically correct. As for the 2nd sentence, its exactly the opposite of what I said just a few posts ago.


That's total BS. At least in the Denver area, the cops get away with "murder", are put on temporary leave WITH PAY and then return to victimize the next poor soul who get in their way on a day when the woke up on the wrong side of the bed. The ONLY time they are dealt justice, is when someone has the foresight to tape the criminal in the act.

I'm sick of these bastards. Tired of having to fork over my tax dollars so some fat ass can shoot someone and get a free PAID vacation. IMO the majority of them are useless pieces of air sucking bile.

[Florida_Bronco]

That's total BS. At least in the Denver area, the cops get away with "murder", are put on temporary leave WITH PAY and then return to victimize the next poor soul who get in their way on a day when the woke up on the wrong side of the bed. The ONLY time they are dealt justice, is when someone has the foresight to tape the criminal in the act.

I'm sick of these bastards. Tired of having to fork over my tax dollars so some fat ass can shoot someone and get a free PAID vacation. IMO the majority of them are useless pieces of air sucking bile.

Of course. You're never had anything nice to say about the police. I have a feeling that if saw a cop help an old lady across the street you'd still find something to complain about.

Why do you have an issue with the paid leave? It's SOP in every department I've ever known for an officer involved in an on duty shooting to get paid leave or desk duty. This is done not only so the investigation can take place but for the psychological health of the officer.

[Rigs11]

More than one, at least.

We have a police officer and Joe Citzen claiming seperate things. On that alone we have at best a "he said/she said" situation. Barring any proof coming out to support one side or the other, the officer is almost always going to get the benefit of the doubt.

But here is what we do know. Someone called in a complaint about the dog, which lead to the police being there. Obviously at least 2 people felt the dog was a threat.

doesn't matter.

1. If the cop felt "threatened" as he says, he should have waited for animal control
2.Did he have to shoot it twice?One time wasn't sufficient?
3.It was a lab for christ's sake
4.This was near a school, an officer should not be firing his gun near kids, especially to deal with an "oh so vicious lab"

This cop deserves to be fired.

[Florida_Bronco]

doesn't matter.

1. If the cop felt "threatened" as he says, he should have waited for animal control Someone else called the cops/animal control too, so obviously someone else felt threated. Aren't the police there to "serve and protect" ??? If this dog chewed someone up while the cop waited for animal control, everyone would be up in arms over that too.

2.Did he have to shoot it twice?One time wasn't sufficient? It's called "double tapping" and is the way just about every officer is taught to shoot.

3.It was a lab for christ's sake Irrelevant.

4.This was near a school, an officer should not be firing his gun near kids, especially to deal with an "oh so vicious lab" Pretty short sighted. If the officer needs to use his weapon, he needs to use his weapon. The officer did hit his target, so he obviously felt he had a clean shot.

This cop deserves to be fired. Don't hold your breath for that. At most, he might get a demerit or a couple days desk duty.

[TailgateNut]

doesn't matter.

1. If the cop felt "threatened" as he says, he should have waited for animal control
2.Did he have to shoot it twice?One time wasn't sufficient?
3.It was a lab for christ's sake
4.This was near a school, an officer should not be firing his gun near kids, especially to deal with an "oh so vicious lab"

This cop deserves to be fired.


No need to try to get Fla to understand. He has tunnel vision when it comes to anything which involves a cop. In his world they do no wrong, even if someone has them on video breaking the law.

If I ever get involved in any type of traffic stop which involves a Denver officer (as a matter of fact Westminster and Thornton also have a bad rep), I will keep going until I get to a well lit area with plenty of witnesses nearby.

The public needs to demand that they clean house. As far as I'm concerned, if they are involved in a unjustifiable shooting they should be charged the same as you and I would be. Maybe then they would refrain from their trigger happy habits. ....and if they are shooting because they have wet their pants then they need to find a different line of work.

[TailgateNut]

Someone else called the cops/animal control too, so obviously someone else felt threated. Aren't the police there to "serve and protect" ??? If this dog chewed someone up while the cop waited for animal control, everyone would be up in arms over that too.

It's called "double tapping" and is the way just about every officer is taught to shoot.

Irrelevant.

Pretty short sighted. If the officer needs to use his weapon, he needs to use his weapon. The officer did hit his target, so he obviously felt he had a clean shot.

Don't hold your breath for that. At most, he might get a demerit or a couple days desk duty.


...or Paid Leave! No wonder they like to shoot at things (people and animals).

[Florida_Bronco]

...or Paid Leave! No wonder they like to shoot at things (people and animals).

I love how you get your panties all in a bunch over the paid leave issue.

[TailgateNut]

I love how you get your panties all in a bunch over the paid leave issue.


It is an issue which needs to be addressed. If someone were to loose their life on one of my projects due to my negligence (not blatant disregard) I would be held accountable and would face civil and criminal charges. These Rambo types on the other hand use no judgement and in many instances get away with "murder".

[Florida_Bronco]

It is an issue which needs to be addressed. If someone were to loose their life on one of my projects due to my negligence (not blatant disregard) I would be held accountable and would face civil and criminal charges. These Rambo types on the other hand use no judgement and in many instances get away with "murder".

That doesn't really address the paid leave issue, especially since the possibility of taking someone's life is part of being a cop.

[cutthemdown]

If we got rid of all the stupid drug laws then gangs wouldn't have the money for high end firearms and automatic weapons. It would make the police safer IMO.

[cutthemdown]

Every show on street gangs you see has the same theme. The drug money is used to by weapons. If they can't make money of drugs, they can't buy weapons.