Community Organizer - A story of success

[MO<1>]

Obama states that in college he couldn't even explain what a community organizer did, but you can follow his experience that he says qualifies him to bring change we need to America. This is a very well written piece by Byron York at the National Review and may help his supporters understand and be able to explain's Obama's success.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OWMxNGUxZWJjYzg1NjA0MTlmZDZmMjUwZGU3ZjAwNmU=&w=MQ==#more

But on the other hand, Obama seemed to realize that it was very, very hard to get anything done. “He didn’t see organizing making any significant changes in things,” Jerry Kellman recalled.

The solution, Obama felt, was to find a way to political power of his own.

“He was constantly thinking about his path to significance and power,” Mike Kruglik told me. “He said, ‘I need to go there [Harvard Law School] to find out more about power. How do powerful people think? What kind of networks do they have? How do they connect to each other?’”

In a few months, Obama was gone. He had been an organizer for three years.

[BroncoBuff]

And?

Dude, you're starting too many pointless, divisive threads. You don't like Obama. We get it.

[Bronco Bob]

So Obama didn't know what something was in college and this is supposed
to disqualify him.
But Palin doesn't even know what the Bush doctrine is, and she wants
to be one heartbeat away from being the president and commander in chief?

[MO<1>]

So Obama didn't know what something was in college and this is supposed
to disqualify him.
But Palin doesn't even know what the Bush doctrine is, and she wants
to be one heartbeat away from being the president and commander in chief?

Bob, please recite the Bush doctrine. You probably recognize that the story is pulled from Obama's first book, don't you? You probably also read the last paragraph in the story provided by the link? This is further evidence to independent minded voters why not to get in the line with parrots and those exhibiting the 15 second attention span.

[BroncoBuff]

You probably recognize that the story is pulled from Obama's first book, don't you? You probably also read the last paragraph in the story provided by the link? This is further evidence to independent minded voters why not to get in the line with parrots and those exhibiting the 15 second attention span.
I read both his books, and I recall the basic thrust of this .... but I think you're seeing something that's not there. He was frustrated at the progress being made in grass roots community activism, so he diligently sought out and pursued more powerful and effective means to bring about the kinds of change that would empower the middle and working classes. And he has been spectacularly successful doing so. So what's your beef?

[MO<1>]

I read both his books, and I recall the basic thrust of this .... but I think you're seeing something that's not there. He was frustrated at the progress being made in grass roots community activism, so he sought out more powerful and effective means to bring about the kinds of change that would empower the middle and working class. And he has been spectacularly successful. So what's your beef here?

Congratulatons on reading his books, then why the earlier agitated behavior? What success? He was successful at organizing, but not at completing anything of "spectacular" value. Since you are an Obama supporter, can you please list his top 3 accomplishments in your opinion. This will surely make me believe he is a better canidate for VP than Palin.

[Drek]

Congratulatons on reading his books, then why the earlier agitated behavior? What success? He was successful at organizing, but not at completing anything of "spectacular" value. Since you are an Obama supporter, can you please list his top 3 accomplishments in your opinion. This will surely make me believe he is a better canidate for VP than Palin.

1. The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006
is an act that requires the full disclosure of all entities or organizations receiving federal funds beginning in fiscal year (FY) 2007 on a website maintained by the Office of Management and Budget.

2. The bi-partisan Lugar-Obama Nuclear non-proliferation and conventional weapons threat act. Authored by U.S. Sens. Dick Lugar (R-IN) and Barack Obama (D-IL), the Lugar-Obama initiative expands U.S. cooperation to destroy conventional weapons. It also expands the State Department's ability to detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction.

3. The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, which many non-partisan groups hail as the "gold standard" of ethics reform.

He's done a lot more, but in those three you can see his true character. Promoting a transparent and honest government and also looking to protect America at every turn.

[Spider]

This is further evidence to independent minded voters why not to get in the line with parrots and those exhibiting the 15 second attention span.

LOL I bust a gut when you rattle off this bull**** ........ you talking about anyone being a parrot is like me laughing at someone for being a trucker

[NaptownChief]

I didn't know what a "community organizer" was either until the other day and I found out that it is just a term used as racial slander to belittle black men.

[Spider]

I didn't know what a "community organizer" was either until the other day and I found out that it is just a term used as racial slander to belittle black men.

Proof ?

[NaptownChief]

Proof ?



It is a joke over what Patterson's dumb arse said. Keep up.

[Mr.Meanie]

I'm not sure exactly why "community organizer" is being used as an epithet.

Obama pitched in to try to help out with his community before going off to Harvard Law...and he's being criticized for it? In what bizarro world is it bad to pitch in a hand to help out your community? Most people couldn't care less.

The common thinking seems to be:

"He helped 'organize his community' before going off to college - he's going to be a terrible president".

???

[TailgateNut]

I'm not sure exactly why "community organizer" is being used as an epithet.

Obama pitched in to try to help out with his community before going off to Harvard Law...and he's being criticized for it? In what bizarro world is it bad to pitch in a hand to help out your community? Most people couldn't care less.

The common thinking seems to be:

"He helped 'organize his community' before going off to college - he's going to be a terrible president".

???


For those who support the party of greed, it makes no sense to give without expecting a monetary return.

[Mr.Meanie]

Bob, please recite the Bush doctrine.

Did you seriously just call out someone to explain that? Are you trying to make the point that if the poster completely botches his explanation, then Palin can be excused for being absolutely clueless because she's only going to be VP, not actual President... or something? hmmm...

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Did you seriously just call out someone to explain that? Are you trying to make the point that if the poster completely botches his explanation, then Palin can be excused for being absolutely clueless because she's only going to be VP, not actual President... or something? hmmm...

:giggle:

[Smiling Assassin27]

I think anyone with half a brain knows that Obama is not qualified to be president. The truth hurts, but there it is. The question is whether McCain is qualified to be president. I'm not sold on that but at least he's in the conversation. Everyone is so desperate to slag Palin or react violently against Bush's term that the issue of qualification has been blotted from their mind completely. The statement, 'Obama is qualified to be President of the United States' is not rational.

[NaptownChief]

Obama pitched in to try to help out with his community before going off to Harvard Law...and he's being criticized for it? In what bizarro world is it bad to pitch in a hand to help out your community? Most people couldn't care less.





In the same bizzaro world where the liberals try to act like be a mayor and a governor is somehow a negative.

[Mr.Meanie]

I think most liberals view being mayor or governor as a positive actually. But when you're trumpeting being mayor of 5,000 people as being more "qualified" to be president than McCain, Biden or Obama... that's where the whole ::) comes in tbh

[TailgateNut]

I think anyone with half a brain knows that Obama is not qualified to be president. .


The people who have a "whole" brain, know he is qualified. The one's with a half think McCain is qualified.

Thank you!

[NaptownChief]

I think most liberals view being mayor or governor as a positive actually. But when you're trumpeting being mayor of 5,000 people as being more "qualified" to be president than McCain, Biden or Obama... that's where the whole ::) comes in tbh




There in lies your typical liberal twist. Conveniently keeping out governor. And yes being a mayor and a governor is more qualified than a first term senator.

That is just fine however, you liberals in your panic of Palin and continued mud slinging at her is working better than anyone could have ever expected. By doing so it keeps her pretty face on all the news stations and magazines and it has squashed the only thing Barak Hussein Osama had going for him and that is leading the way in hype.

[MO<1>]

Did you seriously just call out someone to explain that? Are you trying to make the point that if the poster completely botches his explanation, then Palin can be excused for being absolutely clueless because she's only going to be VP, not actual President... or something? hmmm...

Meanie, the Bush doctrine does not exist except in the minds of anti-Bush rhetoric, but leftists expect Palin to be able to quote their dogma. You highlighted the point that pro Obama supporters slam Palin without substance and then can't back it up. Is there a US State Department or DoD website that explains the Bush Doctrine as a "real" policy? NOT SO MUCH.

I do applaud Sen Obama for community involvement, but the arguement has been that it puts him above Palin. The fact is they both became involved in the community and public service to improve the quality of life for others. One actually had responsibility and made drastic changes improving the lives of common Americans. One sought more power after feeling that being organized did not produce and results.

[NaptownChief]

Community Organizer: Steve Urkel


http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/promos/politics/blog/13obama-bike.jpg





Govenor Palin:



http://www.palmerelks.org/images/wwp-photo2.jpg

[TailgateNut]

Community Organizer: Steve Urkel


http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/promos/politics/blog/13obama-bike.jpg





Govenor Palin:



http://www.palmerelks.org/images/wwp-photo2.jpg


That seals the deal for the dumbasses of the world.

[Mr.Meanie]

I do applaud Sen Obama for community involvement, but the arguement has been that it puts him above Palin.

The only people I've seen putting that argument out there has been the anti-Obama people

[Mr.Meanie]

Community Organizer: Steve Urkel


http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/promos/politics/blog/13obama-bike.jpg





Govenor Palin:



http://www.palmerelks.org/images/wwp-photo2.jpg



wow good one! ::)

[epicSocialism4tw]

The people who have a "whole" brain, know he is qualified. The one's with a half think McCain is qualified.

Thank you!

You just embarrassed every liberal on this site with that one.

[MO<1>]

The only people I've seen putting that argument out there has been the anti-Obama people

Part truth in your comment, validated mainly by the fact that Obama supporters don't understand his experience and quickly attack someone who started on the PTA, School Board, Mayor, and Govenor route rather than an organizer and lobbyist. Obama did public service organizing citizens to work withing their PTA, school boards, lobbying their elected officials, churches, and numerous other organizations during a 3 year period. He never supervised or led, and he never had enough "power" that comes with responsibility.

Those who don't know the issues don't have an arguement- maybe not even a direction.

[BroncoInferno]

Those who don't know the issues

Right. Tell us again how Obama was sworn into office on the Qu'ran.

[MO<1>]

Right. Tell us again how Obama was sworn into office on the Qu'ran.

Why do you keep making wildly off-base statements deflecting the truth? The article states Obama started going to church when he found out it added credibility when working with churches. Did you read his book? What does it say? If you keep perpetuating myth, how will truth be separated from lies? I'm sure you can provide better debate than linking Obama to terrorist fear- how about some truth?:wave:

[Rohirrim]

This is just more of the same slimeball politics from the Right. It's all they know. Imagine what Obama could have done? Do you know the options available to a young, black man coming out of Harvard with a JD as the president of the Harvard Law Review? First, if he chose, he could have had one of the plum jobs in the country: Supreme Court clerkship. Second, he could have picked any DA job in the country and started his political career off with a bang. Third, he could have picked any of the most prestigious law firms in the U.S. and started at a couple of hundred grand a year. What does he decide to do? Go stick up for unemployed steel workers in Chicago while teaching Constitutional law to students.

But here's the good part. McCain was at Columbia yesterday talking about how great service is and how important it is to dedicate a part of your life to your community, and blah, blah, blah. Welcome to the Republican Party: Where slimeball politics and hypocrisy rule.

[epicSocialism4tw]

This is just more of the same slimeball politics from the Right. It's all they know. Imagine what Obama could have done? Do you know the options available to a young, black man coming out of Harvard with a JD as the president of the Harvard Law Review? First, if he chose, he could have had one of the plum jobs in the country: Supreme Court clerkship. Second, he could have picked any DA job in the country and started his political career off with a bang. Third, he could have picked any of the most prestigious law firms in the U.S. and started at a couple of hundred grand a year. What does he decide to do? Go stick up for unemployed steel workers in Chicago while teaching Constitutional law to students.

But here's the good part. McCain was at Columbia yesterday talking about how great service is and how important it is to dedicate a part of your life to your community, and blah, blah, blah. Welcome to the Republican Party: Where slimeball politics and hypocrisy rule.

None of this makes any sense.

Are you saying that Obama has a monopoly on community service? What kind of garbage is that?

It is GOOD that this issue enters the public spotlight.

You have your priorities out of order. Party over country for you, eh?

[MO<1>]

QUOTE=Rohirrim;2080769]This is just more of the same slimeball politics from the Right. It's all they know. Imagine what Obama could have done? Do you know the options available to a young, black man coming out of Harvard with a JD as the president of the Harvard Law Review? First, if he chose, he could have had one of the plum jobs in the country: Supreme Court clerkship. Second, he could have picked any DA job in the country and started his political career off with a bang. Third, he could have picked any of the most prestigious law firms in the U.S. and started at a couple of hundred grand a year. What does he decide to do? Go stick up for unemployed steel workers in Chicago while teaching Constitutional law to students.

But here's the good part. McCain was at Columbia yesterday talking about how great service is and how important it is to dedicate a part of your life to your community, and blah, blah, blah. Welcome to the Republican Party: Where slimeball politics and hypocrisy rule.[/QUOTE]

Why the "race" card? Skin color does not make a difference.

Thanks for pointing out that McCain has devoted his entire life to public service, his wife is a community organizer and certified teacher. McCain also recognzied Obama's public service by offering him a position of Public Service Secretary in the McCain cabinet.

Now we can talk about hypocracy. I know that I should be on my way to the gym, but this board is addictive (help me HotRod!). There are just so many people blasting away with some "unique" ideas. I was on my way out the door, when someone said you brought up my banishment.

Since you threated me physically- which is a crime; would you PLEASE explain in detail the statement resulting in my banishment? IMO, I don't believe you are justified in slandering me without properly presenting ALL the facts. So please, try and tell the facts, since I don't hide behind the courage of alternate internet ego.

Really have to go. Have a joyous day and may you be blessed with inspiration and wisdom.:welcome:

[BroncoInferno]

Why the "race" card? Skin color does not make a difference.

Thanks for pointing out that McCain has devoted his entire life to public service, his wife is a community organizer and certified teacher. McCain also recognzied Obama's public service by offering him a position of Public Service Secretary in the McCain cabinet.

Now we can talk about hypocracy. I know that I should be on my way to the gym, but this board is addictive (help me HotRod!). There are just so many people blasting away with some "unique" ideas. I was on my way out the door, when someone said you brought up my banishment.

Since you threated me physically- which is a crime; would you PLEASE explain in detail the statement resulting in my banishment? IMO, I don't believe you are justified in slandering me without properly presenting ALL the facts. So please, try and tell the facts, since I don't hide behind the courage of alternate internet ego.

Really have to go. Have a joyous day and may you be blessed with inspiration and wisdom.:welcome:

You got pantsed a lot in high school, didn't you?

[MO<1>]

You got pantsed a lot in high school, didn't you?

Not quite. Fist fighting was a hobby- but then I trained as a killer and learned to understand that treating someone civil is usually a more productive route.

I did hang around with nerds, they loved the physcial protection watching me kick the anger out of bullies. I guess I have never outgrown protecting those that are denied rights due to physical differences. Do you like to bully others?

[BroncoInferno]

Not quite. Fist fighting was a hobby- but then I trained as a killer and learned to understand that treating someone civil is usually a more productive route.

I did hang around with nerds, they loved the physcial protection watching me kick the anger out of bullies. I guess I have never outgrown protecting those that are denied rights due to physical differences. Do you like to bully others?

I was a two-handed gunslinger myself and saved blondes tied to the railroad tracks. I believe that trumps your fist-fighting and nerd protection. Now, aren't you supposed to be getting to the gym? :strong:

[MO<1>]

I was a two-handed gunslinger myself and saved blondes tied to the railroad tracks. I believe that trumps your fist-fighting and nerd protection. Now, aren't you supposed to be getting to the gym? :strong:

Some people can be anything they want in cyberspace, but I appreciate your public service. I am only a mere human, so you do get +2 on the trump.

Yes, I have to go swim. Can't run or jump due to my service disability. This is addictive and I am waiting for a response that doesn't really matter.

I talked with a minister yesterday in passing and we traded ancedotes about teaching youth about the value of having a "good" name, and I guess that it sticks with me to own up to any mistakes or wrongs that are my fault. While we all make errors in judgment, I don't think most people want to be hurtful, but then there are the minority.

In college, my journalism instructor said those who write "letters to the editors" were all whackos, and you had no responsiblity to even read the off-handed responses of anybody who couldn't pay for advertising. Opened my eyes to the 3d state.

[BroncoInferno]

Some people can be anything they want in cyberspace, but I appreciate your public service. I am only a mere human, so you do get +2 on the trump.

Yes, I have to go swim. Can't run or jump due to my service disability. This is addictive and I am waiting for a response that doesn't really matter.

I talked with a minister yesterday in passing and we traded ancedotes about teaching youth about the value of having a "good" name, and I guess that it sticks with me to own up to any mistakes or wrongs that are my fault. While we all make errors in judgment, I don't think most people want to be hurtful, but then there are the minority.

In college, my journalism instructor said those who write "letters to the editors" were all whackos, and you had no responsiblity to even read the off-handed responses of anybody who couldn't pay for advertising. Opened my eyes to the 3d state.

Honestly, I can't really follow the relevance here, but your service is appreciated.

[MO<1>]

Honestly, I can't really follow the relevance here, but your service is appreciated.

Thanks, your appreciation does mean alot.

The point is that Obama attracted his first followers by having a good name. Inside the Chicago loop, his organization efforts- though uncessfull got him elected to 2 legislatures. Then he tried to take his grass roots organization into the mainstream, but without a record of mainstream success and following the corrupt politics of any party, he is not so palatable.

I disagree with McCain/Palin on numerous issues impinging on civil rights. Their strong point is that there is a record that their are not more of the same corrupt politics that it takes to succeed in the DC beltway. It is their good name. Few in Washington can match McCains non partisan record, but there are some. Examine the records of Sen Feingold (D-CA). Maybe Obama should have followed her example before smearing his own good name and cloaking himself in the corrupt fellowship of so many others.

In the beltway, if you are open-minded like Sen Lieberman (an Idependent), the corrupt will do everything to diminish your voice. How could a once Dem presidential canidate will outcast so far by really pushing for change?

Everything you have can be taken from you (house, money, freedom, etc); but you have to make the choice to surrender integrity.

[Rohirrim]

None of this makes any sense.

Are you saying that Obama has a monopoly on community service? What kind of garbage is that?

It is GOOD that this issue enters the public spotlight.

You have your priorities out of order. Party over country for you, eh?

So the RNC didn't spend half it's time making fun of Obama's service? And what planet were you visiting?

[socalorado]

This is just more of the same slimeball politics from the Right. It's all they know. Imagine what Obama could have done? Do you know the options available to a young, black man coming out of Harvard with a JD as the president of the Harvard Law Review? First, if he chose, he could have had one of the plum jobs in the country: Supreme Court clerkship. Second, he could have picked any DA job in the country and started his political career off with a bang. Third, he could have picked any of the most prestigious law firms in the U.S. and started at a couple of hundred grand a year. What does he decide to do? Go stick up for unemployed steel workers in Chicago while teaching Constitutional law to students.

But here's the good part. McCain was at Columbia yesterday talking about how great service is and how important it is to dedicate a part of your life to your community, and blah, blah, blah. Welcome to the Republican Party: Where slimeball politics and hypocrisy rule.


Well, i agree woth you to a point. I think BOTH parties have issues with what they did before they were in office. It sucks.
BUT! Of all the guys you just cant point the finger at, its JMCCain.
He was doing volunteer "service" for you and me at the Hanoi Hilton.
His father could have put him in a cush, job like Big Daddy Bush did with jr, but oh no! McCain put his @$$ out there for you and me. EVEN IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH THE VIETNAM WAR (yes,it was a war)!!!!
You gotta give the ol' man props for not taking the easy way out when he very simply could have.
i watched him last night and he just seemd "alive". i know it sounds weird, but he looked younger than obama. He even got a honest laugh from the liberal crowd when he pretended to be asleep.
obama looks tired, man. this stuff is wearing on him. And this latest attack volley seems to have him really off balance.
He did well last night, dont get me wrong.

[MO<1>]

This is just more of the same slimeball politics from the Right. It's all they know. Imagine what Obama could have done? Do you know the options available to a young, black man coming out of Harvard with a JD as the president of the Harvard Law Review? First, if he chose, he could have had one of the plum jobs in the country: Supreme Court clerkship. Second, he could have picked any DA job in the country and started his political career off with a bang. Third, he could have picked any of the most prestigious law firms in the U.S. and started at a couple of hundred grand a year. What does he decide to do? Go stick up for unemployed steel workers in Chicago while teaching Constitutional law to students.

But here's the good part. McCain was at Columbia yesterday talking about how great service is and how important it is to dedicate a part of your life to your community, and blah, blah, blah. Welcome to the Republican Party: Where slimeball politics and hypocrisy rule.


Well, i agree woth you to a point. I think BOTH parties have issues with what they did before they were in office. It sucks.
BUT! Of all the guys you just cant point the finger at, its JMCCain.
He was doing volunteer "service" for you and me at the Hanoi Hilton.
His father could have put him in a cush, job like Big Daddy Bush did with jr, but oh no! McCain put his @$$ out there for you and me. EVEN IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH THE VIETNAM WAR (yes,it was a war)!!!!
You gotta give the ol' man props for not taking the easy way out when he very simply could have.
i watched him last night and he just seemd "alive". i know it sounds weird, but he looked younger than obama. He even got a honest laugh from the liberal crowd when he pretended to be asleep.
obama looks tired, man. this stuff is wearing on him. And this latest attack volley seems to have him really off balance.
He did well last night, dont get me wrong.

:thumbsup:

[Bronco Bob]

Bob, please recite the Bush doctrine.

Maybe you ought to ask that question of Palin, after all she's the one you
are voting for to be the VP, not me. While you are at it, ask Joe Biden
if he knows what it means.

[Spider]

Come on Mo ...we know you want to say it ...Obama is an uppity colored man that has to learn his place

[Spider]

Come on Mo , we know your real problem , this uppity black dude is teaching other black folk to be uppity as well .Next thing you know those messicans will start demanding stuff also

[MO<1>]

Come on Mo ...we know you want to say it ...Obama is an uppity colored man that has to learn his place

I feel very sorry that you feel that way. Please don't project your hatred on someone else, goodness nose you spread alot of it around. I hope you find tolerance and peace.

[MO<1>]

Come on Mo , we know your real problem , this uppity black dude is teaching other black folk to be uppity as well .Next thing you know those messicans will start demanding stuff also

Spider, I am in a mixed race family. Does that bother you? My wife is a college educated professional in public service. Does that bother you? Please put your sheets back on the bed.Hilarious!

May you find peace and tolerance and the ability to face your feelings that you project on others.

BTW: The Raiders are going to be 0-2! Just two games behind the Broncos! Does that bother you?

[Spider]

I feel very sorry that you feel that way. Please don't project your hatred on someone else, goodness nose you spread alot of it around. I hope you find tolerance and peace.

LOL who do you think your are Bull****ting ? seriously , your hatred for Obama goes past politics ....... you start thread after thread , nothing of subtance , just how you dont like the man , someone starts a positive thread about Obama , and you are there ........ No you are the racist Mo , a closet racist , but still racist none the less

[MO<1>]

LOL who do you think your are Bull****ting ? seriously , your hatred for Obama goes past politics ....... you start thread after thread , nothing of subtance , just how you dont like the man , someone starts a positive thread about Obama , and you are there ........ No you are the racist Mo , a closet racist , but still racist none the less

Not quite, but if you think disliking a man because of what he stands for (regardless of the color of his skin) means I'm racist; then I expect you have deep seated issues. Try again.Hilarious!

Spideer- you consistently throw pedophiles into an abnormal amount of posts. Does that mean you are hiding something?Hilarious!

[Spider]

Not quite, but if you think disliking a man because of what he stands for (regardless of the color of his skin) means I'm racist; then I expect you have deep seated issues. Try again.Hilarious!

Spideer- you consistently throw pedophiles into an abnormal amount of posts. Does that mean you are hiding something?Hilarious!

Of course I am hiding something you turd ..........MY KIDS YOU ****WAD

[Spider]

Spider, I am in a mixed race family. Does that bother you? My wife is a college educated professional in public service. Does that bother you? Please put your sheets back on the bed.Hilarious!

May you find peace and tolerance and the ability to face your feelings that you project on others.

BTW: The Raiders are going to be 0-2! Just two games behind the Broncos! Does that bother you?

yeah so mixed race ..... Big deal , i know people of mixed racist that dislike one of the races they are ......

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

No you are the racist Mo , a closet racist , but still racist none the less

MO<1> and bob:
http://www.movieactors.com/freezes1/TradingPlaces23.jpeg

"Do you really believe I would have a n****r
run our family business, Randolph?"

"Of course not. Neither would I."

http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/t/trading-places-script-transcript-murphy.html

[Spider]

see here is what Mo and people like him dont get ......
I didnt vote for W , but I supported him , he went into Afghanistan , I stood in his corner , on mecks site , I was lambasting Libs why ? going into Afghanistan after Bin Laden was the right thing to do , Bush lost me going into Iraq ,and everything Bush has attempted since has failed , McCain has went along with Bush 95% of the time ......... thats ****ed up , See what people like Mo dont do is stand up for whats right , they put party first and foremost , they could care less about this country Party is everything to these people .......

[BroncoBuff]

MO<1> and bob:
http://www.movieactors.com/freezes1/TradingPlaces23.jpeg

"Do you really believe I would have a n****r
run our family business, Randolph?"

"Of course not. Neither would I."

http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/t/trading-places-script-transcript-murphy.html

Classic .... ROFL!

[MO<1>]

yeah so mixed race ..... Big deal , i know people of mixed racist that dislike one of the races they are ......

So you consistently hang out with racists, demonstrate sexism consistently, have a fixation of pedophiles, spout like you have tourets, have bragged about almost engaging in physical violence, and you consistently slander and debase the non-left crowd. and you are a Raider fan hanging out on the Orangemane because they kicked you off of Raider Nation. It is extremely easy to provide documentation on all these statements, claims, and insults you have made; so it really looks like your life isn't too together.

Now I'll start with the assumptions. I assume you feel happy insulting others. You never will resort to violence, because you are in fact very cowardly. You lean left because the angry whacko posters are fueled by the nonsense you spew, and every gang of weak dogs run in packs. The young open minded adults find you quirky and eccentric, most of them being more polite and educated than you are and that makes you feel good.

I'm happy for you that on the internet you can be anybody you want, except any smarter than you are in real life. It provides an outlet where the hate you have for females, other ethnic groups and races, religions, and those more affluent do not have to suffer anything stupid that you may call recreation.

The unhappy news is that I don't play that way. By stating things that only are real in your head, it neither empties my pocket, breaks my arm, or hurts my credibility with people that matter. Your only success is that I am increasing becoming convinced that very little signifcant debate, discussion, knowledge or entertainment is found by spending time on bulletin board where such meaningless drivel prevails and a great amount of time is spent reading immature insults.

Normally I would not post such a cruel and direct debasing of another human being, it neither brings me joy nor boosts my ego; but eventually someone had to slap you into maturity. There are some free groups that meet in Cheyenne where they will gladly help you with almost all of your issues (except being a Raider fan) and if you can't find them, send me a note and I will gladly help you out. You will still be able to vote for Obama, only you will due as a decent person with some control in their life.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

wow good one! ::)

'American Idol' politics at its best.

[MO<1>]

MO<1> and bob:
http://www.movieactors.com/freezes1/TradingPlaces23.jpeg

"Do you really believe I would have a n****r
run our family business, Randolph?"

"Of course not. Neither would I."

http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/t/trading-places-script-transcript-murphy.html

Wow! You spent some time working on developing a message where you could hide your racists leaning by posting it with my name on it. I could care less what a feab thinks about me. But I do have the courage to point out ignorant hating of someone because of the color of their skin. It is pretty apparent by your effort and disregard by any offensive non-white posters would take at your "humour", that you are indead a hater. You, Spider, and Buff Bronco should be able to share the same KKK bedsheets. I don't think even masking racial epithets in a joke is a funny thing. You obviously do not really support Obama, but you do enjoy trolling.

You continually degenerate people by their sex, race, and opinion without communicating any value. Does attacking others make you feel superior due to your shortcomings? You devalue the freedom of speach, but that doesn't mean better humans have to accept your behavior.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

BLO<1> is learning the Rove/Schmidt playbook.

[Drek]

Congratulatons on reading his books, then why the earlier agitated behavior? What success? He was successful at organizing, but not at completing anything of "spectacular" value. Since you are an Obama supporter, can you please list his top 3 accomplishments in your opinion. This will surely make me believe he is a better canidate for VP than Palin.

Hey MO!

I did just that for you, the post below this one. Why no response?

You need to take the party blinders off man. You ask for something, I deliver, and you run and hide with more right wing rhetoric.

If you really where/are a member of the armed services then I'm severely disappointed. I'd like to think our nation teaches the young fighting men and women who protect her how to be honest, forthright, and see through bull**** first and foremost.

[MO<1>]

Hey MO!

I did just that for you, the post below this one. Why no response?

You need to take the party blinders off man. You ask for something, I deliver, and you run and hide with more right wing rhetoric.

If you really where/are a member of the armed services then I'm severely disappointed. I'd like to think our nation teaches the young fighting men and women who protect her how to be honest, forthright, and see through bull**** first and foremost.

Drek.

You pointed out 3 bills introduced as a legislature, that isn't any success as a communitty organizer, but he did make an impact.

As for the rest of your comments about running and hiding, I don't live on here. Yes, I just retired in April 08, the <1> means First Sergeant. Apparently you are trying a personal attack on me and dragging the 1% of Americans that offer up all they have for your freedoms. If you really think you can see past party lines, take a look at the racist comments being posted by your fellow party members like LA Bronco, Buff Bronco, and Spider. They actually think it is funny to hide behind accusing others of saying racist comments, when they are the real originators and they obviously think it is funny. I don't suspect Obama would be amused and if he has the values you hope for, he definitely would not want supporters like them. In the millitary, there is zero tolerance for racist behavior. Thinking the racism (and sexism) is something to makes jokes out has caused me to kick losers out.

Your fellow posters are sick, racist, and cowardly. I don't believe these are people worth giving any more time to.

I don't lump you in there. We've had some good conversations, but anyone who ignores injustice is a participating bystander. Good luck in making the world better.

First Sergeant Morgan (retired)

[Mr.Meanie]

You continually degenerate people by their sex, race, and opinion without communicating any value.

You degenerator!

[Spider]

So you consistently hang out with racists, demonstrate sexism consistently, have a fixation of pedophiles, spout like you have tourets, have bragged about almost engaging in physical violence, and you consistently slander and debase the non-left crowd. and you are a Raider fan hanging out on the Orangemane because they kicked you off of Raider Nation. It is extremely easy to provide documentation on all these statements, claims, and insults you have made; so it really looks like your life isn't too together. LOL well it is nice to have a hobby ....... As for me being a Raider fan ROFL! you dont know some of these people met me in person , I know you are doing what you can to get back at me for clowning your monkey ass , but you really need to understand that , you look like a jerk off .......

Now I'll start with the assumptions. I assume you feel happy insulting others. You never will resort to violence, because you are in fact very cowardly. to bad you are in Ari , I would love to give you the opertunity to test this little theory of youres .... Hilarious! You lean left because the angry whacko posters are fueled by the nonsense you spew, and every gang of weak dogs run in packs. The young open minded adults find you quirky and eccentric, most of them being more polite and educated than you are and that makes you feel good. and you lean right cause you are stupid , and I am not the only to have pointed that out ..... Dude 5 or 6 people call you stupid on a regular basis , you would think you would have got a clue bu now ........

I'm happy for you that on the internet you can be anybody you want, except any smarter than you are in real life. It provides an outlet where the hate you have for females, other ethnic groups and races, religions, and those more affluent do not have to suffer anything stupid that you may call recreation. LOL Dr Phil on line ..........

The unhappy news is that I don't play that way. By stating things that only are real in your head, it neither empties my pocket, breaks my arm, or hurts my credibility with people that matter. Your only success is that I am increasing becoming convinced that very little signifcant debate, discussion, knowledge or entertainment is found by spending time on bulletin board where such meaningless drivel prevails and a great amount of time is spent reading immature insults. of course you dont want to play that way , you want ot tell bull**** , lie your ass off and hate an uppity Black guy and not be confronted about it .....

Normally I would not post such a cruel and direct debasing of another human being, it neither brings me joy nor boosts my ego; but eventually someone had to slap you into maturity. There are some free groups that meet in Cheyenne where they will gladly help you with almost all of your issues (except being a Raider fan) and if you can't find them, send me a note and I will gladly help you out. You will still be able to vote for Obama, only you will due as a decent person with some control in their life.

LOL I would love to see you try and slap me , I will tell I am considering going back OTR driving ,Nothing has been decided yet , but if I do , you damn well bet i will be in your neck of the woods , then we will see just who does what slapping ...... Or Perhaps you might come to denver to see a Bronco game , I would be more then happy to meet you will talegate ........ Hilarious!

[Bronco Bob]

Mo, you are stupid. There, that makes 7.

[BroncoBuff]

Your fellow posters are sick, racist, and cowardly. I don't believe these are people worth giving any more time to.
Hahahaha! Don't feel too bad Drek ... this lowbrow sent me several pm's calling me a racist because I laughed at LABF's Duke Brothers joke from the movie 'Trading Places' ... and he was serious! ROFL!

Is MO-dummy harassing anybody else with PMs?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Hahahaha! Don't feel too bad Drek ... this lowbrow sent me several pm's calling me a racist because I laughed at LABF's Duke Brothers joke from the movie 'Trading Places' ... and he was serious! ROFL!

Is MO-dummy harassing anybody else with PMs?

ROFL!

No PMs here - but I have his rustic ass on ignore.

[BroncoBuff]

I just retired in April 08, the <1> means First Sergeant. Apparently you are trying a personal attack on me and dragging the 1% of Americans that offer up all they have for your freedoms.

First Sergeant Morgan (retired)
I just saw this .... hey that's great. Congratulations on the retirement and thank you for your service to our country. 100% serious. But try to remember that your service was primarily to defend our Constitution, which guarantees everyone - on the OrangeMane and elsewhere - the right to state his political opinions without censorship or harassment. You like John McCain? Fine with me, we just disagree. But we're both Americans, and we should both remember that.

I salute your service and retirement, sir. :USA:

[Spider]

Hahahaha! Don't feel too bad Drek ... this lowbrow sent me several pm's calling me a racist because I laughed at LABF's Duke Brothers joke from the movie 'Trading Places' ... and he was serious! ROFL!

Is MO-dummy harassing anybody else with PMs?

LOL yeah he wanted me to google some veteran to ask him how bad Mo was ROFL! , I told him to meet in person

[Spider]

I just saw this .... hey that's great. Congratulations on the retirement and thank you for your service to our country. 100% serious. But try to remember that your service was primarily to defend our Constitution, which guarantees everyone - on the OrangeMane and elsewhere - the right to state his political opinions without censorship or harassment. You like John McCain? Fine with me, we just disagree. But we're both Americans, and we should both remember that.

I salute your service and retirement, sir. :USA:

Idont know about his service......... He makes alot of hollow threats .......... Hell until the other day I didnt know i worked for a Gary

[MO<1>]

Idont know about his service......... He makes alot of hollow threats .......... Hell until the other day I didnt know i worked for a Gary

Maybe you should make apologies for your racist comments, quit posting about children, and refrain from personal attacks. It shouldn't matter what my skin color is, but you should not assume without knowing who you are talking to that I put up with racial hate-mongers.

I assume your case worker doesn't know about your "mad personal skills." Are you not lucky that information gained from the registry cannot be used against you?

I assume half the stuff you post is fabrication, or do you really waste PDQ's fuel, threaten your boss, and endanger putting food on the table so your ego can be inflated on by posting trash on the internet? Most of the truckers are very anti Spider. What other skills do you have?

Does your counselor know? Maybe you should seek help before it gets you in trouble.

The ball is in you court, where do you want the line to begin?

[Spider]

Maybe you should make apologies for your racist comments, quit posting about children, and refrain from personal attacks. It shouldn't matter what my skin color is, but you should not assume without knowing who you are talking to that I put up with racial hate-mongers. LOL maybe I should apologize ? Ok I will Apologize just as soon you Apologize for your stupidity .Deal

I assume your case worker doesn't know about your "mad personal skills." Are you not lucky that information gained from the registry cannot be used against you? LOL use them , from my Case worker ROFL!

I assume half the stuff you post is fabrication, or do you really waste PDQ's fuel, threaten your boss, and endanger putting food on the table so your ego can be inflated on by posting trash on the internet? Most of the truckers are very anti Spider. What other skills do you have? LOL you Assume ? I gave you every opportunity to find out .....

Does your counselor know? Maybe you should seek help before it gets you in trouble.

The ball is in you court, where do you want the line to begin?LOL right ****ing now boy ... fire away

[Spider]

I am calling you out Mo ...... shoot , lets see what you got ......Oh by the way , I already shared the Attempted murder charge , but lets see what you got

[Spider]

I have way to many assault charges , to help you narrow down your search , but the name Pat Gomez , should come up , then the time I punched a Denver cop that one I wont forget ,then the shooting on 6 th and bannock , in Denver ....need some more clues boy ? **** just a side note , I didnt try and shoot anyone , I was the one with the crowbar *******

[MO<1>]

Such a social splendor!

Do you know the difference between where and when?

Go ahead, out yourself some more. I'm not impressed by tales of violence typical of racist hate mongers. Losers have nothing to loose, but maybe you think before you blow up and hurt those around you.

I know you don't have the courage, intelligence, or moral fiber to do the right thing; don't expect others to tolerate your lack of control.

PS- You have already lost.

[TailgateNut]

So you consistently hang out with racists, demonstrate sexism consistently, have a fixation of pedophiles, spout like you have tourets, have bragged about almost engaging in physical violence, and you consistently slander and debase the non-left crowd. and you are a Raider fan hanging out on the Orangemane because they kicked you off of Raider Nation. It is extremely easy to provide documentation on all these statements, claims, and insults you have made; so it really looks like your life isn't too together.

Now I'll start with the assumptions. I assume you feel happy insulting others. You never will resort to violence, because you are in fact very cowardly. You lean left because the angry whacko posters are fueled by the nonsense you spew, and every gang of weak dogs run in packs. The young open minded adults find you quirky and eccentric, most of them being more polite and educated than you are and that makes you feel good.

I'm happy for you that on the internet you can be anybody you want, except any smarter than you are in real life. It provides an outlet where the hate you have for females, other ethnic groups and races, religions, and those more affluent do not have to suffer anything stupid that you may call recreation.

The unhappy news is that I don't play that way. By stating things that only are real in your head, it neither empties my pocket, breaks my arm, or hurts my credibility with people that matter. Your only success is that I am increasing becoming convinced that very little signifcant debate, discussion, knowledge or entertainment is found by spending time on bulletin board where such meaningless drivel prevails and a great amount of time is spent reading immature insults.

Normally I would not post such a cruel and direct debasing of another human being, it neither brings me joy nor boosts my ego; but eventually someone had to slap you into maturity. There are some free groups that meet in Cheyenne where they will gladly help you with almost all of your issues (except being a Raider fan) and if you can't find them, send me a note and I will gladly help you out. You will still be able to vote for Obama, only you will due as a decent person with some control in their life.


You need help transitioning from your insinuated retirement as a 1st SGT to civilian live. Here your rank does not give immediate and unquestionable credibility to your thoughts and rantings.

We do not jump to attention to your "bark". Get used to it PVT.!

[MO<1>]

Tailgut Nut,

Are you another mad child?

The unhappy news is that I don't play that way. By stating things that only are real in your head, it neither empties my pocket, breaks my arm, or hurts my credibility with people that matter. Your only success is that I am increasing becoming convinced that very little signifcant debate, discussion, knowledge or entertainment is found by spending time on bulletin board where such meaningless drivel prevails and a great amount of time is spent reading immature insults.

Why are you also threatened by losers, racist, hatemongers, and perpetrators being called front and center? Do you realize that pedophiles and racists prey on the weak? Is that what you really support, or do you just lack someone paying attention to you? Maybe you should stick to Sim Life? I don't want you to continue being weak, so I hope you may be blessed with greater character strength.

[TailgateNut]

Tailgut Nut,

Are you another mad child?

The unhappy news is that I don't play that way. By stating things that only are real in your head, it neither empties my pocket, breaks my arm, or hurts my credibility with people that matter. Your only success is that I am increasing becoming convinced that very little signifcant debate, discussion, knowledge or entertainment is found by spending time on bulletin board where such meaningless drivel prevails and a great amount of time is spent reading immature insults.

Why are you also threatened by losers, racist, hatemongers, and perpetrators being called front and center? Do you realize that pedophiles and racists prey on the weak? Is that what you really support, or do you just lack someone paying attention to you? Maybe you should stick to Sim Life? I don't want you to continue being weak, so I hope you may be blessed with greater character strength.



You need to seek professional help. Pronto!

[Rohirrim]

I just saw this .... hey that's great. Congratulations on the retirement and thank you for your service to our country. 100% serious. But try to remember that your service was primarily to defend our Constitution, which guarantees everyone - on the OrangeMane and elsewhere - the right to state his political opinions without censorship or harassment. You like John McCain? Fine with me, we just disagree. But we're both Americans, and we should both remember that.

I salute your service and retirement, sir. :USA:

You assume it was our country. ;D

I have the dude on ignore but I can't help but read it when others post his stuff. His whackitude is modestly entertaining. I spent three years in the U.S. Army Infantry and I promise you, there was never a First Sargeant I ever saw who sounded like that.

[TailgateNut]

You assume it was our country. ;D

I have the dude on ignore but I can't help but read it when others post his stuff. His whackitude is modestly entertaining. I spent three years in the U.S. Army Infantry and I promise you, there was never a First Sargeant I ever saw who sounded like that.



Ding, ding, ding. Hence my "PVT" comment!:wiggle:

You do have to factor in his purported 08 retirement. If it were true, and if he had served 20 years, he would have entered the service after I got out, and I didn't have to deal with the typical 1st sgt. Being part of the rag-tag fly-boy types, we didn't "conform to the norm".:spit:

Boots' shined? Righto! That hydraulic oil wreaks havoc on leather!
Uniform ragged? Can't press/ starch my flight suit!
Didn't make formation? Had to finish my pre-flight inspection!
Where you hat? Can't wear it on the flightline!


You ask the question, I have the answer.:spit:

[MO<1>]

By stating things that only are real in your head, it neither empties my pocket, breaks my arm, or hurts my credibility with people that matter. Your only success is that I am increasing becoming convinced that very little signifcant debate, discussion, knowledge or entertainment is found by spending time on bulletin board where such meaningless drivel prevails and a great amount of time is spent reading immature insults.

I've neither posted anything embarassing to me, unwarrantly belittling others, or making false claims. However, you are right about two things.
1. It is a hard transition to civilian, where standards of conduct are much lower.
2. Posting on this board does not make it true. I could be a 12 year old girl that has gotten the better of you. I could be a low-life, white trash that is so socially inept that his is my only release. I could be a 98 pound high school student needing attention. I could be a Phd doing doctorial research on how misfits on the internet socially interact during political discussions. Maybe I am a member of the McCain disinformation committee exposing the high intellect of Obama supporters. Maybe I am DOJ fishing on the internet so I can bust people violating the civil rights of others. Maybe I am a bored housewife. I could be a bhudist monk.

Or maybe I am a 20+ years, highly decorated combat veteran who has been where most were either too weak or lazy to go. Please take time to thank a soldier, sailor, airman, or marine for freedom.

The point is you never know, so why is it so hard for so many to act like decent people? Why is there so many quick to attack others without thinking? What if that is a kid you are cursing at or bullying? Maybe you need to find other hobbies.

I have been sufficiently amused and it will not change the herd behavior of angry and crazy people in any manner. To those 1% that have served honorably and those decent biengs posting on the website; blessings and thanks. To those other, get on this frequency: By stating things that only are real in your head, it neither empties my pocket, breaks my arm, or hurts my credibility with people that matter. I'm never ashamed to have my name on my mailbox, but not stupid or crazy enough to post criminals acts, lies, racist comments, personal details, or threats of violence on the NIPRnet.

How about those Broncos!

[Spider]

Such a social splendor!

Do you know the difference between where and when?

Go ahead, out yourself some more. I'm not impressed by tales of violence typical of racist hate mongers. Losers have nothing to loose, but maybe you think before you blow up and hurt those around you.

I know you don't have the courage, intelligence, or moral fiber to do the right thing; don't expect others to tolerate your lack of control.

PS- You have already lost.
LOL everything I have stated everyone already knows , they know about me watching my Dad get shot , and my uncle ........ LOL I am the racist ? ok , you can think that , but as I told you in a pM , if you truly the kind of person I was , you wouldnt be ****ing around with me , I dont blame you for not wanting to meet me , but next time you challenge someone to a fight , be damn careful of what you are getting into ......

[MO<1>]

Don't worry, I knew your miserable life in 15 minutes of effort. Truth is, you are not even worth it. Even without my effort, you are losing your job, devoid of any real friends, skills, education, and purpose in life. The only thing you seem to have going for you is to vent your madness on this board.

You challenged me, you started the racist comments, you instigated this. Despite it, the more you post, the more pathetic and not worthy you are. Just like the Chief, it isn't worth wasting spending any time on.

By stating things that only are real in your head, it neither empties my pocket, breaks my arm, or hurts my credibility with people that matter. Your only success is that I am increasing becoming convinced that very little signifcant debate, discussion, knowledge or entertainment is found by spending time on bulletin board where such meaningless drivel prevails and a great amount of time is spent reading immature insults.

You can't post whatever, it isn't going to be paid any more attention by me.

[Spider]

Don't worry, I knew your miserable life in 15 minutes of effort. Truth is, you are not even worth it. Even without my effort, you are losing your job, devoid of any real friends, skills, education, and purpose in life. The only thing you seem to have going for you is to vent your madness on this board. LOL I am losing my Job hey .did Gary tell you this ?

You challenged me, you started the racist comments, you instigated this. Despite it, the more you post, the more pathetic and not worthy you are. Just like the Chief, it isn't worth wasting spending any time on.
Let me guess My case worker told you this

By stating things that only are real in your head, it neither empties my pocket, breaks my arm, or hurts my credibility with people that matter. Your only success is that I am increasing becoming convinced that very little signifcant debate, discussion, knowledge or entertainment is found by spending time on bulletin board where such meaningless drivel prevails and a great amount of time is spent reading immature insults. LOL in other words I nailed you down , you are a racist that has nothing ........

You can't post whatever, it isn't going to be paid any more attention by me.

Gee ....... an Idiot will ignore me ........ Hmm take me some time to get over this one ............ Ok all better thanks for asking

[Spider]

LOL well Mo I threw down the gauntlet , you said the ball was in my court ...... Looks like Game ,set , Match ......... and whats really funny is , I am easy to find on line ......

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

LOL well Mo I threw down the gauntlet , you said the ball was in my court ...... Looks like Game ,set , Match ......... and whats really funny is , I am easy to find on line ......

Ha!

Another yellow republican keyboard warrior goes down in flames.

[Rank&File]

Everyone is a "keyboard warrior" in here. It's the nature of the beast. Half the **** said in here would cause an immediate throw down if it was said in person, and everyone says that they would say it to the other guys face. I doubt it... I'm a little past that these days. In my case, a third kid did the trick, I was still pretty whiskey bent and hell bound after the first two. But my little girl changed my outlook. I have kinda enjoyed this thread though...Most of the others get very redundant.