Freakin Biden

[spdirty]

LOL dipshlt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRV5Y1JCGRI

[Spider]

??? ..........

[spdirty]

link not work for you?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Wow - looks like it must be a slow day at the lipstick and pig factory.

[Spider]

link not work for you?

worked perfectly ............

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

worked perfectly ............

:D

Wake me up when he actually wants to discuss the issues.

[Mr.Meanie]

hahaha that's hilarious

nice recovery though

[MO<1>]

Wow - looks like it must be a slow day at the lipstick and pig factory.

Much slower day at the pickle factory. Closed for Obama profit!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Much slower day at the pickle factory. Closed for Obama profit!

You're a liar.

The Video’s Claim: Though Sen. Obama has spoken about worker’s rights to groups critical of Wal-Mart, he didn’t mention that the CEO of TreeHouse Foods received $26 million in compensation in 2005, while Wal-Mart’s CEO received $10.5 million, despite the fact that TreeHouse is a much smaller company — “maybe because he’s embarrassed his wife sits on the Board of Directors of TreeHouse Foods, a company that shut a plant in 2006 that was staffed primarily with low-paid Hispanics!”

The Truth: Michelle Obama joined the Board of Directors of TreeHouse Foods in June 2005, shortly after the company was spun off its parent company, Dean Foods. TreeHouse CEO Sam Reed (http://www.treehousefoods.com/bio_sam_reed.html) was reportedly paid $26.2 million in 2005, much of which was in the form of stock options stemming from the company’s spin-off and contingent on the company’s level of performance, according to Crain’s Business (http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/mag/article.pl?id=26965&postDate=2006-12-09). In other words, the company must do well for Reed to receive that money.

TreeHouse has an Executive Compensation Committee to determine the salaries of its executives. Michelle Obama does not sit on this committee (http://www.treehousefoods.com/bio_michelle_obama.html). When asked, she pointed out that Reed’s compensation is “benchmarked to that of other food firms.” She also noted to a reporter that her income “is pretty low compared to my peers,” adding, “You wouldn’t ask that question if, like some people in politics, we had trust funds and were
rich.”

As for the claim about the plant that was shut down in 2006, it’s true. It was a pickle plant in La Junta, Colorado, and employed 153 people. It was not closed by TreeHouse directly, however, but by Bay Valley Foods, a division of the larger TreeHouse company. The video’s attempt to link Michelle Obama to the plant’s closure — and to once again inject racial overtones into its specious claim — is like saying the Secretary of Agriculture should be held responsible for the unfortunate closing of a military base in Maine.

A press release (http://www.lexdon.com/article/Bay_Valley_Foods_Announces_Plans/20513.html) from Bay Valley Foods regretfully attributes the closure to “a reduction in our pickle business and a significant increase in overhead costs, making it necessary to consolidate our manufacturing network. The La Junta facility is a high-cost plant with the lowest utilization among Bay Valley Foods’ pickle plants. Production at La Junta will be reallocated among our five remaining pickle production facilities.”

http://obamarama.org/2007/01/25/the-truth-about-obamatruthorg/

[Breaker]

:D

Wake me up when he actually wants to discuss the issues.

This coming from you Ha! The only way you discuss anything resembling an issue is the first have someone say something then you put up a plus 1, a cartoon, or one of nodding faces. You have not had an original thought in about thirty years.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

This coming from you Ha! The only way you discuss anything resembling an issue is the first have someone say something then you put up a plus 1, a cartoon, or one of nodding faces. You have not had an original thought in about thirty years.

There you go with your usual, idiotic, lying drivel again.

No wonder you admire serial liars like McCain and Palin - they are reflections of yourself.

[MO<1>]

[QUOTE=L.A. BRONCOS FAN;2077989]You're a liar.

You really need to be more aware of Colorado news media:

http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_5389746

I'm not sure how you keep up on your Bronco news, but, you also need to check other sources before saying somebody lied.

http://vbonnaire.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/obama-la-junta-latinosin-a-pickle-over-corporate-practices-ask-a-little-town-in-colorado/

La Junta's Mayor Phil Rizzuto's take on Obama

Rizzuto works as a banker. As La Junta's mayor, he holds a nonpartisan position, but he considers himself a Democrat. He said he called Obama's office in November to discuss the plant closing but did not get a call back. He expected perhaps a call from an aide. He did not expect to hear from Obama.

"He's got a degree from Harvard," Rizzuto said. "I have a degree from Southern Colorado State College (now Colorado State University-Pueblo). Harvard guys don't talk to Southern Colorado State College guys. Come on."

[MO<1>]

Treehouse foods and Ms Obama:

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=191105&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1005665&highlight

Cartoons are great for children! How about those Broncos!!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You really need to be more aware of Colorado news media:

http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_5389746

I'm not sure how you keep up on your Bronco news, but, you also need to check other sources before saying somebody lied.

http://vbonnaire.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/obama-la-junta-latinosin-a-pickle-over-corporate-practices-ask-a-little-town-in-colorado/

La Junta's Mayor Phil Rizzuto's take on Obama

Rizzuto works as a banker. As La Junta's mayor, he holds a nonpartisan position, but he considers himself a Democrat. He said he called Obama's office in November to discuss the plant closing but did not get a call back. He expected perhaps a call from an aide. He did not expect to hear from Obama.

"He's got a degree from Harvard," Rizzuto said. "I have a degree from Southern Colorado State College (now Colorado State University-Pueblo). Harvard guys don't talk to Southern Colorado State College guys. Come on."

None of what you posted here challenges or even addresses the facts.

Too late to weasel out of your lie - you were already busted here:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2077989&postcount=9

[MO<1>]

None of what you posted here challenges or even addresses the facts.

Too late to weasel out of your lie - you were already busted here:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2077989&postcount=9

You are too quick to the draw. I had never seen the video until you mentioned it, I was aware last year of the story from Colorado. Instead of pulling info from a Dem site, I checked out the Treehouse Foods site. You are correct that Obama refutes any responsiblity- that does not make it debunked. I did originally cite the Denver Post and the story ran in spring 07, well before I knew very much about Obama. The pickle factory has long been a community fixture, with more than one relative telling the joke about the pickle cutter.

Comparing me to a rodent and calling me names is not warranted, but it neither breaks my arm nor empties my pocket. I really think you are trying to give too much credit to a fictional movement.

Speaking of movement, may Selvin Young bust for 200 yards against the bolts! GO BRONCOS!

[ElwayMD]

LOL dipshlt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRV5Y1JCGRI

He should have healed him with the power of Obama! :strong:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You are too quick to the draw. I had never seen the video until you mentioned it, I was aware last year of the story from Colorado. Instead of pulling info from a Dem site, I checked out the Treehouse Foods site. You are correct that Obama refutes any responsiblity- that does not make it debunked. I did originally cite the Denver Post and the story ran in spring 07, well before I knew very much about Obama. The pickle factory has long been a community fixture, with more than one relative telling the joke about the pickle cutter.


Holy crap - what part of this don't you understand? ???


As for the claim about the plant that was shut down in 2006, it’s true. It was a pickle plant in La Junta, Colorado, and employed 153 people. It was not closed by TreeHouse directly, however, but by Bay Valley Foods, a division of the larger TreeHouse company. The video’s attempt to link Michelle Obama to the plant’s closure — and to once again inject racial overtones into its specious claim — is like saying the Secretary of Agriculture should be held responsible for the unfortunate closing of a military base in Maine.

A press release from Bay Valley Foods regretfully attributes the closure to “a reduction in our pickle business and a significant increase in overhead costs, making it necessary to consolidate our manufacturing network. The La Junta facility is a high-cost plant with the lowest utilization among Bay Valley Foods’ pickle plants. Production at La Junta will be reallocated among our five remaining pickle production facilities.”

[stugotsII]

Why is it that everytime this man opens his mouth, he feels it necessary to put his foot into it?

[NaptownChief]

In other words, the company must do well for Reed to receive that money.



Around 90% of compensation for the top paid executives in the country has historically come from stock options and equity compensation that is performance driven but it hasn't kept the liberals from screaming about it and wanting to go after "big business".

Not sure why you want that door to only swing one way.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Around 90% of compensation for the top paid executives in the country has historically come from stock options and equity compensation that is performance driven but it hasn't kept the liberals from screaming about it and wanting to go after "big business".

Not sure why you want that door to only swing one way.

Actually, that part of the article is irrelevant to the discussion I was having with MO.

He was trying to claim that Michelle Obama was responsible for the closure of the La Junta factory discussed in the article.

The article proves that this claim is a bold face lie.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Why is it that everytime this man opens his mouth, he feels it necessary to put his foot into it?

ROFL!

This from a supporter of a ticket that has been caught in one lie after another since jump street?

That's a thigh slapper. Ha!

[NaptownChief]

Actually, that part of the article is irrelevant to the discussion I was having with MO.




I get that...Just pointing out that your point was to justify the compensation in some way by stating it was only received if the company performed. And I was following up on the fact that the liberals don't want to hear that story when they are busy attacking "big business".

[stugotsII]

He should have healed him with the power of Obama! :strong:

Truly hillarious.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I get that...Just pointing out that your point was to justify the compensation in some way by stating it was only received if the company performed. And I was following up on the fact that the liberals don't want to hear that story when they are busy attacking "big business".

My point?

Like I just told you, I was only interested in the part of the article that debunked his claim about Michelle Obama closing the factory.

[NaptownChief]

My point?

Like I just told you, I was only interested in the part of the article that debunked his claim about Michelle Obama closing the factory.


Then why did you waste any time posting this comment:

"In other words, the company must do well for Reed to receive that money."

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Then why did you waste any time posting this comment:

"In other words, the company must do well for Reed to receive that money."

That isn't my comment - it just happens to be in the article I posted that debunks the claim about Michelle Obama closing the factory.

[Breaker]

There you go with your usual, idiotic, lying drivel again.

No wonder you admire serial liars like McCain and Palin - they are reflections of yourself.

My lying idiotic drivel ROFL!. All you have is lying idiotic drivel and everyone on the board knows it. You have never had a single original thought without having to have someone post it for you first. You RUN like a scared little girl from any conversations in which you might have to actually think for yourself, then magically jump in after Rho or someone else makes a point. You are a liar, a dodger, and worst of all unoriginal and every single person that has posted here for more than two days knows it.

Perfect example is how you suck from Gaffs teat, but then again you never post anything NEW or any sort of research in those threads. You simply high five, plus 1 and cartoon your way to trying to find some sense of value in your own mind. The best part is that when someone calls you out on it you get so mad and huffy and go all ad hom on them. Then again the ad hom attacks you make probably aren't that original either, you probably have a website called "ad hom attacks.com" in which you simply copy and paste from.

Also, who said I am even voting for McCain cause I have not decided. UNLIKE you I will vote for one of the two instead of simply crying "I don't like either of them" and refusing to vote so you can bitch and whine about whoever wins. You probably have not voted for either of the major party candidates in over 30 years you insignificant spec, just so you can say "I didn't vote for them, its not MY fault"

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

My lying idiotic drivel ROFL!. All you have is lying idiotic drivel and everyone on the board knows it.

Typical WindBreaker response:

1) Insert bandwagon appeal

2) Follow up with straw man arguments.

*yawn*