Rivers, "Cutler started it"

[Broncobuddy7]

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/news/2008/sep/08/chargernotes221742-rivers-mum-broncos-baiting-flap/?chargers

Rivers prefers to punt regarding Broncos flap

Monday, September 8, 2008
Chargers QB Philip Rivers says he still plans on talking with Denver quarterback Jay Cutler before the team's meet on Sunday. Jim Baird/Union-Tribune

After taking all the criticism, all the while remaining mum on what Jay Cutler did that Christmas Eve that wasn't caught on camera, Philip Rivers doesn't see why he wouldn't talk with Cutler same as usual prior to Sunday's game in Denver.

“I've always spoke to him before every time we played,” Rivers said. “From my end, sure.”

Rivers, anyone who follows football remembers, was skewered last year by fans and media after being shown on television during the Chargers' Christmas Eve victory yelling in the direction of the Broncos.

It was after a fourth-down stop that Rivers came a few steps onto the field and was yelling, and Rivers maintained he was imparting encouragement to his teammates, though he acknowledged he did make eye contact with Cutler and there had been jawing back and forth. Thing is, Rivers and several teammates said, Cutler started the talking.

What Rivers won't address is a crude gesture several Chargers say Cutler made prior to Rivers' theatrics.

And Rivers said he won't have anything more to say about Cutler this week.

“I'm not going to get into it through ... the media all week long,” he said. “I'm just not gonna do it. I'm gonna talk football and Denver and what kind of team they are as I get to prepare for them and play the game. Whatever happened to me is gone. That was eight months ago. I'm gonna move forward.”


I personally think Rivers needs and orange and blue backhand. It's difficult to talk when your lip is swollen.

[Atwater His Ass]

cry moar

[TheReverend]

He's playing the victim...?

[TotallyScrewed]

When it comes to trash talk...apparently "Everyone is a VICTIM".

[Schism]

Ah yes, a mysterious crude gesture from the notoriously withdrawn and quiet Cutler. One that, madly enough, wasn't caught by a single cameraman.

At a Monday Night Football game no less.

I don't really have much of a problem with the whole Rivers MNF thing. Sure I felt his jawing was a bit immature, but **** it. I doubt Jay is losing any sleep over it and I know I won't.

Trying to say Jay started it is a bit pathetic though.

[Drek]

Sounds like someone is covering their ass for an impending beating.

[ludo21]

Only 5 short days away.

[hades]

Ah yes, a mysterious crude gesture from the notoriously withdrawn and quiet Cutler. One that, madly enough, wasn't caught by a single cameraman.

At a Monday Night Football game no less.

I don't really have much of a problem with the whole Rivers MNF thing. Sure I felt his jawing was a bit immature, but **** it. I doubt Jay is losing any sleep over it and I know I won't.

Trying to say Jay started it is a bit pathetic though.

Shanahan actually started it, by drafting Cutler into the same division as Rivers. What a cruel, cruel thing to have done.

[bronclvr]

They brought this up last night on "Jay Cutler Live", and asked Jay about it-he got this look on his face and said "I can't repeat what he said to me" (Rivers). then they asked him how he felt about it and he said "it makes me want to get out there and play the Game" (or something close to that)-

He just has that air about him, and always seems to have the right answers.

I have a man crush on that guy-:~ohyah!:

[WoodMan]

Man Up Phyllis!;)

[cmhargrove]

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/news/2008/sep/08/chargernotes221742-rivers-mum-broncos-baiting-flap/?chargers

Rivers prefers to punt regarding Broncos flap

Monday, September 8, 2008
Chargers QB Philip Rivers says he still plans on talking with Denver quarterback Jay Cutler before the team's meet on Sunday. Jim Baird/Union-Tribune

After taking all the criticism, all the while remaining mum on what Jay Cutler did that Christmas Eve that wasn't caught on camera, Philip Rivers doesn't see why he wouldn't talk with Cutler same as usual prior to Sunday's game in Denver.

“I've always spoke to him before every time we played,” Rivers said. “From my end, sure.”

Rivers, anyone who follows football remembers, was skewered last year by fans and media after being shown on television during the Chargers' Christmas Eve victory yelling in the direction of the Broncos.

It was after a fourth-down stop that Rivers came a few steps onto the field and was yelling, and Rivers maintained he was imparting encouragement to his teammates, though he acknowledged he did make eye contact with Cutler and there had been jawing back and forth. Thing is, Rivers and several teammates said, Cutler started the talking.

What Rivers won't address is a crude gesture several Chargers say Cutler made prior to Rivers' theatrics.

And Rivers said he won't have anything more to say about Cutler this week.

“I'm not going to get into it through ... the media all week long,” he said. “I'm just not gonna do it. I'm gonna talk football and Denver and what kind of team they are as I get to prepare for them and play the game. Whatever happened to me is gone. That was eight months ago. I'm gonna move forward.”


I personally think Rivers needs and orange and blue backhand. It's difficult to talk when your lip is swollen.

I may be the biggest RIvers hater here, but I think he is actually taking the high road (if he does what he says). I take this as a "wait and see," because it's hard to stop being a hothead like Rivers has been.

Props to Rivers if he shuts his hole.

Now Jay - kick his ass.

[dreasher54]

I have a man crush on that guy-:~ohyah!:[/QUOTE]

;)

[theAPAOps5]

If he flipped out over a middle finger then thats kind of weak. All he needed to do is smile and point at the scoreboard. But he seems to have a very short fuse. It doesn't affect his game though so I guess its just his personality.

[400HZ]

The only thing he said is that he doesn't feel the need to comment on it. He didn't say anything about Jay's "crude gesture" and never has.

[baja]

Rivers, "Yes, I will not comment on that rude gesture, you know that painful hurtful universal gesture that Jay Cutler extended my way. I refuse to comment on that insulting thrusting movement with the right hand. I'm above that".

[Kaylore]

They brought this up last night on "Jay Cutler Live", and asked Jay about it-he got this look on his face and said "I can't repeat what he said to me" (Rivers). then they asked him how he felt about it and he said "it makes me want to get out there and play the Game" (or something close to that)-

He just has that air about him, and always seems to have the right answers.

I have a man crush on that guy-:~ohyah!:

Yeah I was going to mention this. They showed the replay and Cutler looked up and said "Just seeing that makes me want to play right now."

People, I'm telling you the Chargers are dead when they limp into Invesco. The Broncos are going to destroy them.

[bronclvr]

People, I'm telling you the Chargers are dead when the limp into Invesco. The Broncos are going to destroy them.

Man, I hope you are right-I am cautiously optimistic-

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

Was it only the middle finger? Who is sensitive enough (especially with what's seen/heard in the NFL) to consider the middle finger rude any more?

Rivers may be French.

[Jens1893]

I thought Rivers had been out of kindergarten for a while.

[BroncoFanatic]

People, I'm telling you the Chargers are dead when the limp into Invesco. The Broncos are going to destroy them.

Man I hope you're right. I don't want to just beat them, I want them demoralized when they leave. I want to see Rivers laid out unconcious. I want to see LT hiding under his hood on the sidelines while the fans roar in his ears all game. I want the crybabies on the team like LT and Phyllis pointing fingers and complaning about each other. I want locker room disarray. I want fans screaming for player cuts and coach firings.

Go for the jugular Broncos :charge: :stirstir: :nutkick

[Paladin]

Jezus. It's only a game.

That said, I can envision a Broncos win. That by itself, would give them distension to go with their diarrhea of the mouth....

Nonetheless, punch 'em out, Broncos!!!!!

[Beantown Bronco]

Cameras can catch Plummer flipping off a group of hecklers from the bench in a mili-second during a day game....but they don't catch any gestures from an actual QB on the field during a heavily covered nationally televised game. I'll call BS on that one.

[Smiling Assassin27]

I have a man crush on that guy-:~ohyah!:

;)[/QUOTE]


excuse me, but i'm sure a few folks around here (me, for example) would respond with, 'I SAW HIM FIRST!'.

[bronclvr]

;)


excuse me, but i'm sure a few folks around here (me, for example) would respond with, 'I SAW HIM FIRST!'.[/QUOTE]

can't we take turns?

[crowebomber]

Rivers sure gets rattled pretty easily. I'm sure there are more than a few fans at Invesco who will have some gestures for him this weekend.

[richpjr]

Cameras can catch Plummer flipping off a group of hecklers from the bench in a mili-second during a day game....but they don't catch any gestures from an actual QB on the field during a heavily covered nationally televised game. I'll call BS on that one.

I never saw it, but Eric Allen said he watched the coaches tape of the game and supposedly Cutler looked at the Charger bench and grabbed his crotch, sort of confirming what the Charger players say.

Anyway, it's old news and really after the first play or two anything that happened last season will be forgotten.

[TheReverend]

I never saw it, but Eric Allen said he watched the coaches tape of the game and supposedly Cutler looked at the Charger bench and grabbed his crotch, sort of confirming what the Charger players say.

Anyway, it's old news and really after the first play or two anything that happened last season will be forgotten.

Can't say I believe anything Eric Allen has to say, but if that IS the case then I like Cut even more than I already do.

[Hotrod]

Who really knows maybe Jay did start it. The important thing to remember here is now Jay is going to FINISH it. :yep:

[Kaylore]

Anyway, it's old news and really after the first play or two anything that happened last season will be forgotten.

Oh no. I can guarantee you that they will be thinking of last year every play this weekend. The Chargers are running into a buzz saw.

[bronclvr]

Oh no. I can guarantee you that they will be thinking of last year every play this weekend. The Chargers are running into a buzz saw.

I really hope you are right-we certainly looked good on Monday, but we are facing an entirely different animal Sunday-

[fdf]

Ah yes, a mysterious crude gesture from the notoriously withdrawn and quiet Cutler. One that, madly enough, wasn't caught by a single cameraman.

At a Monday Night Football game no less.

I don't really have much of a problem with the whole Rivers MNF thing. Sure I felt his jawing was a bit immature, but **** it. I doubt Jay is losing any sleep over it and I know I won't.

Trying to say Jay started it is a bit pathetic though.

He should just shut his yap and play football. I don't see Cutler having press conferences about this trivial incident.

[hades]

Man, I hope you are right-I am cautiously optimistic-


This will be my 4th home opener in a row, we have won them all so far, so I will wear the same shirt.

[400HZ]

Oh no. I can guarantee you that they will be thinking of last year every play this weekend. The Chargers are running into a buzz saw.

You probably said that after SD ran up the score at Invesco last year.

[Orange_Beard]

Bitch.

[Kaylore]

You probably said that after SD ran up the score at Invesco last year.

Nope. I think even you know, deep down, your team is in trouble this Sunday.

[Los Broncos]

And he will finish it...

[400HZ]

Nope. I think even you know, deep down, your team is in trouble this Sunday.

Hey, they could be. LT could be out. Gates could be out. McNeil and Hardwick will be out. Merriman is out. Any time you lose five Pro Bowl players off your roster, you're in trouble. They are definitely fragile right now, but if they cover that fragility with intensity, then the Chargers will be fine. I said last week that I didn't think SD would cover against Carolina. I'm pretty objective when it comes to making predictions. They were fragile last week and didn't step up their game to compensate.

San Diego is going to do one of two things this week. They are going to show up demoralized and get their asses kicked. Or they are going to come out fired up and give the Broncos a classic, humiliating beat down. Even with the injuries, they can destroy a team like Denver if they give 4 quarters of the effort they showed in the 4th against Carolina. It's tough to predict which one it will be with Norval the Uneven at the helm, but I'm leaning towards a W for the Chargers.

[Kaylore]

Even with the injuries, they can destroy a team like Denver if they give 4 quarters of the effort they showed in the 4th against Carolina. It's tough to predict which one it will be with Norval the Uneven at the helm, but I'm leaning towards a W for the Chargers.

LOL

[BMF Bronco]

Dude, Rivers is the biggest douche on the planet! I hope Doom is up his ass the entire game!

[Schism]

The Chargers may well win, I don't deny that.

But no way Denver gets blown out, and to be perfectly honest I can't see us blowing them out either.

Neither defense will be good enough to turn this game into a rout. I'll be surprised if both teams don't get more than 20 points.

27-24 or some such score IMO, and it could go either way.

[alkemical]

I think the chargers could still win -

But i think cutler wants to stick it to 'em - GO BRONCOS!

[colonelbeef]

He is such a child. His comeuppance will be sweet

[Kaylore]

I think the chargers could still win -

But i think cutler wants to stick it to 'em - GO BRONCOS!

Oh they'll be in this. The Boltz don't want to look bad and know they'll need to give it their all to overcome their bumps and bruises. It will go blow for blow, but ultimately Denver will pull away and overwhelm the Chargers.

[cutthemdown]

I may be the biggest RIvers hater here, but I think he is actually taking the high road (if he does what he says). I take this as a "wait and see," because it's hard to stop being a hothead like Rivers has been.

Props to Rivers if he shuts his hole.

Now Jay - kick his ass.

He's just saying that hopeing he will win again so he can talk more crap. Rivers is easy to figure out.

[broncofan2438]

Hey, they could be. LT could be out. Gates could be out. McNeil and Hardwick will be out. Merriman is out. Any time you lose five Pro Bowl players off your roster, you're in trouble. They are definitely fragile right now, but if they cover that fragility with intensity, then the Chargers will be fine. I said last week that I didn't think SD would cover against Carolina. I'm pretty objective when it comes to making predictions. They were fragile last week and didn't step up their game to compensate.

San Diego is going to do one of two things this week. They are going to show up demoralized and get their asses kicked. Or they are going to come out fired up and give the Broncos a classic, humiliating beat down. Even with the injuries, they can destroy a team like Denver if they give 4 quarters of the effort they showed in the 4th against Carolina. It's tough to predict which one it will be with Norval the Uneven at the helm, but I'm leaning towards a W for the Chargers.

Highly doubt that! It sounds as if they are fine. SD will be fired up, but hopefully we will as well and our fans can get into this one big time!

[cutthemdown]

Chargers ruined here chances passing Brees to NO, then not trying to keep ELI. They ended up with a QB who will never win a Superbowl. Rivers just doesn't have it IMO. He's decent but not special.

[rovolution]

Hey, they could be. LT could be out. Gates could be out. McNeil and Hardwick will be out. Merriman is out. Any time you lose five Pro Bowl players off your roster, you're in trouble. They are definitely fragile right now, but if they cover that fragility with intensity, then the Chargers will be fine. I said last week that I didn't think SD would cover against Carolina. I'm pretty objective when it comes to making predictions. They were fragile last week and didn't step up their game to compensate.

San Diego is going to do one of two things this week. They are going to show up demoralized and get their asses kicked. Or they are going to come out fired up and give the Broncos a classic, humiliating beat down. Even with the injuries, they can destroy a team like Denver if they give 4 quarters of the effort they showed in the 4th against Carolina. It's tough to predict which one it will be with Norval the Uneven at the helm, but I'm leaning towards a W for the Chargers.



400 i can sense your fear from this post!!!


Jay wants revenge!!!! He hates the Chargers, as do all of the members of this Broncos team.

Your guys dont HATE Denver with a passion.

We HATE you guys. Our pure anger will make the preparation for this game more intense.

[BroncoFiend]

It's funny, just this morning I heard someone else say 'He started it'.

It was a kindergartener just before getting on the bus when his Mom caught him pushing another kid.

[alkemical]

Fear Cutler

[BroncoFiend]

Hey, they could be. LT could be out. Gates could be out. McNeil and Hardwick will be out. Merriman is out. Any time you lose five Pro Bowl players off your roster, you're in trouble. They are definitely fragile right now, but if they cover that fragility with intensity, then the Chargers will be fine. I said last week that I didn't think SD would cover against Carolina. I'm pretty objective when it comes to making predictions. They were fragile last week and didn't step up their game to compensate.

San Diego is going to do one of two things this week. They are going to show up demoralized and get their asses kicked. Or they are going to come out fired up and give the Broncos a classic, humiliating beat down. Even with the injuries, they can destroy a team like Denver if they give 4 quarters of the effort they showed in the 4th against Carolina. It's tough to predict which one it will be with Norval the Uneven at the helm, but I'm leaning towards a W for the Chargers.

Didn't you guys let Carolina drive down a score a touchdown to win the game in the 4th quarter? I hope they give that type of effort too.

[Circle Orange]

It's hard to understand River's lisp with all that food in his cheeks.

[Inkana7]

I always knew it. I mean, Rivers looks like such a quiet, reserved guy. He's never looked like the type to go on angry, idiotic tantrums without reason.

[Peoples Champ]

So did Peyton Manning start his little temper tantrum in Indy last year in the playoffs?

[BroncoMan4ever]

Sounds like someone is covering their ass for an impending beating.

i was thinking the same thing. It seems like Rivers is trying to get sympathy for the Chargers before sunday.
he is playing the victim for his mouth.

who cares though, i doubt Jay even thought about him after the game

[azbroncfan]

Well since Rivers is the cockiest sh@t talker in the game who believes him for one instance. I think everyone has seen his antics against the Colts and other teams he has played against besides Denver.

[bucking fronco]

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[Houshyamama]

We Bronco fans here in San Diego call him 'Pip' in reference to the foreign kid in South Park.

He better be ready to play in Cutler's shadow as long as he stays in the AFC West.

[Bronx33]

Whatever rivers what the **** ever.

[summerdenver]

IIRC, chargers have been scrambling to do damage control since the next day of the game. I have read comments from mysterious inside sources that Cutler used the 'N' word on some of the charger defenders and then that he made a crude gesture etc. They all back off from it when asked point blank in the press conferences. Chargers players keep saying that it was the emotion of the game when asked directly - but there also hidden innuendos that Broncos somehow were responsible for this. I don't buy it on bit and can't see how - Culter has no problem with any other player on any other team where as Chargers are always complaining about other teams. Ten is a dirty team, Patroits cheat, Broncos cut block and therefore are unmanly on and on.

My take is that - and i saw the game again - SD dominated the game and were trying to showup denver. Cutler was taking repeated late hits was getting furstated with lack of success. Rivers and the other charger players wer smack talking thru out the game and when the game got of hand, they just rubbed it in. IMHO, it was very classless and left a sour taste in Denver fans mouth.

[bronclvr]

This will be my 4th home opener in a row, we have won them all so far, so I will wear the same shirt.

:thumbsup:

[Hamrob]

I thought I had read somewhere else that Jay like to talk a little smack? Sure, he probably gave Phyllis the bird...whoopie! You could see his helmet moving back and forth like he was talling Rivers...."Keep talking Phyllis...keep talking".

Personally, I don't mind guys talking smack...it's part of the game...but for the QB to do it coming off the sideline to the other QB...what a bag!

We're going to kick some dolt a$$ this weekend!