For the Obama Supporters on this Board worried about the polls

[BarefootKicker]

:peace:

[TheDave]

Well done!

[MO<1>]

Noooo! Don't chill out. Rage! Keep debasing other people until the anarchists are happy! I want reform and to empty the beltway of self-serving politicians. I want smaller government. I want unemployed lawyers to take a job building the wall. Obama is a catalyst to get Americans to vote for reform. Keep focusing on Palin, cussing, raging, and watching MTV and Youtube.

[Mr.Meanie]

I want smaller government.

Did you vote Republican the last election cycle?

[MO<1>]

Did you vote Republican the last election cycle?

The last election cycle (do you mean presidential). I assume you do, my vote was cast by absentee ballot since I was deployed forward. The county recorder returned it 3 times, effectively canceling out my voice even though everything was in order. Did I vote for Bush? YES. I actually listened to every State of the Union address and admired what he wanted to accomplish:
1. Alternate Fuel Sources (hydrogen fuel cell and synthetic combustion)
2. Fiscal restriant (no more pork)
3. Less government
4. No special interest groups
5. Bi-Partisan action to ensure the potential of America
6. Flat tax - as you spend, you pay - no special exemptions

Someone said you can talk abstract (Meanie) but it doesn't get things accomplished. You can thank the Special Interest groups and a vast majority of legislatures in their hip pockets for these remaining hollow dreams.

As for security, I was on the tip of that spear, and most Americans will never understand just what great things we have accomplished.

[DenverBrit]

The last election cycle (do you mean presidential). I assume you do, my vote was cast by absentee ballot since I was deployed forward. The county recorder returned it 3 times, effectively canceling out my voice even though everything was in order. Did I vote for Bush? YES. I actually listened to every State of the Union address and admired what he wanted to accomplish:
1. Alternate Fuel Sources (hydrogen fuel cell and synthetic combustion)
2. Fiscal restriant (no more pork)
3. Less government
4. No special interest groups
5. Bi-Partisan action to ensure the potential of America
6. Flat tax - as you spend, you pay - no special exemptions

Someone said you can talk abstract (Meanie) but it doesn't get things accomplished. You can thank the Special Interest groups and a vast majority of legislatures in their hip pockets for these remaining hollow dreams.

As for security, I was on the tip of that spear, and most Americans will never understand just what great things we have accomplished.

And you believed him?? Ha!

[MO<1>]

And you believed him?? Ha!

And whom do you believe? You believe the party of the same. If you think Bush actually could accomplish progress without bi-partisian support, then you should reexamine the congressional record. By stalling and not working together, ignoring it was a non-partisian failure, then you will continue getting the same type of response from the federal government. Americans are not stupid. Please explain, if you can, how increasing the power base on the same party that has denied progress and continued corruption and wants to enlarge the pork train will actually improve anything but their stranglehold?

[DenverBrit]

And whom do you believe? You believe the party of the same. If you think Bush actually could accomplish progress without bi-partisian support, then you should reexamine the congressional record. By stalling and not working together, ignoring it was a non-partisian failure, then you will continue getting the same type of response from the federal government. Americans are not stupid. Please explain, if you can, how increasing the power base on the same party that has denied progress and continued corruption and wants to enlarge the pork train will actually improve anything but their stranglehold?

Not Bush........and frankly, no other politician who has already been caught lying.
Which I know covers a lot of ground.

[MO<1>]

Link to the actual lie? At best you can prove quibble, but teller of lies is a strong and inaccurate statement. On the other hand, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman," is bona fide.
Bush is gone. It is time to get rid of all the liars. Since Obama has quibbled, you will still vote for the corrupt politics because MSNBC has blamed Bush? Do you not suppose that Fox and MSNBC targeted specific demographic shares and only really care if you are entranced enough to watch their advertisements?
I agree that liars should be banned from political office. Whom do we have left?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I actually listened to every State of the Union address and admired what he wanted to accomplish:


And you didn't bother to check this list against his actual record? Ha!

[MO<1>]

And you didn't bother to check this list against his actual record? Ha!

By all means, it is in the congressional record that Pelozi stonewalled. Bush is president, not dictator. It takes both the executive and legislative branch to accomplish real progress. Like you wrote earlier---Follow the money!:thumbsup:

[stugotsII]

Polls mean nothing.

It will come down to the debates. Obama is pretty much sounding like a whinny baby right now. He has definately lost his swagger.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

And whom do you believe? You believe the party of the same. If you think Bush actually could accomplish progress without bi-partisian support, then you should reexamine the congressional record. By stalling and not working together, ignoring it was a non-partisian failure, then you will continue getting the same type of response from the federal government. Americans are not stupid. Please explain, if you can, how increasing the power base on the same party that has denied progress and continued corruption and wants to enlarge the pork train will actually improve anything but their stranglehold?

Not for nothing, but I could tell this guy was a complete, worthless ahole way back in 2000. In fact, i went on a rant in my sociology class the next day on people who voted 3rd party, convinced that he would ruin our country.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

By all means, it is in the congressional record that Pelozi stonewalled. Bush is president, not dictator. It takes both the executive and legislative branch to accomplish real progress. Like you wrote earlier---Follow the money!:thumbsup:

Try to follow along here:

You said you voted for the court-appointed pinhead in '04 because you "admired what he wanted to accomplish."

I asked if you had bothered to compare this list against his actual record.

BTW, Bush had a rubber stamp/GOP-controlled Congress at that time.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Obama is pretty much sounding like a whinny baby right now.

Wingnut-to-English Translation:

"Obama is criticizing Republicans and pointing out GOP lies and hypocrisy."

[MO<1>]

Not for nothing, but I could tell this guy was a complete, worthless ahole way back in 2000. In fact, i went on a rant in my sociology class the next day on people who voted 3rd party, convinced that he would ruin our country.

Well, that seals it. By the way you categorize people, I can tell you have an expanded view of the situation and always examine the details with a microscope. Our country is far from ruined, so your rant was another demonstration of quality maturity- but there is hope yet. Either Obama will win or he won't. I wouldn't even categorize Obama the way you do other people, but it is your right to denigrate others.

[Spider]

Well, that seals it. By the way you categorize people, I can tell you have an expanded view of the situation and always examine the details with a microscope. Our country is far from ruined, so your rant was another demonstration of quality maturity- but there is hope yet. Either Obama will win or he won't. I wouldn't even categorize Obama the way you do other people, but it is your right to denigrate others.

you sure do alot of crying ......... If it bothers you so much , then think before you post , you post lies , spout off like an Idiot , and you want to be treated with respect ? **** that , give an idiot the treatment he deserves

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Well, that seals it. By the way you categorize people, I can tell you have an expanded view of the situation and always examine the details with a microscope. Our country is far from ruined, so your rant was another demonstration of quality maturity- but there is hope yet. Either Obama will win or he won't. I wouldn't even categorize Obama the way you do other people, but it is your right to denigrate others.

Actually, ive always been pretty political and keep my finger on the pulse while doing a lot of research. And please don't pull the language card with me. He's an ahole, i will continue to call him an ahole, because I'll call a spade a spade. And yes, this country is much worse off than it was 8 years ago.

[Garcia Bronco]

And you believed him?? Ha!

And you believe Obama? Or Clinton? Or GHWB?

These guys all over-sell. But everything MO has said was in Bush's addresses. He even talked about performing enhancing drugs.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

And you believe Obama? Or Clinton? Or GHWB?

These guys all over-sell. But everything MO has said was in Bush's addresses. He even talked about performing enhancing drugs.

And he obviously didn't bother to compare the address with the actual record of the previous four years.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

And he obviously didn't bother to compare the address with the actual record of the previous four years.

And its more "the past 8 years never happened" rhetoric. ENOUGH. You guys ****ed up

[Drek]

See, this is why McCain stays close in polls.

Clowns like MO and Garcia seriously swallow the bull**** they keep slinging even though their entire political careers 100% diverge from those comments.

Bush "fiscal conservativism!" = record deficit spending.

McCain "drive out the lobbyists!" = lobbyists running nearly every level of his campaign and being some of his major funders of his entire political career.

Yeah. Those are guys you can listen to.

[DenverBrit]

And you believe Obama? Or Clinton? Or GHWB?

These guys all over-sell. But everything MO has said was in Bush's addresses. He even talked about performing enhancing drugs.

You believed him too?? ???

[defenseman]

Polls mean nothing.

It will come down to the debates. Obama is pretty much sounding like a whinny baby right now. He has definately lost his swagger.

Considering his performances against hillary and the rest of the lefties, he's got something to be worried about to be honest...dman

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

And you believe Obama? Or Clinton? Or GHWB?


With GeeDubya, you already had four years to figure out what sort of president he would make - and you still thought he deserved a second term.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Considering his performances against hillary and the rest of the lefties, he's got something to be worried about to be honest...dman

Against a GOP candidate who admits he 'doesn't get' economics and who thinks Iraq shares a border with Pakistan?

:rofl:

[scttgrd]

They keep going to the well expecting a different result. Regan, Bush 1 and now Bush 1/2. All ran up the debt and put us behind the 8 ball. Keep voting republican and wondering why the sh!t continues to the fan. And these are supposed to be the smart ones?

[baja]

<B>And whom do you believe? </B> You believe the party of the same. If you think Bush actually could accomplish progress without bi-partisian support, then you should reexamine the congressional record. By stalling and not working together, ignoring it was a non-partisian failure, then you will continue getting the same type of response from the federal government. Americans are not stupid. Please explain, if you can, how increasing the power base on the same party that has denied progress and continued corruption and wants to enlarge the pork train will actually improve anything but their stranglehold?

How to Use "Whom" Correctly
The correct use of who and whom in questions may seem like a lost battle, still joined only by punctilious English teachers. But the correct usage remains important in formal writing, and careful speakers have not yet surrendered the distinction.

Steps
Know the difference between who and whom. They are both pronouns but who is used as the subject of a sentence or phrase and whom is used as the object of a verb. What follows is a quick way to determine which pronoun to use in a particular question.
Use whom when referring to the object of a verb.
To whom it may concern:
To whom did you talk today?
Whom does Sarah love?
Use who when referring to the subject of a sentence or phrase.
Who brought the paper inside?
Who talked to you today?
Who went to dinner?
Ask yourself if the answer to the question would be he or him. If you can answer the question with him, then use whom. It's easy to remember because they both end with "m". If you can answer the question with he, then use who.
Example: A suitable answer to the question, "To [who or whom] did the prize go?" is, "It went to him." (Almost no one would say "It went to he.") The correct pronoun for the question is whom.
Example: A suitable answer to the question, "[Who or Whom] went to the store?" is, "He went to the store." (Almost no one would say "Him went to the store.") The correct pronoun for the question who.


Tips
It is possible to write around problems involving who and whom, but the result is almost always clumsy. If you write "To which person did the prize go?" because you can't remember that whom is the correct pronoun for such a question, you will have avoided a grammatical error at the expense of elegance.
Here's a useful mnemonic for remembering about objects and subjects. If you say "I love you" then "you" is the object of your affection and the object of the sentence. "I" is the subject. "[Whom or Who] do I love?" is "Whom do I love?" because the answer, "you", is an object.

<B>Warnings
There is much confusion and misuse on this topic. Just as correctly using whom may make others think you are intelligent, misusing it may make you seem pompous.

[scttgrd]

Go easy Baja, those are republicans your talking to. It takes them more than 8 years to learn the simplest things.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Go easy Baja, those are republicans your talking to. It takes them more than 8 years to learn the simplest things.

Judging from their support for Palin, they haven't learned a thing from these past eight years.

Of course, when they chose GeeDubya as their nominee in 2000, everyone with two brain cells to rub together noted the same learning disability with respect to the Reagan years and trickle-down part I.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

T Did I vote for Bush? YES. I actually listened to every State of the Union address and admired what he wanted to accomplish:
1. Alternate Fuel Sources (hydrogen fuel cell and synthetic combustion)
2. Fiscal restriant (no more pork)
3. Less government
4. No special interest groups
5. Bi-Partisan action to ensure the potential of America
6. Flat tax - as you spend, you pay - no special exemptionsSo you must be really disappointed, eh?

As for security, I was on the tip of that spear, and most Americans will never understand just what great things we have accomplished.OK, if this is some kind of deep, dark secret then I'll have to agree with you.

[Florida_Bronco]

Hahahahahaha, great picture.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[BroncoBuff]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=22115&stc=1&d=1220998209



I feel MUCH better.

[MO<1>]

You believed him too?? ???

These addresses ran on TV, but instead of issues, it seems the anti-Bush crowd focused on personality and hearsay. Glad to see just how under informed and sparsely informed the Obama movement is. The comparision to Paris Hilton is being more substantiated every time a Obama supporter utters more nonsense and refuses to use thier own effort to be informed. That is why Obama really is scared, his supporters have a very low attention span and are not very well informed when real issues are discussed. That is why Palin seems more important then discussing issues. Almost every time an Obama supporter posts, it is with the degeneration of namecalling, fear, and viciousness of an upset animal- confused and acting without reasoning power. You haven't been asked to switch parties- just to really examine the issues and show simple tolerance of the right of others to make their own choice.

[Crushaholic]

Two months to go is a long time, particularly since the debates haven't started. I expect the polls to shift a few MORE times between now and Election Day.

[Bronco Bob]

Looks like the McCain bounce may be starting to fade. Latest NBC poll has
Obama up by +1. Compare that to a Gallup poll a few days ago that had
McCain up by +10.

[MO<1>]

Looks like the McCain bounce may be starting to fade. Latest NBC poll has
Obama up by +1. Compare that to a Gallup poll a few days ago that had
McCain up by +10.

That is the GE owned NBC, the home of Oberman? Even if Obama loses, NBC will have Obama at +1. Isn't this the same network that announced results in Florida during the last presidential even before the polls were closed?

[Bronco Bob]

That is the GE owned NBC, the home of Oberman? Even if Obama loses, NBC will have Obama at +1. Isn't this the same network that announced results in Florida during the last presidential even before the polls were closed?

What's your point?

[MO<1>]

What's your point?

Thomas Jefferson said the only truth in newspapers is the ads. I'm even speculative of ads. You can be convinced of anything if you are willing.

[BarefootKicker]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=22115&stc=1&d=1220998209



I feel MUCH better.



it was for humor's sake...

for real though, its not the polls i worry about, its the purging of the voter rolls going on in colorado, ohio, florida...

[TailgateNut]

The last election cycle (do you mean presidential). I assume you do, my vote was cast by absentee ballot since I was deployed forward. The county recorder returned it 3 times, effectively canceling out my voice even though everything was in order. Did I vote for Bush? YES. I actually listened to every State of the Union address and admired what he wanted to accomplish:
1. Alternate Fuel Sources (hydrogen fuel cell and synthetic combustion)
2. Fiscal restriant (no more pork)
3. Less government
4. No special interest groups
5. Bi-Partisan action to ensure the potential of America
6. Flat tax - as you spend, you pay - no special exemptions

Someone said you can talk abstract (Meanie) but it doesn't get things accomplished. You can thank the Special Interest groups and a vast majority of legislatures in their hip pockets for these remaining hollow dreams.

As for security, I was on the tip of that spear, and most Americans will never understand just what great things we have accomplished.


Voted for Bush? Who would have thunk it?ROFL!

You and your ilk are the problem.

[TailgateNut]

Actually, ive always been pretty political and keep my finger on the pulse while doing a lot of research. And please don't pull the language card with me. He's an ahole, i will continue to call him an ahole, because I'll call a spade a spade. And yes, this country is much worse off than it was 8 years ago.

I'll "second" your post, and go one step further. Those who voted for Bush in 04 are also aholes. No if, and, or but about it. ...and Yes I will say that to their faces. You had to be a complete and utter moron not to see the writing on the wall after his first 4 years.
Those who vote "party/ Bush" in 00 get a sympathetic pass.;)

[Bronco Bob]

Thomas Jefferson said the only truth in newspapers is the ads. I'm even speculative of ads. You can be convinced of anything if you are willing.

What's that got to do with your rant against GE? Oh, and BTW Rasmussen
also has Obama up by one. Which division of GE is Rasmussen under?

[Blueflame]

What's your point?
I think his point is that since the poll didn't support his candidate, he questions its legitimacy.... but I suspect the same poll would be gospel if it did support his candidate.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I think his point is that since the poll didn't support his candidate, he questions its legitimacy.... but I suspect the same poll would be gospel if it did support his candidate.

Yep - that's the history here where the righties are concerned.