Run Defense Still Looks Bad

[55CrushEm]

...IMO. Sorry to be Debbie Downer after such a great win......but I'm still VERY concerned about our run-D....especially after that first Raider drive. They marched right down the field on on....only to have JaFatty have the ball slip out of his hand.

If teams can gash us up the middle, and have long sustained drives.....Cutler will be standing on the sideline a lot, if our D can't get off the field.

Am I overreacting?

[CHANGSTER]

I wouldn't say your overreacting. I'm still pretty concerned with the defense as a whole. Keep in mind though, the Faid were near the top of the league in rushing last season.

[Dukes]

I don't think you're overreacting. It's clear that is our glaring weakness. If Shanny/Slowik can't find a way to stop the run we won't beat any really good teams.

[chrisp]

I think that any time your offense plays so well, it makes your defense look good, so maybe its fair to say that we can't really judge yet, but equally its a bit much to say we're suspect because of one good early drive.

Teams often come out of the blocks well only to get shut down later. Drive after drive they tried to do something and ended up punting - its not like turnovers killed every drive to get our D off the hook.

The other thing to remember is that they were going with a conservative gameplan becuase they had an untried QB and felt generally that the run game was their strong point offensively. But for a 49-yard gash in garbage time on a trick play, they would have barely scraped 100 yards for the whole team.

So yeah, the D played well but its not time to annoint them just yet. We have to wait for that inevitable game against tough opposition where the offense stutters: will they step up and keep the game tight untill the O can get its groove back on, or will they fold?

Having said that I was unable to watch the game (sorry but the time difference made it a killer!) so I'm keen to hear from some of those who saw it how our frnt seven played.

[55CrushEm]

Thinking ahead to next week facing LT......I have nightmares about last year's Jacksonville game....where they just ran and ran....what did they have, an 11 minute drive at one point? Cause we couldn't stop the run.

I have total faith in our offense this year.....but again, they won't be able to do much if they're not on the field due to our pourous run D.

[snowspot66]

We'll be average on D this year. Considering last year we should be thrilled with that. They only broke 100 yards late in the game in garbage time and 1/3 of their rush yards came on that late Fargas run. The Raiders do have a pretty good run game for all their other troubles. I don't see us being great on D but this year is going to be all about trying to get the offense on the field. An average defense can hold up enough to get you places (see Colts) and we can continue to work on it to push us over the top.

[rodr88]

...IMO. Sorry to be Debbie Downer after such a great win......but I'm still VERY concerned about our run-D....especially after that first Raider drive. They marched right down the field on on....only to have JaFatty have the ball slip out of his hand.

If teams can gash us up the middle, and have long sustained drives.....Cutler will be standing on the sideline a lot, if our D can't get off the field.

Am I overreacting?

No not at all. The first drive the raiders ran the ball well. I was concerned about that myself. But once a lead was built and they had to throw it was a big help to the run d. Great win, but there is still work to be done.

[theAPAOps5]

They rushed well at first but the team tightened that up. Seeing as how they ran all over our team last year I would say its a bit overreaction but its still the weakness.

[socalorado]

They rushed well at first but the team tightened that up. Seeing as how they ran all over our team last year I would say its a bit overreaction but its still the weakness.

Also the faid made a point to try and pound the ball on DEN at the beggining last night. That was kffins plan, and they have the personel to do it.
McFadden and Fargas are a dangerous duo, and during the 1st half, DEN's D tightened down on them.

LT has turf toe, so DEN has a really good chance to smack the sparklers around sun.
DEN still needs to improve their pass rush though.

[ANIMAL24]

we just got to score early get the lead and hold on to it

[WolfpackGuy]

I'm not too worried about that first drive. The Gayders marched like a whole 25 yards after that big kickoff return. You knew they were gonna pound it coming out of the gate. If the run defense can just be average this year and get off the field, that will be a huge improvement. Next week against SD will be a better test.

[Ratboy]

I wouldn't look too much into it. Most of the Raiders yards came after we sealed the win and our guys were *probably* not playing as hard.

[theAPAOps5]

Also the faid made a point to try and pound the ball on DEN at the beggining last night. That was kffins plan, and they have the personel to do it.
McFadden and Fargas are a dangerous duo, and during the 1st half, DEN's D tightened down on them.

LT has turf toe, so DEN has a really good chance to smack the sparklers around sun.
DEN still needs to improve their pass rush though.

I actually thought the pass rush was decent. Dumervil was all over the field last night and our tackles were pushing in the pocket. Now Oakland has a worthless OLine but still I thought there was decent pressure.

[oubronco]

Winborn was a animal the dude was everywhere but yes the run D is concerning but can be shored up with them taking proper angles on the first drive they were bad

[MVP-06]

Honestly I felt the run defense did much better up the middle. The majority of the runs when we got gashed were on the edges right at our undersized DE's which is to be expected. Robertson/Thomas plugged the middle well imo.

I thought the D-line played much better than last year. Egelberger as much as it pains me to say had a good game. The LB's however, I thought played/tackled poorly. Webster was his usual self overpursuing and tackling 8 yrds downfield. When they run to the edge like that it is the LB's responsibility to pursue and fill those holes.

Overall we killed the hated Faiders and I will sleep well this week

[theAPAOps5]

I don't think DJ was horrid. He played a good game. Weak Side is definitely his side.

[Garcia Bronco]

The Raiders are a good running team. They have more than a few of our linemen and some great backs, but I don't think you are over reacting.

[BMarsh615]

The Raiders are always going to be able to run the ball.

I thought we got better as the game went on.

The first drive and the last drive is where we slipped up but other than that I think we did pretty good.

I think we should be able to slow down most other teams running games.

[no-pseudo-fan]

The run D was OK, but the Raiders thought they could just run the ball, we laid some nasty hits on their backs, McFaider didn't even make it through the game.

[Spider]

Depends , our front 4 played well , our backers stopped shooting gaps and over perused on several plays , our Safetys well they are weak , but hard to tell if it was the D plan ,or just players ........
we got caught in several passing defenses , raiders ran it .......

[dbfan4life]

we just got to score early get the lead and hold on to it

I think this is the type of team we have to be this year in order to win. D just has to be decent, come out with a stop here and there, force turnovers, and we'll be OK.

[Kaylore]

We're not going to be able to elevate our D until we draft some more help at LB and safety. Marcus Thomas is looking better and one of our DE's could still emerge in a year or so. Ultimately its something that will be a weakness all year and we'll need the rest of the team to step up.

[broncofan2438]

Yea, wouldnt say u were overreacting, but the d still looks a little shaky. They better get their crap together before next weekend or were screwed. Special teams also needs some help

[cutler_to_marshall]

The special teams definetly started shaping up as the game went along. The kickoffs were high and deep and gave the coverage time to get downfield after the first initial blunders.

I hope we are kicking the ball off a lot this year :)

[Smiling Assassin27]

Karl Paymah is still a friggin' disaster.

[maher_tyler]

...IMO. Sorry to be Debbie Downer after such a great win......but I'm still VERY concerned about our run-D....especially after that first Raider drive. They marched right down the field on on....only to have JaFatty have the ball slip out of his hand.

If teams can gash us up the middle, and have long sustained drives.....Cutler will be standing on the sideline a lot, if our D can't get off the field.

Am I overreacting?

Thats a pretty fair assesment from what i saw...but you take away the 42 yard run they had towards the end and their numbers aren't that great!!

[snowspot66]

We have a better defense than last year. Much better, borderline average even. I think that's all we could have hoped for in so short of a time span.

[Dedhed]

There's no doubt that the run defense is not going to be the strength of this team, but they aren't anywhere close to last year's bad. If the performance of the offense is any indication of what's to come, they will take a great deal of pressure off the run defense because teams are going to have throw the ball in order to keep up.

What I'll take from this game more than anything is the undeniable fact that we're a significantly better football team than we were last year.

[colonelbeef]

Honestly I felt the run defense did much better up the middle. The majority of the runs when we got gashed were on the edges right at our undersized DE's which is to be expected. Robertson/Thomas plugged the middle well imo.

I thought the D-line played much better than last year. Egelberger as much as it pains me to say had a good game. The LB's however, I thought played/tackled poorly. Webster was his usual self overpursuing and tackling 8 yrds downfield. When they run to the edge like that it is the LB's responsibility to pursue and fill those holes.

Overall we killed the hated Faiders and I will sleep well this week

I agree with this assessment. The middle of the line was light years better than last year. The ends leave something to be desired on running plays, but the LB play was improved as well. Overall I give the D a greade somewhere around B-, and that will be more than enough if the offense is as good as it seems to be.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

We're not going to be able to elevate our D until we draft some more help at LB and safety. Marcus Thomas is looking better and one of our DE's could still emerge in a year or so. Ultimately its something that will be a weakness all year and we'll need the rest of the team to step up.

Our linebackers again were out of position at times. Especially winborn (did boss get much time last night? I noticed his jersey was a little dirty). Hopefully this will improve with time. Lets give em more than one game here

[Spider]

Our linebackers again were out of position at times. Especially winborn (did boss get much time last night? I noticed his jersey was a little dirty). Hopefully this will improve with time. Lets give em more than one game here

well they was over perusing .......just not t sure if it was on them or the game plan .One encouraging thing is the DE stayed home contained the bootleg , I would like to see more containment on the ends on running plays ,but we will see

[Peoples Champ]

...IMO. Sorry to be Debbie Downer after such a great win......but I'm still VERY concerned about our run-D....especially after that first Raider drive. They marched right down the field on on....only to have JaFatty have the ball slip out of his hand.

If teams can gash us up the middle, and have long sustained drives.....Cutler will be standing on the sideline a lot, if our D can't get off the field.

Am I overreacting?



Ya I felt the same way in the first half, but its still better than it was last year. I think once the D molds together we can improve. Plus, Mcfadden is a pretty good back, and Fargas was running hard (according to Ditka)

By the way, that chick in your picture is smoking hot

[CasinoRoyal]

yeah your over reacting........

take away the 41 yarder when the score was 41-7 and they only had about 110 yards on the ground..........

next.

[Kaylore]

I really wish Lynch was still on the team. Having him in the box would go a long way to making our run defense at least a little more respectable. If he was our first and second down safety I would feel a lot better going into the season.

[DBroncos4life]

...IMO. Sorry to be Debbie Downer after such a great win......but I'm still VERY concerned about our run-D....especially after that first Raider drive. They marched right down the field on on....only to have JaFatty have the ball slip out of his hand.

If teams can gash us up the middle, and have long sustained drives.....Cutler will be standing on the sideline a lot, if our D can't get off the field.

Am I overreacting?

Didn't Fargas have like 170 yards rushing against us in the last game we played? I think it was a good game for the most part. Half of Fargas 95 yards came when we had a 30 point lead.

[alkemical]

I really wish Lynch was still on the team. Having him in the box would go a long way to making our run defense at least a little more respectable. If he was our first and second down safety I would feel a lot better going into the season.

Not me - i'm happy he's gone.

[CasinoRoyal]

I really wish Lynch was still on the team. Having him in the box would go a long way to making our run defense at least a little more respectable. If he was our first and second down safety I would feel a lot better going into the season.

if lynch was on this team we would have lost.

[CasinoRoyal]

Not me - i'm happy he's gone.

:notworthy i agree because lynch is a liability on running and passing downs.

you think he wishes he never left now?

[alkemical]

:notworthy i agree because lynch is a liability on running and passing downs.

you think he wishes he never left now?


I wonder if shanny would have just kept him on for leadership - look i like lynch - i think he's a good guy - but he just got old...and fast.

[Broncosmang]

Wait a minute how in the hell is Lynch a liability on running downs?

[CasinoRoyal]

i love lynch as a person also.....however i dont get to enjoy him as a person because im not around him everyday....

So i gotta go off football moves alone and while hes HOFamer hes done at this point of his career.

i still think we were gonna give him a place on this team.....he felt like he "had alot left"

WELL

[cutthemdown]

Defense has got to get better or LT run for 100 plus no problemo.

[ZONA]

I think it's pretty safe to say that we know the defense is going to be well rested when they take the field since this offense looks like it can do whatever it wants (and it will only get better with Marsh). I thought the run stopping had mixed results. We had quite a few big 3rd and 4th down stuffs in there which was nice to see. But it really seemed like the edges were not defended well against the run. Guys need to get off blocks more.

Hey - on a side not, sure didn't take Nate long to lose that helmet again did it? lol

[SonOfLe-loLang]

I really wish Lynch was still on the team. Having him in the box would go a long way to making our run defense at least a little more respectable. If he was our first and second down safety I would feel a lot better going into the season.

I honestly think that if Shanny thought he could help this team in any way, he wouldnt have let him go. Since when is Mike a sentimentalist?

[CasinoRoyal]

Wait a minute how in the hell is Lynch a liability on running downs?

Probably because he cant get to the ball anymore?

lynch can no longer turn the hips and burst......seen it all throughout training camp and OTAs.......

Sure he can tackle a guy running straight into him at this point...But my gramma can do that also

[gyldenlove]

I think the run D was okay, it wasn't good but it wasn't obviously bad.

The Raiders are a run first team that relies heavily on the run to drive their offense and they do have a couple of good runners. We did have a few bad plays early on, but after the first drive they had, we stopped a lot of runs for less than 2 yards.

I think we will be okay this year, look at the Vikings and thair vaunted run defense, they couldn't stop the packers at all. I think what we did is okay, and with Cutler putting on a show like that, I am not sure we really need to be much better. Teams with more of a passing attack is going to have to try their hand at that, and hopefully that is when our D will stand up and be counted.

[CasinoRoyal]

Was nate and the rest of he LB crew laying some pop last night or what though?? i loved how they filled gaps.....

you can tell there still getting it together but that shyt was amazing for me.

Its like a whole new defensive mentallity.

of c

[Hamrob]

I think we need to watch them over the next two weeks and see what they look like after that.

I agree they didn't look very good last night. The Raiders do have a good running game....but they were very much one dimensional and we still couldn't stop them. The only positive was...that the Raiders only had one really big run. And considering that, if you took the one by Fargus away...then they only would have gotten like 100 yards on us.

So, the sky's not following...but all eyes are watching.

[Irish Stout]

I really wish Lynch was still on the team. Having him in the box would go a long way to making our run defense at least a little more respectable. If he was our first and second down safety I would feel a lot better going into the season.

See the thing is though he wouldn't be our Safety on first and second downs even if he was here. He wouldn't be our starting safety, he wouldn't be NE's starting safety, he wouldn't be SD's starting safety. He might get a job in Miami, but Lynch is obviously past his prime and would more likely than not get burned. That is why Shanny made it as clear as Shanny makes anything that Lynch would only be down on certain packages and thats why Lynch left. NE made it clear he wouldn't be on any packages and thats why he got cut.

I love lynch, but its time to move on and even if he were here, he wouldn't have been an impact player anymore.

[Irish Stout]

The Run D will look better when they put Woodyard in!

[alkemical]

Wait a minute how in the hell is Lynch a liability on running downs?

i love lynch as a person also.....however i dont get to enjoy him as a person because im not around him everyday....

So i gotta go off football moves alone and while hes HOFamer hes done at this point of his career.

i still think we were gonna give him a place on this team.....he felt like he "had alot left"

WELL

I honestly think that if Shanny thought he could help this team in any way, he wouldnt have let him go. Since when is Mike a sentimentalist?

Probably because he cant get to the ball anymore?

lynch can no longer turn the hips and burst......seen it all throughout training camp and OTAs.......

Sure he can tackle a guy running straight into him at this point...But my gramma can do that also



Exactly, his mobility really limited him. Sure his football smarts are high, but what good does that do when you can't get to the guy. (I'm echoing what was already said, but i'm in agreement with Casino.)

[alkemical]

Was nate and the rest of he LB crew laying some pop last night or what though?? i loved how they filled gaps.....

you can tell there still getting it together but that shyt was amazing for me.

Its like a whole new defensive mentallity.

of c

I agree with this as well - it appeared that the team was much more geared to at least having the attitude: "You may get 4yards, but you are going to feel it" - and i loved it.

[Kaylore]

if lynch was on this team we would have lost.

This is total garbage. He was slated to be our starting safety on first and second down. Our safeties had nothing to do with why we won yesterday.

[alkemical]

This is total garbage. He was slated to be our starting safety on first and second down. Our safeties had nothing to do with why we won yesterday.

Dude, it's obvious Lynch is done. There's a reason he asked to be released man....

[Bladerunner]

you are definitely not overreacting...the run D looked very suspect early on in the game and it was a 17 point lead, penalties, and silly sacks that forced the Raiders to only run to avoid making a turnover...

I actually am caveating the whole defense as being aided by the ineptitude of the Raiders. Russel and Curry blew probably 75 yards and 1-3 TDs worth of play action boot passes...they were open, but either dropped or overthrew the ball...better QBs won't do that, to include Philip Rivers...I thought the Raiders could have put 28 against us if they didn't make such stupid errors...

having gotten that off my chest, if this Oline and passing attack plays close to how they did this week, with the addition of Brandon Marshall, this team will win a good number of games this year on pure offense

[Kaylore]

Dude, it's obvious Lynch is done. There's a reason he asked to be released man....

Maybe so, but Ritalin boy suggesting Lynch would have turned the tide for the worst and undone a 41 point thumping is one of the stupidest things I've read on this board.

[alkemical]

Maybe so, but Ritalin boy suggesting Lynch would have turned the tide for the worst and undone a 41 point thumping is one of the stupidest things I've read on this board.

No, not at all. Lynch can't cover ground beyond like 10yds around him. Any of the oakland WR's would have been able to torch him, as well as any of the TE's. If he can't even play for N.E., he's done.

[CasinoRoyal]

This is total garbage. He was slated to be our starting safety on first and second down. Our safeties had nothing to do with why we won yesterday.

Nah this is totally the truth!!!whether you like it or not.

Zach Miller is a pretty athletic tight end......Did you see who chased him all over the field every play? Manuel.......Lynch would not have been able to do that........

Mc cree came flying in many times to stop a big run.......Do u think Lynch woulda been able to do that? NO

The dude woulda costed us a few big plays if we had lynch.

The man is just finished......It happens to everybody.......

Its a shame because i dont remember broncos fans on forums reacting like this when Rod retired.......But when lynch does all hell breaks loose :rofl:

[Kaylore]

No, not at all. Lynch can't cover ground beyond like 10yds around him. Any of the oakland WR's would have been able to torch him, as well as any of the TE's. If he can't even play for N.E., he's done.

He's not that bad. He was going to start for us on running downs. That's our biggest weakness. Our safeties last night weren't why we were in the game. It was our offense and Lynch being on the team wouldn't have changed that.

Mc cree came flying in many times to stop a big run.......Do u think Lynch woulda been able to do that?
Yes, and McCree is an average safety. Manuel had a below average game. Half the time pre-snap he didn't know where he was lining up.

[CasinoRoyal]

Maybe so, but Ritalin boy suggesting Lynch would have turned the tide for the worst and undone a 41 point thumping is one of the stupidest things I've read on this board.

Ehhhh i just be keeping it real man.....

Theres noway lynch woulda been able to motion with miller all night like Manual had to do......

Miller woulda had a field day with lynch ass.

And Lynch would not have been able to tackle fargas or mc fadden because he would not have been able to touch them.

[alkemical]

He's not that bad. He was going to start for us on running downs. That's our biggest weakness. Our safeties last night weren't why we were in the game. It was our offense and Lynch being on the team wouldn't have changed that.


Yes, and McCree is an average safety. Manuel had a below average game. Half the time pre-snap he didn't know where he was lining up.


Ya, then when a team sees lynch in the package, you audible and beat him.

[CasinoRoyal]

He's not that bad. He was going to start for us on running downs. That's our biggest weakness. Our safeties last night weren't why we were in the game. It was our offense and Lynch being on the team wouldn't have changed that.


Yes, and McCree is an average safety. Manuel had a below average game. Half the time pre-snap he didn't know where he was lining up.

you can call mc cree anything you want but he made plays last night that needed to be made.

Manual didnt know where to line up?? What?? he was chasing miller arond the LOS all night long what are u talking about?

[Kaylore]

you can call mc cree anything you want but he made plays last night that needed to be made.

Manual didnt know where to line up?? What?? he was chasing miller arond the LOS all night long what are u talking about?

You clearly weren't watching the game very closely.

You can homer and say every player on our team is awesome and every player who leaves sucks, but that's not the truth. This team has weaknesses and they are at linebacker and safety in that order.

[alkemical]

You clearly weren't watching the game very closely.

You can homer and say every player on our team is awesome and every player who leaves sucks, but that's not the truth. This team has weaknesses and they are at linebacker and safety in that order.

It has nothing to do with homering on this at all - Ya, and we got better letting lynch walk.

[theAPAOps5]

Kaylor I believe the proper terminology is suckz. When discussing who is awesome and who suckz with CasinoRoyal you must end most words with z and use horrid grammer.

[Kaylore]

Ya, then when a team sees lynch in the package, you audible and beat him.

LOL It doesn't work that way, man. The offense doesn't get to audible who covers their players. They have protections and assignments and the down and distance will dictate what they want to do. The defense gets to choose how they react to a play. I usually agree with you, Amesj, but you're way off on this one.

[alkemical]

LOL It doesn't work that way, man. The offense doesn't get to audible who covers their players. They have protections and assignments and the down and distance will dictate what they want to do. The defense gets to choose how they react to a play. I usually agree with you, Amesj, but you're way off on this one.

Ya, whatever man - the only reason you think i'm way off on this one is because you are wrong. It is what it is man.

[Kaylore]

Kaylor I believe the proper terminology is suckz. When discussing who is awesome and who suckz with CasinoRoyal you must end most words with z and use horrid grammer.

:~ohyah!: Well he's wearing out his welcome around here anyway. What is this, his third board?

[Merlin]

LOL It doesn't work that way, man. The offense doesn't get to audible who covers their players.
I'm guessing he meant they change to play from a run play to a pass play or a running play outside the hash marks (although the OLBs should be responsible at that point), making Lynch a liability.

[alkemical]

I'm guessing he meant they change to play from a run play to a pass play or a running play outside the hash marks (although the OLBs should be responsible at that point), making Lynch a liability.

Ding ding ding.

[CasinoRoyal]

LOL It doesn't work that way, man. The offense doesn't get to audible who covers their players. They have protections and assignments and the down and distance will dictate what they want to do. The defense gets to choose how they react to a play. I usually agree with you, Amesj, but you're way off on this one.

actually the teams with good coaches install it in a game plan...

The good QBs will audible and take advantage of mis matches....

[CasinoRoyal]

Kaylor I believe the proper terminology is suckz. When discussing who is awesome and who suckz with CasinoRoyal you must end most words with z and use horrid grammer.

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[bowtown]

you love my style. thats all.

I love your style so much that if I had to choose between voting you, wolf, or bob off the mane, it would be a tough choice, but I think you would eke out the win. Congrats!

[BroncoMan4ever]

Damn, we have turned into the Colts of a few seasons ago.

[CasinoRoyal]

I love your style so much that if I had to choose between voting you, wolf, or bob off the mane, it would be a tough choice, but I think you would eke out the win. Congrats!

you wouldnt possibly vote me off.

im like the coolest dude ever

[Inkana7]

Did you watch the same game I did? Run D was solid save for one run by Fargas in garbage time.

[theAPAOps5]

And the first series. Other than that it was solid.

[CasinoRoyal]

Did you watch the same game I did? Run D was solid save for one run by Fargas in garbage time.

exactly when u take away that 41 yarder in garbage time they only rushed for 110 yards.......

i can deal with giving up 110 a game this year......

last eyar was what? damn near 200 or something

[Inkana7]

And the first series. Other than that it was solid.

Exactly. Very solid. Especially in the middle.

[dEADmANwALKING]

Even Ronald Mcdonald could have scored last night...wtf,short week and a big loss next week..

[gyldenlove]

Damn, we have turned into the Colts of a few seasons ago.

My thought exactly.

[alkemical]

you wouldnt possibly vote me off.

im like the coolest dude ever



Nah, i am. LOL

[dEADmANwALKING]

You call that bad?...wait till next week..CHUMPS TO PUT UP 60!!!CALL BOB AND TELL HIM TO GET OUT OF THE MF CLOSET!

F'K ALL YOU DONKO FUGGERS!

[Inkana7]

....Alright.

[Spider]

....Alright.

LOL believe it or not , this idiot is one of the smarter Butt Charger fans

[alkemical]

You call that bad?...wait till next week..CHUMPS TO PUT UP 60!!!CALL BOB AND TELL HIM TO GET OUT OF THE MF CLOSET!

F'K ALL YOU DONKO FUGGERS!

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg74/jubed/jokes/ATT1395135.jpg

[Wes Mantooth]

Did you watch the same game I did? Run D was solid save for one run by Fargas in garbage time.

Agreed. Saw a much improved unit that did not bite on Play action as they did last year and pursued the runner effectively.

[55CrushEm]

Kaylor I believe the proper terminology is suckz. When discussing who is awesome and who suckz with CasinoRoyal you must end most words with z and use horrid grammer.

No kidding......English only please. He can take that Ebonics bull**** and stuff it up his arse.

:afro: :welcome:

[CasinoRoyal]

No kidding......English only please. He can take that Ebonics bull**** and stuff it up his arse.

:afro: :welcome:

kiss ass.

they teach ebonics in colleges now.

[Kaylore]

I think I just realized that Casino Royal is our own version of Bob. We'll just have to deal with it.

[CasinoRoyal]

I think I just realized that Casino Royal is our own version of Bob. We'll just have to deal with it.

I love this site though and the people.

You guys dont bitch over silly shyt like others.

I may be annoying at times but its all fun. Hilarious!

whose is bob

[55CrushEm]

they teach ebonics in colleges now.

:oyvey: :pity:

[Kaylore]

I love this site though and the people.

You guys dont b**** over silly shyt like others.

I may be annoying at times but its all fun. Hilarious!

whose is bob

You'd like him.

[CasinoRoyal]

:oyvey: :pity:

ROFL!

[CasinoRoyal]

You'd like him.

if hes a bronco i might.

[Kaylore]

if hes a bronco i might.

He's a big Bronco fan. He posts here. "Bob's your information minister."

[jutang]

While the run defense bended at times, Fargus and McFadden are very talented RBs. As much as I like Young and Hall, imagine if we had those two running in the Broncos offense.

What encouraged me the most was some occasional pressure from the Dline. Dumervil made his usual presence felt, but the push up front from DTs made it harder on Russell. Blitz packages were also well timed.

With the Broncos offense looking like they'll score 30 pts a game, the Broncos D weaknesses will be better masked.

[CasinoRoyal]

He's a big Bronco fan. He posts here. "Bob's your information minister."

oh him.......yeah ive seen a few of his post.

[Crushaholic]

One of the few compliments the announcers paid the Broncos is that the linebackers can go sideline to sideline as well as anybody. Our interior D HAS to improve. We did a decent job, but I'm waiting to see a better pattern develop.

[vancejohnson82]

if there is any solution to a weak run defense, its scoring points....

if we can put teams back on their heels on a consistent basis they will be less likely to pound the rock...

[Old Dude]

We'll get a pretty good idea of how much the run defense has improved this Sunday. I'm not sure I'm in a big hurry to find out.

[dbfan21]

...IMO. Sorry to be Debbie Downer after such a great win......but I'm still VERY concerned about our run-D....especially after that first Raider drive. They marched right down the field on on....only to have JaFatty have the ball slip out of his hand.

If teams can gash us up the middle, and have long sustained drives.....Cutler will be standing on the sideline a lot, if our D can't get off the field.

Am I overreacting?

I know I am getting into this conversation late and it might have been stated earlier, but honestly, I am too lazy to read every message carefully.

Anyway, I think the run defense stats are misleading. Oakland had some terrible down & distance situations last night (i.e. 2nd & 17, 3rd & 25, etc) and were backed up to their goalline. So Kiffin called draw plays and runs against a defense that just didn't want to give up the big pass play.

I think the run D looked better than last year and should continue t improve as the season progresses. Just my 2 cents.

[2KBack]

As a point of reference, Denver gave up 4.7 yards per carry in 1997, 4.6 in 2007.

Denvers best defense is a good offense.

[colonelbeef]

As a point of reference, Denver gave up 4.7 yards per carry in 1997, 4.6 in 2007.

Denvers best defense is a good offense.

precisely.

Shanahan dominates the tempo of the game with his offense, and in particular, his OL. It is his signature philosophy. Everybody expecting the run D to improve much more than you saw yesterday in order for the Broncos to be capable of winning doesn't know Mike Shanahan.

[ghwk]

I wasn't that impressed with special teams coverage for most of the game either.

[elsid13]

I wasn't that impressed with special teams coverage for most of the game either.

Expect for the first QTR I thought they tighten up nicely. It is extremely nice to have kicker able to put the ball in the endzone.

[CasinoRoyal]

Yeah after the first quarter special teams was on point.

Watch the whole game next time brother man.