Palin's financial priorities as mayor

[Bronco X]

Here's an article that never mentions Palin, from the year 2000, when Palin was Wasilla's mayor:

http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2000/05/23/news.txt

These passages are interesting:

While the Alaska State Troopers and most municipal police agencies have covered the cost of exams, which cost between $300 to $1,200 apiece, the Wasilla police department does charge the victims of sexual assault for the tests.



Wasilla Police Chief Charlie Fannon does not agree with the new legislation, saying the law will require the city and communities to come up with more funds to cover the costs of the forensic exams.



In the past weve charged the cost of exams to the victims insurance company when possible. I just dont want to see any more burden put on the taxpayer, Fannon said.



According to Fannon, the new law will cost the Wasilla Police Department approximately $5,000 to $14,000 a year to collect evidence for sexual assault cases.



Ultimately it is the criminal who should bear the burden of the added costs, Fannon said.

Are you kidding me? The same town that spent millions on a sports complex?

I'd love to hear an explanation of this...

[Spider]

Here's an article that never mentions Palin, from the year 2000, when Palin was Wasilla's mayor:

http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2000/05/23/news.txt

These passages are interesting:



Are you kidding me? The same town that spent millions on a sports complex?

I'd love to hear an explanation of this...

are you saying Eskimos dont deserve a sports complex ? ;D

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Here's an article that never mentions Palin, from the year 2000, when Palin was Wasilla's mayor:

http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2000/05/23/news.txt

These passages are interesting:



Are you kidding me? The same town that spent millions on a sports complex?

I'd love to hear an explanation of this...

Additionally, as mayor, she took Wasilla (population 5,000) from a balanced budget to 22 million dollars of debt.

Is it any wonder she was subject to a move for recall as Mayor of Wasilla in 1997?

[Bronco X]

I can't be the only one who finds it appalling that the police department was charging woman who came to them with sexual assault charges, especially considering it's a town that freely threw cash around during the Palin years. I mean, they won't add $1400 out of millions they were throwing around to help prosecute rape cases? Unbelievable!

And remember, this was 2000. The police chief was a Palin appointee. She'd already fired the previous one.

Seriously, I want one of the self appointed Palin litigators to take a crack at justifying this.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I can't be the only one who finds it appalling that the police department was charging woman who came to them with sexual assault charges, especially considering it's a town that freely threw cash around during the Palin years. I mean, they won't add $1400 out of millions they were throwing around to help prosecute rape cases? Unbelievable!

And remember, this was 2000. The police chief was a Palin appointee. She'd already fired the previous one.

Seriously, I want one of the self appointed Palin litigators to take a crack at justifying this.

I think the bozos who support this woman are willing to turn a blind eye to the truth about who she really is - just like they did with Bush.

It's a cult of personality.

[MO<1>]

I respect how far Obama supporters keep going to try and find dirt. Is Obama so lacking of substance that his campaign has to make Palin an issue. Police Chiefs are not appointed by mayors, they are hired by the city council and city manager, but then you also blame Bush for everything that Nancy Pelozi and Harry Ried helped engineer. You compound this by adding hateful glee to the end of it. Fantastic job of demonstrating why Obama is dangerous- his supporters continue to misunderstand the real world while continuing inner anger issues.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I respect how far Obama supporters keep going to try and find dirt.

No one has to "find" dirt on Palin - it was right out on front street even before she accepted the VP nomination.

[MO<1>]

No one has to "find" dirt on Palin - it was right out on front street even before she accepted the VP nomination.

That is why Obama sent 30 investigators to Anchorage, to boost the local economy and clean the streets. She would not have been my first choice, but it is amazing how low she has taken the Obama movement.:yayaya:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

That is why Obama sent 30 investigators to Anchorage, to boost the local economy and clean the streets.

Link?

Or do you mean the team of "investigators" Candidate McCheese sent to nip troopergate in the bud before November?


She would not have been my first choice, but it is amazing how low she has taken the Obama movement.:yayaya:

???

Ongoing revelations of Palin's questionable ethics and poor record reflect negatively on the Obama "movement?"

One question: Can you see our solar system from your planet?

[Bronco X]

I respect how far Obama supporters keep going to try and find dirt. Is Obama so lacking of substance that his campaign has to make Palin an issue. Police Chiefs are not appointed by mayors, they are hired by the city council and city manager, but then you also blame Bush for everything that Nancy Pelozi and Harry Ried helped engineer. You compound this by adding hateful glee to the end of it. Fantastic job of demonstrating why Obama is dangerous- his supporters continue to misunderstand the real world while continuing inner anger issues.

Your diversionary rhetoric has failed. I linked an independent source which shows Wasilla charged women who came to them with sexual assault claims. Is that not an issue? Discredit it. Justify it. I'll listen to what you have to say, which is more than you'd ever offer someone you disagree with obviously...

[Garcia Bronco]

Your diversionary rhetoric has failed. I linked an independent source which shows Wasilla charged women who came to them with sexual assault claims. Is that not an issue? Discredit it. Justify it. I'll listen to what you have to say, which is more than you'd ever offer someone you disagree with obviously...

You mean they charged them for the tests? Not charged them with a crime. I don't have a problem with people voting and choosing that. It's their government. You're talking about 5500 people. It's small.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

That is why Obama sent 30 investigators to Anchorage, to boost the local economy and clean the streets. She would not have been my first choice, but it is amazing how low she has taken the Obama movement.:yayaya:

Perhaps McCain should have sent said investigators up to vet her before announcing her as VP

[Rohirrim]

Perhaps McCain should have sent said investigators up to vet her before announcing her as VP

Why? Why would you vet a bobble-head doll? McCain only needs "Lipstick" Palin to sucker in the Fundies (who never stop falling for this trick) and maybe some members of the Dumb Wing of the Disgruntled Hillaryites. If it's enough to get him elected, Lipstick spends the next four years going to dinners and cutting tape at new shopping malls.

[scttgrd]

You mean they charged them for the tests? Not charged them with a crime. I don't have a problem with people voting and choosing that. It's their government. You're talking about 5500 people. It's small.

So you are ok with charging the victim of sexual assault for the forensic kit? But the town really needed a hockey rink for her hockey player son. I guess everyone has priorities. Twisted priorities, but at least your honest about them.

[Bronco X]

You mean they charged them for the tests? Not charged them with a crime. I don't have a problem with people voting and choosing that. It's their government. You're talking about 5500 people. It's small.

Yes, they were charged for the cost for the rape kit tests. Without the rape kit tests, they don't have the evidence to use in court.

I seriously doubt it was voted on, first of all. The article is about the Governor at the time signing a bill making it illegal to bill the victims. Wasilla was the only town noted to practice this.

So it's a small town. A woman there might deserve the financial burden of having to pay for a test to prove it if they've been raped. Because it's small. Not small enough for a $15 million dollar sports complex, but small enough that spending money to prosecute rapists is not warranted. Right.

Hey, at least you made an attempt.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Why? Why would you vet a bobble-head doll? McCain only needs "Lipstick" Palin to sucker in the Fundies (who never stop falling for this trick) and maybe some members of the Dumb Wing of the Disgruntled Hillaryites. If it's enough to get him elected, Lipstick spends the next four years going to dinners and cutting tape at new shopping malls.

QFT.

http://www.bartcop.com/field-dress.jpg

[TailgateNut]

So you are ok with charging the victim of sexual assault for the forensic kit? But the town really needed a hockey rink for her hockey player son. I guess everyone has priorities. Twisted priorities, but at least your honest about them.


Thanks for quoting GB on this one. I have him on ignore for several reasons. One of them, which is shown by this post. A total disregard for what is morally wrong.
To expect a woman who has been the victim of an assault to pay for documentation which may assist in charging and convicting the criminal is an outrage.

I know GB thinks it's ok for adults to have sex with underage girls (as evidenced in many of his previous posts), does he also think rape is ok?
Is it the victims fault?

Is this the direction this country should take?

Reverse Roe vs Wade. (even in the event of rape and incest)
Put women in the kitchen (where they belong)
Celebrate the "pretty face" not the intelligence.

Where are we headed?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Thanks for quoting GB on this one. I have him on ignore for several reasons. One of them, which is shown by this post. A total disregard for what is morally wrong.
To expect a woman who has been the victim of an assault to pay for documentation which may assist in charging and convicting the criminal is an outrage.

I know GB thinks it's ok for adults to have sex with underage girls (as evidenced in many of his previous posts), does he also think rape is ok?
Is it the victims fault?

Is this the direction this country should take?

Reverse Roe vs Wade. (even in the event of rape and incest)
Put women in the kitchen (where they belong)
Celebrate the "pretty face" not the intelligence.

Where are we headed?

Yep - the dude has certainly distinguished himself as a poster boy for arrested moral development.

I remember one of his responses to a question about how governement should respond to people who were having trouble making it was "well, sometimes you just have to thin the roster," or something to that effect.

[Rohirrim]

Thanks for quoting GB on this one. I have him on ignore for several reasons. One of them, which is shown by this post. A total disregard for what is morally wrong.
To expect a woman who has been the victim of an assault to pay for documentation which may assist in charging and convicting the criminal is an outrage.

I know GB thinks it's ok for adults to have sex with underage girls (as evidenced in many of his previous posts), does he also think rape is ok?
Is it the victims fault?

Is this the direction this country should take?

Reverse Roe vs Wade. (even in the event of rape and incest)
Put women in the kitchen (where they belong)
Celebrate the "pretty face" not the intelligence.

Where are we headed?

I guess if the woman doesn't have the money to pay for the rape kit, they drop all charges against the rapist. It speeds along the wheels of justice. Besides, you can't waste money on **** like this when Governor Lipstick needs her per diem.

[TailgateNut]

I guess if the woman doesn't have the money to pay for the rape kit, they drop all charges against the rapist. It speeds along the wheels of justice. Besides, you can't waste money on **** like this when Governor Lipstick needs her per diem.

I just don't understand what positives this woman brings to the ticket, aside from drawing the "MILF" vote.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I just don't understand what positives this woman brings to the ticket, aside from drawing the "MILF" vote.

This is what she brings:

The return of the culture wars!

Rove knows the only way the repigs can win is with wedge politics - and gramps just didn't have the right anti-abortion/pro-gun redneck credentials to rally the troops.

[TailgateNut]

This is what she brings:

The return of the culture wars!

Rove knows the only way the repigs can win is with wedge politics - and gramps just didn't have the right anti-abortion/pro-gun redneck credentials to rally the troops.

So this time they've reversed roles? The VP candidate talks with God and the Presidential candidate has a temper.

[Rohirrim]

At this point in American history the Right feels that the most important issues for us to discuss are abortion and gay marriage. Same as it ever was.

[TailgateNut]

At this point in American history the Right feels that the most important issues for us to discuss are abortion and gay marriage. Same as it ever was.

...you forgot "lowering taxes" for their base/ err: contributors.

[DenverBrit]

At this point in American history the Right feels that the most important issues for us to discuss are abortion and gay marriage. Same as it ever was.

That fact alone should disqualify them as candidates.
Those are PERSONAL issues and government has no business dictating our personal lives.
I'm afraid that they will spend too much time manipulating the Supreme Court to get Rose vs Wade overturned.

Dammit, it's the economy, war, healthcare, taxes etc. that I want to hear about.
They need to play God on their own time.
But the country is full of religious zealots who believe they have the right to dictate to everyone else what their private beliefs aught to be.
Keep it to yourselves!!

[TailgateNut]

That fact alone should disqualify them as candidates.
Those are PERSONAL issues and government has no business dictating our personal lives.
I'm afraid that they will spend too much time manipulating the Supreme Court to get Rose vs Wade overturned.

Dammit, it's the economy, war, healthcare, taxes etc. that I want to hear about.
They need to play God on their own time.
But the country is full of religious zealots who believe they have the right to dictate to everyone else what their private beliefs aught to be.
Keep it to yourselves!!


Yank their tax free status and they'll STFU!

[DenverBrit]

Yank their tax free status and they'll STFU!

Man, I'm with you there.
How many billions in real estate and revenue do these snake oil salesmen take off the tax roles?
Their beliefs should be no more 'Tax Free' than mine.

[MO<1>]

That fact alone should disqualify them as candidates.
Those are PERSONAL issues and government has no business dictating our personal lives.
I'm afraid that they will spend too much time manipulating the Supreme Court to get Rose vs Wade overturned.

Dammit, it's the economy, war, healthcare, taxes etc. that I want to hear about.
They need to play God on their own time.
But the country is full of religious zealots who believe they have the right to dictate to everyone else what their private beliefs aught to be.
Keep it to yourselves!!

DB,
Who started this rant about what the Police Chief decided on forensic kits and tried to tie them to Palin. Then a incorrect post said she appointed the Chief instead of the City Council hiring him. No mayor appoints the Chief of Police. You ignored that, because you only want to discuss real issues.
I agree with on three points:
1. You are focused too much on personal issues.
2. Abortion and gay marriage are not issues for the federal government to decide.
3. You need to hear more about real issues, specifically how American civics function and how they apply to economics, war, taxes, etc.

I sincerely hope you can get more information on the issues than the current cartoons, namecalling, youtube videos, are currently providing before the polls open. Please keep voicing your opinion for the illumination of real issues, not what how some Police Chief decided to include in his budget as a ploy to get increased funding.

[Bronco X]

DB,
Who started this rant about what the Police Chief decided on forensic kits and tried to tie them to Palin. Then a incorrect post said she appointed the Chief instead of the City Council hiring him. No mayor appoints the Chief of Police.

Palin was the mayor. They had to sign a bill at the state level to get Wasilla in line on this. If this thing got to the Governor before it got to the mayor of the town involved, why was the mayor sleeping on it? I thought her experience as Wasilla's mayor was part of her "executive experience". Yet either she was sleeping or condoning a practice that even the most buck-toothed backwards hick town would be above.

I can't confirm who hired this police chief, however it is undisputed FACT that Palin had fired the previous police chief in 1997.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/702/
http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/510219.html

And in 2000, there was a police chief that wanted to bill victims of rape. If she was fired the previous one because he didn't "support" her, this must have been her guy.

Palin needs to stand up and answer for these things, and her handlers won't let her.

[MO<1>]

Palin was the mayor. They had to sign a bill at the state level to get Wasilla in line on this. If this thing got to the Governor before it got to the mayor of the town involved, why was the mayor sleeping on it? I thought her experience as Wasilla's mayor was part of her "executive experience". Yet either she was sleeping or condoning a practice that even the most buck-toothed backwards hick town would be above.

I can't confirm who hired this police chief, however it is undisputed FACT that Palin had fired the previous police chief in 1997.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/702/
http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/510219.html

And in 2000, there was a police chief that wanted to bill victims of rape. If she was fired the previous one because he didn't "support" her, this must have been her guy.

Palin needs to stand up and answer for these things, and her handlers won't let her.

Wow, who was sleeping when American Civics was being taught. How many "victims" were actually involved? There is no credible evidence that besides being a feeble attempt to keep Palin from "hijacking" the presidency for McCain, that it was anything other than a Chief of Police using his freedom of speech to increase his budget. Bud did you say the "Town of Wasilla" fired the previous Chief of Police for wanting to bill rape victims? I think this even less important than not answering why you hang out with Jim Johnson or Dick Fuld.

[Bronco X]

Wow, who was sleeping when American Civics was being taught. How many "victims" were actually involved? There is no credible evidence that besides being a feeble attempt to keep Palin from "hijacking" the presidency for McCain, that it was anything other than a Chief of Police using his freedom of speech to increase his budget. Bud did you say the "Town of Wasilla" fired the previous Chief of Police for wanting to bill rape victims? I think this even less important than not answering why you hang out with Jim Johnson or Dick Fuld.

I never said the Chief of Police was fired for wanting to bill rape victims, but I'm sure if you lobotomize yourself before you read it might be possible to think I wrote that. He should have been, but wasn't. The PREVIOUS Chief of Police was fired for not supporting Palin. The one who refused to spend money to collect evidence to prosecute rapists stayed. The practice of billing rape victims continued until a state law ended it.

[MO<1>]

Palin was the mayor. And in 2000, there was a police chief that wanted to bill victims of rape. If she was fired the previous one because he didn't "support" her, this must have been her guy.

Palin needs to stand up and answer for these things, and her handlers won't let her.

You didn't what? How can others understand you if even you don't? Have you found any statistics on how many victims were billed? It would be very illuminating to see that. I really think those make these allegations should illuminate just where they get their information. :thumbs:

Is this data from the same Obama supporter in Idaho that admitted to make up false blogs and how the devil created dinosaurs for us to burn in our pickups?^5

[Bronco X]

You didn't what? How can others understand you if even you don't? Have you found any statistics on how many victims were billed? It would be very illuminating to see that. I really think those make these allegations should illuminate just where they get their information. :thumbs:

Is this data from the same Obama supporter in Idaho that admitted to make up false blogs and how the devil created dinosaurs for us to burn in our pickups?^5

A picture of everyone who taught you how to read:
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5963/facepalmth2.jpg

[MO<1>]

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Palin was the mayor. And in 2000, there was a police chief that wanted to bill victims of rape. If she was fired the previous one because he didn't "support" her, this must have been her guy.

Palin needs to stand up and answer for these things, and her handlers won't let her.
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Statistics? I won't stoop to make fun of those dedicated educators that tried to teach you how to write concise and reveleant statements, but I am appreciative of those that strive to enrich the lives of others.

Will you try again, or are you done? Somebody said it was great to see a Dem with backbone? I have yet to see any on this board post with accountability or backbone.

What did Hillary supporters say today, "calling girls names is something you do in 5th grade."

[Bronco X]

What did Hillary supporters say today, "calling girls names is something you do in 5th grade."

You're calling me out for name calling? You?!?! Wow.

Okay then, let's cut the crap out. I'm challenging you to have an intelligent debate about this without name calling. Are you capable of doing that? If you can't, I won't continue with this.

Statistics are irrelevant. If one woman is raped a year, and the town is unwilling to front the cost of doing forensics tests that would collect evidence, that is appalling. We're talking about something needed to investigate the crime. If someone had their house broken into, things stolen, would it be appropriate for the police to charge the home owner for the gas the department has to spend driving around squad cars to investigate?

Sarah Palin fired a Police Chief for not supporting her in 1997. Therefore, it can be directly inferred that she approved of Police Chief Charlie Fannon, who served in 2000, as she would have fired him if she didn't approve of the job he'd been doing. Charlie Fannon is quoted in the article from the Frontiersman.

The Frontiersman, linked in this thread, is a newspaper from Wasilla, Alaska, not a blog.

Sarah Palin was mayor in 2000. It is her civic duty as mayor to deal with issues like this going on in her town. It's known she was willing to spend tax money on things like sports complex. Much much more money than it would have cost the police department to collect evidence on sexual assaults.

This issue went all the way to the Governor. A bill had to be passed to get Wasilla to stop billing victims for forensic tests. Palin HAD to know about it. If she didn't, what kind of mayor was she that she was not privy to civic issues relevant to her town? If she had an interest in changing this practice, it was absolutely within the authority of a mayor to press to make the changes.

Palin should stand before the media and address this issue.

[Garcia Bronco]

Thanks for quoting GB on this one. I have him on ignore for several reasons. One of them, which is shown by this post. A total disregard for what is morally wrong.
To expect a woman who has been the victim of an assault to pay for documentation which may assist in charging and convicting the criminal is an outrage.

I know GB thinks it's ok for adults to have sex with underage girls (as evidenced in many of his previous posts), does he also think rape is ok?
Is it the victims fault?

Is this the direction this country should take?

Reverse Roe vs Wade. (even in the event of rape and incest)
Put women in the kitchen (where they belong)
Celebrate the "pretty face" not the intelligence.

Where are we headed?


You're an idiot. I never said any of that **** fat one. Quit harassing me. Having me on ignore means you ignore me, not slander me. Next time you do it I'll inform your job of your wasted time spent on the internet making threats, and if you think I am kidding...try me. And I know where you work Leo.

[Garcia Bronco]

Yes, they were charged for the cost for the rape kit tests. Without the rape kit tests, they don't have the evidence to use in court.

I seriously doubt it was voted on, first of all. The article is about the Governor at the time signing a bill making it illegal to bill the victims. Wasilla was the only town noted to practice this.

So it's a small town. A woman there might deserve the financial burden of having to pay for a test to prove it if they've been raped. Because it's small. Not small enough for a $15 million dollar sports complex, but small enough that spending money to prosecute rapists is not warranted. Right.

Hey, at least you made an attempt.

First off, you mean alleged rapists. You are assuming guilt before trial and then using that to emotionally fuel your disdain. It's the "alleged victim's" evidence to present their case. I don't have a problem with it. It's a 300 to 1200 hundred dollar charge. It's not hundreds of thousands of dollars. Further more it's their right to govern their town. Unless you live in Wasilla. It's none of your business.

[NaptownChief]

They voted on charging for rape kits in Illinois and Obama voted "Present".

[Spider]

First off, you mean alleged rapists. You are assuming guilt before trial and then using that to emotionally fuel your disdain. It's the "alleged victim's" evidence to present their case. I don't have a problem with it. It's a 300 to 1200 hundred dollar charge. It's not hundreds of thousands of dollars. Further more it's their right to govern their town. Unless you live in Wasilla. It's none of your business.

LOL there is Bull**** , then there is Garcia's level of bull****

[Garcia Bronco]

LOL there is Bull**** , then there is Garcia's level of bull****

How so?

[Rohirrim]

They voted on charging for rape kits in Illinois and Obama voted "Present".

Or could it be you are lying through your teeth?

"According to the Sexual Assault Emergency Treatment Act, the Illinois Department of Public Aid will reimburse the costs of ER treatment if you do not have public aid or private medical insurance. Under the Illinois Crime Victims Compensation Act, if you report the assault to the police within 72 hours of the crime and if you file a claim application within two years of the date of the crime, you can be reimbursed for out-of-pocket medical expenses, loss of earnings, psychological counseling, and loss of support income due to the crime. Reimbursement can be up to $27,000." One of six sponsors: Barack Obama

You should be ashamed of yourself, McCain padawan.

[Spider]

How so?

First off , the victim doesnt bring forth the evidence , thats the law enforcement deal , the DA decides if there is enough evidence to warrant a trail ,of alleged perp .........
No victim anywhere has to pay to have evidence brought forth , and for rape ? charging the alleged vic ....... naw thats ****ed up , you are not as stupid as you pretend to be ........Do you realize in Palins world , the poor wouldnt get any justice ?
rape a poor chick , they cant afford the kit .......****ed up dude

[MO<1>]

Sen Feinstein (D Cal) said today that Obama has raised the campaign to a level of absurdity. She said all the smearing is to escape the real issues. I specifically enjoy the left comment that statistics are irrevalent. How about throwing in some comments from the great SC orator Fowler? For once, I endorse the opion of Sen Feinstein.

[Garcia Bronco]

First off , the victim doesnt bring forth the evidence , thats the law enforcement deal , the DA decides if there is enough evidence to warrant a trail ,of alleged perp .........
No victim anywhere has to pay to have evidence brought forth , and for rape ? charging the alleged vic ....... naw thats ****ed up , you are not as stupid as you pretend to be ........Do you realize in Palins world , the poor wouldnt get any justice ?
rape a poor chick , they cant afford the kit .......****ed up dude

They are making an charge. If I charge you with a crime, I must produce evidence. It doesn't mean the state should pay for it. It's not something I would do personally as an administrator, but I don't have a problem with it. If it was really done to you, put your money on the line.

[Spider]

They are making an charge. If I charge you with a crime, I must produce evidence. It doesn't mean the state should pay for it. It's not something I would do personally as an administrator, but I don't have a problem with it. If it was really done to you, put your money on the line.
Bull**** ,In rape cases .. you steal my stereo is one thing , I provide the police with make , model ,serial # car same way , bu rape ? good grief

[Spider]

So GB , in your world do gun shot victims need to pay before Charges can be brought ?
Stabbin victims ?
Someone involved in a hit and run ?
Assault ?

[MO<1>]

Bull**** ,In rape cases .. you steal my stereo is one thing , I provide the police with make , model ,serial # car same way , bu rape ? good grief

Once again, there were no people affected by this absurdity.

[Garcia Bronco]

So GB , in your world do gun shot victims need to pay before Charges can be brought ?
Stabbin victims ?
Someone involved in a hit and run ?
Assault ?

They do pay their own medical costs. What's your point?

[MO<1>]

They do pay their own medical costs. What's your point?

GB- They mean do they have to pay for services rendered as covered by medical insurance? Can't they just go to the emergency room and then skip the bill?

[Rohirrim]

So, GB, I take it you are arguing that if the rape victim cannot afford the medical expense of a rape kit, the perp walks?

[Spider]

They do pay their own medical costs. What's your point?

No they dont , in several cases victims compensation funds kick in .. but you would be asking a gun shot victim to pay for the ballistics test etc ...... it is absurd

[Spider]

Once again, there were no people affected by this absurdity.

Do yourself a favor , put me on ignore ,No such thing as a victimless crime you .......err never mind the insult

[Garcia Bronco]

GB- They mean do they have to pay for services rendered as covered by medical insurance? Can't they just go to the emergency room and then skip the bill?

I would assume so. That's between the Hospital and the patient. Government shouldn't be in the business of covering medical costs, IMO.

[Garcia Bronco]

No they dont , in several cases victims compensation funds kick in .. but you would be asking a gun shot victim to pay for the ballistics test etc ...... it is absurd

Ballistic tests costs around 50 dollars per sample.

[MO<1>]

So, GB, I take it you are arguing that if the rape victim cannot afford the medical expense of a rape kit, the perp walks?

The bill doesn't come until after the service is performed. I don't think Deputy Fife oversees the forensics kit only after getting paid. Those out of touch might think it would be proper procedure, but it would be extremely poor forensic procedure even in LA. Defense Attorneys would love to have an unqualifed non-medical person collect sexual assault evidence. I imagine that since rape is a felony crime controlled by superior court, this evidence collection would be beyond the mayor of a municipality, but would fall under the purview of the District Attorney. So if you are still trying to say Palin was responsiblity, let's talk about Mario Cuomo!

[Garcia Bronco]

So, GB, I take it you are arguing that if the rape victim cannot afford the medical expense of a rape kit, the perp walks?

I feel confident that a private company could get funding for them. Again, it's not something I would do, but I don't have a problem with it.

[Spider]

Ballistic tests costs around 50 dollars per sample.

and ........... what in the hell does that have to do with the victim being charged that 50.00 ?

[Garcia Bronco]

and ........... what in the hell does that have to do with the victim being charged that 50.00 ?

Well, you are comparing apples and oranges. Yeah, they are both fruit, but from there there are various differences. A charge of rape may have happened or may not have. A bullet in someone's chest kinda proves that a crime was committed. Again, it's not something I would do, but I don't have a problem with the people of Wasilla voting to do this.

[MO<1>]

Do yourself a favor , put me on ignore ,No such thing as a victimless crime you .......err never mind the insult

Wow- another liberal slip up.

Find me one District Attorney or police department that has acutally charged for an investigation. That doesn't mean ambulance call.

Then explain why Illegal Immigration, Prostitution, and Gambling are labeled as victimless crimes by the left?

Sexual assault is a very horrendous crime- without a doubt. The left celebrated great victory this year when the US Supreme Court ruled that we had evolved past executing rapists. This is another progressive idea, that the constitution needs to evolve with society.

Spider- I appreciate your views when you moderate degenerate language.

[Spider]

Wow- another liberal slip up.

Find me one District Attorney or police department that has acutally charged for an investigation. That doesn't mean ambulance call.

Then explain why Illegal Immigration, Prostitution, and Gambling are labeled as victimless crimes by the left?

Sexual assault is a very horrendous crime- without a doubt. The left celebrated great victory this year when the US Supreme Court ruled that we had evolved past executing rapists. This is another progressive idea, that the constitution needs to evolve with society.

Spider- I appreciate your views when you moderate degenerate language.
Wassilla Alaska , the rape kit ....... Prostitution big question as if that should even be a crime , cant tax pussy , for example , if I put dyed diesel in my rig , My fine is 100,000 $ , 1 year in prison and the only difference in dyed fuel and regular fuel ? dyed fuel is used for off road so there is a tax cut .. the only difference ..... Gambling is not a crime