Stand up for Sarah Palin and be counted

[Bronco Yoda]

If you're all the way behind Sarah Palin for V.P. and think she'd make a fine President in case of (God forbid) a catastrophic Illness by President McCain stand up here and be counted.

Please share your reasons and enthusiasm.

[Crushaholic]

OK, I will. She seems very "no-nonsense" and isn't a Washington insider (like McCain, ironically). I wouldn't mind at all if the ticket was switched around...

[sisterhellfyre]

Please share your reasons and enthusiasm.

You're kidding, right?

Right?

You're not?

Oh sh**.

Regards,
m.

[Needa Pass Rush]

OK, I will. She seems very "no-nonsense" and isn't a Washington insider (like McCain, ironically). I wouldn't mind at all if the ticket was switched around...

You want your inexperience on the top of the ticket like the Democrats? ??? ;)

[Crushaholic]

You want your inexperience on the top of the ticket like the Democrats? ??? ;)

Ah, good point...ROFL!

The point still stands that not being a D.C. dweller is a good thing.

[Bronco Yoda]

OK, I will. She seems very "no-nonsense" and isn't a Washington insider (like McCain, ironically). I wouldn't mind at all if the ticket was switched around...

Thanks Crush. I respect your personal choice as well as others. It's good to hear everyones views and opinions without ugly personal attacks against each other.

I'm truly interested in how many here really like this V.P. choice and why. She's such an unknown but has captivated so many so fast. It's hard to really get a true reading from the media and all these polls.

I myself have a few friends and family back home in my small town I grew up in Colorado who like her for a wide range of reasons.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You want your inexperience on the top of the ticket like the Democrats? ??? ;)

Repeat a lie often enough....

(Especially when it makes a good five second sound bite.)

The only strategy the republi-cons have.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

OK, I will. She seems very "no-nonsense" and isn't a Washington insider (like McCain, ironically). I wouldn't mind at all if the ticket was switched around...
So you believe her lying is cool, getting her marching orders for war from "God" and we should be teaching "Intelligent Design" in public schools........................................... ...great!

[Needa Pass Rush]

Repeat a lie often enough....

(Especially when it makes a good five second sound bite.)

The only strategy the libri-cons have.

It's called the LABF model. Thanks for being predictable. :thumbsup:

[Needa Pass Rush]

........

I'm truly interested in how many here really like this V.P. choice and why. She's such an unknown but has captivated so many so fast. It's hard to really get a true reading from the media and all these polls.
....................




Yoda, you should start a similar poll using Obama's name. What do we really know about Obama that hasn't been carefully crafted and presented by a frothy and one-minded elitist media?

You may already know more about Palin then you do Obama.

[TailgateNut]

OK, I will. She seems very "no-nonsense" and isn't a Washington insider (like McCain, ironically). I wouldn't mind at all if the ticket was switched around...

Holy shiate! I think I saw a soccer mom at the traffic light who would also make a wonderful prez.:giggle:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

It's called the LABF model. Thanks for being predictable. :thumbsup:

Typical third-grade "I am rubber - you are glue" response.

The radical right doesn't have much more than this left in the tank.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Yoda, you should start a similar poll using Obama's name. What do we really know about Obama that hasn't been carefully crafted and presented by a frothy and one-minded elitist media?


(Read: Not in lockstep with Rehab Rush, newsmax.com, and freerepublic.com.)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Holy shiate! I think I saw a soccer mom at the traffic light who would also make a wonderful prez.:giggle:

Ha!

The rethugs could just as easily have chosen Soledad O'Brian or Paula Zahn or any other bobble head with a broadcasting degree who could read from a teleprompter and look cute.

In fact, maybe that was the idea.

After all, republican politicians are just puppets who read lines written for them by the oil companies anyway.

[TailgateNut]

Ha!

The rethugs could just as easily have chosen Soledad O'Brian or Paula Zahn or any other bobble head with a broadcasting degree who could read from a teleprompter and look cute.

In fact, maybe that was the idea.

She needs to be exposed for the Lying **** she is. We don't need another vindictive bitch in the WH. See: Cheney and Bush (cut from the same branch as Palin). The "my way or the highway" method of running this country has to come to an immediate halt.

The republicans see a pretty face who spews their talking points (Tax-cuts, War, Drilling, etc...) and they proceed to cream in their Dockers. Talk about a gullible and uninformed bunch.

[ant1999e]

Thanks Crush. I respect your personal choice as well as others. It's good to hear everyones views and opinions without ugly personal attacks against each other.


Well so much for that.

[TailgateNut]

Sorry creampuff, but after eight years of this crap, the gloves are off. Republicans are on my ****-list.
No contracts on my projects, no invitations to my tailgaters, no pissing on them if they are on fire.
I'm sick of our country being run into the gutter by a bunch of clueless anti-american greedy swine.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Sorry creampuff, but after eight years of this crap, the gloves are off. Republicans are on my ****-list.
No contracts on my projects, no invitations to my tailgaters, no pissing on them if they are on fire.
I'm sick of our country being run into the gutter by a bunch of clueless anti-american greedy swine.

+1

Hopefully those criminal slimebags go the way of the Whigs after this November.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

She needs to be exposed for the Lying **** she is.

Palin In '06: I Won't Let "Spinmeisters" Turn Bridge To Nowhere Into "Something Negative" (http://www.buzzflash.net/story.php?id=68525)

Palin Cut Funding for Alaska’s Special Needs Children by 60 Percent 9/7 (http://www.buzzflash.net/story.php?id=68337)

As Mayor, ‘Hard-Core Fiscal Conservative’ Sarah Palin Left Wasilla $20 Million In Debt 9/7 (http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/09/03/wasilla-in-debt/)

Fairbanks News-Miner: Alaskan Budget Increased Dramatically Under Palin, Natch. 9/7 (http://newsminer.com/news/2008/sep/06/palins-budget-cuts-warrant-closer-scrutiny/)

Robert Parry: Ripping a page from George W. Bush’s playbook on obstructing investigations, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her senior aides are maneuvering to thwart an abuse-of-power investigation that Palin initially vowed to assist. 9/7 (http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/090608.html)

[davidtkd]

Hey Yoda, this has the making of an interesting thread. How about you tell me why I should vote for McCain/Palin. I am interested in why you think she is qualified for the job. I am not interested in hearing 'well Obama isn't qualified', it looks as if there is already a thread for that. Let's stay focused and hear why she is a good pick.

[Garcia Bronco]

Repeat a lie often enough....

(Especially when it makes a good five second sound bite.)

The only strategy the republi-cons have.

Obama is the least experienced person of the 4.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Obama is the least experienced person of the 4.

:oyvey:

OK - when I said "repeat a lie" I wasn't exhorting you to do it.

[Rohirrim]

Someday, Sarah Palin will be regarded as the political equivalent of the Yugo.

[TailgateNut]

Someday, Sarah Palin will be regarded as the political equivalent of the Yugo.

LOL LOL LOL

Damn, you just made me cough up a chunk of egg!
Damn you!^5

[Rohirrim]

Obama is the least experienced person of the 4.

Let's compare the wiki educational bios of each candidate:

Here's Obama's:

A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review, Obama worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. Following an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000, he announced his campaign for the U.S. Senate in January 2003. After a primary victory in March 2004, Obama delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote.

Here's Palin's:

In 1984, Palin won the Miss Wasilla Pageant, then finished second in the Miss Alaska pageant, at which she won a college scholarship and the "Miss Congeniality" award. Palin admits to smoking marijuana as a youth, during the time Alaska had decriminalized possession, though she says she did not enjoy it. Palin spent her first college semester at Hawaii Pacific College, transferring in 1983 to North Idaho College and then to the University of Idaho. She attended Matanuska-Susitna College in Alaska for one term, returning to the University of Idaho to complete her Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism, graduating in 1987. In 1988, she worked as a sports reporter for KTUU-TV in Anchorage, Alaska.

[Play2win]

I, for one, would be ecstatic if we went from someone who thought that the Constitution of the United States was just another damn piece of paper (BUSH)... to some who actually taught Constitutional Law (Obama)...

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I, for one, would be ecstatic if we went from someone who thought that the Constitution of the United States was just another damn piece of paper (BUSH)... to some who actually taught Constitutional Law (Obama)...

+1

As would any sane, sensible, or intelligent person.

By analogy, if I'm looking for a primary care physician, I'll choose the guy who graduated with honors from a top-tier medical school over some quack who has questionable academic credentials and a spotty reputation every time.

Unfortunately, Palin appeals to the willfully ignorant, anti-intellectual demographic because, like GeeDubya, she is a reflection of themselves.

[Meck77]

Sorry creampuff, but after eight years of this crap, the gloves are off. Republicans are on my ****-list.
No contracts on my projects, no invitations to my tailgaters, no pissing on them if they are on fire.
I'm sick of our country being run into the gutter by a bunch of clueless anti-american greedy swine.

Welcome to the tailgate! Please present your voter registration card. Mike Shanahan is on fire! Who cares!;)

[socalorado]

Its too late guys! She has the country in the palm of her hand!
I swear, you just cant write this stuff any better! I cant believe that people buy this stuff.
Highlighted area is why shes doing so well, and its working to perfection.
un-freakin-real.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-ig-notebook7-2008sep07,0,7585060.story
Sarah Palin's style: the issue at hand
WHAT TO do about the war, what to do about the economy, what to do about those rimless glasses and that saucy updo? Style has never been more important than it is in this election. That's not just because this high-stakes political contest is being watched by a tabloid and celebrity-obsessed culture. It's also because this election now has so many powerful women on the national stage who are putting their message across with vastly different style strategies.

[DenverBrit]

Great!
What this country needs is a VP....or President who, is a religious zealot, bans books, lies, is under investigation, doesn't give a sh*t about the environment,
comes from a 'guns first' state, supports big oil, thinks God is blessing the war in Iraq and who's greatest achievement was coming second in a Miss Alaska pageant.

Aren't we trying to get rid of that type of White House?? ???

[socalorado]

Great!
What this country needs is a VP....or President who, is a religious zealot, bans books, lies, is under investigation, doesn't give a sh*t about the environment,
comes from a 'guns first' state, supports big oil, thinks God is blessing the war in Iraq and who's greatest achievement was coming second in a Miss Alaska pageant.

Aren't we trying to get rid of that type of White House?? ???

It doesnt matter bro, its a "britney spears" nation!
The success of this girl PROVES this!

[MO<1>]

Ban's books? Any proof? It was those patriots with guns and thier faith that started this republic. Those posters who think their are intellectual but most often accuse any conflicting arguement as "lies" are not who they think they are. The DNC legislative leadership is very comparable to a tyranical bully. Why are you miserable? Ask Nancy Pelosi what she and her counterparts are accountable for.

Einstein says that when you keep doing the same thing and getting the same results, it is insanity. End the insanity, let's get fresh faces into our leadership.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Ban's books? Any proof? It was those patriots with guns and thier faith that started this republic. Those posters who think their are intellectual but most often accuse any conflicting arguement as "lies" are not who they think they are. The DNC legislative leadership is very comparable to a tyranical bully. Why are you miserable? Ask Nancy Pelosi what she and her counterparts are accountable for.

Einstein says that when you keep doing the same thing and getting the same results, it is insanity. End the insanity, let's get fresh faces into our leadership.

http://cdn.overstock.com/images/products/L11048286.jpg

[DenverBrit]

Ban's books? Any proof? It was those patriots with guns and thier faith that started this republic. Those posters who think their are intellectual but most often accuse any conflicting arguement as "lies" are not who they think they are. The DNC legislative leadership is very comparable to a tyranical bully. Why are you miserable? Ask Nancy Pelosi what she and her counterparts are accountable for.

Einstein says that when you keep doing the same thing and getting the same results, it is insanity. End the insanity, let's get fresh faces into our leadership.

Exactly! Get rid of the liars and religious zealots.

That was your point....right??

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Ban's books? Any proof?


[Former Mayor John] Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/jacketcopy/2008/09/sarah-palin-ban.html

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837918,00.html

[Hogan11]

She's very conservative on social issues...that is enough for me to show her the door and vote Obama. I will vote against and do whatever I can to fight that wing of the GOP from ever sniffing power again.

[TailgateNut]

Welcome to the tailgate! Please present your voter registration card. Mike Shanahan is on fire! Who cares!;)


Lay off the MD20-20 for a few days!:wiggle:

[Hogan11]

Sorry creampuff, but after eight years of this crap, the gloves are off. Republicans are on my ****-list.
No contracts on my projects, no invitations to my tailgaters, no pissing on them if they are on fire.
I'm sick of our country being run into the gutter by a bunch of clueless anti-american greedy swine.

Cool...I'm still welcome to stop by then I take it?

[MO<1>]

[Former Mayor John] Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/jacketcopy/2008/09/sarah-palin-ban.html

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837918,00.html

Former Mayor John C. Stein thinks Palin is evil and turned the electorate against him. She convince them that he was wasteful and lowered their taxes to the point that the town almost double in size and the economy boomed. Mary Ellen Baker could not be reached by the fair minded LA Times and Times magazine but is attributed in the article neverless.

If you never look at all sides, then your universe will never expand.

[Garcia Bronco]

Here's Obama's:

A junior Senator and former State Senator.

Here's Palin's:

A Govenor and former Mayor

Which one has executive experience.

[TailgateNut]

Cool...I'm still welcome to stop by then I take it?

Of Course!

To date, only a few have made the "**** list", and they know who they are. They also happen to reside on my "iggy" list.;)

BTW: when are you comin' out to visit and watch the Bronco kick ass?

[Hogan11]

Of Course!

To date, only a few have made the "**** list", and they know who they are. They also happen to reside on my "iggy" list.;)

BTW: when are you comin' out to visit and watch the Bronco kick ass?

Thanks Man, We're coming out for the Saints game...I'll be by with Sassy at some point.

[Bronco Yoda]

Hey Yoda, this has the making of an interesting thread. How about you tell me why I should vote for McCain/Palin. I am interested in why you think she is qualified for the job. I am not interested in hearing 'well Obama isn't qualified', it looks as if there is already a thread for that. Let's stay focused and hear why she is a good pick.

I personally DO NOT think she's qualified. But thats JMO. Furthermore on a personal level... she grates my nerves on so many levels.

I presented this thread in a positive way as to hopefully get honest opinions in a non confrontational atmosphere.... and without having it diluted down to comparing her against anyone else but by her own merits.

Frankly I'm mystified and dumbfounded by how quickly she's been so well received and by so many. But I'm interested in other viewpoints. Quite frankly, I'm hoping to hear better reasons here for the case of Palin than I've been given by friends and family back in my old small town stomping grounds.

[Rohirrim]

Hell, I'll stand up for Sarah. Or sit in a chair, or a sofa, or lie down... whatever she wants. :wiggle:

[Bronco Yoda]

She does have the naughty librarian look down spot on! (and I mean this in a good way :) )

[Bob]

I like her -- much more than McCain -- I havent seen her legislate long enough to distrust her yet, we (the right) all hope she is the real deal. She might be. Maybe with time she can proove it on a broader stage. She has stood up to a few corrupt folks, and stood up to the media with a few jabs -- she actually said the "G" word which the liberal anti-freedom of religion folks around here hate -- so that's another plus. I just look at all of the folks from P-Diddy to the clown from MSNBC -- who cant hide their hate -- which for me is a plus -- because they also seem to also hate America, our traditions and culture. If the R's win -- the Dems will only have themselves to blame -- all they have to do is get a middle of the road guy/gal to run -- why in the hell do they keep on trying to pass off folks like Kerry, Obama, or Biden as just like one of us and mainstream? Obama can barely stand most Americans, with thier guns, faith and love of country ... and it shows.

I didnt like Bill Clinton's immorality -- put he was not a complete whack job in terms of policies -- I liked what he was doing in most cases, but Obama and those he has hung with are bigots (Wright) or worse -- like Aires who actively fought against our country. IF it turns out that America just looks at the issues -- Obama is going to be beat, and you can blame it on bigotry if you wish and cry foul -- and with Code Pink screach impeach! But stop think,and learn from your past mistakes and next time get someone who doesnt look to the European model for his policies, and think that your grandparents values and love of country are outdated.

[Bob]

Here's Obama's:

A junior Senator and former State Senator.

Here's Palin's:

A Govenor and former Mayor

Which one has executive experience.

In my mind they have simular levels of experience -- which is really not the comparison the Dems want.

Biden has experience, but ideals, character, past judgement, and love of country matter more than a ton of experience --if that expereince has only reinforced the inescapable conclusion that "they" have always looked to bloating the government to solve each and every problem.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Former Mayor John C. Stein thinks Palin is evil and turned the electorate against him. She convince them that he was wasteful and lowered their taxes to the point that the town almost double in size and the economy boomed. Mary Ellen Baker could not be reached by the fair minded LA Times and Times magazine but is attributed in the article neverless.

If you never look at all sides, then your universe will never expand.

Hilarious!

Let me get this straight: Because you don't like the sources I chose, you're denying that Palin wanted to ban books at the public library when she was mayor?

This should be funny. :giggle:

[Bob]

I, for one, would be ecstatic if we went from someone who thought that the Constitution of the United States was just another damn piece of paper (BUSH)... to some who actually taught Constitutional Law (Obama)...

I guess I will settle for someone who actually respects and doesnt use his knowlege of it to subvert it or hand over more powers to Big Brother --

That would be Ron Paul -- not Obama, Not Bush.

[Bob]

Hilarious!

Let me get this straight: Because you don't like the sources I chose, you're denying that Palin wanted to ban books at the public library when she was mayor?

This should be funny. :giggle:

Are you denying that Wright is a bigot that Obama hung with and trusted as a spiritual advisor for 20 years or that Obama launched his campain from a domestic terrorist's home? Or are those things irrelivant when you have your "big" story that Palin didnt like a couple of books?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Are you denying that Wright is a bigot that Obama hung with and trusted as a spiritual advisor for 20 years or that Obama launched his campain from a domestic terrorist's home? Or are those things irrelivant when you have your "big" story that Palin didnt like a couple of books?

Deflection alert! tsk tsk

BTW, yes to questions 1 and 2 - N/A to question 3.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Or are those things irrelivant(sic) when you have your "big" story that Palin didnt like a couple of books?

Is the fact that Palin is currently under investigation for abusing the power of her office irrelevant to you?

[MO<1>]

Is the fact that Palin is currently under investigation for abusing the power of her office irrelevant to you?

There are many innocent people currently under investigation. Allegations can always be made against anyone. It's not like she is going to run a prostitution ring out of her office or helped promote a terrorist's book.

Way to GO Wesley Woodyard!!:notworthy

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

There are many innocent people currently under investigation. Allegations can always be made against anyone. It's not like she is going to run a prostitution ring out of her office or helped promote a terrorist's book.

Way to GO Wesley Woodyard!!:notworthy

If only it were that simple for you.

Palin initially flat-out denied the charges against her - and now she says there might be some truth to them.

You'd better hope your party is able to make this investigation go away before she makes it to that deposition (whereupon, considering the evidence against her, she will either have to admit to some wrongdoing or perjure herself.)

Of course, if there's one area in which the Corrupt Old Party is highly accomplished, it's thwarting investigations into republican wrongdoing, so perhaps the odds are in your favor.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://www.bartcop.com/gramps-tellem.jpg


The Snark Shark

Wednesday night we saw Tonya Harding with a speechwriter. She offered almost nothing of substance. She's positive we should be paranoid. She mocked constitutional rights. Well screw you, Nananook of the Nazis. She tore down but she didn't build up. She fortified the luxury bunker where the rich and powerful hide. The creepy thing is that she did it in the guise of an American every woman. She sold herself as a great administrator, even though she couldn't manage to keep a carwash open in the the muddiest state in the union.

http://barrycrimmins.com/index.php?page=news&display=1340

http://www.bartcop.com/wn-pick.jpg

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Alaskans Speak (In A Frightened Whisper): Palin Is “Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, And Mean”

September 5, 2008

http://www.laprogressive.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/sarah_palin_2.jpgby Charley James –

“So Sambo beat the b*tch!”

This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described Barack Obama’s win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination.

According to Lucille, the waitress serving her table at the time and who asked that her last name not be used, Gov. Palin was eating lunch with five or six people when the subject of the Democrat’s primary battle came up. The governor, seemingly not caring that people at nearby tables would likely hear her, uttered the slur and then laughed loudly as her meal mates joined in appreciatively.

“It was kind of disgusting,” Lucille, who is part Aboriginal, said in a phone interview after admitting that she is frightened of being discovered telling folks in the “lower 48” about life near the North Pole.

Then, almost with a sigh, she added, “But that’s just Alaska.”

Racial and ethnic slurs may be “just Alaska” and, clearly, they are common, everyday chatter for Palin.

Besides insulting Obama with a Step-N’-Fetch-It, “darkie musical” swipe, people who know her say she refers regularly to Alaska’s Aboriginal people as “Arctic Arabs” – how efficient, lumping two apparently undesirable groups into one ugly description – as well as the more colourful “mukluks” along with the totally unimaginative “f**king Eskimo’s,” according to a number of Alaskans and Wasillians interviewed for this article.

But being openly racist is only the tip of the Palin iceberg. According to Alaskans interviewed for this article, she is also vindictive and mean. We’re talking Rove mean and Nixon vindictive.

No wonder the vast sea of white, cheering faces at the Republican Convention went wild for Sarah: They adore the type, it’s in their genetic code. So much for McCain’s pledge of a “high road” campaign; Palin is incapable of being part of one.

Tough Getting People Who Know Her to Talk

It’s not easy getting people in the 49th state to speak critically about Palin – especially people in Wasilla, where she was mayor. For one thing, with every journalist in the world calling, phone lines into Alaska have been mostly jammed since Friday; as often as not, a recording told me that “all circuits are busy” or numbers just wouldn’t ring. I should think a state that’s been made richer than God by oil could afford telephone lines and cell towers for everyone.

On a more practical level, many people in Alaska, and particularly Wasilla, are reluctant to speak or be quoted by name because they’re afraid of her as well as the state Republican Party machine. Apparently, the power elite are as mean as the winters.

“The GOP is kind of like organized crime up here,” an insurance agent in Anchorage who knows the Palin family, explained. “It’s corrupt and arrogant. They’re all rich because they do private sweetheart deals with the oil companies, and they can destroy anyone. And they will, if they have to.”

“Once Palin became mayor,” he continued, “She became part of that inner circle.”

Like most other people interviewed, he didn’t want his name used out of fear of retribution. Maybe it’s the long winter nights where you don’t see the sun for months that makes people feel as if they’re under constant danger from “the authorities.” As I interviewed residents it began sounding as if living in Alaska controlled by the state Republican Party is like living in the old Soviet Union: See nothing that’s happening, say nothing offensive, and the political commissars leave you alone. But speak out and you get disappeared into a gulag north of the Arctic Circle for who-knows-how-long.

Alright, that’s an exaggeration brought on by my getting too little sleep and building too much anger as I worked this article. But there’s ample evidence of Palin’s vindictive willingness to destroy people she sees as opponents. Just ask the Wasilla town administrator she hired before firing him because he rebelled against the way Palin demanded he do his job, or the town librarian who refused to hold the book burning Walpurgisnach Mayor Palin demanded.

Ironically, Palin was pushed into hiring the administrator by the party poobahs who helped get her elected after she got herself into trouble over a number of precipitous firings which gave rise to a recall campaign.
“People who fought her attempt to oust the librarian are on her enemies list to this day,” states Anne Kilkenny (http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09/03/about-sarah-palin/), a Wasilla resident and one of the few Alaskans willing to speak on-the-record, for attribution, about Palin. In fact, Kilkenny actually circulated an e-mail letter about Palin that was verified and printed by The Nation.

For good measure, Palin booted the Wasilla police chief from office because, she told a local newspaper, he “intimidated” her.

Running on Extreme Fringe Evangelical Views

Sarah Palin drew early attention from state GOP apparatchiks when, during her first mayoral campaign, she ran on an anti-abortion platform. Normally, political parties do not get involved in Alaskan municipal elections because they are nonpartisan. But once word of her extreme fringe evangelical views made its way to Juneau, the state capitol, state Republicans tossed some money behind her campaign (http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09/02/hurricane-sarah/).

Once in office, Palin set out to build a machine that chewed up anyone who got in her way. The good, Godly Christian turns out to be anything but.

“She’s doesn’t like different opinions and she refuses to compromise,” Kilkenny notes. “When she was mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t hers. Worse, ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits but on the basis of who proposed them.”

Sound familiar? Palin may well be Dick Cheney’s reincarnate.

Something else has a familiar Republican ring to it: Her tax policies, and a “refund surpluses but borrow for the future” attitude.

According to Kilkenny and others in Wasilla as well as Juneau, Palin reduced progressive property taxes for businesses while mayor and increased a regressive sales tax which even hits necessities such as food. The tax cuts she promoted in her St. Paul speech actually benefited large corporate property owners far more than they benefited residents. Indeed, Kilkenny insists that many Wasilla home owners actually saw their tax bill skyrocket to make up for the shortfall. Two other Wasillian’s with whom I spoke said property taxes on their modest, three bedroom homes rose during the Palin regime.

To an outsider, it would seem hard to do, but an oil-rich town with zero debt on the day she was inaugurated mayor was left saddled with $22 million of debt by the time she moved away to become governor – especially since nothing was spent on things such as improving the city’s infrastructure or building a much-needed sewage treatment plant. So what did Mayor Palin spend the taxpayer’s money on, if not fixing streets and scrubbing sewage?

For starters, she remodelled her office. Several times over, as a matter of fact.

Then Palin spent $1 million on an unnecessary, new park that no one other than the contractors and Palin seemed to want. Next, Sarah doled out more than $15 million of taxpayer money for a sports complex that she shoved through even though the city did not own clear title to the land; now, seven years later, the matter is still in litigation and lawyer fees are said to be close to at least half of the original estimated price of the facility.

She also worked hard to get voters approval of a $5.5 million bond proposal for roads that could have been built without borrowing. Anchorage may not be the center of the financial universe but, like good Republicans everywhere, Sarah Palin knows how to please Alaskan bankers and bond dealers.

For good measure, she turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots.

Sarah Barracuda

En route to the governor’s igloo, Palin managed to land what Anne Kilkenny says is the plumb political appointment in the state: Chair of Alaska’s Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (OGCC), a $122,400 per year patronage slot with no real authority to do anything other than hold meetings. She took the job despite having no background in energy issues and, as it turned out, not liking the work.

“She hated the job,” an OGCC staff member who is not authorized to speak with the news media told me. “She hated the hours and she hated what little work there was to do. But she couldn’t figure out a way to get out of the thing without offending Gov. Murkowski” and the state Republican Party regulars, some of whom were pissed off they didn’t get appointed.

But ever the opportunist, Palin quickly concocted a way. First, she waged a campaign with the local news media claiming that the position was overpaid and should be abolished – despite the fact that she lobbied Murkowski hard to get it. Then, mounting what she saw as a white horse, Palin raised a cloud of dust by resigning from the OGCC and riding away with an undeserved reputation as a “reformer.”

But when a local reporter dared to suggest that the reformer Empress has no clothes, Palin tried to get her fired.

“She came at me like I was trying to steal her kids,” said the targeted reporter, who now works for an oil company in Anchorage. “I heard she had a wild temper and vicious mean streak but it’s nothing like you can imagine until she turns it on you.”

Not surprising since some of her high school classmates still openly call her “Sarah Barracuda,” Kilkenny insists.

Still, as a Republican Party hack Palin managed to get herself elected running under the false flag of a “reformer.”

And what did she bring to the job? No legislative experience other than a city council of a village of 5,000 people, which is smaller than some high schools in Chicago. Little hands-on supervisory or managerial experience; after all, she needed to hire a city administrator to run Wasilla. No executive experience, except for almost being recalled as mayor. A philosophy of setting public policy based on one word: No.

And what has she done since winning the job?

According to Kilkenny, nothing. Well, nothing other than suggesting the state’s multi-multi-million dollar, oil-generated surplus be distributed to residents and finance future state needs by borrowing money. Gee, doesn’t that sound precisely what George Bush did with the surplus he inherited from Bill Clinton in 2001 and we all know in what great shape Bush’s economic policies left the nation.

It may explain why, when asked by reporters, including me, what she thought about Palin being picked to be McCain’s running mate, her mother-in-law replied with a sardonic, “What has Sarah done to qualify her to be vice president?” Of course, when the woman – said by many I spoke with to be well-respected in Wasilla – was running to succeed Palin as mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her, so that may explain the family tension.

As Governor, Palin gave the legislature no direction and budget guidelines, according to the chair of a legislative committee. But then she staged a huge grandstand play of line-item vetoing countless projects, calling them pork. “They were restored because of public outcry and legislative action,” the aide said. “She vetoed them mostly because she had no idea what they were or why they were important.”

But it was enough to get the McCain, who is mostly unobservant of the world around him anyway, to think Palin has a reputation as being “anti-pork”.

In fact, Juneau observers note that Palin kept her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork ladled out by indicted Sen. Ted Stevens. She only opposed the “bridge to nowhere” after it became clear that it would be politically unwise to keep supporting it, these same insiders assert. Then, Palin fell back on her old habits and publicly humiliated him for pork-barrel politics.

As for being “ready on day one” to be commander in chief, despite the repeated public claims she’s made, the Alaska National Guard commander said that, “she has made no command decisions, other than sending some troops to help fight a few brush fires and march in parades at county fairs.”

“Sambo Beat the B*tch”

“Palin is a conniving, manipulative, a**hole,” someone who thinks these are positive traits in a governor told me, summing up Palin’s tenure in Alaska state and local politics.

“She’s a bigot, a racist, and a liar,” is the more blunt assessment of Arnold Gerstheimer who lived in Alaska until two years ago and is now a businessman in Idaho.
http://www.laprogressive.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/charley-james.jpg“Juneau is a small town; everybody knows everyone else,” he adds. “These stories about what she calls blacks and Eskimos, well, anyone not white and good looking actually, were around long before she became a glint in John McCain’s rheumy eyes. Why do I know they’re true? Because everyone who isn’t aboriginal or Indian in Alaska talks that way.”

“Sambo beat the b*tch” may be everyday language up in the bush. Whether it – and the outlook, politics and worldview Palin reflects when she says such things in public – should be part of a presidential campaign is another thing altogether. The comment says as much about McCain as it does about Palin, and it says a lot of things about Americans who overlook such statements (as well as her record) and vote anyway for McCain.

http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09/05/alaskans-speak-in-a-frightened-whisper-palin-is-%E2%80%9Cracist-sexist-vindictive-and-mean%E2%80%9D/

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John McCain’s taken the better boost from the presidential nominating conventions, eroding Barack Obama’s advantage on change, improving on enthusiasm, moving away from George W. Bush – and advancing among white women with help from his surprise vice presidential pick.

Some of McCain’s biggest gains in this ABC News/Washington Post poll are among white women, a group to which “hockey mom” Sarah Palin has notable appeal: Sixtyseven percent view her favorably and 58 percent say her selection makes them more confident in McCain’s decision-making. Among those with children, Palin does better yet. And enthusiasm for McCain among his female supporters has soared. White women have moved from 50-42 percent in Obama’s favor before the conventions to 53-41 percent for McCain now, a 20-point shift in the margin that’s one of the single biggest post-convention changes in voter preferences. The other, also to McCain’s advantage, is in the battleground Midwest, where he’s moved from a 19-point deficit to a 7-point edge.

[link to abcnews.go.com (http://abcnews.go.com/images/PollingUnit/1070a1AftertheConventions.pdf)



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John McCain’s taken the better boost from the presidential nominating conventions, eroding Barack Obama’s advantage on change, improving on enthusiasm, moving away from George W. Bush – and advancing among white women with help from his surprise vice presidential pick.

Some of McCain’s biggest gains in this ABC News/Washington Post poll are among white women, a group to which “hockey mom” Sarah Palin has notable appeal: Sixtyseven percent view her favorably and 58 percent say her selection makes them more confident in McCain’s decision-making. Among those with children, Palin does better yet. And enthusiasm for McCain among his female supporters has soared. White women have moved from 50-42 percent in Obama’s favor before the conventions to 53-41 percent for McCain now, a 20-point shift in the margin that’s one of the single biggest post-convention changes in voter preferences. The other, also to McCain’s advantage, is in the battleground Midwest, where he’s moved from a 19-point deficit to a 7-point edge.

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Bank on it.Hilarious!

[MO<1>]

The suppossedly cussing by Palin was only a snicker according to researchers at Amherst U. They are tracking how rumours are propogating on the internet.

This is a further demonstration of how Obama supporters are frantically grasping at straws- though most Obama supporters on this board most often resort to name calling quite easily. I wonder how many Obama supporters at some time during the last year voiced the same opinion about Hillary when someone else made the comment? What about Biden's comments on his own Senate partners? It is almost absurd that anyonethinks this is a REAL. How about 30% taxation on capital gains tax? That Obama plan really encourages the DJ to go south. How much of the investment market will now move overseas?

[Rohirrim]

She sold herself as a great administrator, even though she couldn't manage to keep a carwash open in the the muddiest state in the union.
Hilarious!

[MO<1>]

She sold herself as a great administrator, even though she couldn't manage to keep a carwash open in the the muddiest state in the union.
Hilarious!

He sold himself as a legislature- but only passed a bill to starve unwanted babies.

He sold himself as a communitty organizer, his communitty has suffered more American deaths in the last year than the worn torn country of Iraq

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

He sold himself as a legislature- but only passed a bill to starve unwanted babies.

He sold himself as a communitty organizer, his communitty has suffered more American deaths in the last year than the worn torn country of Iraq

Is that what Rehab Rush said? :giggle:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

McCain VP pick Palin faces brewing 'Troopergate' inquiry

Tue Sep 9, 2:34 PM ET

JUNEAU, Alaska, (AFP) - A senior Alaska state senator kept an abuse-of-power investigation of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin on track Monday, rejecting Republican calls to remove the Democratic overseer of the probe.

The move made it possible that staff of Palin, the Alaska governor, could soon be subpoenaed to testify in the brewing "Troopergate" case, in which Palin is accused of sacking a senior state official for refusing to fire her sister's ex-husband from the state trooper force.

The case could cast a shadow over Palin, whose choice 10 days ago to be Senator John McCain's White House running mate shocked the country but also has fired up his poll numbers, drawing him even with Democrat Barack Obama in the race.

On Monday Alaska Democratic state senator Kim Elton, chairman of the state legislative council, rejected a call by state Republican representative John Coghill to replace the Democrat director of the Troopergate probe.

"The decisions made by the project director, Senator (Hollis) French, have been appropriate, bipartisan, in line with the charge by the council and unchallenged by any of the principals," Elton said.

He also noted that the inquiry is being conducted by an independently contracted investigator and not by French himself.

Earlier Coghill had complained in a letter that public remarks made by French made the investigation appear "to be lacking in fairness, neutrality and process," and he called for a meeting to replace French.

Elton's reply kept on track the investigation into Palin's July 11 firing of Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan.

Monegan has alleged that he was removed because of his resistance to pressure to dismiss Alaska state trooper Mike Wooten, the ex-husband of Palin's sister Molly McCann.

Palin rejected the charge, but the legislature launched an investigation of the case in late July, well before Palin was chosen by McCain to join his presidential ticket.

At the time Palin said she and her staff would cooperate fully with the probe. But since she was made the Republican vice presidential nominee last week, seven Alaskan agency heads and members of Palin's executive staff have canceled or refused to voluntarily schedule interviews with the investigator.

Because of that, French is convening a meeting of the state senate and house Judiciary Committees on September 12 to consider issuing subpoenas to compel them to testify.

To "de-politicize" the matter, French has said that Palin would not be subpoenaed, and that the investigator would be sent wherever necessary to make an interview as convenient as possible during her busy campaign schedule.

In television interviews on September 5, though, French said Palin would have a "credibility problem" if her staff continues to refuse to be interviewed.

He also said if Palin was involved in accessing confidential personnel file information, it would be a violation of state law.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080909/pl_afp/usvotepalininvestigation

[MO<1>]

Is that what Rehab Rush said? :giggle:

Glen Beck.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Glen Beck.

Six of one - half a dozen of the other.

[MO<1>]

Six of one - half a dozen of the other.

The reason for Nancy Pelozi's fairness doctrines. The Wizard of Oz hid behind curtains. Why did Air America fail?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

The reason for Nancy Pelozi's(sic) fairness doctrines. The Wizard of Oz hid behind curtains.

You're saying Pelosi was the author of the Fairness Doctrine? :rofl:


Why did Air America fail?

Air America failed?

That's funny - I was just listening to it this morning. :giggle:

[Spider]

You're saying Pelosi was the author of the Fairness Doctrine? :rofl:



Air America failed?

That's funny - I was just listening to it this morning. :giggle:

LOL another one of Mo's tall tales

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

LOL another one of Mo's tall tales

Ha!

This guy is a regular right-wing disinfo generating machine.

Just busted him for peddling an already-discredited urban legend about Michelle Obama and some pickle factory in La Junta, CO on another thread.