Palin Accussed Of Having An Affair

[frerottenextelway]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/03/mccain-camp-battles-natio_n_123696.html

McCain Camp Battles National Enquirer Over Alleged Palin Affair

John McCain's presidential campaign is threatening a lawsuit against the National Enquirer over a print edition story the tabloid ran today alleging that Gov. Sarah Palin has had an extramarital affair with her husband's business partner.

The allegation would normally be dismissed by political observers as the random musings of a supermarket tabloid -- indeed, the McCain campaign said as much in its statements on Wednesday -- except that the paper has built up a reservoir of legitimacy following its earlier reporting on the John Edwards affair.

In a statement to the Huffington Post, a spokesman for the paper, who promised a larger report next week, tapped into that pool of quasi-respect.

"The National Enquirer's coverage of a vicious war within Sarah Palin's extended family includes several newsworthy revelations, including the resulting incredible charge of an affair plus details of family strife when the Governor's daughter revealed her pregnancy. Following our John Edwards' exclusives, our political reporting has obviously proven to be more detail-oriented than the McCain campaign's vetting process. Despite the McCain camp's attempts to control press coverage they find unfavorable, The Enquirer will continue to pursue news on both sides of the political spectrum."

Clearly, this is a touchy matter. Already, rumors that Palin's youngest son was actually the son of her daughter were batted down. And the McCain campaign has strenuously insisted that the current crop of insinuations is not only false but also potentially libelous.

"The smearing of the Palin family must end. The allegations contained on the cover of the National Enquirer insinuating that Gov. Palin had an extramarital affair are categorically false. It is a vicious lie," said McCain senior adviser Steve Schmidt. "The efforts of the media and tabloids to destroy this fine and accomplished public servant are a disgrace. The American people will reject it."

But the Edwards reporting complicates matters. Just one month ago, conservatives were bemoaning the fact that no major media outlets had the temerity to follow the politically and personally sensitive rumors about the former North Carolina senator's infidelities. Jonah Goldberg, for example, wrote on the National Review's the Corner in later July that:

"Whatever the merits of the whole Edwards love child story, are we really supposed to believe that one of America's most famous trial lawyers wouldn't sue a publication that printed defamatory and slanderous lies about him? Also, it's worth pointing out that while the Enquirer may or may not be scrupulous in its choice of stories -- that's in the eye of the beholder -- it is pretty scrupulous about its facts. They win lawsuits. They've broken a host of stories the MSM guys couldn't."

Does the MSM now have an obligation to pursue this rumor, however touchy, or at least ask questions?

"The "success" with Edwards no doubt will give them some more credibility, although we should remember that some of the allegations in their "lovechild" stories have been far from proven (although also far from disproven)," wrote Greg Mitchell, editor of Editor and Publisher Magazine.
"Some of their Palin revelations may be quickly firmed up, prove bogus or more likely rest somewhere in-between for awhile. But what will be interesting is whether the Republicans and conservatives and MSM critics who jumped on the MSM and liberals for not quickly embracing the Enquirer's Edwards work will now pooh-pooh the Enquirer when it comes to THIS candidate....:"

And yet, at the same time, the Enquirer's story may be something of a break for the McCain campaign, which has come under siege for the Palin pick. If the Arizona Senator and his aides are able to effectively portray attacks on the Palin as the product of smear, sleaze and innuendo, it clouds those that are more legitimate. And with new attack lines opening up against Palin seemingly every hour, Democrats may be even more hesitant about straying into the tawdry.

Don't blame the libruls on this one...

[Hotrod]

I can confirm this is BS you know how??? Thats right I'm not her husbands business partner ;)

[DenverBrit]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/03/mccain-camp-battles-natio_n_123696.html



Don't blame the libruls on this one...

I'm shocked!! Yikes! :wiggle:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

"The "success" with Edwards no doubt will give them some more credibility, although we should remember that some of the allegations in their "lovechild" stories have been far from proven (although also far from disproven)," wrote Greg Mitchell, editor of Editor and Publisher Magazine.
"Some of their Palin revelations may be quickly firmed up, prove bogus or more likely rest somewhere in-between for awhile. But what will be interesting is whether the Republicans and conservatives and MSM critics who jumped on the MSM and liberals for not quickly embracing the Enquirer's Edwards work will now pooh-pooh the Enquirer when it comes to THIS candidate....:"

Hammer, nail, head! :yep:

[bronclvr]

She must have scared someone-

[Garcia Bronco]

If it's true shame on her. But if it's not then the NE will get it's pants sued off. What proof do they have?

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Star pulled the same **** on Obama. Whatever, at the end of the day, i dont think many believe the NE or Star or any of the others

[Rigs11]

If it's true shame on her. But if it's not then the NE will get it's pants sued off. What proof do they have?

The NE also broke the Edwards affair.

[Hotrod]

The NE also broke the Edwards affair.

A broken clock is right twice a day.

[Spider]

Ok pay attention i will tell you what happened , I was getting ready to shut er down for the night , long hard drive , as I pulled over I saw what appeared to be a beauty queen that had a flat tire on her 4x4 Jeep Grand Cherokee , freezing cold , so I bundled up and went over to offer a helping hand , innocent enough ....... Well I got the lug nuts off , but my hands were so cold I couldnt feel them any more , so i got inside the jeep try warming my hands up ..... She said , put your hands here ( pointing to her thighs) saying this will warm em up faster .... She was right , so I got out got the spare out and got it on , went back in the jeep one more time to warm my hands , I went to go put my hands in the same place as before , She looked me right in the eye ,and said : Dont you ears ever get cold .............. I am not proud of that night ......... oh bull**** , braggin material there ;D

[Garcia Bronco]

Ok pay attention i will tell you what happened , I was getting ready to shut er down for the night , long hard drive , as I pulled over I saw what appeared to be a beauty queen that had a flat tire on her 4x4 Jeep Grand Cherokee , freezing cold , so I bundled up and went over to offer a helping hand , innocent enough ....... Well I got the lug nuts off , but my hands were so cold I couldnt feel them any more , so i got inside the jeep try warming my hands up ..... She said , put your hands here ( pointing to her thighs) saying this will warm em up faster .... She was right , so I got out got the spare out and got it on , went back in the jeep one more time to warm my hands , I went to go put my hands in the same place as before , She looked me right in the eye ,and said : Dont you ears ever get cold .............. I am not proud of that night ......... oh bull**** , braggin material there ;D

Penthouse forum.

[Garcia Bronco]

The NE also broke the Edwards affair.

The also broke the Batboy lives story. :)

[Spider]

Penthouse forum.

Soap and water are not Haz mat

[broncofan7]

whats funny about all of the infidelity related scandals is, I think that the majority of Americans are like me and really do not see the relevance.On the other hand,if this was a case of taking bribes to get legislation passed, that is much more newsworthy--the media makes more of these type of stories than it actually matters to most of us.

[Hotrod]

Ok pay attention i will tell you what happened , I was getting ready to shut er down for the night , long hard drive , as I pulled over I saw what appeared to be a beauty queen that had a flat tire on her 4x4 Jeep Grand Cherokee , freezing cold , so I bundled up and went over to offer a helping hand , innocent enough ....... Well I got the lug nuts off , but my hands were so cold I couldnt feel them any more , so i got inside the jeep try warming my hands up ..... She said , put your hands here ( pointing to her thighs) saying this will warm em up faster .... She was right , so I got out got the spare out and got it on , went back in the jeep one more time to warm my hands , I went to go put my hands in the same place as before , She looked me right in the eye ,and said : Dont you ears ever get cold .............. I am not proud of that night ......... oh bull**** , braggin material there ;D

LOL ****ing awesome

[Garcia Bronco]

Soap and water are not Haz mat

There are other chemicals at a car wash besides soap and water. Either way, you want all of them disposed of properly.

[Garcia Bronco]

LOL ****ing awesome

Wait until you hear his story about the time he helped Chad Mustard change a trans-mission.

[Hotrod]

Wait until you hear his story about the time he helped Chad Mustard change a trans-mission.

Is that the one where there was a problem with the male & female connecters on the transfer case so they had to improvise???

[Spider]

There are other chemicals at a car wash besides soap and water. Either way, you want all of them disposed of properly.

Take a shower ....... you will be safe

[Garcia Bronco]

Is that the one where there was a problem with the male & female connecters on the transfer case so they had to improvise???

The very one.

[Beantown Bronco]

Take a shower ....... you will be safe

Only if you wear your "rubbers"......and Palin doesn't allow that!

[Northman]

I can confirm this is BS you know how??? Thats right I'm not her husbands business partner ;)

So your having the affair with the business partner? :wave:

[Hotrod]

So your having the affair with the business partner? :wave:

**** Ha!

[Garcia Bronco]

**** Ha!

We already know about you and the Mustard.

[Spider]

Only if you wear your "rubbers"......and Palin doesn't allow that!

LOL well Iam the last one to talk , I got 6 love making trophies

[Needa Pass Rush]

Apparently, they saw a car with these tags leaving the biz partners love nest. Ha!

[Bob]

She has also been accused of eating Down Syndrome babies...

Did you here she said the "G" word, and it was not in context of swearing, and hating America!

Her husband is actually not a man -- that's right, he is a transexual -- I know that's "ok" but lets throw out as well and see if it sticks.

Her 17 daughter is a prostitute -- how dare she get married -- now if she had real character she would carry the baby to term and then cut it up -- then we could use her as a spokesperson for the Marxist party.

As my above intentionally radical posts amplify -- There has been a complete loss of ability for folks to refrain their hatred of fellow Americans this election cycle -- the media has been getting its "news" from blogs without independent verification, repeating it over and over -- and if proven false -- no matter -- the purpose to promote political views has been satisfied, and often there will be little or no retraction.

[Bob]

If it's true shame on her. But if it's not then the NE will get it's pants sued off. What proof do they have?

Interesting how fast stories are created for those right of the political spectrum, and how intentional stories are buried by politicans who are left of center -- see Edwards ...

[BroncoInferno]

Did you here she said the "G" word, and it was not in context of swearing, and hating America!

No, it was in the frightening context that she views the Iraq War as some sort crusade for God. I know you want to paint this as just plain old religion bashing, but her (nutty) quote speaks for itself.

[Rohirrim]

Interesting how fast stories are created for those right of the political spectrum, and how intentional stories are buried by politicans who are left of center -- see Edwards ...

You do live in your own little world, don't you? Kind of like Willie Wonka.

[BroncoInferno]

Interesting how fast stories are created for those right of the political spectrum, and how intentional stories are buried by politicans who are left of center -- see Edwards ...

They flogged the Edwards thing for a week even though he no longer holds an office nor is he running for anything. Are you living in reality, sir?

[Garcia Bronco]

No, it was in the frightening context that she views the Iraq War as some sort crusade for God. I know you want to paint this as just plain old religion bashing, but her (nutty) quote speaks for itself.

Jake Elwood was on a mission from God.

[ghwk]

[QUOTE=broncofan7;2063877]whats funny about all of the infidelity related scandals is, I think that the majority of Americans are like me and really do not see the relevance.

Unfortunately the Repubs made a whole impeachment proceeding over stuff like this, so somone is sure as heck interested!

[Bob]

No, it was in the frightening context that she views the Iraq War as some sort crusade for God. I know you want to paint this as just plain old religion bashing, but her (nutty) quote speaks for itself.

No, she stated that we should all be lead by God, like Obama has previously stated -- so its not radical to ask for Gods help in protaction or guidance -- its not illegal bro, I think it might be part of the foundation of our great country.

[Rohirrim]

No, she stated that we should all be lead by God, like Obama has previously stated -- so its not radical to ask for Gods help in protaction or guidance -- its not illegal bro, I think it might be part of the foundation of our great country.

Or to build a gas pipeline.

[Breaker]

The NE also broke the Edwards affair.

Throw enough **** against a wall and eventually one will stick.

[BroncoInferno]

No, she stated that we should all be lead by God, like Obama has previously stated -- so its not radical to ask for Gods help in protaction or guidance -- its not illegal bro, I think it might be part of the foundation of our great country.

No, she said the Iraq War is a "task from God." Her quote. That is the sort of thinking that got us into this mess. Nobody said it was illegal. It's just a dangerous way to view the world and make decisions on behalf of others.

[theAPAOps5]

Guys she is guilty she diddled Bat Boy.

http://www.fif3.com/pics/people/batboy.jpg

Film at 11!

[RaiderH8r]

Ok pay attention i will tell you what happened , I was getting ready to shut er down for the night , long hard drive , as I pulled over I saw what appeared to be a beauty queen that had a flat tire on her 4x4 Jeep Grand Cherokee , freezing cold , so I bundled up and went over to offer a helping hand , innocent enough ....... Well I got the lug nuts off , but my hands were so cold I couldnt feel them any more , so i got inside the jeep try warming my hands up ..... She said , put your hands here ( pointing to her thighs) saying this will warm em up faster .... She was right , so I got out got the spare out and got it on , went back in the jeep one more time to warm my hands , I went to go put my hands in the same place as before , She looked me right in the eye ,and said : Dont you ears ever get cold .............. I am not proud of that night ......... oh bull**** , braggin material there ;D

Maybe you should punch the munchkin more while typing, this is the fewest typos I've ever seen in one of your posts.

[Hogan11]

Star pulled the same **** on Obama. Whatever, at the end of the day, i dont think many believe the NE or Star or any of the others

Life has never been the same since the Weekly World News went under

[DomCasual]

Life has never been the same since the Weekly World News went under

IT WENT UNDER? Yikes!

[Hogan11]

IT WENT UNDER? Yikes!

Last year...."media" got a lot less fun after that

http://www.40fathomgrotto.com/news/images/world_weekly.jpg

[Rohirrim]

I think it's horrible that the media would make this accusation about Palin having an affair...






without pictures! :P

[Hogan11]

Screw both of them, I'm voting for the King Ha!

http://www.extrememortman.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/Elvis%20Presley%202008%20Weekly%20World%20News%20p resident.JPG

[DomCasual]

Last year...."media" got a lot less fun after that

http://www.40fathomgrotto.com/news/images/world_weekly.jpg

What a bummer. I've actually ordered some cool stuff from the back of that thing. I actually have a rose petal that was blessed AND touched by Mary and Jesus. It's true. They visit Jersey City once a year (not making this up), and do something akin to a memorabilia signing.

[elsid13]

Guys she is guilty she diddled Bat Boy.

http://www.fif3.com/pics/people/batboy.jpg

Film at 11!

Man I love Bat Boy. He my idol. He like Smokey and Bandit on Speed!

[Spider]

She has also been accused of eating Down Syndrome babies... Link ? or is this another drama queen moment ?

Did you here she said the "G" word, and it was not in context of swearing, and hating America!

Her husband is actually not a man -- that's right, he is a transexual -- I know that's "ok" but lets throw out as well and see if it sticks.

Her 17 daughter is a prostitute -- how dare she get married -- now if she had real character she would carry the baby to term and then cut it up -- then we could use her as a spokesperson for the Marxist party.

As my above intentionally radical posts amplify -- There has been a complete loss of ability for folks to refrain their hatred of fellow Americans this election cycle -- the media has been getting its "news" from blogs without independent verification, repeating it over and over -- and if proven false -- no matter -- the purpose to promote political views has been satisfied, and often there will be little or no retraction.
Links ? or drama queen time ?

[Hogan11]

What a bummer. I've actually ordered some cool stuff from the back of that thing. I actually have a rose petal that was blessed AND touched by Mary and Jesus. It's true. They visit Jersey City once a year (not making this up), and do something akin to a memorabilia signing.

I used to have a WWN t-shirt, it was a big hit whenever I wore it.

[Atlas]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/03/mccain-camp-battles-natio_n_123696.html



Don't blame the libruls on this one...

SLUT!!

[Spider]

SLUT!!

Thats a good thing ..........

[Bronco Bob]

She has also been accused of eating Down Syndrome babies...

Did you here she said the "G" word, and it was not in context of swearing, and hating America!

Her husband is actually not a man -- that's right, he is a transexual -- I know that's "ok" but lets throw out as well and see if it sticks.

Her 17 daughter is a prostitute -- how dare she get married -- now if she had real character she would carry the baby to term and then cut it up -- then we could use her as a spokesperson for the Marxist party.

As my above intentionally radical posts amplify -- There has been a complete loss of ability for folks to refrain their hatred of fellow Americans this election cycle -- the media has been getting its "news" from blogs without independent verification, repeating it over and over -- and if proven false -- no matter -- the purpose to promote political views has been satisfied, and often there will be little or no retraction.

Also, someone I know at work is also convinced that Palin's husband is
actually the one who got her daughter pregnant and that that 18
year old boy is just an innocent dupe.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I think that the majority of Americans are like me and really do not see the relevance.

Unless Clinton is involved, that is.

Then infidelity can be used to undo election results.

[scttgrd]

Looks like the business partner is trying to hide the court documents from his divorce. Like the republicans say, if you have nothing to hide right?

Could the Equirer be on to something again?

http://www.courtrecords.alaska.gov/pa/pa.urd/pamw2000.docket_lst?68762762

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Looks like the business partner is trying to hide the court documents from his divorce. Like the republicans say, if you have nothing to hide right?

Could the Equirer be on to something again?

http://www.courtrecords.alaska.gov/pa/pa.urd/pamw2000.docket_lst?68762762

I just hope the reporters who are working on the story stay out of small planes and Arkansas motel rooms. ;)

Great sig, BTW. :thumbs:

[Play2win]

DNA test all the kids to see if they all have Daddy's genes... :wiggle:

[frerottenextelway]

OH BOY - HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/here-we-go.html

Todd Palin's former business partner files an emergency motion (http://www.courtrecords.alaska.gov/pa/pa.urd/pamw2000.docket_lst?68762762) to have his divorce papers sealed. Oh God.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

OH BOY - HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/here-we-go.html

I wonder if he made this move at the behest of Candidate McClone's lawyers?

:giggle:

[DenverBrit]

DNA test all the kids to see if they all have Daddy's genes... :wiggle:

You're a sick puppy. That was one of my thoughts too. ;D

[Play2win]

You're a sick puppy. That was one of my thoughts too. ;D

HA!!! wouldn't it be funny if it came back that each child came from a different daddy... Ha!

[RaiderH8r]

I wonder if he made this move at the behest of Candidate McClone's lawyers?

:giggle:

Or if he made this move because of Obama's history of shopping the judicial system to find sympathetic judges to open the private divorce files of others to use those indiscretions for his own political gain. His platitudes of change are as shallow as his words and deeds. The guy could have been divorced for going to gay bath houses and had nothing to do with Palin but none of that would prevent the agent of change, the messiah from plastering it all over the blogosphere and his cronies in the MSM would happily pick that chum up and start their feeding frenzy. But yeah, Obama's not politics as usual (wank, wank).

[scttgrd]

Or if he made this move because of Obama's history of shopping the judicial system to find sympathetic judges to open the private divorce files of others to use those indiscretions for his own political gain. His platitudes of change are as shallow as his words and deeds. The guy could have been divorced for going to gay bath houses and had nothing to do with Palin but none of that would prevent the agent of change, the messiah from plastering it all over the blogosphere and his cronies in the MSM would happily pick that chum up and start their feeding frenzy. But yeah, Obama's not politics as usual (wank, wank).

Wow, so you really believe that BS? The National Equirer is on this, just like ABC news is on the troopergate investigation. What do you want the media to do, stop reporting the news on a potential VP candidate?

Oh yes, lets leave the poor pesecuted republicans alone. They aint done nothing wrong.LOL

[gyldenlove]

LOL well Iam the last one to talk , I got 6 love making trophies

You should clean your sheets then, about time as it sounds! ;)

[RaiderH8r]

Wow, so you really believe that BS? The National Equirer is on this, just like ABC news is on the troopergate investigation. What do you want the media to do, stop reporting the news on a potential VP candidate?

Oh yes, lets leave the poor pesecuted republicans alone. They aint done nothing wrong.LOL

I was simply addressing speculation over why the records were sealed.

They can do their investigation. Troopergate is BS, the guy tasered his own stepson and I'll be happy to dredge up the multiple threads on cops unnecessarily tasering people and the outrage they expressed over that. So his firing was for cause.

Let's look a little bit closer at Obama's coke habit, has that really gone away or is he another Marion Barry?

[frerottenextelway]

I was simply addressing speculation over why the records were sealed.

They can do their investigation. Troopergate is BS, the guy tasered his own stepson and I'll be happy to dredge up the multiple threads on cops unnecessarily tasering people and the outrage they expressed over that. So his firing was for cause.

Let's look a little bit closer at Obama's coke habit, has that really gone away or is he another Marion Barry?

Palin did drugs, btw.

The records weren't sealed, they were requested to be sealed and it was denied.

[scttgrd]

First, everyone has had 18 months to drudge up any and all dirt on Obama, so far nothing has been found that had any real traction. How long has Palin been on the national scene, a week? And already there is an investigation into her by the Alaska state legislature, and that is being moved up. Just today they are calling for an ethics hearing on Sept. 12th. How much more is out there? Give it time, more will surface. Whether anything sticks or not we shall see. Again, where there is smoke there is fire. If she has nothing to hide what are they afraid of?

I like that her own states newspaper is calling her out for stalling the troopergate investigation.

Link: http://www.adn.com/opinion/view/story/516641.html

[Bob]

First, everyone has had 18 months to drudge up any and all dirt on Obama, so far nothing has been found that had any real traction. How long has Palin been on the national scene, a week? And already there is an investigation into her by the Alaska state legislature, and that is being moved up. Just today they are calling for an ethics hearing on Sept. 12th. How much more is out there? Give it time, more will surface. Whether anything sticks or not we shall see. Again, where there is smoke there is fire. If she has nothing to hide what are they afraid of?

And there is plenty of dirt -- but if the media is working for you, its not going to get traction or airtime. They sat on the Edwards love child story for months -- so they are also attempting to sit on various stories about Obama. Withinn hours made-up stories get airtime with Palin -- they source the bloggs and say -- people are saying it ... they hate Palin for manyt reasons -- one of which is that she does not follow the liberal narrative of what a woman should be -- that would be a man.

Obama's preacher -- that came out by non-mainstream media sources at first.

The fact that Obama launched his campain from a domestic terrorists home? Freaking amazing that that story has been hushed -- this terrorist in 2001 siad he only wished he could have been more destructive -- he was not repentant -- so Obama hangs out with bigots and terrorists, but as long as he strong Socialist leanings that will be ignored.

[scttgrd]

So let it all come out, don't deny or deflect. Both sides have issues. But looking at the kind of dirt on both sides I am seeing alot more on the republican side and potentially more damaging. Two months of digging on Palin and I will bet the issues will eclipse anything Obama might have.

[BroncoInferno]

And there is plenty of dirt -- but if the media is working for you, its not going to get traction or airtime. They sat on the Edwards love child story for months -- so they are also attempting to sit on various stories about Obama. Withinn hours made-up stories get airtime with Palin -- they source the bloggs and say -- people are saying it ... they hate Palin for manyt reasons -- one of which is that she does not follow the liberal narrative of what a woman should be -- that would be a man.

Obama's preacher -- that came out by non-mainstream media sources at first.

The fact that Obama launched his campain from a domestic terrorists home? Freaking amazing that that story has been hushed -- this terrorist in 2001 siad he only wished he could have been more destructive -- he was not repentant -- so Obama hangs out with bigots and terrorists, but as long as he strong Socialist leanings that will be ignored.

You seriously need to seek some professional help. That is some wacky sh*t.

[scttgrd]

The republican apologists were creaming there jeans when it was Obama getting nailed by the "liberal media", but now that they are doing the same kind of investigation into McCain and Palin they are screaming bloody murder. Now finding the truth is sexist and wrong in any way they can think of.

[Mr.Meanie]

And there is plenty of dirt -- but if the media is working for you, its not going to get traction or airtime. They sat on the Edwards love child story for months -- so they are also attempting to sit on various stories about Obama. Withinn hours made-up stories get airtime with Palin -- they source the bloggs and say -- people are saying it ... they hate Palin for manyt reasons -- one of which is that she does not follow the liberal narrative of what a woman should be -- that would be a man.

Obama's preacher -- that came out by non-mainstream media sources at first.

The fact that Obama launched his campain from a domestic terrorists home? Freaking amazing that that story has been hushed -- this terrorist in 2001 siad he only wished he could have been more destructive -- he was not repentant -- so Obama hangs out with bigots and terrorists, but as long as he strong Socialist leanings that will be ignored.

Yikes!


:oyvey:

you sound as loony as the "Bush blew up the towers to get elected" tinfoil hat people...

[Rohirrim]

And there is plenty of dirt -- but if the media is working for you, its not going to get traction or airtime. They sat on the Edwards love child story for months -- so they are also attempting to sit on various stories about Obama. Withinn hours made-up stories get airtime with Palin -- they source the bloggs and say -- people are saying it ... they hate Palin for manyt reasons -- one of which is that she does not follow the liberal narrative of what a woman should be -- that would be a man.

Obama's preacher -- that came out by non-mainstream media sources at first.

The fact that Obama launched his campain from a domestic terrorists home? Freaking amazing that that story has been hushed -- this terrorist in 2001 siad he only wished he could have been more destructive -- he was not repentant -- so Obama hangs out with bigots and terrorists, but as long as he strong Socialist leanings that will be ignored.

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[RaiderH8r]

The republican apologists were creaming there jeans when it was Obama getting nailed by the "liberal media", but now that they are doing the same kind of investigation into McCain and Palin they are screaming bloody murder. Now finding the truth is sexist and wrong in any way they can think of.

No, saying she can't be a good mother and a national political figure is sexist any which way you cut it.

[scttgrd]

So, you can advocate abstinance only education for the populace but when your own teenage daughter winds up pregnant no one is allowed to say anything? How about her teenage son arrested for vandalism, moves away to Michigan for a year then told to join the military or got to jail. And now she uses it as a great thing "my son joined the army is going to Iraq". Nice parenting. Unlike Obama, she is hiding from the press. Obama stood up and answered every question. Where is she?

[frerottenextelway]

No, saying she can't be a good mother and a national political figure is sexist any which way you cut it.

Even this way?

http://www.drlaurablog.com/2008/09/02/sarah-palin-and-motherhood/

[Rohirrim]

Countdown before somebody post nude pics of Dr. Laura: 10, 9, 8,...

[Mr.Meanie]

Even this way?

http://www.drlaurablog.com/2008/09/02/sarah-palin-and-motherhood/

that Dr. Laura... she's a sexist pig

[RaiderH8r]

Unless Clinton is involved, that is.

Then infidelity can be used to undo election results.

I'm so glad Barry is above such political shenanigans. That he would never shop a case to open the divorce custody files of a political opponent only to use the information to smear his opposition for political gain. It's awesome that Barry is a change from the political norm and that he would never stoop to such levels...

[RaiderH8r]

So, you can advocate abstinance only education for the populace but when your own teenage daughter winds up pregnant no one is allowed to say anything? How about her teenage son arrested for vandalism, moves away to Michigan for a year then told to join the military or got to jail. And now she uses it as a great thing "my son joined the army is going to Iraq". Nice parenting. Unlike Obama, she is hiding from the press. Obama stood up and answered every question. Where is she?

Writing a memoir or two doesn't constitute standing tall before the man. He controlled his message and was never ever investigated as to whether or not he continued to engage in illicit drug use.

[RaiderH8r]

Even this way?

http://www.drlaurablog.com/2008/09/02/sarah-palin-and-motherhood/

I'm not reading that. I'm pretty sure I can say this much and remain accurate...Dr. Laura is a f'ing moonbat and while she may accidentally stumble upon agreement with me from time to time she can still eat a bag of d!cks and die.

[Rohirrim]

Or if he made this move because of Obama's history of shopping the judicial system to find sympathetic judges to open the private divorce files of others to use those indiscretions for his own political gain.

Serious charge. Link?

[RaiderH8r]

Serious charge. Link?

Common knowledge. It was his 2004 political campaign.

Ryan had opened his divorce files but chose to keep the custody files closed because it involved his son. Barry and his minions shopped it to LA where a judge opened a number of the files which Barry et al used to smear Ryan and ultimate force his withdrawal from the campaign. Dems got a kick out of it...and then returned to bitching about how Bill's bj was no big deal. You don't recall this whole fiasco? It got Alan Keyes in as a last second write in candidate.

[Rohirrim]

Common knowledge. It was his 2004 political campaign.

Ahhh. Okay. Go on with your argument about unsubstantiated rumors. :thumbsup:

[RaiderH8r]

Ahhh. Okay. Go on with your argument about unsubstantiated rumors. :thumbsup:
I'll start here, if this doesn't satisfy I'll go and get more. It was more than a small deal and pretty well known...or so I thought.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ryan_(2004_U.S._Senate_candidate)

Campaign demise
Ryan married actress Jeri Ryan in 1991; together they have a son, Alex Ryan. They divorced in 1999 in California, and the records of the divorce were sealed at their mutual request. Five years later, when Ryan's Senate campaign began, the Chicago Tribune newspaper and WLS-TV, the local ABC affiliate, sought to have the records released. On March 3, 2004, several of Ryan's GOP primary opponents urged release of the records.[5] Both Ryan and his wife agreed to make their divorce records public, but not make the custody records public, claiming that the custody records could be harmful to their son if released. On March 16, 2004, Ryan won the GOP primary with 36 percent to 23 percent against Jim Oberweis who came in second.[6] Obama won the Democratic primary, with 53 percent to 23 percent against Dan Hynes, who came in second.

Barack Obama's backers emailed reporters about the divorce controversy, but refrained from on-the-record commentary about the divorce files.[7] On March 29, 2004, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Robert Schnider ruled that several of the Ryans' divorce records should be opened to the public, and ruled that a court-appointed referee would later decide which custody files should remain sealed to protect the interests of Ryan's young child.[8] The following week, on April 2, 2004, Barack Obama changed his position about the Ryans' soon-to-be-released divorce records, and called on Democrats to not inject them into the campaign.[7] The Ryan campaign characterized Obama's shift as hypocritical, because Obama's backers had been emailing reports about the divorce records prior to Judge Schnider's decision.[7]

On June 22, 2004, after receiving the report from the court-appointed referee, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Robert Schnider released the files that were deemed consistent with the interests of Ryan's young child. In those files, Jeri Ryan alleged that Jack Ryan had taken her to sex clubs in several cities, intending for them to have sex in public.[1] The decision to release these files generated much controversy because it went against both parents' direct request, and because it reversed the earlier decision to seal the papers in the best interest of the child. Jim Oberweis, Ryan's defeated GOP opponent, commented that "these are allegations made in a divorce hearing, and we all know people tend to say things that aren't necessarily true in divorce proceedings when there is money involved and custody of children involved."[1]

Prior to release of the documents, Ryan had told leading Republicans that five percent of the divorce file could cause problems for his campaign.[9] But after the documents were released, GOP officials including state GOP Chair Judy Baar Topinka said they felt Ryan had misleadingly indicated the divorce records would not be embarrassing.[10] That charge of dishonesty led to intensifying calls for Ryan's withdrawal, though Topinka said after the June 25 withdrawal that Ryan's "decision was a personal one" and that the state GOP had not pressured Ryan to drop out.[11] Ryan's campaign ended less than a week after the custody records were opened, and Ryan officially filed the documentation to withdraw on July 29, 2004. The same party leaders who called for Ryan's resignation controversially chose Alan Keyes as Ryan's replacement in the race; Keyes lost to Obama, 27% to 70%.


[edit] 2004 Senate campaign in retrospect
Subsequent to his withdrawal from the U.S. Senate race in Illinois, Jack Ryan has characterized what happened to him as a "new low for politics in America".[12] According to Ryan, it was unprecedented in American politics for a newspaper to sue for access to sealed custody documents. Ryan opposed unsealing the divorce records of Senator John Kerry during Kerry's race against George W. Bush in 2004, and Kerry's divorce records remained sealed. Ryan has made this request: "let me be the only person this has happened to. Don’t ask for Ted Kennedy’s. Don’t ask for John McCain’s. Don’t ask for Joe Lieberman’s. Just stop. This is not a good precedent for American society if you really want the best and brightest to run."[12]

[TailgateNut]

I'll start here, if this doesn't satisfy I'll go and get more. It was more than a small deal and pretty well known...or so I thought.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ryan_(2004_U.S._Senate_candidate)

Campaign demise
Ryan married actress Jeri Ryan in 1991; together they have a son, Alex Ryan. They divorced in 1999 in California, and the records of the divorce were sealed at their mutual request. Five years later, when Ryan's Senate campaign began, the Chicago Tribune newspaper and WLS-TV, the local ABC affiliate, sought to have the records released. On March 3, 2004, several of Ryan's GOP primary opponents urged release of the records.[5] Both Ryan and his wife agreed to make their divorce records public, but not make the custody records public, claiming that the custody records could be harmful to their son if released. On March 16, 2004, Ryan won the GOP primary with 36 percent to 23 percent against Jim Oberweis who came in second.[6] Obama won the Democratic primary, with 53 percent to 23 percent against Dan Hynes, who came in second.

Barack Obama's backers emailed reporters about the divorce controversy, but refrained from on-the-record commentary about the divorce files.[7] On March 29, 2004, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Robert Schnider ruled that several of the Ryans' divorce records should be opened to the public, and ruled that a court-appointed referee would later decide which custody files should remain sealed to protect the interests of Ryan's young child.[8] The following week, on April 2, 2004, Barack Obama changed his position about the Ryans' soon-to-be-released divorce records, and called on Democrats to not inject them into the campaign.[7] The Ryan campaign characterized Obama's shift as hypocritical, because Obama's backers had been emailing reports about the divorce records prior to Judge Schnider's decision.[7]

On June 22, 2004, after receiving the report from the court-appointed referee, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Robert Schnider released the files that were deemed consistent with the interests of Ryan's young child. In those files, Jeri Ryan alleged that Jack Ryan had taken her to sex clubs in several cities, intending for them to have sex in public.[1] The decision to release these files generated much controversy because it went against both parents' direct request, and because it reversed the earlier decision to seal the papers in the best interest of the child. Jim Oberweis, Ryan's defeated GOP opponent, commented that "these are allegations made in a divorce hearing, and we all know people tend to say things that aren't necessarily true in divorce proceedings when there is money involved and custody of children involved."[1]

Prior to release of the documents, Ryan had told leading Republicans that five percent of the divorce file could cause problems for his campaign.[9] But after the documents were released, GOP officials including state GOP Chair Judy Baar Topinka said they felt Ryan had misleadingly indicated the divorce records would not be embarrassing.[10] That charge of dishonesty led to intensifying calls for Ryan's withdrawal, though Topinka said after the June 25 withdrawal that Ryan's "decision was a personal one" and that the state GOP had not pressured Ryan to drop out.[11] Ryan's campaign ended less than a week after the custody records were opened, and Ryan officially filed the documentation to withdraw on July 29, 2004. The same party leaders who called for Ryan's resignation controversially chose Alan Keyes as Ryan's replacement in the race; Keyes lost to Obama, 27% to 70%.


[edit] 2004 Senate campaign in retrospect
Subsequent to his withdrawal from the U.S. Senate race in Illinois, Jack Ryan has characterized what happened to him as a "new low for politics in America".[12] According to Ryan, it was unprecedented in American politics for a newspaper to sue for access to sealed custody documents. Ryan opposed unsealing the divorce records of Senator John Kerry during Kerry's race against George W. Bush in 2004, and Kerry's divorce records remained sealed. Ryan has made this request: "let me be the only person this has happened to. Don’t ask for Ted Kennedy’s. Don’t ask for John McCain’s. Don’t ask for Joe Lieberman’s. Just stop. This is not a good precedent for American society if you really want the best and brightest to run."[12]


Wiki is a trustworthy source?
Edit:
Wiki IS a trustworthy source!

It's just that easy!;D

[scttgrd]

Ok, lets have a look at things in that place called reality. The coverage of scandals has been pretty lousy so far. Whats good to call Obama on is taboo for McCain.

Obama: Rev. Wright- Still being talked up by republicans and one of the first go-to slams.

McCain: Rev. Hagee- Who? You don't seem to hear much about that do you, sad part is he heavily pursued that endosement. Who is that again?

Next,

Obama: Rezko- Oh boy they love to drag that one down the way any time they need a second slam.

McCain: Keating 5- He was involved in that wasn't he, well wasn't he? Of coarse he was but you won't hear much about it. Nice.

There are two simple examples of the difference in coverage, if Obama had worked relentlessly to get a cop he didn't like fired or had a pregnant teenage daughter all hell would break loose. Get your head out of your duffle bag and rejoin us in that place called reality.

[TailgateNut]

Ok, lets have a look at things in that place called reality. The coverage of scandals has been pretty lousy so far. Whats good to call Obama on is taboo for McCain.

Obama: Rev. Wright- Still being talked up by republicans and one of the first go-to slams.

McCain: Rev. Hagee- Who? You don't seem to hear much about that do you, sad part is he heavily pursued that endosement. Who is that again?

Next,

Obama: Rezko- Oh boy they love to drag that one down the way any time they need a second slam.

McCain: Keating 5- He was involved in that wasn't he, well wasn't he? Of coarse he was but you won't hear much about it. Nice.

There are two simple examples of the difference in coverage, if Obama had worked relentlessly to get a cop he didn't like fired or had a pregnant teenage daughter all hell would break loose. Get your head out of your duffle bag and rejoin us in that place called reality.



I've never heard of it being called a "duffle bag".:spit:

[Rohirrim]

Barack Obama's backers emailed reporters about the divorce controversy, but refrained from on-the-record commentary about the divorce files.[7] On March 29, 2004, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Robert Schnider ruled that several of the Ryans' divorce records should be opened to the public, and ruled that a court-appointed referee would later decide which custody files should remain sealed to protect the interests of Ryan's young child.[8] The following week, on April 2, 2004, Barack Obama changed his position about the Ryans' soon-to-be-released divorce records, and called on Democrats to not inject them into the campaign.[7] The Ryan campaign characterized Obama's shift as hypocritical, because Obama's backers had been emailing reports about the divorce records prior to Judge Schnider's decision.

That's some vague, unsubstantiated ****. Obama's backers? Who. Email? Where? Obama changed his position? What position? The position of the mystery Obama backers? So, the only publicly substantiated part of this is that Obama told Dems not to use these tactics? That's some weak ****.

[scttgrd]

One of my drill seargents said it at least 50 tims a day so I kind of picked it up.

[TailgateNut]

One of my drill seargents said it at least 50 tims a day so I kind of picked it up.


My drill seargents used much more choice words. But that was a few decades ago.

A duffle bag would have been "A$$" bck then. ;D

[RaiderH8r]

Wiki is a trustworthy source?
Edit:
Wiki IS a trustworthy source!

It's just that easy!;D

The Old Gray Lady then.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9406E3D71039F930A15755C0A9629C8B 63&scp=1&sq=Jack+Ryan+Jeri+Ryan&st=nyt

[RaiderH8r]

Barack Obama's backers emailed reporters about the divorce controversy, but refrained from on-the-record commentary about the divorce files.[7] On March 29, 2004, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Robert Schnider ruled that several of the Ryans' divorce records should be opened to the public, and ruled that a court-appointed referee would later decide which custody files should remain sealed to protect the interests of Ryan's young child.[8] The following week, on April 2, 2004, Barack Obama changed his position about the Ryans' soon-to-be-released divorce records, and called on Democrats to not inject them into the campaign.[7] The Ryan campaign characterized Obama's shift as hypocritical, because Obama's backers had been emailing reports about the divorce records prior to Judge Schnider's decision.

That's some vague, unsubstantiated ****. Obama's backers? Who. Email? Where? Obama changed his position? What position? The position of the mystery Obama backers? So, the only publicly substantiated part of this is that Obama told Dems not to use these tactics? That's some weak ****.

Wow, Cheney runs the world, Bush brought down the towers, Halliburton runs the rest of the world but the notion that Obama's campaign urged this action is unfathomable. That's more than a little remarkable.

[scttgrd]

My drill seargents used much more choice words. But that was a few decades ago.

A duffle bag would have been "A$$" bck then. ;D

I went to basic at Ft. knox in 1986, some had no trouble with the foul language. But there were a few that did thier best to use creative alternatives.

[Mr.Meanie]

The Old Gray Lady then.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9406E3D71039F930A15755C0A9629C8B 63&scp=1&sq=Jack+Ryan+Jeri+Ryan&st=nyt

hmm... I just read that article and it didn't say anything about Obama trying to unseal the divorce records. Just him saying that he thought the matter was private. Did you paste the wrong link?

[Rohirrim]

The Old Gray Lady then.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9406E3D71039F930A15755C0A9629C8B 63&scp=1&sq=Jack+Ryan+Jeri+Ryan&st=nyt

That doesn't back up any of your claims. In fact, from that article it's clear that not only did Obama have nothing to do with it, but when asked he stated he had no comment or interest in it. It's clear also that news organizations, not "Obama backers" sued to make the court record public. Plus, the article states Obama was already comfortably ahead in the polls before the Ryan scandal became public.

[Rohirrim]

Wow, Cheney runs the world, Bush brought down the towers, Halliburton runs the rest of the world but the notion that Obama's campaign urged this action is unfathomable. That's more than a little remarkable.

Who made those claims? Not me. Anyway, if you want to see some real political nastiness, remember the people who smeared McCain in South Carolina claiming he had an "illegitimate black baby?" Guess what? The guy who was in charge of that smear? Eskew? McCain just hired him. :rofl:

[Hotrod]

Who made those claims? Not me. Anyway, if you want to see some real political nastiness, remember the people who smeared McCain in South Carolina claiming he had an "illegitimate black baby?" Guess what? The guy who was in charge of that smear? Eskew? McCain just hired him. :rofl:

WTF are you serious

[Rohirrim]

WTF are you serious

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=70815

[Hotrod]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=70815

wtf I'm kind of stunned :nono:

Some of the things he is doing just simply dont make any ****ing sense.

[RaiderH8r]

Who made those claims? Not me. Anyway, if you want to see some real political nastiness, remember the people who smeared McCain in South Carolina claiming he had an "illegitimate black baby?" Guess what? The guy who was in charge of that smear? Eskew? McCain just hired him. :rofl:

David Axelrod was Obama's campaign strategist in 2004 senate race. David Axelrod previously worked for the Chicago Tribune. The Chicago Tribune was a party to the suit to open Ryan's records. Is it unfathomable that Axelrod could have called his colleagues at the Trib to encourage this action?

Oh...the Chicago Tribune also broke a story about Obama's primary opponent using info from his divorce records. Obama was behind in primary polling ahead of that story.

For a guy who believes in the smoke and fire premise I'll just go home now, I have to pick up the boy from day care.

[Rohirrim]

David Axelrod was Obama's campaign strategist in 2004 senate race. David Axelrod previously worked for the Chicago Tribune. The Chicago Tribune was a party to the suit to open Ryan's records. Is it unfathomable that Axelrod could have called his colleagues at the Trib to encourage this action?

Oh...the Chicago Tribune also broke a story about Obama's primary opponent using info from his divorce records. Obama was behind in primary polling ahead of that story.

For a guy who believes in the smoke and fire premise I'll just go home now, I have to pick up the boy from day care.

Maybe this is the story you were looking for?

Wallace-Wells, Ben. "Obama’s Narrator", New York Times (2007-04-01): "As the 2004 Senate primary neared, it was clear that it was a contest between two people: the millionaire liberal, Hull, who was leading in the polls, and Obama, who had built an impressive grass-roots campaign. About a month before the vote, The Chicago Tribune revealed, near the bottom of a long profile of Hull, that during a divorce proceeding, Hull’s second wife filed for an order of protection. In the following few days, the matter erupted into a full-fledged scandal that ended up destroying the Hull campaign and handing Obama an easy primary victory. The Tribune reporter who wrote the original piece later acknowledged in print that the Obama camp had 'worked aggressively behind the scenes' to push the story."

Now that is evidence.

[Rohirrim]

wtf I'm kind of stunned :nono:

Some of the things he is doing just simply dont make any ****ing sense.

I think it's pretty clear what McCain intends to do. The polls indicate that Americans want to get away from the Bush policies which they see as a total failure. McCain knows the platform of the Republicans is pretty much the SOS. So he can't argue issues with Obama. He'll get smoked. The only way to go is to make the campaign about personality. Ergo, Palin. Put on your slickers, fellow campers. It's gonna get muddy.:wiggle:

[scttgrd]

Maybe this is the story you were looking for?

Wallace-Wells, Ben. "Obama’s Narrator", New York Times (2007-04-01): "As the 2004 Senate primary neared, it was clear that it was a contest between two people: the millionaire liberal, Hull, who was leading in the polls, and Obama, who had built an impressive grass-roots campaign. About a month before the vote, The Chicago Tribune revealed, near the bottom of a long profile of Hull, that during a divorce proceeding, Hull’s second wife filed for an order of protection. In the following few days, the matter erupted into a full-fledged scandal that ended up destroying the Hull campaign and handing Obama an easy primary victory. The Tribune reporter who wrote the original piece later acknowledged in print that the Obama camp had 'worked aggressively behind the scenes' to push the story."

Now that is evidence.


And that is how you handle the truth, not by deflecting or saying yeah but so and so did whatever. The right wing apologists will excuse pretty much anything.

[Rohirrim]

I think the critical thing about this entire argument is that I get to post a pic of Jeri Ryan:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/static.onmylist.com/list_item_images/41707/jeri_ryan_list_view.jpg

[Hotrod]

I think the critical thing about this entire argument is that I get to post a pic of Jeri Ryan:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/static.onmylist.com/list_item_images/41707/jeri_ryan_list_view.jpg


I wish she was running as someones VP ;)

[Spider]

I think the critical thing about this entire argument is that I get to post a pic of Jeri Ryan:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/static.onmylist.com/list_item_images/41707/jeri_ryan_list_view.jpg

Oh man ........

[RaiderH8r]

I wish she was running as someones VP ;)

She can randomly sample my polling place anytime.