The Official "Will Palin Drop Out?" Thread

[SonOfLe-loLang]

I say the percentages are at like 50 percent she's gone by next week. They will say something about commitment to family blah blah....

Thoughts?

[Rohirrim]

Nope. The Radical Right is slathering all over this pick. They've sent in $7 million over the internets so far to the McCain campaign. She's in for the long-haul, warts and all. This was one of the supreme sell-out picks of all time. In fact, McCain is becoming the poster boy of the sell-out.

[frerottenextelway]

They put this up on InTrade.

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[SonOfLe-loLang]

I just read a poll that stated 60 percent of Americans think she should drop out. Plus, she hasnt helped McCain's numbers at all (the dems have enjoyed a boost sicne the DNC) though we should wait till after the RNC. I think this might be more than they bargained for.

[Traveler]

Nope. The Radical Right is slathering all over this pick. They've sent in $7 million over the internets so far to the McCain campaign. She's in for the long-haul, warts and all. This was one of the supreme sell-out picks of all time. In fact, McCain is becoming the poster boy of the sell-out.

Wonder if this $7 million is imaginary like the $10 million Clinton supposed got in one day during the primaries?

[Traveler]

To lazy to research, but, has anyone ever accepted the VP nomination then backed out or was forced to resign before the general election?

[frerottenextelway]

To lazy to research, but, has anyone ever accepted the VP nomination then backed out or was forced to resign before the general election?

Yep, Thomas Eagleton.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Eagleton

[Traveler]

If she does stay in the race through the election and Mac-Cane /Palin loses, most will look to the day Mac-Cane selected her as the "game changer" for the 08 presidential contest.

[Traveler]

Yep, Thomas Eagleton.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Eagleton

Thanks! Just wondered if it has happened before.

[Rohirrim]

Wonder if this $7 million is imaginary like the $10 million Clinton supposed got in one day during the primaries?

I don't know but if they dump this VP they might as well kiss the Radical Right fundamentalist vote, ie. the base, goodbye. It's like being caught in a sticker bush. It hurts just as much trying to get out of it as it hurt getting into it. Ha!

[Traveler]

I don't know but if they dump this VP they might as well kiss the Radical Right fundamentalist vote, ie. the base, goodbye. It's like being caught in a sticker bush. It hurts just as much trying to get out of it as it hurt getting into it. Ha!

Mac-Cane has changed so much even he doesn't know who he is anymore.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I just read a poll that stated 60 percent of Americans think she should drop out. Plus, she hasnt helped McCain's numbers at all (the dems have enjoyed a boost sicne the DNC) though we should wait till after the RNC. I think this might be more than they bargained for.

That doesn't surprise me, but since when do the rethugs give a sh*t about what the majority think?

Odds are they will succeed in making troopergate go away just like they've thwarted every other investigation into Republican wrongdoing these past eight years.

And the snake handlers and gun nuts will look the other way (or sympathize with Caribou Barbie even more because those nasty, godless libruls are pickin' on her.)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

McCain Threatens CNN, No more interviews unless they make changes......

John McCain was scheduled to do in interview today on CNN with Wolf Blitzer. At the last moment he cancelled the interview because of how hard Cameron Brown was on one of his campaign staff and the manner in how her questions were posed.

http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/index.php?showtopic=7846

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYYiw_y2qDI

[TheDave]

McCain Threatens CNN, No more interviews unless they make changes......

John McCain was scheduled to do in interview today on CNN with Wolf Blitzer. At the last moment he cancelled the interview because of how hard Cameron Brown was on one of his campaign staff and the manner in how her questions were posed.

http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/index.php?showtopic=7846

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYYiw_y2qDI

I saw that (by the way the name is campbell brown)... it wasn't that she was tough on the guy, this is simply the fact that the McCain camp **** on their own experience argument and no longer have a platform to run on...

[frerottenextelway]

Palin Officially Out

Sarah Pawlenty is the new VP Candidate

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[Spider]

I saw that (by the way the name is campbell brown)... it wasn't that she was tough on the guy, this is simply the fact that the McCain camp **** on their own experience argument and no longer have a platform to run on...

Man Tucker is full of **** ...........He should be embarrassed

[spdirty]

Sarah Palin will step down in January of 2021, following completion of her second term in office.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I just read a poll that stated 60 percent of Americans think she should drop out. Plus, she hasnt helped McCain's numbers at all (the dems have enjoyed a boost sicne the DNC) though we should wait till after the RNC. I think this might be more than they bargained for.
Horrible choice for McCain, by going after the religious and radical right he alienates the huge base of Independent voters out there.

[Bronco Bob]

McCain isn't a maverick. He's a loose cannon.

[Rigs11]

McCain isn't a maverick. He's a loose cannon.

What was it that that governor said at the DNC?

"Mccain has voted with Bush 90% of the time, that's not a maverick that's a sidekick."ROFL!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Palin Officially Out

Sarah Pawlenty is the new VP Candidate

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:rofl:

There's a joke in there somewhere about a bridge to nowhere that collapses. ;)

[Garcia Bronco]

To lazy to research, but, has anyone ever accepted the VP nomination then backed out or was forced to resign before the general election?

Arron Burr kinda did.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I say the percentages are at like 50 percent she's gone by next week. They will say something about commitment to family blah blah....

Thoughts?

Not gonna happen.

For one, changing horses in mid-stream would be tantamount to admitting they made a mistake - and everyone knows Republicans don't do that.

Second, as long as the right-wing media keeps enough live video of Palin speaking in tongues and praising Jay-sus in heavy rotation, the evangelical base will overlook troopergate and babygate (and even try to turn the whole mess around on the nasty, godless liberals who are gratuitously persecuting such an exemplary Christian soldier.)

[Crushaholic]

If she does stay in the race through the election and Mac-Cane /Palin loses, most will look to the day Mac-Cane selected her as the "game changer" for the 08 presidential contest.

I doubt it. A lot of Republicans (including myself) were already queasy about the possibility of McCain. Palin can only help him, as it shows the public that the Republicans can play this game of "historic firsts" as well.

[theAPAOps5]

Hmm I just saw a CBS poll that shows Obama with an 8 point lead. Interestingly enough he grew with :gasp: independents and :double gasp: women voters. Palin will end up being the mistake of these elections.

[Bronco Bob]

Hmm I just saw a CBS poll that shows Obama with an 8 point lead. Interestingly enough he grew with :gasp: independents and :double gasp: women voters. Palin will end up being the mistake of these elections.

Gallup 8/29-9/1:
Obama 50%
McCain 42%
+8 Obama

Rasmussen 8/30-9/1
Obama 51%
McCain 45%
+6 Obama

Hotline/FD 8/29-8/31
Obama 48%
McCain 39%
+9 Obama

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Not gonna happen.

For one, changing horses in mid-stream would be tantamount to admitting they made a mistake - and everyone knows Republicans don't do that.

Second, as long as the right-wing media keeps enough live video of Palin speaking in tongues and praising Jay-sus in heavy rotation, the evangelical base will overlook troopergate and babygate (and even try to turn the whole mess around on the nasty, godless liberals who are gratuitously persecuting such an exemplary Christian soldier.)

True, but if they spin it is she now needs to care for her daughter, her mentally disabled son....it would be a pretty dumb decision, but then again so was nominating her for VP

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Palin can only help him....

Provided the GOP can succeed in squashing the current investigation into troopergate before November and keep all of Caribou Barbie's other embarrassing scandals out of the MSM.

But hey - covering up and thwarting investigations into their own wrongdoing is what republicans do best.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Hmm I just saw a CBS poll that shows Obama with an 8 point lead. Interestingly enough he grew with :gasp: independents and :double gasp: women voters. Palin will end up being the mistake of these elections.

That's a good sign. :thumbsup:

[stugotsII]

I find it odd that so much media attention has been paid to Palin and her daughter, while the same media paid zero attention to Obama and his affiliation with a racist, anti American pastor.

Does America really want to put the most important job on Earth into the hands of a guy that has as much experience governing people as I do?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I find it odd that so much media attention has been paid to Palin and her daughter, while the same media paid zero attention to Obama and his affiliation with a racist, anti American pastor.

???

Are you kidding me?

How many weeks or months did the "racist" pastor football get kicked around by the media?

Palin was tapped for VP how many days ago?

Gotta love that right-wing fuzzy math. Ha!

Does America really want to put the most important job on Earth into the hands of a guy that has as much experience governing people as I do?

Folks like you had no scruples about that sort of thing in 2000, if I recall.

(Not that your assessment of Obama's credentials is reality-based.)

[stugotsII]

???

Are you kidding me?

How many weeks or months did the "racist" pastor football get kicked around by the media?

Palin was tapped for VP how many days ago?

Gotta love that right-wing fuzzy math. Ha!



Folks like you had no scruples about that sort of thing in 2000, if I recall.

(Not that your assessment of Obama's credentials is reality-based.)

It actually didn't get much airtime at all. I heard a little on Howard Stern, but not too much elsewhere. Just from the right wing talking heads...not from actual news sources.

The question is...why are we hearing about this rather than the amazing success in Iraq recently?

I'll answer that one...because it doesn't help Obama to talk about success in Iraq. It does however help Obam to talk about Sarah Palin's daughter and how Sarah Palin is a bad mother.

[stugotsII]

???

Are you kidding me?

How many weeks or months did the "racist" pastor football get kicked around by the media?

Palin was tapped for VP how many days ago?

Gotta love that right-wing fuzzy math. Ha!



Folks like you had no scruples about that sort of thing in 2000, if I recall.

(Not that your assessment of Obama's credentials is reality-based.)

Again, George Bush had Governing experience. He governed one of the biggest states is the union...and did so very, very well.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Again, George Bush had Governing experience.

Governor of Texas is a largely ceremonial office.

GeeDubya had no political experience at the national level.


He governed one of the biggest states is the union...and did so very, very well.

:rofl:

Are you kidding me?

He ran the state into the ground - just like he's done with every other job he's held in either the public or private sectors.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

It actually didn't get much airtime at all.

The "racist" pastor tempest in a teapot?

Didn't get much airtime?

On what planet?

[stugotsII]

Governor of Texas is a largely ceremonial office.

GeeDubya had no political experience at the national level.



:rofl:

Are you kidding me?

He ran the state into the ground - just like he's done with every other job he's held in either the public or private sectors.

Which is it...the position was ceremonial or he ran it into the ground. Make up your mind.

He left office being extremely popular and leaving Texas with an amazing economy that is still thriving today. Most of the time, people don't like a guy that runs there state into the ground.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Which is it...the position was ceremonial or he ran it into the ground. Make up your mind.

Both.

His duties were few, but those he had he botched beyond belief (as has been true with everything he's ever done in life - right up to and including the presidency.)


He left office being extremely popular and leaving Texas with an amazing economy that is still thriving today. Most of the time, people don't like a guy that runs there state into the ground.

Extremely popular in Texas?

Now there's a litmus test. Ha!

A Satan/Charles Manson ticket would be popular in Texas - as long as it was a republican ticket.

[Drek]

You're wasting your time LABF. Stugots gets his talking points from the RNC fax line so if the RNC isn't pounding away at it specifically he doesn't pay attention.

Hence missing the near 24 hour coverage Rev. Wright received for about two weeks, and the regular updates over a month after that. They were part of the Democratic primary and were found to have no traction.

[Beantown Bronco]

Which is it...the position was ceremonial or he ran it into the ground. Make up your mind.

He left office being extremely popular and leaving Texas with an amazing economy that is still thriving today. Most of the time, people don't like a guy that runs there state into the ground.

And how exactly has that translated to his time as President? If you believe he was really THAT good in state politics, then you have to concede it had zero influence on his abilities in national politics.

[stugotsII]

And how exactly has that translated to his time as President? If you believe he was really THAT good in state politics, then you have to concede it had zero influence on his abilities in national politics.

Unlike many on the left, Bush did exactly what he said he would do on many issues.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Hey, it's time for Sarah to put on her big girl pants and run the race. Granted, if the Repubs had been the attack dogs, the Dems would be pi$$ing and moaning just the same. She wants Hilary's supporters, then she'd better show the savvy and strength that Hilary showed in this thing. Obama absolutely battered Hilary and he'll do the same thing to Palin. The question is whether McCain is smart enough to deal with it and whether Palin is strong enough to play in the big leagues. Is it repulsive what they're coming up with? Of course--it's desperation but it's how they do things on the big stage, so we'll see how Palin stacks up (or doesn't).

[epicSocialism4tw]

Hey, it's time for Sarah to put on her big girl pants and run the race. Granted, if the Repubs had been the attack dogs, the Dems would be pi$$ing and moaning just the same. She wants Hilary's supporters, then she'd better show the savvy and strength that Hilary showed in this thing. Obama absolutely battered Hilary and he'll do the same thing to Palin. The question is whether McCain is smart enough to deal with it and whether Palin is strong enough to play in the big leagues. Is it repulsive what they're coming up with? Of course--it's desperation but it's how they do things on the big stage, so we'll see how Palin stacks up (or doesn't).

This is true.

Either Palin shows up as a tough-minded woman with dogged determination or she crumbles under the pressure.

I think that this is where Obama's campaign is setting themselves up for failure.

If Palin shows well and her interaction with the press is unwavering, the press will have to come of of the gas a little. Every woman in the country is watching Palin now. The press doesnt want to alienate its viewers/readers. Eventually they will have to provide some sort of positive spin to continue to get a slice of the ratings pie.

[ScottXray]

I find it odd that so much media attention has been paid to Palin and her daughter, while the same media paid zero attention to Obama and his affiliation with a racist, anti American pastor.

Does America really want to put the most important job on Earth into the hands of a guy that has as much experience governing people as I do?

The Reverend Wright news cycle went on for WEEKS, and the media Kept it being an issue long after it stopped being really relevant. Obama had to address it and he did, both with his speech and also finally leaving that church after Wright kept making those inflammatory statements.

Palin has been in the news for 5 days. Your going to hear a lot more about Palin before this settles down.

Frankly , I don't care about her daughter being pregnant, or what that says about Palins Values or mothering capabilities. Many families deal with that issue and it is a private matter. Obama has even said that is out of bounds.

I'd be more concerned about the investigation into her possibly abusing her power of office to settle personal grudges against her ex brother-in-law. The results of that investigation are going to be in the news for a while too, so get used to it.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Unlike many on the left, Bush did exactly what he said he would do on many issues.

And proceeded to drive the country straight into the ground.

[stugotsII]

And proceeded to drive the country straight into the ground.

I honestly don't know one single person that is worse off now than before he took over as President.

Most of my friends are now married, with kids, homes, great jobs, health care, educated and better off now than before.

I'm not saying that that is a direct result of Bush policy, I'm saying the country as my friend and family know it...hasn't been run into the ground.

[frerottenextelway]

I honestly don't know one single person that is worse off now than before he took over as President.

I'm pretty sure the thousands of dead ones aren't better off now.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I'm pretty sure the thousands of dead ones aren't better off now.

Are you speaking of the twin towers?

[SonOfLe-loLang]

I honestly don't know one single person that is worse off now than before he took over as President.

Most of my friends are now married, with kids, homes, great jobs, health care, educated and better off now than before.

I'm not saying that that is a direct result of Bush policy, I'm saying the country as my friend and family know it...hasn't been run into the ground.

Ummmm....i know a lot of people who aren't better off now!!! Go live in your bubble though, as long as youre OK, who gives a ****.

On the subject of Palin and her "mavericky" image and how she will "fight earmarks"

"It seems that “under her leadership, Alaska has asked the federal government for almost $300 per person in requests for pet projects this year. That’s more than any other state received, per person, from Congress and runs counter to the image the GOP ticket is pushing.”

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Are you speaking of the twin towers?

I think he's speaking of that little skirmish in iraq

[Beantown Bronco]

I honestly don't know one single person that is worse off now than before he took over as President.

Most of my friends are now married, with kids, homes, great jobs, health care, educated and better off now than before.

You are 33 now; 25 when Bush took over. Of course most of the folks you know are going to make more now than when they were pretty much fresh out of school, single and not making much money. From 25-35 or so is when the biggest jumps in salary occur, even in a bad market. After that, it starts to level off considerably, and for the majority of the middle aged and older crowd the last 8 years, has not come close to keeping pace with inflation.

You'd have to be blind to not see that a very significant portion of the country is worse off now than before Bush took over.

[TailgateNut]

You are 33 now; 25 when Bush took over. Of course most of the folks you know are going to make more now than when they were pretty much fresh out of school, single and not making much money. From 25-35 or so is when the biggest jumps in salary occur, even in a bad market. After that, it starts to level off considerably, and for the majority of the middle aged and older crowd the last 8 years, has not come close to keeping pace with inflation.

You'd have to be blind to not see that a very significant portion of the country is worse off now than before Bush took over.


Good post Bean. I'm not hurting, but I can say, business is brutal (Dog eat Dog). We used to have 4-5 General contractors bidding on projects, now we see 12-20 at the bidding table. That slashes the profit margins which affects the pay and bonuses of all of our employees, while the cost of EVERYTHING is rising.

[Garcia Bronco]

Good post Bean. I'm not hurting, but I can say, business is brutal (Dog eat Dog). We used to have 4-5 General contractors bidding on projects, now we see 12-20 at the bidding table. That slashes the profit margins which affects the pay and bonuses of all of our employees, while the cost of EVERYTHING is rising.

That's the free market buddy. Maybe you could get a job more in line with your temper. Maybe you and tank abbott could fight as a tag team on UFC or something. I hear they pay well.