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theAPAOps5
09-01-2008, 11:11 AM
I was making a mountain out of a mole hill with Scheffler. Back listed with the TE's but still 3rd. I know I am a drama queen:

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=134

Broncos Offense

WR 15 B. Marshall

LT 78 R. Clady 64 E. Pears
LG 50 B. Hamilton 67 K. Lichtensteiger
C 66 T. Nalen 62 C. Wiegmann
RG 73 C. Kuper
RT 74 R. Harris 76 T. Polumbus
TE 89 D. Graham 81 N. Jackson 88 T. Scheffler

WR 19 E. Royal 82 D. Jackson 14 B Stokley 13 K. Colbert

QB 6 J. Cutler 11 P. Ramsey
RB 35 S. Young 23 A. Hall 42 R. Torain
FB 48 P. Hillis 28 M. Pittman 46 S. Larsen

Broncos Specialists
P 1 B. Kern
K 5 M. Prater 1 B. Kern
KO 5 M. Prater 1 B. Kern
PR 19 E. Royal
KR 19 E. Royal 23 A. Hall
PC 83 M. Leach 88 T. Scheffler
KC 83 M. Leach
H 1 B. Kern 11 P. Ramsey

Broncos Defense
LE 60 J. Engelberger 91 E. Ekuban 96 T. Crowder
LT 63 D. Robertson 99 A. McKinley 93 N. Clemons
RT 79 M. Thomas 90 K. Peterson
RE 92 E. Dumervil 94 J. Moss
WLB 55 D.J. Williams 51 J. Winborn 59 W. Woodyard
MLB 58 N. Webster 53 N. Koutouvides
SLB 97 B. Bailey 52 L. Green
LCB 24 C. Bailey 22 D. Foxworth 26 J. Williams
RCB 32 D. Bly 41 K. Paymah
SS 33 M. Manuel 21 H. Abdullah 43 R. Rogers
FS 20 M. McCree

Needa Pass Rush
09-01-2008, 11:22 AM
I was making a mountain out of a mole hill with Scheffler. Back listed with the TE's but still 3rd. I know I am a drama queen:

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=134

Broncos Offense

WR 15 B. Marshall

LT 78 R. Clady 64 E. Pears
LG 50 B. Hamilton 67 K. Lichtensteiger
C 66 T. Nalen 62 C. Wiegmann
RG 73 C. Kuper
RT 74 R. Harris 76 T. Polumbus
TE 89 D. Graham 81 N. Jackson 88 T. Scheffler

WR 19 E. Royal 82 D. Jackson 14 B Stokley 13 K. Colbert

QB 6 J. Cutler 11 P. Ramsey
RB 35 S. Young 23 A. Hall 42 R. Torain
FB 48 P. Hillis 28 M. Pittman 46 S. Larsen

Broncos Specialists
P 1 B. Kern
K 5 M. Prater 1 B. Kern
KO 5 M. Prater 1 B. Kern
PR 19 E. Royal
KR 19 E. Royal 23 A. Hall
PC 83 M. Leach 88 T. Scheffler
KC 83 M. Leach
H 1 B. Kern 11 P. Ramsey

Broncos Defense
LE 60 J. Engelberger 91 E. Ekuban 96 T. Crowder
LT 63 D. Robertson 99 A. McKinley 93 N. Clemons
RT 79 M. Thomas 90 K. Peterson
RE 92 E. Dumervil 94 J. Moss
WLB 55 D.J. Williams 51 J. Winborn 59 W. Woodyard
MLB 58 N. Webster 53 N. Koutouvides
SLB 97 B. Bailey 52 L. Green
LCB 24 C. Bailey 22 D. Foxworth 26 J. Williams
RCB 32 D. Bly 41 K. Paymah
SS 33 M. Manuel 21 H. Abdullah 43 R. Rogers
FS 20 M. McCree


Ha! Ha! :bash: Life is good, Apa!

Shoulda listened to NPR!
:thought:

theAPAOps5
09-01-2008, 11:30 AM
I refuse to listen to NPR unless car talk is on. But I will listen to Need A Pass Rush way more often! ;D

telluride
09-01-2008, 11:32 AM
Someone figure out how young a team we are. Our starters have to be among the youngest in the league.

s0phr0syne
09-01-2008, 11:46 AM
Someone figure out how young a team we are. Our starters have to be among the youngest in the league.



Looks like Burger Bill (version e.s.p.n.) anticipated your curiousity...




The Chiefs have 33 players who are in their third year or less and 14 rookies. Denver is going young, too. It has 24 players in their third season or less.



http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest

BlaK-Argentina
09-01-2008, 11:51 AM
I like this team. I really like it.

I'm hoping Ekuban has something left in him and can beat out Engelberger until one of the young guys steps up.

manchambo
09-01-2008, 11:52 AM
Jebus but Crowder has dropped off. He's actually behind Moss. I'm not sure I couldn't beat Moss out.

Borks147
09-01-2008, 11:58 AM
So is Lowry being brought in to be an FS or SS. The scout report indicate he could do either.

Needa Pass Rush
09-01-2008, 02:41 PM
We have a young team that should get better as the year goes on and they learn to trust each others play. If we can find a way to avoid the injury bug we could find our way back to the playoffs! WooHoooo! :)

socalorado
09-01-2008, 02:58 PM
So is Lowry being brought in to be an FS or SS. The scout report indicate he could do either.

I would think he would be better suited to play FS in DEN, but who knows.

Spider
09-01-2008, 03:11 PM
I like Hillis at FB ..... still not sure about the T.E. ........ hope I ma wrong

watermock
09-01-2008, 03:12 PM
They say he's better at zone. FS

azbroncfan
09-01-2008, 03:13 PM
I Broncos Defense
LE 60 J. Engelberger 91 E. Ekuban 96 T. Crowder


Yuk! Another year with either all out blitzes or no pressure on the QB at all.

Prodigal19
09-01-2008, 03:36 PM
other than dropping off the cut players this still hasn't really been updated since before the last preseason game.

Los Broncos
09-01-2008, 03:42 PM
Yuk! Another year with either all out blitzes or no pressure on the QB at all.

Why do they even keep him?

Kaylore
09-01-2008, 03:48 PM
That's interesting that Larsen's listed as a fullback on the roster.

Popps
09-01-2008, 03:52 PM
Why do they even keep him?

No one can figure it out... outside of the speculation that he's a good practice-player.

I've got no problem with him in a reserve role, but as a starter he's a disaster.

People are tired of me b****ing about it, but he's half of our DE tandem, and should really be generating half of the pass-rush on a regular basis.

He piles up decent clean-up stats as far as tackles, but if you watch him on a given play... he's absolutely pushed to the ground like a pop-warner player if they run right at him. He's stalemated on almost every play.

Honestly, I can't imagine there's a less dynamic starter in the league.

He's had two sacks in THREE SEAONS, much of that as a starter.

theAPAOps5
09-01-2008, 04:15 PM
other than dropping off the cut players this still hasn't really been updated since before the last preseason game.

Yeah except it also lists Hillis as starting FB and other details we have been discussing but yeah I guess nothings really changed.

montrose
09-01-2008, 05:08 PM
This one was just released as of 9/1/08
http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=134

DENVER BRONCOS 2008 DEPTH CHART
(as of Sept. 1, 2008)

Broncos Offense
WR 82 D. Jackson 85 K. Colbert
LT 78 R. Clady 76 T. Polumbus
LG 50 B. Hamilton 67 K. Lichtensteiger
C 66 T. Nalen 62 C. Wiegmann
RG 73 C. Kuper 67 K. Lichtensteiger
RT 74 R. Harris 76 T. Polumbus
TE 89 D. Graham 88 T. Scheffler 81 N. Jackson
WR 19 E. Royal 14 B Stokley 13 K. Colbert
QB 6 J. Cutler 11 P. Ramsey
RB 35 S. Young 23 A. Hall 28 M. Pittman 42 R. Torain
FB 48 P. Hillis 28 M. Pittman 46 S. Larsen

Broncos Specialists
P 1 B. Kern 5 M. Prater
K 5 M. Prater 1 B. Kern
KO 5 M. Prater 1 B. Kern
PR 19 E. Royal 82 D. Jackson 32 D. Bly
KR 19 E. Royal 23 A. Hall 28 M. Pittman
PC 83 M. Leach 88 T. Scheffler
KC 83 M. Leach 73 C. Kuper 88 T. Scheffler
H 1 B. Kern 6 J. Cutler 11 P. Ramsey

Broncos Defense
LE 60 J. Engelberger 91 E. Ekuban 96 T. Crowder
LT 63 D. Robertson 90 K. Peterson 93 N. Clemons
RT 79 M. Thomas 99 A. McKinley
RE 92 E. Dumervil 94 J. Moss
WLB 55 D.J. Williams 59 W. Woodyard
MLB 58 N. Webster 53 N. Koutouvides
SLB 97 B. Bailey 51 J. Winborn 52 L. Green
LCB 24 C. Bailey 22 D. Foxworth 26 J. Williams
RCB 32 D. Bly 41 K. Paymah
SS 33 M. Manuel 21 H. Abdullah
FS 20 M. McCree 37 C. Lowry

azbroncfan
09-01-2008, 05:11 PM
No one can figure it out... outside of the speculation that he's a good practice-player.

I've got no problem with him in a reserve role, but as a starter he's a disaster.

People are tired of me b****ing about it, but he's half of our DE tandem, and should really be generating half of the pass-rush on a regular basis.

He piles up decent clean-up stats as far as tackles, but if you watch him on a given play... he's absolutely pushed to the ground like a pop-warner player if they run right at him. He's stalemated on almost every play.

Honestly, I can't imagine there's a less dynamic starter in the league.

He's had two sacks in THREE SEAONS, much of that as a starter.

Come on Popps! This guy is the HARDEST worker on the team and that right there should make him a starter since we need good work ethic examples. Who cares if all that hard work goes into spinning your wheels and accomplishing nothing other than a lot of clean up tackles down the field from time to time. Who cares if he can't rush the passer without any pass rush move other than the balked 10 second bull rush.

Popps you are completely out of line and just have hate for the guy because this guy completely works his tail off and is the hardest worker on the team. :D

chanesaw
09-01-2008, 05:11 PM
I see no mention of Pears.

Inkana7
09-01-2008, 05:12 PM
ZOMG! Scheffler is 2nd string!

theAPAOps5
09-01-2008, 05:30 PM
ZOMG! Scheffler is 2nd string!

The mind game worked! See I knew Scheffler just had to get his hands on some pictures!!!!!!!!!!!! 8')

no-pseudo-fan
09-01-2008, 05:30 PM
Hillis has been a monster lead blocker, and a weapon in the passing game. I am happy about the line up, but I do wish Scheff was higher on the depth chart.

theAPAOps5
09-01-2008, 05:32 PM
The also reordered the LB depth. Which looks more like what it did in the games.

CasinoRoyal
09-01-2008, 05:39 PM
Engleberger is officially one of Shannyz "guys"......

Dude starts regardless of how much he sucks.

Ratboy
09-01-2008, 06:07 PM
Tony is ahead of Nate Jackson on the DC? I can sleep tonight!

theAPAOps5
09-01-2008, 06:36 PM
Tony is ahead of Nate Jackson on the DC? I can sleep tonight!

Nate Jackson must have gotten hurt in practice today......

kappys
09-01-2008, 07:49 PM
It really doesn't matter what kind of pass rush you fail to generate when opposing teams avg 5+ yards per rush. Other teams are going to try and run us into the ground this year - especially if the Denver Offense lives up to its potential.

Engelberger is about the only run stopper we have on that line. Hopefully Robertson and Thomas step up - if they can then it will allow us to use Engelberger more in short yardage situations only - but if that doesn't happen he's the only.

Kaylore
09-01-2008, 09:29 PM
This one was just released as of 9/1/08
http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=134

DENVER BRONCOS 2008 DEPTH CHART
(as of Sept. 1, 2008)

Broncos Offense
WR 82 D. Jackson 85 K. Colbert
LT 78 R. Clady 76 T. Polumbus
LG 50 B. Hamilton 67 K. Lichtensteiger
C 66 T. Nalen 62 C. Wiegmann
RG 73 C. Kuper 67 K. Lichtensteiger
RT 74 R. Harris 76 T. Polumbus
TE 89 D. Graham 88 T. Scheffler 81 N. Jackson
WR 19 E. Royal 14 B Stokley 13 K. Colbert
QB 6 J. Cutler 11 P. Ramsey
RB 35 S. Young 23 A. Hall 28 M. Pittman 42 R. Torain
FB 48 P. Hillis 28 M. Pittman 46 S. Larsen

Broncos Specialists
P 1 B. Kern 5 M. Prater
K 5 M. Prater 1 B. Kern
KO 5 M. Prater 1 B. Kern
PR 19 E. Royal 82 D. Jackson 32 D. Bly
KR 19 E. Royal 23 A. Hall 28 M. Pittman
PC 83 M. Leach 88 T. Scheffler
KC 83 M. Leach 73 C. Kuper 88 T. Scheffler
H 1 B. Kern 6 J. Cutler 11 P. Ramsey

Broncos Defense
LE 60 J. Engelberger 91 E. Ekuban 96 T. Crowder
LT 63 D. Robertson 90 K. Peterson 93 N. Clemons
RT 79 M. Thomas 99 A. McKinley
RE 92 E. Dumervil 94 J. Moss
WLB 55 D.J. Williams 59 W. Woodyard
MLB 58 N. Webster 53 N. Koutouvides
SLB 97 B. Bailey 51 J. Winborn 52 L. Green
LCB 24 C. Bailey 22 D. Foxworth 26 J. Williams
RCB 32 D. Bly 41 K. Paymah
SS 33 M. Manuel 21 H. Abdullah
FS 20 M. McCree 37 C. Lowry
That looks much better. Woodyard is the backup Will. Winborn plays Sam. Scheffler is the number 2 and D-Jack will be the number one with Royal the number 2 and the slot machine as the third. Larsen still listed as a "FB" officially. I'm still not sure if that's just a way to stash him on the roster or if they really want to play with him there. I hope he can make some noise on special teams. I also hope Kern proves the Broncos right on the punting situation for once.