What Does The Vice President Do?

[frerottenextelway]

Don't ask Sarah Palin, she doesn't know either:

"As for that V.P. talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the V.P. does every day?" (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12969.html)

Surprising she doesn't know the job, considering her vast wealth of experience. Before becoming Governor for a year and a half of the 4th smallest state in the Union -- where she's already is facing ethics violations (http://www.adn.com/monegan/story/492964.html) -- she was part-time mayor of the major city of Wasilla Alaska (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasilla,_Alaska), a major metropolis with its 5,470 residents making decisions that have affected upwards of a dozen people's lives.

But she is a woman. As Chuck Todd said:

They really wanted to pick a woman, and there were no obvious choices.

Now that's sound judgement, being able to find a Republican who's also a woman who's also has the vast wealth of experience his campaign is being run on -- like a small town mayor recently turned (corrupt) Governor of the influential state of Alaska.

At least she'll rally her base, being to the Right Jerry Falwell and all. It's great to have someone running for this office that disregards science and wants creationism (http://scienceblogs.com/afarensis/2006/10/27/intelligent_design_and_the_ala/) -- the idea that God put humans on the earth 2,000 years ago and evolution is a myth -- taught in public schools.

But, maybe this isn't for short-term dividends, maybe this will pay off down the road.

Lets see what fellow Repubican Joe Scarborough has to say:

I can't imagine a woman that's been a governor for a year and a half, but to debate Joe Biden on Georgia, a remerging Russia, an emerging China and India, on the Middle East, my God, how does she do that?

That should go over well. While Biden talks about staring dictators down, Palin can relate her experiences, like maybe she helped Eskimo Joe rebuild his Igloo or something.

At least the trainwreck this is sure to become will keep McCain in the headlines.

[frerottenextelway]

Holy Crap, McCain picked Paris Hilton.

[NaptownChief]

Wow....A Democrat trying to challenge the experience of a former mayor and a governor when they nominated a "community organizer" for President.

That is funny.

[NaptownChief]

That should go over well. While Biden talks about staring dictators down, Palin can relate her experiences, like maybe she helped Eskimo Joe rebuild his Igloo or something.




When Obama is asked the same question he can talk about how he and John Ayers raised money together and talked about wishing they had the chance to blow up the Pentagon again.

[Rigs11]

Yeah let's see if mccsame will continue with the attacks on obama about experience.then we will have the yahoos coming in here stating that experience doesn't matter for vice.

[NaptownChief]

Yeah let's see if mccsame will continue with the attacks on obama about experience.then we will have the yahoos coming in here stating that experience doesn't matter for vice.


If it doesn't matter for President then why should it for VP's?

[gunns]

I think Biden is licking his chops right now.

[Hotrod]

I think Biden is licking his chops right now.

While you are probebly correct he had better be careful how he handles this. If he is seen to be a bully towards her it could blow up in his face.

[frerottenextelway]

Wow....A Democrat trying to challenge the experience of a former mayor and a governor when they nominated a "community organizer" for President.

That is funny.

Yeah, a part-time mayor of Wasilla Alaska is real impressive compared to 8 years in the state senate of a major state and a U.S. Senator.

McCain has run his campaign on ''experience'' -- Obama has not -- and said the most important part of picking a VP is someone who could step in to be President. And he picks the mayor of Wasilla?

[gunns]

While you are probebly correct he had better be careful how he handles this. If he is seen to be a bully towards her it could blow up in his face.

And that was the difference with Hillary. We didn't have to worry about any one bullying her.

The question when looking at the VP is, what if this person is forced into the Presidency. Is this a person we want? Cracked up as one of the media said she's just a hearbeat from becoming the President.

[Hotrod]

And that was the difference with Hillary. We didn't have to worry about any one bullying her.

The question when looking at the VP is, what if this person is forced into the Presidency. Is this a person we want? Cracked up as one of the media said she's just a hearbeat from becoming the President.

I agree with everything you are saying but there is some portion of the female population that WILL infact vote because of her. I'm not saying it right or a good thing but sadly its probebly true.

As a righty I'm sick of the current direction of my party. McCain and some lady I've never heard of from Alaska is that honestly the best we could do.

We are going to get your ass handed to us in November.

[Rigs11]

If it doesn't matter for President then why should it for VP's?
Exactly my point, if it doesn't matter, will mcsame continue to attack obama on this? i think he will, which will come back and bite him in the ass.

[frerottenextelway]

http://bp3.blogger.com/_uExTzMIDd1Y/R5nSCJswFaI/AAAAAAAAAgs/9gkOWxvaCxs/s200/Sarah-Palin-Vogue.jpg

[DBruleU]

http://bp3.blogger.com/_uExTzMIDd1Y/R5nSCJswFaI/AAAAAAAAAgs/9gkOWxvaCxs/s200/Sarah-Palin-Vogue.jpg

At least republican women are good looking.

[DBruleU]

Yeah, a part-time mayor of Wasilla Alaska is real impressive compared to 8 years in the state senate of a major state and a U.S. Senator.

McCain has run his campaign on ''experience'' -- Obama has not -- and said the most important part of picking a VP is someone who could step in to be President. And he picks the mayor of Wasilla?

Uh no, he picked the Gov. of Alaska. Having been mayor was just a plus.

[Smiling Assassin27]

sad when obama finishes 4th in experience even to joey hairplugs, who himself ripped obama for being a pretender in the primaries.

this lady had a Downs baby and decided to honor its dignity by having it and raising it, while obama would call her kid a punishment and give the okey dokey to kill it even after it survives the abortion attempt. advantage: palin

[gunns]

sad when obama finishes 4th in experience even to joey hairplugs, who himself ripped obama for being a pretender in the primaries.

this lady had a Downs baby and decided to honor its dignity by having it and raising it, while obama would call her kid a punishment and give the okey dokey to kill it even after it survives the abortion attempt. advantage: palin


How do you know Obama would call her kid a punishment? I highly doubt it. I think Obama respects a human's right to live and keeping government out of peoples personal lives and decisions. Bush has been in office for 8 years, and most of the last 4 was on the premise he would quash abortion rights. Has it happened? Does that make him for abortion? Please.

[Smiling Assassin27]

How do you know Obama would call her kid a punishment? I highly doubt it. I think Obama respects a human's right to live and keeping government out of peoples personal lives and decisions. Bush has been in office for 8 years, and most of the last 4 was on the premise he would quash abortion rights. Has it happened? Does that make him for abortion? Please.


No offense, but take some time and investigate Obama's position on abortion and infanticide--it's utterly nonsensical, repugnant, and shameful. If Obama could actually make an argument that's coherent on this, he'd get some credit, but his voting record and vow to sign the Freedom of Choice Act as his VERY FIRST action as president speaks volumes.

By the way, Bush, in appointing Alito and Roberts actually DID effect abortion 'rights' for another generation.

[TailgateNut]

No offense, but take some time and investigate Obama's position on abortion and infanticide--it's utterly nonsensical, repugnant, and shameful. If Obama could actually make an argument that's coherent on this, he'd get some credit, but his voting record and vow to sign the Freedom of Choice Act as his VERY FIRST action as president speaks volumes.

By the way, Bush, in appointing Alito and Roberts actually DID effect abortion 'rights' for another generation.


I hear he's also for "Clubbing of baby seals":spit:

My motto after decades of "dealing" with women/mothers is: Men have no right to tell women/mothers what to do with their bodies. PERIOD!

[Hotrod]

I hear he's also for "Clubbing of baby seals":spit:

My motto after decades of "dealing" with women/mothers is: Men have no right to tell women/mothers what to do with their bodies. PERIOD!

Fair enough as long as they dont tell me what to do with my $, beer, or tv remote. :)

[Dudeskey]

At least republican women are good looking.

But put out like nuns... I'm kidding.

[Rohirrim]

I think Biden is licking his chops right now.

And trying not to drool. This will be worse than Perot's guy (I forget his name) he suddenly blurted out, "Why am I here?" :rofl:

[Rohirrim]

sad when obama finishes 4th in experience even to joey hairplugs, who himself ripped obama for being a pretender in the primaries.

this lady had a Downs baby and decided to honor its dignity by having it and raising it, while obama would call her kid a punishment and give the okey dokey to kill it even after it survives the abortion attempt. advantage: palin

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeach! Ha!

[Rigs11]

sad when obama finishes 4th in experience even to joey hairplugs, who himself ripped obama for being a pretender in the primaries.

this lady had a Downs baby and decided to honor its dignity by having it and raising it, while obama would call her kid a punishment and give the okey dokey to kill it even after it survives the abortion attempt. advantage: palin

what's sad is that these "pro lifers" are staunch opponents of abortion, yet they stand idly by and support a president that sends their kids to die in an unjust war.

[TailgateNut]

what's sad is that these "pro lifers" are staunch opponents of abortion, yet they stand idly by and support a president that sends their kids to die in an unjust war.

...and don't give a flying **** about children once they are born. Who needs healthcare? Who needs a quality education? Once they are born, **** 'em.

[Rohirrim]

As far as answering the question, "What does the VP do?" Just ask Cheney. They run the entire government. ;D

[RaiderH8r]

I think Biden is licking his chops right now.

No, he's getting more hair plugs and teeth whitening.

[NaptownChief]

By the time October rolls around Hussein Obama will likely look like a retarded Benedict Arnold when McCain and the republicans get done with him.

This is an election that the Dems could have put a monkey up for the nomination and ran away with the election given the current landscape and unpopularity of Bush.....yet they picked somebody who is going to blow a complete gimme. Only the Democrats could blow this one and they will.

[Rohirrim]

By the time October rolls around Hussein Obama will likely look like a retarded Benedict Arnold when McCain and the republicans get done with him.

This is an election that the Dems could have put a monkey up for the nomination and ran away with the election given the current landscape and unpopularity of Bush.....yet they picked somebody who is going to blow a complete gimme. Only the Democrats could blow this one and they will.

Every time you post I shake my head in wonder at your retarded and abusive takes, but then I remember, "He's a Chief fan" and all is made clear.

[Beantown Bronco]

This is an election that the Dems could have put a monkey up for the nomination and ran away with the election given the current landscape and unpopularity of Bush.....yet they picked somebody who is going to blow a complete gimme. Only the Democrats could blow this one and they will.

You're confusing 2008 with 2004.

[gunns]

No offense, but take some time and investigate Obama's position on abortion and infanticide--it's utterly nonsensical, repugnant, and shameful. If Obama could actually make an argument that's coherent on this, he'd get some credit, but his voting record and vow to sign the Freedom of Choice Act as his VERY FIRST action as president speaks volumes.

By the way, Bush, in appointing Alito and Roberts actually DID effect abortion 'rights' for another generation.

I have and he's for women's right to choose. I'm against abortion for my own personal reasons. I feel this is a state issue, not federal and a woman's choice. How did Bush affect abortion rights for another generation? Regardless, it's still legal.

[frerottenextelway]

Mayor Palin previously called Hillary a "whiner".

That's going to go over so well. Clinton will come out and rip her a new one.

[Hotrod]

Mayor Palin previously called Hillary a "whiner".
That's going to go over so well. Clinton will come out and rip her a new one.

I'm starting to like the lady. She obviously knows a whiner when she sees one.

[Garcia Bronco]

How do you know Obama would call her kid a punishment? I highly doubt it. I think Obama respects a human's right to live and keeping government out of peoples personal lives and decisions. Bush has been in office for 8 years, and most of the last 4 was on the premise he would quash abortion rights. Has it happened? Does that make him for abortion? Please.

Not according to his voting record in his state. He voted down legislation 3 times that would outlaw live abortions.

[NaptownChief]

Every time you post I shake my head in wonder at your retarded and abusive takes, but then I remember, "He's a Chief fan" and all is made clear.



Poor whittle baby...."abusive takes" getting you down? You liberals thought it was written in the constitution somewhere that only liberals are allowed to fire off heated takes. But I like to come along and remind you that they can be fired from both sides and Obama is going to make it extremely easy.

[frerottenextelway]

Not according to his voting record in his state. He voted down legislation 3 times that would outlaw live abortions.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/08/20/america/abortion.php

But the Illinois proposal always had a companion bill. The accompanying legislation, called the Induced Infant Liability Act, would have allowed legal action "on the child's behalf for damages, including costs of care to preserve and protect the life, health and safety of the child, punitive damages, and costs and attorney's fees, against a hospital, health care facility or health care provider who harms or neglects the child or fails to provide medical care to the child after the child's birth."

Groups that favor abortion rights say that bill would have introduced the possibility that doctors could be sued for failing to take extraordinary measures to save the lives of pre-viable infants, those born so prematurely that they could not possibly survive. As a result, they argue, it is disingenuous of anti-abortion organizations to claim that Obama was moving to quash only a narrow and innocuous definitional bill identical to U.S. law.

"I can tell you the sponsors always wanted the entire package of bills, which were introduced together and analyzed together," said Pam Sutherland, who was president of the Illinois branch of Planned Parenthood at the time. "They never wanted them separated, because they wanted to make sure that physicians would be chilled into not performing abortions for fear of going to jail."

If you actually look at the record, the Bill was an all out attack on Roe v. Wade and lets the GOP minions do their trademark "half-true total lie" story that the votes against this were over ''live birth''.

[Garcia Bronco]

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/08/20/america/abortion.php



If you actually look at the record, the Bill was an all out attack on Roe v. Wade and lets the GOP minions do their trademark "half-true total lie" story that the votes against this were over ''live birth''.

They altered the bill sceveral times and added his suggestions and he still voted it down.

[Rohirrim]

Poor whittle baby...."abusive takes" getting you down? You liberals thought it was written in the constitution somewhere that only liberals are allowed to fire off heated takes. But I like to come along and remind you that they can be fired from both sides and Obama is going to make it extremely easy.

It has nothing to do with politics. All of your posts on all subjects are basically abusive and classless. It's just who you are.

[frerottenextelway]

They altered the bill sceveral times and added his suggestions and he still voted it down.

Whatever.

The bill is online:

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=1083&GAID=3&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=3911&SessionID=3&GA=93

I see what it says and it says what I said.

Creates the Induced Birth Infant Liability Act and amends the State Finance Act. Provides that, if a child is born alive after an induced labor abortion or other abortion, a parent of the child or the public guardian may maintain an action on the child's behalf for damages, including costs of care to preserve and protect the life, health, and safety of the child, punitive damages, and costs and attorney's fees, against a hospital, health care facility, or health care provider who harms or neglects the child or fails to provide medical care to the child after the child's birth.

[TexanBob]

In a sane world, Sarah Palin would be totally unqualified to be Vice President. But, then again, in a sane world, Barack Obama is totally unqualified to be President.

The McCain camp has picked someone that will pay off handsomely in three ways:

a) They are making Democrats look like hypocrites for pooh-poohing Obama's absolute lack of experience to be president everytime they express concern about Palin's lack of experience. Only a blind idiot cannot notice the irony there.

b) They are making a play for female voters that are already miffed that the Democrats yanked the nomination away from Hillary and basically told the women to shut up and do what they're told.

c) McCain is solidifying his credentials with a conservative base that still views him with suspicion if not outright contempt for his many strays off the GOP reservation.

It's too bad that she doesn't have a few more years of experience going for her but she has enough of a maverick streak in her (she has gone after several office-holders in her own party in Alaska) for McCain to claim that she isn't just a toady.

But you libs go right on ahead talking about "experience" because every post you make and every word you speak against Palin only points out that your boy has no experience either - and he's running for the top job, not the back-up.

[Rohirrim]

Obama has slightly more experience than Abraham Lincoln had.

[TheDave]

a) They are making Democrats look like hypocrites for pooh-poohing Obama's absolute lack of experience to be president everytime they express concern about Palin's lack of experience. Only a blind idiot cannot notice the irony there.


This has nothing to do with what the "Libs" are saying... Your boy just marginalized his own attack adds. If experience was really as important as McSame keeps saying it is then his running mate would of had some of it. Looks like the McSame camp better hope that the "closet muslim/terrorist" emails gain some traction.

[TexanBob]

Obama has slightly more experience than Abraham Lincoln had.

Has Obama ever had to veto a bill?
Has Obama ever had to balance a government budget?

Palin has.

Other than be one of 100s of votes in a state or U.S. Senate, what has Obama done to show executive experience?

[CasinoRoyal]

Has Obama ever had to veto a bill?
Has Obama ever had to balance a government budget?

Palin has.

Other than be one of 100s of votes in a state or U.S. Senate, what has Obama done to show executive experience?

She was the governor of 7000 people.......

And for one year...

[Hotrod]

Has Obama ever had to veto a bill?
Has Obama ever had to balance a government budget?

Palin has.

Other than be one of 100s of votes in a state or U.S. Senate, what has Obama done to show executive experience?

I've seen him wear a suit and read a teleprompter thats something.

[Rohirrim]

Has Obama ever had to veto a bill?
Has Obama ever had to balance a government budget?

Palin has.

Other than be one of 100s of votes in a state or U.S. Senate, what has Obama done to show executive experience?

This woman has all the gravitas as one of my local poll workers.

"Would you like a cookie?"

[Bronco Bob]

Has Obama ever had to veto a bill?
Has Obama ever had to balance a government budget?

Palin has.



Oh yes, it must be really hard to balance the state budget of a state
with an entire population 1/4 that of of the Denver metro area.
Not to mention that Alaska is so awash in oil money that each
citizen gets a rebate of $1,000 each year.

[NaptownChief]

It has nothing to do with politics. All of your posts on all subjects are basically abusive and classless. It's just who you are.




Not even close but I would expect nothing less from a liberal. Make up lies to try and discredit anyone who does agree with your socialist borderline communist politics.

The wacko liberals have become nothing more than a bag for of disgruntled, bitter people that hate anything and everything that resembles success or happiness. They bask in negativity. You want to piss a liberal, pull up a seat in a college town coffee shop and smile while conversing about how happy you are and how good life is.

[Rohirrim]

Not even close but I would expect nothing less from a liberal. Make up lies to try and discredit anyone who does agree with your socialist borderline communist politics.

The wacko liberals have become nothing more than a bag for of disgruntled, bitter people that hate anything and everything that resembles success or happiness. They bask in negativity. You want to piss a liberal, pull up a seat in a college town coffee shop and smile while conversing about how happy you are and how good life is.

Now I'm a liberal? You obviously don't come in here much, but that doesn't stop you from slinging your ignorant turds, does it? I guess the success of Obama is unhinging the trailer park denizens ie., the general population of Chiefdom. You want to piss off a Cheffie, tell him he can't park his Camaro on the grass in front of the trailer park.

[NaptownChief]

I guess the success of Obama is unhinging the trailer park .


Took that one out of the Obama playbook eh....Just like when he lost to Hillary in Pennsylvania. Rather than accept he lost he decided to insult the smalltown people as ignorant, bitter bible beaters since enough of them didn't vote for him.

If you are a big Obama backer then I don't need to hang out in here long to know you are of the liberal flavor as he is as liberal of a presidential candidate this country has ever had.

[NaptownChief]

Oh yes, it must be really hard to balance the state budget of a state
with an entire population 1/4 that of of the Denver metro area..


Wow I had no idea Denver's population was 2.5 million. That is a ton of growth since I was there 4 months ago.

[gunns]

Not according to his voting record in his state. He voted down legislation 3 times that would outlaw live abortions.

I'm not saying he has not voted for abortion. I said he would not call her child a punishment. Just because someone is for a woman's right to choose does not mean he/she does not value a human's right to live. People on the right try to make monsters out of anyone that does not believe as they do. And look at the monster they put in the White House. You guys worry about a woman choosing abortion, I'll worry about those dying in Iraq, in New Orleans, those that don't have healthcare and die because of that lack, about my social security that may not be there.

[sisterhellfyre]

I've seen him wear a suit and read a teleprompter thats something.

:shrug: That's more than Dubya could manage.

Regards,
m.

[Drek]

In a sane world, Sarah Palin would be totally unqualified to be Vice President. But, then again, in a sane world, Barack Obama is totally unqualified to be President.

The McCain camp has picked someone that will pay off handsomely in three ways:

a) They are making Democrats look like hypocrites for pooh-poohing Obama's absolute lack of experience to be president everytime they express concern about Palin's lack of experience. Only a blind idiot cannot notice the irony there.
Actually, this works in complete reverse, as no one in the democratic party has called out Palin's experience. Instead they've simply asked why a campaign ran on condemning the other guy's lack of experience saw fit to pick a VP, behind a 73 year old candidate, who has even less experience than the guy they're trying to condemn.

b) They are making a play for female voters that are already miffed that the Democrats yanked the nomination away from Hillary and basically told the women to shut up and do what they're told.
Did you watch any of the DNCC? Hillary was given a prime spotlight and basically the first two and a half days was an up with women movement.

Also, do you REALLY think the feminists who are still holdouts for Hillary are going to support a woman who has called her a whiner and who opposes abortion even in cases of rape and incest?

Rush Limbaugh is Palin's biggest celebrity endorser, that is all 99% of Hillary's supporters are going to need to know. This is low grade pandering, but being done to a group that actually follows issues, not pandering to the evangelical right who don't educate themselves.

This aspect also engenders the hugest risk. The Clintons do not take well to someone trying to upstage them. The republicans could've gone any number of other directions and the Clintons likely just walk off into the sunset within a week after the convention and aren't heard from again until after the election. Now they just gave them prime reason to come out full bore against McCain/Palin. I'd be surprised if Hillary's campaigning schedule doesn't double or triple, minimum, in the next week or so.

c) McCain is solidifying his credentials with a conservative base that still views him with suspicion if not outright contempt for his many strays off the GOP reservation.
From everything I've heard the conservative base is rather pissed, as you said she's gone after people within her own party before and she is only truly a moral conservative.

She's also got basically no platform, and only 60 days to develop one.

It is abundantly clear that Palin as VP was a panic move. She hadn't stumped for him ANYWHERE this campaign season, then suddenly she's flying in on a gulf stream early this morning?

Pawlenty was the pick but Obama stepped out onto the field at Mile High and instead of throwing mud like the republicans are so apt to do he threw a rock and it hit their arguments against him dead on. They were expecting another dem softy like Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry who will just take all the **** the GOP spews in every election. Turns out they got a fighter, and one who is better at redirecting and attacking back than they ever knew.

They **** a brick and they chose a candidate who has absolutely zero platform or previous momentum even within her own party. They've got 60 days to sell America that she's ready to be president, despite less than two years of gubernatorial experience. There is some chance they succeed and maybe, just maybe, enough feminists just ignore issues and vote for the ticket that will set women's rights back 40 years but happens to have a woman on the ticket. But there is a much bigger chance they just made the blunder that ends this supposedly close race.

And good luck battling Joe Biden in a VP debate. He can skewer her all he wants, before she was even a member of the PTA Joe Biden was writing and pushing through the Violence Against Women Act. He's got more feminist good will than just about any man in our country.

[Bronco Bob]

Wow I had no idea Denver's population was 2.5 million. That is a ton of growth since I was there 4 months ago.

The Denver metro population is 2,464,866, to be exact.
See, you learn something new every day.

[Traveler]

OT: Did anyone else see Mac-Cane sneeking a peek at Palin's behind as she was giving her speech?

At first I thought he was looking down, but then he kept staring, only looking away when she turned toward him. Was I seeing things?

[frerottenextelway]

Took that one out of the Obama playbook eh....Just like when he lost to Hillary in Pennsylvania. Rather than accept he lost he decided to insult the smalltown people as ignorant, bitter bible beaters since enough of them didn't vote for him.

If you are a big Obama backer then I don't need to hang out in here long to know you are of the liberal flavor as he is as liberal of a presidential candidate this country has ever had.

The quote you're referencing was before the PA election.

If you can't even get basic facts on gossip politics right, I doubt you have a f'n clue on policy. I doubt you ever read a single bill or watched or listened to a single session of Congress, yet you're one of the typical whackjobs masquerading as having a clue based on lame "talking points" spread from redstate or the Hannity Klan. Get a f'n clue.

[Spider]

LOL Clinton vs Palin amounts to putting a pit pull up against an alligator ...... Clinton will rip this woman apart ..it wont be pretty , Palin already tried to smooth the waters by saying she Admired Hillary for her courage , but we all know the Clintons , Nothing Palin can say now will save her political skin .Even Reps will admit the Clintons are ruthless to their enemies

[Spider]

Took that one out of the Obama playbook eh....Just like when he lost to Hillary in Pennsylvania. Rather than accept he lost he decided to insult the smalltown people as ignorant, bitter bible beaters since enough of them didn't vote for him.

If you are a big Obama backer then I don't need to hang out in here long to know you are of the liberal flavor as he is as liberal of a presidential candidate this country has ever had.

Did you suffer head trauma ? the quote was before the PA outcome you dipsh1t

[Play2win]

I have and he's for women's right to choose. I'm against abortion for my own personal reasons. I feel this is a state issue, not federal and a woman's choice. How did Bush affect abortion rights for another generation? Regardless, it's still legal.

Thank you. :thanku:

[defenseman]

Wow I had no idea Denver's population was 2.5 million. That is a ton of growth since I was there 4 months ago.

WAY TOO MUCH traffic also. It has taken alot of lustre off of Denver. Terrible traffic problems...dman

[ghwk]

In a sane world, Sarah Palin would be totally unqualified to be Vice President. But, then again, in a sane world, Barack Obama is totally unqualified to be President.

The McCain camp has picked someone that will pay off handsomely in three ways:

a) They are making Democrats look like hypocrites for pooh-poohing Obama's absolute lack of experience to be president everytime they express concern about Palin's lack of experience. Only a blind idiot cannot notice the irony there.

b) They are making a play for female voters that are already miffed that the Democrats yanked the nomination away from Hillary and basically told the women to shut up and do what they're told.

c) McCain is solidifying his credentials with a conservative base that still views him with suspicion if not outright contempt for his many strays off the GOP reservation.

It's too bad that she doesn't have a few more years of experience going for her but she has enough of a maverick streak in her (she has gone after several office-holders in her own party in Alaska) for McCain to claim that she isn't just a toady.

But you libs go right on ahead talking about "experience" because every post you make and every word you speak against Palin only points out that your boy has no experience either - and he's running for the top job, not the back-up.

I'll skip a) because it has been well dealt with elsewhere.

b) As I stated in another thread this is an absurdity of logic on the Repubs part if they think this will be successful. Only women who would only vote for another woman will vote for Palin. There are a few of those in Hillary's base but not many. Otherwise McCain had the conservative mom vote anyway. The rest of Hillary's base will vote for a Democrat before a creationist pro-lifer. Anyother undecided woman will probably view the choice as pandering and not vote for McCain.

c) This is the same hypocritical base that would be screaming what a sh**ty mother a Dem would be if she were accepting a VP nomination with 5 kids at home, one with Downs.

And while we are on her pro-lifer "I'll tell everyone else what to do with their body point of view" how do we know she really ever had to confront the choice of having this child or not? I'm a father of two. I was well acquainted with the risks of having kids later in life and there are standard tests offered to help determine the health of the fetus. Did she have these done? If she knew the child was to be born with Downs would she have termed the pregnancy? If you are a pro-lifer there's no moral reason to have the tests because you will give birth no matter what. But until YOU are the one that actually has to make the choice that will affect YOUR life and the CHILD's for both lifetimes based on the knowledge that your unborn child will have Downs, the conservative repubs can just stick this little speaking point about Mrs. Hottie up their patoots until they show she actually had to make it.

[TheDave]

WAY TOO MUCH traffic also. It has taken alot of lustre off of Denver. Terrible traffic problems...dman

Traffic?... hell if you think denver has "terrible traffic problems" may I suggest you never go anywhere near Southern California.

[defenseman]

Traffic?... hell if you think denver has "terrible traffic problems" may I suggest you never go anywhere near Southern California.

SC is a DISASTER, been there often also, especially San Diego........both places are on my list of places NEVER to live.... waterfront somewhere with a fairly large population, goods, and services w/in 45 mins is where I'll end up... a military installation w/in 45 minutes also.....dman

[TonyR]

I had been reluctant to acknowledge how flawed and dead the conservative movement has become; that's over now. No more excuses, no more clinging to old visions of rational discourse and principled debate. I really have witnessed the death of conservatism and its replacement by a kind of toxic babbitry which would be merely laughable or cringeworthy if it were not also so extraordinarily dangerous.

This election year has been a series of revelations and disillusionments--the crudely ugly tactics of Limbaugh and Hannity (and--worse--their embrace by Buckley's heirs at National Review), the thinly-veiled racism and nativism of the campaign against Obama, the transparently cruel and God-hating ideology of movement Christians; but--even though dismayed by McCain's bizarre campaign--I had retained some illusions as recently as this morning. I believed McCain to be at least a patriot, sincerely concerned with issues of national security.

His nomination of Sarah Palin ended that illusion, too.
No remotely serious politician--no honest patriot--would think of placing this individual a heartbeat away from the Oval Office, however admirable she may be, however lively her biography.

Moreover, the elation on the right regarding Palin's nomination made clear to me that none of them has ever been remotely serious about national security, either. On the contrary, as the left has insisted for years, for them it really has all been about political advantage, noise and bluster and ugliness with no core of principle, no genuine strategic commitment.

The very same people who, only yesterday, insisted that Obama's resume was too dangerously thin to entrust him with the oversight of our national security, today are celebrating Palin's accession as a triumph for conservatism (evidently this is because she is hostile to both abortion and polar bears). Their hypocrisy is staggering--they truly do believe in nothing but their own entitlement to power by any means.

And I'm very much afraid I must conclude this is as true of McCain as it is of his ghastly cheerleaders, the Limbaughs and the Hannitys. Nothing else could explain the elevation of a woman so singularly unqualified in every aspect save gender.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/american-conser.html#more

[Rohirrim]

I had been reluctant to acknowledge how flawed and dead the conservative movement has become; that's over now. No more excuses, no more clinging to old visions of rational discourse and principled debate. I really have witnessed the death of conservatism and its replacement by a kind of toxic babbitry which would be merely laughable or cringeworthy if it were not also so extraordinarily dangerous.

This election year has been a series of revelations and disillusionments--the crudely ugly tactics of Limbaugh and Hannity (and--worse--their embrace by Buckley's heirs at National Review), the thinly-veiled racism and nativism of the campaign against Obama, the transparently cruel and God-hating ideology of movement Christians; but--even though dismayed by McCain's bizarre campaign--I had retained some illusions as recently as this morning. I believed McCain to be at least a patriot, sincerely concerned with issues of national security.

His nomination of Sarah Palin ended that illusion, too.
No remotely serious politician--no honest patriot--would think of placing this individual a heartbeat away from the Oval Office, however admirable she may be, however lively her biography.

Moreover, the elation on the right regarding Palin's nomination made clear to me that none of them has ever been remotely serious about national security, either. On the contrary, as the left has insisted for years, for them it really has all been about political advantage, noise and bluster and ugliness with no core of principle, no genuine strategic commitment.

The very same people who, only yesterday, insisted that Obama's resume was too dangerously thin to entrust him with the oversight of our national security, today are celebrating Palin's accession as a triumph for conservatism (evidently this is because she is hostile to both abortion and polar bears). Their hypocrisy is staggering--they truly do believe in nothing but their own entitlement to power by any means.

And I'm very much afraid I must conclude this is as true of McCain as it is of his ghastly cheerleaders, the Limbaughs and the Hannitys. Nothing else could explain the elevation of a woman so singularly unqualified in every aspect save gender.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/american-conser.html#more

Bravo! Bravo! QFT and well said. The choice of Palin is a glaring manifestation of the mind-boggling hypocrisy of the Right.

[TDmvp]

the Palin pick shocked me ... Totally don't get it ...
It's not like the females that was going to vote for Hillary will vote for Mccain because of Palin , she is pro life among other things ...

And Palin being that close to being Pres is Spooky ... but what do i know ...

[Spider]

the Palin pick shocked me ... Totally don't get it ...
It's not like the females that was going to vote for Hillary will vote for Mccain because of Palin , she is pro life among other things ...

And Palin being that close to being Pres is Spooky ... but what do i know ...

now this is only my opinion , but I think he picked her for 2 reasons ....
1. She is damn good looking ( yes i would do her ), lets face it staring at her ass is alot better then staring @ Romney's ass .....
2. She was picked cause of her hard core republican stance on issues , she will sure up the republican base , damn near 50% of the voting population , and hopefully her good looks will attract a few swing voters ....Sex sells

[NaptownChief]

Did you suffer head trauma ? the quote was before the PA outcome you dipsh1t



Who cares which small town people he was busy insulted over his sour grapes...my point is still the same.

I love you Democrats because if it weren't for you guys it would make being above average a lot tougher.

[Spider]

Who cares which small town people he was busy insulted over his sour grapes...my point is still the same.

I love you Democrats because if it weren't for you guys it would make being above average a lot tougher.

the only point you have is when you comb your hair right no one sees it . People get pissed off at anything whether they understand it or not ....... Hell should have seen the people I pissed off this morning using my Jake Break ......

[NaptownChief]

typical whackjobs masquerading as having a clue based on lame "talking points"


I just looked through your blog and I must say you are certainly an expert on the above comment.

[NaptownChief]

People get pissed off at anything whether they understand it or not .......


If you spend most of your time hanging out with Dems that is certainly true. Generally pissed off, bitter people that dwell on all the negative things in the world rather than appreciating all the great things we are fortunate to have as Americans.

[Spider]

If you spend most of your time hanging out with Dems that is certainly true. Generally pissed off, bitter people that dwell on all the negative things in the world rather than appreciating all the great things we are fortunate to have as Americans.

Stupidity is spreading today like wild fire ........you ****ed up your entire Spiel

[Spider]

Here stupid in just in case you have a short memory .... http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2053703&postcount=50 you ****ed up , be a man about it , admit you didnt know **** , you took it from a talking point ......Why all this bull**** and spin ?

[NaptownChief]

Here stupid in just in case you have a short memory .... http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2053703&postcount=50 you ****ed up , be a man about it , admit you didnt know **** , you took it from a talking point ......Why all this bull**** and spin ?



Who cares if I was wrong about which small town he was smearing out of sour grapes. It doesn't change my point. Unlike most of you liberals I didn't follow the Democratic primaries step for step and inch by inch because I didn't care which one of those poor candidates was ultimately served up.

You just keep carrying on with your ways as it is guys like you that do far more good for the Republican cause than most Republicans could. As you run around calling people names, acting like a complete low class bum and showing any young people with an open mind exactly how they don't want to be and showing them the type of people they don't want to associate with.

You of all people calling anyone stupid makes for high comedy. It is on par with Rosie O'Donnell calling somebody fat.

If you spent 1/10th of the time you spend on this board calling people names and spewing your mindless drivel on getting an education you would have a quality graduate degree, wouldn't bitter at the world and your life....and probably be voting for the other side of the aisle.

But that is ok, you just keep on keeping on and I'm going to head out and enjoy the beautiful weather on this long holiday weekend in the greatest country in the world that provides wonderful opportunity for anyone who cares to take advantage.

[Rohirrim]

Who cares if I was wrong about which small town he was smearing out of sour grapes. It doesn't change my point. Unlike most of you liberals I didn't follow the Democratic primaries step for step and inch by inch because I didn't care which one of those poor candidates was ultimately served up.

You just keep carrying on with your ways as it is guys like you that do far more good for the Republican cause than most Republicans could. As you run around calling people names, acting like a complete low class bum and showing any young people with an open mind exactly how they don't want to be and showing them the type of people they don't want to associate with.

You of all people calling anyone stupid makes for high comedy. It is on par with Rosie O'Donnell calling somebody fat.

If you spent 1/10th of the time you spend on this board calling people names and spewing your mindless drivel on getting an education you would have a quality graduate degree, wouldn't bitter at the world and your life....and probably be voting for the other side of the aisle.

But that is ok, you just keep on keeping on and I'm going to head out and enjoy the beautiful weather on this long holiday weekend in the greatest country in the world that provides wonderful opportunity for anyone who cares to take advantage.

Actually, that's not true. It's no contest; The more educated people are, the more likely they are to vote to the Left.

Maybe that's why the Right wants to destroy the Department of Education? Ha!

[Spider]

Who cares if I was wrong about which small town he was smearing out of sour grapes. It doesn't change my point. Unlike most of you liberals I didn't follow the Democratic primaries step for step and inch by inch because I didn't care which one of those poor candidates was ultimately served up.

You just keep carrying on with your ways as it is guys like you that do far more good for the Republican cause than most Republicans could. As you run around calling people names, acting like a complete low class bum and showing any young people with an open mind exactly how they don't want to be and showing them the type of people they don't want to associate with.

You of all people calling anyone stupid makes for high comedy. It is on par with Rosie O'Donnell calling somebody fat.

If you spent 1/10th of the time you spend on this board calling people names and spewing your mindless drivel on getting an education you would have a quality graduate degree, wouldn't bitter at the world and your life....and probably be voting for the other side of the aisle.

But that is ok, you just keep on keeping on and I'm going to head out and enjoy the beautiful weather on this long holiday weekend in the greatest country in the world that provides wonderful opportunity for anyone who cares to take advantage.

Hilarious! I have yet to watch the DNC convention or follow every move of primaries all it takes is a little paying attention .... Iknow asking a bed wetter and Chief fan ot pay attention is alot to ask ....... perhaps I was too harsh on you , I should give yo ucredit for even trying to participate ........ Hilarious! **** stick

[Bronco Bob]

Actually, that's not true. It's no contest; The more educated people are, the more likely they are to vote to the Left.

Maybe that's why the Right wants to destroy the Department of Education? Ha! ,

[W*GS]

,

That chart was bogus:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/stateiq.asp

[Spider]

,

As someone who lives in very red state , that chart is true

[Spider]

but on the + side we be smarter then the peeps in Mississippi