McCain leads in daily tracking Gallup poll. 46-44

[24champ]

Gallup Poll Daily tracking from Aug. 23-25, the first three-day period falling entirely after Obama's Saturday morning vice presidential announcement, shows 46% of national registered voters backing John McCain and 44% supporting Obama, not appreciably different from the previous week's standing for both candidates. This is the first time since Obama clinched the nomination in early June, though, that McCain has held any kind of advantage over Obama in Gallup Poll Daily tracking.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109834/Gallup-Daily-Bounce-Obama-Post-Biden-Tracking.aspx


Time for LABF and crew to push the...

http://attrition.org/eq/hosted/panic_button.jpg

[TailgateNut]

No one is pushing any buttons. One part of this equation many pollsters want to ignore is the fact that many of Obama's supporters are younger voters who live by the cell phone. Mnay do not own the typical "house phone" which is being canvassed to "conjure up" the results of these polls.

Pat yourself on the back for another useless poll posting!

[Spider]

How many registered voters in Denver right now ?
Not at home .......

[Play2win]

No one is pushing any buttons. One part of this equation many pollsters want to ignore is the fact that many of Obama's supporters are younger voters who live by the cell phone. Mnay do not own the typical "house phone" which is being canvassed to "conjure up" the results of these polls.

Pat yourself on the back for another useless poll posting!

I'm not that young, and I don't own a land line. I only own an iPhone. Its all I'll ever need. Cable for the internet...

[TailgateNut]

I'm not that young, and I don't own a land line. I only own an iPhone. Its all I'll ever need. Cable for the internet...


That's excactly what I'm referring to. Both of my sons live on the cell phones, one has a house phone but I don't think he ever uses it. They are both registered voters who intend to vote for Obama.

Gallup keeps calling those who still use the old rotary phones and expect to get representative data. Doesn't compute for me.

[Spider]

I havent had a home phone in years , I have 4 different ways to connect to the internet , my air time card being my favorite

[jhat01]

I have a home phone only for Directv and the Sunday ticket...BUt who answers those calls anyway? The old folks I guess. I never answer the phone if it's someone I don't know..too many telemarketers and pollsters

[Play2win]

That's excactly what I'm referring to. Both of my sons live on the cell phones, one has a house phone but I don't think he ever uses it. They are both registered voters who intend to vote for Obama.

Gallup keeps calling those who still use the old rotary phones and expect to get representative data. Doesn't compute for me.

On MSNBC, I heard on reporter state that without FACEBOOK, Obama is not there. These kind of polls are going to be obsolete. Tell me how many hits there websites have... Now that might give you something more close to the truth...

[Garcia Bronco]

On MSNBC, I heard on reporter state that without FACEBOOK, Obama is not there. These kind of polls are going to be obsolete. Tell me how many hits there websites have... Now that might give you something more close to the truth...

Think about it. This years graduating high school class was born in 1990. The internet, cell phone, and PC have always been apart of their lives. They are also lazy and won't stand in line to vote either.

[Spider]

Think about it. This years graduating high school class was 1990. The internet, cell phone, and PC have always been apart of their lives. They are also lazy and won't stand in line to vote either.

Hilarious! Yeah McSame should bank on that

[Rigs11]

repubs blowing each other over 2% points.isn't that within the margin of error?

[defenseman]

It'll be tight no matter who wins it in the end. Bottom line is lots of folks out there just don't know who they want. In any case, I just can't get behind polls these days. Log your vote, and see if your man wins, it's as simple as that...dman

[Bob]

It will be very close -- those that think otherwise have fallen for their own hype. Obama does have an advantage with younger voters right now, I think that Obama has been not as strong with female voters as Dems have in the past (that is what I have heard anyway.)

I think that McCain tries to get Liberboring to be his VP, but if he chooses a good woman VP, McCain may position himself better than going the liberal/center route.

[ElwayMD]

repubs blowing each other over 2% points.isn't that within the margin of error?

The reason it's a big deal is Barry used to have a double digit lead in the majority of polls about 3-4 months ago. So it shows that the race is tightening and the next 3 months are going to be very important for both candidates, since any "slip-up" could mean the election.

[tnedator]

The reason it's a big deal is Barry used to have a double digit lead in the majority of polls about 3-4 months ago. So it shows that the race is tightening and the next 3 months are going to be very important for both candidates, since any "slip-up" could mean the election.

Yea, but didn't you get the memo? Only old, rich right, wing conservatives answer their phone and respond to polls.

[Spider]

LOL you bedwettters are clinging to anything you can ......

[cutthemdown]

you all like to tout these same polls when it paints Bush's approval rating low. What gives? Are they somewhat accurate or not? You can't have it both ways like the liberals on this board like to have it.

They want tolerance, as long as you agree with them. They want to point to polls and approval rating only when it agrees with there message like global warming or Bush is evil.

[defenseman]

you all like to tout these same polls when it paints Bush's approval rating low. What gives? Are they somewhat accurate or not? You can't have it both ways like the liberals on this board like to have it.

They want tolerance, as long as you agree with them. They want to point to polls and approval rating only when it agrees with there message like global warming or Bush is evil.

I disregard most of them for the most part, a few occassionally are well put together..dman

[Spider]

you all like to tout these same polls when it paints Bush's approval rating low. What gives? Are they somewhat accurate or not? You can't have it both ways like the liberals on this board like to have it.

They want tolerance, as long as you agree with them. They want to point to polls and approval rating only when it agrees with there message like global warming or Bush is evil.

Name 1 poll I have posted , or a few others ....... you bedwetters are all alike , enjoying Child pornography , having a wide stance , in the bathroom , sleping with hookers getting caught , then telling me that homo marriage will ruin mine ........ Get the message ?

[TheDave]

you all like to tout these same polls when it paints Bush's approval rating low. What gives? Are they somewhat accurate or not? You can't have it both ways like the liberals on this board like to have it.

They want tolerance, as long as you agree with them. They want to point to polls and approval rating only when it agrees with there message like global warming or Bush is evil.

And the Republicans are the same way... The day people stop thinking of themselves as democrats or republicans we will all be a lot better off.

[24champ]

Hi this is gallup poll, we would like to know who you are voting for?


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3134/2634575961_b5b259513e.jpg



Yeah.... I am voting for Obama. [hangs up]

[cutthemdown]

And the Republicans are the same way... The day people stop thinking of themselves as democrats or republicans we will all be a lot better off.

exactly I consider myself an American period.

[Spider]

exactly I consider myself an American period.
put mentally disabled in front of that ..........

[Spider]

exactly I consider myself amentally disabled American period.

there fixed it , now it is true

[TailgateNut]

you all like to tout these same polls when it paints Bush's approval rating low. .


You could call an outhouse on a phone made with two soup cans and a string and Bushs' approval rating would be low, unless you reach one of his sheep.

[cutthemdown]

there fixed it , now it is true

wow thanks Spider you're the best!!!!! Hopefully Obama will raise your taxes so us mentally disabled folk can stay home and watch good times re-runs on TVLAND!!!

I mean what's left for us mentally disabled? I mean besides trucking?Hilarious!

[Spider]

wow thanks Spider you're the best!!!!! Hopefully Obama will raise your taxes so us mentally disabled folk can stay home and watch good times re-runs on TVLAND!!!

I mean what's left for us mentally disabled? I mean besides trucking?Hilarious!

well at least you wont be playing lousy music in dive for beer money ......

[tnedator]

You could call an outhouse on a phone made with two soup cans and a string and Bushs' approval rating would be low, unless you reach one of his sheep.

Yea, I guess the sheep would be answering the phone and giving the Democratically controlled congress the worst approval ratings ever recorded.

[Drek]

you all like to tout these same polls when it paints Bush's approval rating low. What gives? Are they somewhat accurate or not? You can't have it both ways like the liberals on this board like to have it.

They want tolerance, as long as you agree with them. They want to point to polls and approval rating only when it agrees with there message like global warming or Bush is evil.

Approval rating polls have greater varacity because they aren't trying to show "likely voters" and are typically ran over longer sampling times.

Even still there can be pretty big swing, but when you see approval ratings in the teens and twenties (as pretty much our entire political establishment is at right now, not just Bush but Cheney and both other houses) you have a pretty strong indicator.

I don't think McCain is back by a country mile but there are more than a few problems with this poll.

1. it was taken over a weekend. Look at Gallup's own poll history, McCain always gets a bump in the three day weekenders. Its because young people are out doing **** while older people aren't, proven polling fact.

2. the numbers are often slanted to reflect a 20 year old notion of "likely voters", which discounts the fact that the youth and minority votes turned out in record numbers during the '06 elections that won the Dems the senate and the house, and that they had even higher record turnouts in the primaries. The youth and minority votes are highly motivated, I'd dare say more so than the evangelical right.

3. these polls, if you dig into the data, show Obama with only about 80% of democrats behind him. Kerry had 89%. The gap is disenfranchised Hillary voters, but anyone who really thinks more than a few hundred of them are going to vote for a guy who just a few weeks ago said he'd overturn Roe v. Wade is fooling themselves. They'll vote because they're politically active people and they'll by and large vote for Obama. That alone is equal to a 4% swing in the national numbers.

4. Most importantly, our elections aren't actually two party, no matter how much Gallup and the mainstream media wishes it was. Barr, Nader, and Cynthia McKinnie will be on the ticket come November. In the most recent 5 candidate polls Obama had 44%, McCain had 39%, Barr had 4%, and McKinnie and Nader each had 1%.

It'll be an interesting election, a nice study in the perception the media and pollsters are selling to keep us all tuning in versus the reality they're working diligently to keep out of the public eye.

[Play2win]

I heard the Republican Nation Convention in 2012 was going to be held in Dubai...

[snowspot66]

Think about it. This years graduating high school class was born in 1990. The internet, cell phone, and PC have always been apart of their lives. They are also lazy and won't stand in line to vote either.

I'm 24, born in 1984. I don't know hardly anybody around my age not at least a little bit interested and almost all seem to be planning to vote. Our highschool and early adult years were the last year or so of Clinton and then 8 years of Bush. We're graduating college now and a lot of people my age are extremely pissed off and we're blaming Bush and those that came before us.

There will be a lot of young new voters in this election and a large number of them won't be voting for McCain.

[BroncoInferno]

This is the same electorate who voted for Bush twice. A McCain victory would depress but not surprise me.

[Play2win]

This is the same electorate who voted for Bush twice. A McCain victory would depress but not surprise me.

This is why I am kinda glad Hillary isn't either President or VP nomination, it would excite a depressed Repub base...


Don't worry though, there is a lot of stuff going on in the Blog/Facebook/TextMessaging arena... While McSame barely knows what an email is...

[Garcia Bronco]

The Amusing thing about this election is Congress has a 9 percent approval rating and both the jokers we get to pick from are from that group.

[TailgateNut]

Yea, I guess the sheep would be answering the phone and giving the Democratically controlled congress the worst approval ratings ever recorded.


Yes they would. Read what you write.

The Congress has had their hands tied by the Dumb**** President currently sitting in the Oval office.

Your ****ing heads will spin when the Democrats finally control the House, the Senate and the WH.

It will take a while, but we'll pick up the TRASH left behind by eight years of BushCo ****ting all over our wonderful country.
Time to put a boot in the ass of the profiteering dictatorship and time to return to being a great country which is respected across the globe.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I heard the Republican Nation Convention in 2012 was going to be held in Dubai...

ROFL! ^5

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Aug. 27

Obama 273 McCain 252 Ties 13

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

[frerottenextelway]

For those biting their nails for today's release (which was surveyed before Clinton spoke yesterday), Obama is back up by 1 - including what they say was a good single day survey on Tuesday (they didn't give a single day total though). Looks like the "bounce" will be coming.

[24champ]

Yea, I guess the sheep would be answering the phone and giving the Democratically controlled congress the worst approval ratings ever recorded.

^5

I wonder if the Dems will tout how well and awesome they have done in Congress since 2006?


http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-12/34355547.jpg


:spit:

[Drek]

^5

I wonder if the Dems will tout how well and awesome they have done in Congress since 2006?


http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-12/34355547.jpg


:spit:

You mean the Congress that has been hamstrung by Bush's every ready veto pen?

Funny that most '08 projections have the Dems taking even more seats in congress.

Are you going to be able to live under a Democratic POTUS, Senate, and House?

[TailgateNut]

You mean the Congress that has been hamstrung by Bush's every ready veto pen?

Funny that most '08 projections have the Dems taking even more seats in congress.

Are you going to be able to live under a Democratic POTUS, Senate, and House?


Trying to reason with just another halfwit who will deny supporting Bush while holding his balls for him and making every excuse possible and deflecting from the real problem.

...and No one admits to voting for him, so maybe they did in FACT steal the election.

[24champ]

You mean the Congress that has been hamstrung by Bush's every ready veto pen?


Is that the official excuse to their record breaking nine percent approval rating in Congress?:giggle:

[BroncoInferno]

Is that the official excuse to their record breaking nine percent approval rating in Congress?:giggle:

Well, inspite of that, early projections have the Democrats picking up an additional 15-20 seats in the House and 5-7 in the Senate. So, it doesn't appear you will be laughing in November.

[TailgateNut]

Well, inspite of that, early projections have the Democrats picking up an additional 15-20 seats in the House and 5-7 in the Senate. So, it doesn't appear you will be laughing in November.

One of my long time friends (a republican to the core) is for the first time in his life voting democrat. He is actually attending Obama's speach at Mile High on thursday. When I asked him why (before I knew he planned to vote for him) he said: I wouldn't miss it, it will be an Historical moment for our country.

I never thought he would ever change his evil ways.ROFL!

[24champ]

Well, inspite of that, early projections have the Democrats picking up an additional 15-20 seats in the House and 5-7 in the Senate. So, it doesn't appear you will be laughing in November.

A lot can happen between now and November. At the rate the Democrats are shooting themselves in the foot...anything is possible.

[Drek]

A lot can happen between now and November. At the rate the Democrats are shooting themselves in the foot...anything is possible.

Sure.

I for one enjoy watching Obama preside over a filibuster proof Congress and leading this nation in the right direction for a change.

[Rohirrim]

I will never forgive this Dem Congress and Pelosi for not impeaching Bush. This has been the story of Bush's entire life: Walk away from your crimes and leave the mess for others. The idea that Bush and Cheney can do so much damage to this country and then, not only walk away from it, but profit from it, makes me sick.

[Garcia Bronco]

I will never forgive this Dem Congress and Pelosi for not impeaching Bush. This has been the story of Bush's entire life: Walk away from your crimes and leave the mess for others. The idea that Bush and Cheney can do so much damage to this country and then, not only walk away from it, but profit from it, makes me sick.

If they could have and won they would have.

[24champ]

Sure.


Well...Obama DID have a double digit lead over McCain not too long ago.

In fact if you go back, you will see that I predicted that this election would be a landslide for Dems, particularly calling McCain was going to get Bob Dole'd.

[Rigs11]

wow thanks Spider you're the best!!!!! Hopefully Obama will raise your taxes so us mentally disabled folk can stay home and watch good times re-runs on TVLAND!!!

I mean what's left for us mentally disabled? I mean besides trucking?Hilarious!
If you make less than 250,000 a year Obama will lower your taxes.3 times as much as Mccain. This tax argument wont work this time around, pay attention.

[Rigs11]

Well...Obama DID have a double digit lead over McCain not too long ago.

In fact if you go back, you will see that I predicted that this election would be a landslide for Dems, particularly calling McCain was going to get Bob Dole'd.

It still will be. you yahoos are quick to dismiss polls when they are unfavorable to bush and yet now they are credible because they favor mcsame by 2 points? Brilliant!

[24champ]

It still will be. you yahoos are quick to dismiss polls when they are unfavorable to bush and yet now they are credible because they favor mcsame by 2 points? Brilliant!

No it won't still be. The point of the thread was to show how far the Messiah, Obama, has fallen. Not so much that McCain is up by 2 points. Remember that Obama was up by double digits not too long ago...

[Garcia Bronco]

These polss on a single day mean nothing. These polls over 3 months mean something

[RaiderH8r]

By every metric Obama should be walking in the polls, particularly now, by at least a 7 point margin. Bush is at an all time low, Congress' approval is at an all time low, Dems are desperately trying to link Bush and McCain, and Obama can't seem to break through. He may in the future, he may not. The fact that he hasn't seen at least some measurable improvement through his convention should concern Democrats. If it doesn't then they're either too dumb to recognize the problem or too blinded by their partisan hackery to care.

It's like a sport, Obama should be winning in a blowout and yet the underdog keeps hanging around, hanging around, and all an underdog needs is for it to be close in the final minute to pull an upset.

[Garcia Bronco]

By every metric Obama should be walking in the polls, particularly now, by at least a 7 point margin. Bush is at an all time low, Congress' approval is at an all time low, Dems are desperately trying to link Bush and McCain, and Obama can't seem to break through. He may in the future, he may not. The fact that he hasn't seen at least some measurable improvement through his convention should concern Democrats. If it doesn't then they're either too dumb to recognize the problem or too blinded by their partisan hackery to care.

It's like a sport, Obama should be winning in a blowout and yet the underdog keeps hanging around, hanging around, and all an underdog needs is for it to be close in the final minute to pull an upset.

Write it down, if McCain pulls this off in a close election he'll be accused of robbing the election.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

By every metric Obama should be walking in the polls, particularly now, by at least a 7 point margin. Bush is at an all time low, Congress' approval is at an all time low, Dems are desperately trying to link Bush and McCain, and Obama can't seem to break through. He may in the future, he may not. The fact that he hasn't seen at least some measurable improvement through his convention should concern Democrats. If it doesn't then they're either too dumb to recognize the problem or too blinded by their partisan hackery to care.

It's like a sport, Obama should be winning in a blowout and yet the underdog keeps hanging around, hanging around, and all an underdog needs is for it to be close in the final minute to pull an upset.

I'm going to stop paying attention to polls because, 1, there are so many of them, and 2, they all have been changing like the wind. Plus, theres still so much game to play and if the DNC is any judge, it looks like the dems will go on the offensive against a candidate who really represents none of the ideals of most americans. How anyone who has been paying attention would vote for this guy is beyond me.

[ak1971]

Write it down, if McCain pulls this off in a close election he'll be accused of robbing the election.

exactly

[peacepipe]

By every metric Obama should be walking in the polls, particularly now, by at least a 7 point margin. Bush is at an all time low, Congress' approval is at an all time low, Dems are desperately trying to link Bush and McCain, and Obama can't seem to break through. He may in the future, he may not. The fact that he hasn't seen at least some measurable improvement through his convention should concern Democrats. If it doesn't then they're either too dumb to recognize the problem or too blinded by their partisan hackery to care.

It's like a sport, Obama should be winning in a blowout and yet the underdog keeps hanging around, hanging around, and all an underdog needs is for it to be close in the final minute to pull an upset.National polls don't mean a thing,State polls are where it's at. The one thing everybody is not looking at is voter registration. If there is a large turn out to vote than Obama wins huge.

[defenseman]

Write it down, if McCain pulls this off in a close election he'll be accused of robbing the election.

I would expect nothing less from the democratic party....part of the playbook...immediately demonize the other side....dman

[defenseman]

National polls don't mean a thing,State polls are where it's at. The one thing everybody is not looking at is voter registration. If there is a large turn out to vote than Obama wins huge.

The states are up and down right now, they will continue to be along with national polls, it's all garbage till about 30 days out...dman

[defenseman]

I'm going to stop paying attention to polls because, 1, there are so many of them, and 2, they all have been changing like the wind. Plus, theres still so much game to play and if the DNC is any judge, it looks like the dems will go on the offensive against a candidate who really represents none of the ideals of most americans. How anyone who has been paying attention would vote for this guy is beyond me.

Good call on your part ..dman

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

How anyone who has been paying attention would vote for this guy is beyond me.

Yep.

Of course, we said the same thing about Dim Son.

[BroncoInferno]

I would expect nothing less from the democratic party....part of the playbook...immediately demonize the other side....dman

Well, it's a fact that the 2000 election was stolen. The evidence is conclusive on that point. 2004 there was proven shady dealings in Ohio, although it isn't conclusive that Kerry would have won the state absent said shady dealings. McCain will be accused of stealing the election if similar conclusive evidence is presented that he stole it...as was the case with Bush.

[MrLaw2u]

Well, it's a fact that the 2000 election was stolen. The evidence is conclusive on that point. 2004 there was proven shady dealings in Ohio, although it isn't conclusive that Kerry would have won the state absent said shady dealings. McCain will be accused of stealing the election if similar conclusive evidence is presented that he stole it...as was the case with Bush.

If that's all you need to see conclusive proof you would be great on a jury. Talk about going home fast and getting the job done!!!

[BroncoInferno]

If that's all you need to see conclusive proof you would be great on a jury. Talk about going home fast and getting the job done!!!

Gore won Florida on the recount. The Supreme Court usurped Florida law by not allowing the recount to be official. Those are facts, sir.

[RaiderH8r]

Gore won Florida on the recount. The Supreme Court usurped Florida law by not allowing the recount to be official. Those are facts, sir.

Gore lost his home state of Tennessee. If Gore had won his home state of Tennessee, Florida becomes moot.

The Supreme Court validated existing Florida law. It was Gore's campaign who was attempting to usurp Florida law and run rough shod over their legislatively mandated deadline for certification.

Gore won "selected" recounts in Democratic precincts. His campaign's selective approach to their "recount" was a farse from day one.

AlGore's on stage kiss with Tipper is the most offensive thing I've ever seen on TV. AlGore's kisses make baby Jesus cry.

AlGore used his position in the Senate to lend credibility to Tipper's day hobby of the PMRC and was summarily owned by Dee Snider in the hearings. Tipper can suck my pucker.

Those are the facts sir.

[Kaylore]

No one is pushing any buttons. One part of this equation many pollsters want to ignore is the fact that many of Obama's supporters are younger voters who live by the cell phone. Mnay do not own the typical "house phone" which is being canvassed to "conjure up" the results of these polls.

Pat yourself on the back for another useless poll posting!

And they are the least likely voting bracket to vote.

[TailgateNut]

And they are the least likely voting bracket to vote.


Historically speaking, yes, but you should "thank" your hero Bush for rewriting history.

[NaptownChief]

Historically speaking, yes, but you should "thank" your hero Bush for rewriting history.



Why did he get impeached like Bill?

[TailgateNut]

Why did he get impeached like Bill?

I don't hear any fat ladies singing!

You'ld do better just sitting in the corner adjusting your "cap".

[frerottenextelway]

And they are the least likely voting bracket to vote.

Weren't during the Democratic Primary.

[TailgateNut]

Weren't during the Democratic Primary.


Don't expect "them" to pay attention. They obviously haven't for 8 years, why should they start now. There were more "youngsters" at our caucus than I've ever seen.

[Bronco Bob]

Speaking of the Gallup poll:

8-29-2008

Obama 49%

McCain 41%

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109933/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Stretches-Lead-Points.aspx

[peacepipe]

Speaking of the Gallup poll:

8-29-2008

Obama 49%

McCain 41%

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109933/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Stretches-Lead-Points.aspx
The thing about that poll is that it was taken before Obama made his speech.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Gore won Florida on the recount. The Supreme Court usurped Florida law by not allowing the recount to be official. Those are facts, sir.

QFT (inconvenient as they may be for dittoheads.)