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MO<1>
08-23-2008, 12:40 PM
Which canidate wants to:

1. Ensure 10 percent of our electricity comes from renewable resources by 2012?

2. Invest in the national electricity grid to meet the demands of the 21st centtury?

3. Wants to develop our natural resources lowering consumer costs and assuring adequate and conistent energy supplies.

defenseman
08-23-2008, 04:26 PM
NUCLEAR....NUCLEAR......NUCLEAR....dman

Spider
08-23-2008, 05:15 PM
Which canidate wants to:

1. Ensure 10 percent of our electricity comes from renewable resources by 2012?

2. Invest in the national electricity grid to meet the demands of the 21st centtury?

3. Wants to develop our natural resources lowering consumer costs and assuring adequate and conistent energy supplies.

LOL McCain just recently jumped n board with that the same time Lindsay Grahm did .....
and to ensure 10% do you even know how much 10% would be ?
Invest into a national Grid ? does this also include transmission lines ? if so McCain is a tad bit late :rofl:
#3 this one is no stretch , in fct it should have been done in 2001 , but if the Bedwetters ( aka republicans) done that , then hey wouldnt have needed the enron commission to create the Enron loophole cause high fuel prices ....So Basically McSame isnt promising anything but to carry on Bush's policies ...... But nice try

Drek
08-23-2008, 06:35 PM
Which canidate wants to:

1. Ensure 10 percent of our electricity comes from renewable resources by 2012?

2. Invest in the national electricity grid to meet the demands of the 21st centtury?

3. Wants to develop our natural resources lowering consumer costs and assuring adequate and conistent energy supplies.

Go read the energy policies, McCain has started paying lip service to renewables and overhauling our energy grid, but he has absolutely ZERO dollars for the later in his economic and energy plans and a single $300M bounty with any real renewable applications (and with no attached assistance to actually get said bounty prize to the market).

Meanwhile Obama's energy and economic plans are directly tied in that they collaborate to sponsor free market growth along with governmental growth of renewables and energy efficiency. At the same time he was basically the first of any politician in the recent primaries to propose a nation wide energy grid overhaul so that we 1. stop wasting tons of electricity in transit and 2. we can all sell any unused renewable energy, such as solar or wind, back into the grid, free market style.

Obama, the patron saint of the free market, is attempting to deliver a true energy plan for the future. McCain has his 20th century "nuclear and drill, drill drill, drill!" plan but he isn't adverse to paying lip service to some legitimately intelligent ideas his opponent has if its politically beneficial. Not like he's going to keep those campaign promises after all.

MO<1>
08-23-2008, 07:34 PM
Go read the energy policies, McCain has started paying lip service to renewables and overhauling our energy grid, but he has absolutely ZERO dollars for the later in his economic and energy plans and a single $300M bounty with any real renewable applications (and with no attached assistance to actually get said bounty prize to the market).

Meanwhile Obama's energy and economic plans are directly tied in that they collaborate to sponsor free market growth along with governmental growth of renewables and energy efficiency. At the same time he was basically the first of any politician in the recent primaries to propose a nation wide energy grid overhaul so that we 1. stop wasting tons of electricity in transit and 2. we can all sell any unused renewable energy, such as solar or wind, back into the grid, free market style.

Obama, the patron saint of the free market, is attempting to deliver a true energy plan for the future. McCain has his 20th century "nuclear and drill, drill drill, drill!" plan but he isn't adverse to paying lip service to some legitimately intelligent ideas his opponent has if its politically beneficial. Not like he's going to keep those campaign promises after all.

1 is Obama, 2 is McCain, 3 is Bar

Spider
08-23-2008, 07:42 PM
1 is Obama, 2 is McCain, 3 is Bar

Barr is still a bedwetter he will fall in step with the party

MO<1>
08-23-2008, 07:48 PM
Barr is still a bedwetter he will fall in step with the party

I don't disagree, but those thinking this was McCain's energy policy haven't even read Obama's. These same people are very quick to insult others without any basis. Why?

Spider
08-23-2008, 07:52 PM
I don't disagree, but those thinking this was McCain's energy policy haven't even read Obama's. These same people are very quick to insult others without any basis. Why?

Cause it really doesnt matter , as I pointed out , those 3 things should have already been done , but now they are just political footballs , and it really doesnt matter the message or the issues , most are voting for the man they believe in .......... as for getting called an Idiot , thats all on you , go back reread your post , you cant blame other for name calling when you supply the ammo

Spider
08-23-2008, 07:53 PM
Let me put it like this , both parties use issues to win their parties nomination , after that , it is a selling of the candidate thing ........

Bronco Bob
08-23-2008, 09:10 PM
NUCLEAR....NUCLEAR......NUCLEAR....dman

Technically nuclear isn't a renewable resource. Once you split
the uranium atom, it's gone, and you aren't getting anymore
that don't already exist.

MO<1>
08-23-2008, 09:14 PM
Technically nuclear isn't a renewable resource. Once you split
the uranium atom, it's gone, and you aren't getting anymore
that don't already exist.

Nuclear Science! All 3 canidates support nukes!

Bronco Bob
08-23-2008, 09:15 PM
Nuclear Science! All 3 canidates support nukes!

Doesn't matter. It's still not a renewable resource.

Drek
08-24-2008, 07:39 AM
1 is Obama, 2 is McCain, 3 is Bar

No, you posted vague generalities. Obama and McCain both subscribe to all three, it just so happens that Obama has included him in his actual written energy and economic plans while McCain's plan outlines pretty much nothing but "find more oil, dig more coal, and split more atoms!"

Barr on the other hand is well, a ****ty libertarian. He espouses some of their views but shrinks from the real party lines when it comes to our tax dollars. Ron Paul is more a libertarian than him. He's espousing more oil, coal, and natural gas here but his economic plan is in general just a mess. It assumes we actually have enough of these resources to power our nation, when in fact we REALLY don't. Its the "land of plenty" myth, that somehow America has all we'll ever need so lets stick our heads in the sand when it looks abundantly clear we're running low on supplies.

defenseman
08-24-2008, 08:08 AM
Technically nuclear isn't a renewable resource. Once you split
the uranium atom, it's gone, and you aren't getting anymore
that don't already exist.

Bronco Bob, You don't need to explain this to me, trust me, I know...dman