There's nothing quite like Patriots week at The Mane!

[PatsWin2002]

There's nothing quite like Patriots week at The Mane!
The tension...the anticipation....the rivalry.......Ha!

OK, maybe not.

Funny how I haven't posted much this week yet our teams will collide on Monday night. I did, however, successfully get SoCal to display an avatar. :hooray:

There's a lot of articles in the Boston Globe and the Boston Herald about this game. Obviously, the Pats have great respect for the Broncos as well as our coaches for each other.

Just an idea of what the sentiment is here.......

Broncos a pain in neck despite all the injuries

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2003/10/30/broncos_a_pain_in_neck_despite_all_the_injuries/


You see a defense starting rookie Jashon Sykes at strongside linebacker and cornerbacks named Lenny Walls and Kelly Herndon, and you figure Brady should have no problem lighting up the Colorado sky, right?

Yeah, right.

"They plug linebackers in there and they still lead the league in defense," Belichick said. "They don't have any problem with that. [Their] two corners, I'm sure a lot of people couldn't even name who they are. They're playing good on pass defense. They're leading the league on third down. So don't tell me about their corners. They're just the best in the league, that's all."

Belichick has expressed his respect for Broncos coach Mike Shanahan before, but yesterday spoke as if his admiration had grown, having observed Shanahan maintain consistency amid turnover.

"The key to it is Mike Shanahan," Belichick said. "When you talk about offense in the NFL, nobody has done more than he has on a consistent basis year after year. It doesn't matter who the back is, it doesn't matter who the line is, it doesn't matter who the quarterback is, they move the ball and they score points. They produce in the red area, they're good on third down, and he's done a great job year after year after year with whoever the players are . . . They've had to shuffle the deck before."

Said safety Rodney Harrison, who made annual trips to Denver as a member of AFC West rival San Diego and nearly became a Bronco last offseason because of Shanahan, "You can't go against Mike Shanahan's system thinking that because they don't have their starting quarterback or their first-string quarterback that he's off. He's going to put Kanell in position to where he has easier reads, he can just play football, and he's comfortable. We're not going in there underestimating this group at all. This is one of the most talented groups we've gone against.

"This is our sternest test to date."

[Taco John]

Originally posted by PatsWin2002
Obviously, the Pats have great respect for the Broncos as well as our coaches for each other.






Whatevah... We thing you guys are a bunch of lamers! Bring the smack, Pats boy... ;D

[PatsWin2002]

Originally posted by Taco John





Whatevah... We thing you guys are a bunch of lamers! Bring the smack, Pats boy... ;D

Hey! This isn't Chiefsplanet! You're nice here...remember?

[Spider]

The Pats have been a Class act as far back as I can Remember , and I remember Steve Grogan ......................

[Taco John]

Originally posted by PatsWin2002


Hey! This isn't Chiefsplanet! You're nice here...remember?


hehehe...

!Booya!

[illbroncsfn]

I have a lot of admiration for the Patriots.

They have had a ton of injuries, but I don't hear any excuses.....

I have a feeling we could see these teams again later in the year.

[Pezman]

Well for what its worth, I rooted for the Pats in their Superbowl and actually won some $$$ on them so, they can't be too bad.

Although, PatsWin, if ever there was a week I need them to lay down and take a beating at the hands of a team, this is it... You can afford to lose this game right? ;)

[Old Dude]

It's true. I can't really think of anything that I hate about the Pats.

I kind of hated those old helmets, but the new ones are sharp.

We don't have much of a rivalry with Boston in any area. The Nugs & Celtics are in different conferences. The Rockies & Red Sox are in different leagues. We see the Bruins maybe once a year. The colleges around here play UMass or Boston College once in a blue moon.

Then, to top it off Patswin is a class act. Which also makes it hard to get too riled up.

Ifthe Pats make it to the Super Bowl, I'll be rooting for them big time.

Can't say the same about the Chiefs, Raiders or Fins, though.

[Hogan11]

Originally posted by Old Dude
It's true. I can't really think of anything that I hate about the Pats.

I kind of hated those old helmets, but the new ones are sharp.

We don't have much of a rivalry with Boston in any area. The Nugs & Celtics are in different conferences. The Rockies & Red Sox are in different leagues. We see the Bruins maybe once a year. The colleges around here play UMass or Boston College once in a blue moon.

Then, to top it off Patswin is a class act. Which also makes it hard to get too riled up.

Ifthe Pats make it to the Super Bowl, I'll be rooting for them big time.

Can't say the same about the Chiefs, Raiders or Fins, though.

Can't fault much with this except I liked the Old Pats uni much better than the Elvis thing...whatever, I'm very much the traditionalist when it comes to uni's anyway...anyone who's gotten a blast of my disdain for the arena/cyborg look could tell you that firsthand....The Pats are odd in this uni thing because the team store at the Stadium carries just as much of the old look as they do the new (which I find admirable).

As I said, I've been to Gillette..it's a very nice Stade. I love the town of Foxboro and have some really close friends that live there, nicer people you'll never find...seeing team members around town is a usual thing, etc.

Personally, the Pats are just kinda there to me...I'm indifferent to them as a whole...I'll root for them if they're the AFC reps in the Bowl or if what they're doing is helping Denver at all...otherwise, I really don't give them that much thought.

I do believe Patswin is the example that posters supporting other teams should follow when here at the Mane....respectful, friendly, a class act like the Old one says.....too bad some of those banned bums couldn't learn from him how to conduct themselves here or otherwise they'd not only still be here but be held in high regard as well.

[Hotrod]

Im not so sure those press releases are anything more than smoke up the tail pipe. Dont get the other team mad. "oh they are the greatest ever. We respect DK alot cant believe they found him before we did. ;)

[SoCalBronco]

thanks again for helping me put cameron on my avatar PatsWin. I strongly agree with the general sentiment that the Patriots are one of the few teams we dont really have a visceral negative reaction as with the Fade, Chefs, Ratbirds, Faguars, Dol****s etc. And PatsWin certainly is one of the best members we have here at the Mane.

[PatsWin2002]

Originally posted by Pezman
Although, PatsWin, if ever there was a week I need them to lay down and take a beating at the hands of a team, this is it... You can afford to lose this game right? ;)

We all know the Broncos need this game more than the Pats do, but that's NO excuse for the Pats to lay down or let up at all. In fact, they should be relishing the chance to get even for last year's loss in Foxboro.


Originally posted by Old Dude
It's true. I can't really think of anything that I hate about the Pats.

I kind of hated those old helmets, but the new ones are sharp.

We don't have much of a rivalry with Boston in any area. The Nugs & Celtics are in different conferences. The Rockies & Red Sox are in different leagues. We see the Bruins maybe once a year. The colleges around here play UMass or Boston College once in a blue moon.

Then, to top it off Patswin is a class act. Which also makes it hard to get too riled up.

Ifthe Pats make it to the Super Bowl, I'll be rooting for them big time.

Can't say the same about the Chiefs, Raiders or Fins, though.

Thanks for the props. Funny that an "Old Dude" would like the new Flying Elvis look better than the old Pat Patriot logo....Hmmmm....


Originally posted by RHogan


Can't fault much with this except I liked the Old Pats uni much better than the Elvis thing...whatever, I'm very much the traditionalist when it comes to uni's anyway...anyone who's gotten a blast of my disdain for the arena/cyborg look could tell you that firsthand....The Pats are odd in this uni thing because the team store at the Stadium carries just as much of the old look as they do the new (which I find admirable).

As I said, I've been to Gillette..it's a very nice Stade. I love the town of Foxboro and have some really close friends that live there, nicer people you'll never find...seeing team members around town is a usual thing, etc.

Personally, the Pats are just kinda there to me...I'm indifferent to them as a whole...I'll root for them if they're the AFC reps in the Bowl or if what they're doing is helping Denver at all...otherwise, I really don't give them that much thought.

I do believe Patswin is the example that posters supporting other teams should follow when here at the Mane....respectful, friendly, a class act like the Old one says.....too bad some of those banned bums couldn't learn from him how to conduct themselves here or otherwise they'd not only still be here but be held in high regard as well.

Again, thanks for the kind words. I also noticed that the store at the stadium carries some items with the old Pat Patriot logo. I was kinda bummed when they switched to the new one.......but not as bummed as a friend of mine that has a huge Pat Patriot tattoo on his arm!

[watermock]

It's kinda hard to hate the Pats.

Many better candidates out there. The fact that they have been our Biatch for the past decade doesn't hurt either.

And yes, Walls and Herndon are playing extremely well.

[watermock]

PatsWin is one of those guys everyone likes.

I hate those types. Always with the positive vibes.

It's creepy.

[Popps]

Patswin is a perfect example of how opposing fans can help, not hurt a forum.

That said, I hope we bust up the Patsies on Mon. The biggest upside I see, is that they're not a dominant rushing team, which means Brady is going to have to beat us by himself ... and I don't think that's going to happen.
On the downside, I think the Pats are near the top of the league in rushing defense. So... will we be able to get Portis going this week? Who knows.
I'd sure like to see Clinton step up in a tough game like this. I know teams are stacking the line, but he's supposed to be a star. We stacked for Jamal Lewis last week and he ran all over us. Hopefully, CP will get enough carries to bust out this week.

[Old Dude]

Originally posted by PatsWin2002
...

Thanks for the props. Funny that an "Old Dude" would like the new Flying Elvis look better than the old Pat Patriot logo....Hmmmm....
...


Well, my reasoning may be odd, but here it is.

The colors were wrong. I mean, you guys were fighting the "redcoats", right? So shouldn't the uniform have been blue?

I think you've got it right, now, though I'm not sure how much silver they were sporting in those days.

The guy on the helmet just looked a little silly. Plus, he was hiking the ball. That's not exactly the most glamorous pose in sports.

And the white helmet was a little redundant in that particular division. Back then, all four teams had white helmets. It's good to see a little variety.

As far as good/bad stuff in general goes, I like a mix of the old & the new.

Good "classic" uniforms: The Blue & White LA Rams. The Gold ruined it. The Cards, (without the stupid red pants.) The Giants, The Cowboys, The Falcons (before they started wearing the stupid gray pants), The Redskins (with the Spearhead - not the nickle Indian), da' Bears, the Chiefs (aso without the stupid red pants), the Raiders, the Saints, and the Powder Blue Chargers.

Good "new" uniforms: The Pats, The Seahawks, the Broncos, The Bucs, the Eagles. Also the Vikes, who made modest but tasteful changes.

Beyond hope: The Packers, the Jets & the Bengals.

Looking Stupid: the Browns in orange pants, the current Bills unis, the Jags and the Dolphins in any version.

indifferent: Pittsburgh, the Ratbirds, the Colts, the Panthers, 49ers, Lions & anyone I forgot.

[Rock Chalk]

F*CK THE PATRIOTS!

[PatsWin2002]

So do you think Denver being favored by 2 points makes sense? I do.

Is anyone going to the game?

[Rich Karlis]

I think all of New England is questioning what the heck is goig on with the Sox......Why not totally destroy the confidence of Manny and put him on waivers, when you know that no other team can pay him. He'll come down with the "flu" about 16 times for Boston next year.

[521 1N5]

someone should post a link to this thread onto chiefsplanet, and show them what actual football discussion looks like.

class act Patswin...class act.

[orange 4 life]

Originally posted by Old Dude



Beyond hope: The Packers, the Jets & the Bengals.

Looking Stupid: the Browns in orange pants, the current Bills unis, the Jags and the Dolphins in any version.

indifferent: Pittsburgh, the Ratbirds, the Colts, the Panthers, 49ers, Lions & anyone I forgot.

i can see missing some, but dont forget the raiders who fit into the "looking stupid" AND "beyond hope" category.

plus, they start their own "look satanic and remind you of gang warfare and everything wrong in the world" category.

jake

[Hulamau]

PAts are a gutsy team and Belichick is a hellava coach . But if Shanny is going to show what he can do, this is the game. We've got an extra day and a half, everybody's back is against the wall, the Pats dont need this one quite as much as we do and have been winning lately on grit and a little luck alone, and its at home on MNF.

Kanell has got to have one or two more decent football games left in him and after the shellacking he got last week, maybe he can come out and blow out the cobwebs and surpirse everyone. Afterall Plummer looked lousy in game 1 and turned it around in game 2.

If the game plan doesn't have Kanell alternating 60 yrd floaters to Lelie with Portis up the middle, I think we can pull it off.

Sykes and Spragan are going to have to have it together and be fired up.

We need at LEAST 2 turnovers that we can turn into some kind of points. And we can't have more than 2 turnovers ourselves if we expect to have a ghost of a chance.

Get the ball to Portis, Lelie and Sharpe regularly in the 7 to 20 yard zone from line of scrimmage and see what happens.

And counter the pats shifting D with a fullback to help spring Portis and give us some change up from recent weeks.

Kanell and Lelie should work every day on timing on at least 3 or 4 longer passes until then can do it in their sleep, regardless of coverage.

If he can hook up with Lelie on a couple of scripted and well rehearsed plays early, that could break the game wide open and take a ton of pressure of both Kanell and Portis and give our Defense some added motivation to stuff Brady.

[Hulamau]

Furthermore, this could be the ANTI-Raiders MNF game of last year.

We come in with a decent record, but having lost 3 out of 4 and with everyone banged up and no one giving us much of a chance ala the Raiders last year and just the opposite of our situation (except for the minor little detail that they DID still have Gannon at QB).

In any event, if we win this one I say it will set us up for a big time playoff run and we will likely come back from the Bye smoking (assuming Kanell can play well enough to beat the Chargers and Bears while Plummer fully heals.)

If we lose, we aren't totally toast, but we would have to win at least 5 of the last 7, including all of our AFC games to have a decent chance at a wild card spot.

I'm hoping for a Bronco win 28-14 on Monday with 2 of our TDs coming from any combination of INT's, fumble or special teams.

[Spider]

Originally posted by PatsWin2002
So do you think Denver being favored by 2 points makes sense? I do.

Is anyone going to the game?
Well Normaly the Home team , gets 3 points home field advantage 2 points says alot about the pats ........... you guys have just as Many if not more injuries ..............

[baja]

Originally posted by PatsWin2002


Hey! This isn't Chiefsplanet! You're nice here...remember?

Hey where's my girl friend !

and who told Jerry Lewis he could dance?

[PatsWin2002]

Originally posted by baja fan


Hey where's my girl friend !

and who told Jerry Lewis he could dance?

SoCal is using her right now. (Sounds like sloppy seconds!)

Here......get your fix:

[-Slap-]

All Time Favorite Patriots Moments:

1 - Hog Hannah leading Craig James on the sweep, and smooshing two Raiders, en route to the game winning touchdown, in the playoffs in 1985.

2 - The King Homer episode of The Simpsons, when the headhunters jump out of the bushes chanting "Mosi Tatupu, Mosi Tatupu!"

[PatsWin2002]

Originally posted by -Slap-
All Time Favorite Patriots Moments:

1 - Hog Hannah leading Craig James on the sweep, and smooshing two Raiders, en route to the game winning touchdown, in the playoffs in 1985.

2 - The King Homer episode of The Simpsons, when the headhunters jump out of the bushes chanting "Mosi Tatupu, Mosi Tatupu!"

Both EXCELLENT moments.

Hoggy is one of our few Hall of Famers and you never had to guess where Mosi was....just look for the guy with all the hair sticking out the back of his helmet.

[SoCalBronco]

thats a cool avatar shot of the old pats logo patswin. When i was a kid and on Sega Genesis all day, i used to think that old pats logo was just a picture of Street Fighter's M. Bison about to snap a ball.

[BroncoWilliam]

Originally posted by SoCalBronco
thats a cool avatar shot of the old pats logo patswin. When i was a kid and on Sega Genesis all day, i used to think that old pats logo was just a picture of Street Fighter's M. Bison about to snap a ball.

It is a cool avatar, and thats funnier that shiat!:laugh:

[Arkie]

Patswin, I love the logo. That avatar is a classic!

[Arkie]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?s=&postid=157819

I love these unis! They have the American Patriots and the bicentennial 1976 spirit!

[orange 4 life]

Originally posted by PatsWin2002
So do you think Denver being favored by 2 points makes sense? I do.

Is anyone going to the game?

section 538, row 24, seat 15 as always!!

i look forward to the monday night home games because it makes the drive more tolerable. we'll drive up from nm sat night (6 hrs.) and leave tuesday. its the few games where i had to work monday that were killer!! last time i did that i got there at 4 am sun morning, went to the game, drove 6 hrs. home and went to work at 8:30 monday. this one should be enjoyable as a mini vacation.

anyway, let me know if youre going or need any help with where to go, where to park, etc. ill always help an opposing fan thats got some class.

i went to the denver/oakland game 8 years in a row in ca. in full bronco gear.
friggin scary!!
we may give a little verbal abuse in denver, but other than that its a great place for anyone to see a game. id be glad to offer advice to anyone going for the first time.

jake

ps- the spread seems about right. its tough to call and pick em seems more on the mark, but we usually get a distinct home field advantage with the oddsmakers.

[PatsWin2002]

Jake - enjoy the game.

I've never even been to Denver......and I seldom get to Foxboro now that I think of it.

A buddy of mine has season tickets and he offers me a seat every now and then, but I hate the thought of spending $75 for one of his crappy seats.....plus a bunch to park and eat. The 2 hours to get out of the parking lot is always fun too.....

I need better friends.......what an ingrate I am!

[dolphanatic99]

Pats 31
Ponys 10 (maybe Jackson runs one in)

rofl

Don't forget to watch that Griese kid whoop up on the Colts!

[HEAV]

Originally posted by dolphanatic99
Pats 31
Ponys 10 (maybe Jackson runs one in)

rofl

Don't forget to watch that Griese kid whoop up on the Colts!


So Whoop means getting sacked 5 time's and fumbling twice!!!! Ahhh I see!!!!!;D

[SJ Bronco]

Thats what we called it when he was here. Guess maybe he might need an O-line like every other Qb in the leauge? ???

[Rocket 7]

Here we go again

[Rock Chalk]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?s=&postid=157819

I love these unis! They have the American Patriots and the bicentennial 1976 spirit!
My mom and day had that spirit too, I was born in 76 ;D

[ant1999e]

I was confused for a few seconds there. 2003 was a couple of years ago. Did we win?

[ClevelandBronco2]

Patriots as rivals? Let's get serious. Our Broncs haven't made it out the first round since the Pats began to establish their dynasty.

Bill may be sincere in his praise for Mike. Bill comes from a defensive mindset and Shanny comes from an offensive tradition. Bill may covet Mike's offensive skills, but give me Bill's defensive strategy every time.

Bellichick's recent rings trump Shanny's more antique rings.

[ClevelandBronco2]

Let's get by the Colts once before we begin to pretend we're meant to fill the Patriots' seat at the table.

[ludo21]

wow, its cool to see who was around here 2 years back.

Seems that back then it was a tight family, now there are tons of us here.

I just joined in March and i hope ill be here long enough to look back in 2 years. :thumbs:

[Arkie]

Pats 31
Ponys 10 (maybe Jackson runs one in)

rofl

Don't forget to watch that Griese kid whoop up on the Colts!


This is too funny looking back at what followed...

With the game on the line, however, it was Dwight Freeney who saved the day for the Indianapolis Colts. The speedy defensive end forced a fumble by sacking Brian Griese with two minutes left, and Indianapolis stopped a comeback bid by the Miami Dolphins to win 23-17.
http://images.nfl.com/images/fieldpass/IND@MIA_20031102_recap.jpg

[Nuggets4]

Patriots as rivals? Let's get serious. Our Broncs haven't made it out the first round since the Pats began to establish their dynasty.

Look at the dates of the previous posts.

[Tredici]

I hope the only call that goes right for the Pats today is the one to the National Guard.

[PatsWin2002]

Wow - a 2-year old thread unearthed.

I kinda miss those old icons for the threads. Wasn't there a Gary Coleman icon for any Ray Rhodes thread? And there was a gameday one and a clown....(thinking back).

Anyway, that game 2 years ago.....wasn't that the game in Foxboro that the Broncos won that OrangeDoofus went to and then posted the pics?

[Arkie]

Brady lead Patriots to 30-26 comeback after the shrewdest call of the NFL season, a deliberate safety, trailing 24-23, backed up on their own 1 on fourth down with 2:49 left.

[Rock Chalk]

Brady lead Patriots to 30-26 comeback after the shrewdest call of the NFL season, a deliberate safety, trailing 24-23, backed up on their own 1 on fourth down with 2:49 left.
God damn miracle they got the ball back. Why the hell didnt we just run the clock out?

[Arkie]

Danny Kannell was the QB. I don't really remember the playcalling. Probably a three and out with Portis against a stacked line.

[Arkie]

God damn miracle they got the ball back. Why the hell didnt we just run the clock out?


Denver Broncos at 2:49, (1st play from scrimmage 2:46)
1-10-DEN 15 (2:46) 26-C.Portis right guard to DEN 17 for 2 yards (96-R.Lyle).
Timeout #1 by NE at 02:41.
2-8-DEN 17 (2:41) PENALTY on DEN-78-M.Lepsis, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at DEN 17 - No Play.
2-13-DEN 12 (2:41) 26-C.Portis up the middle to DEN 19 for 7 yards (50-M.Vrabel).
Timeout #2 by NE at 02:31.
3-6-DEN 19 (2:31) 13-D.Kanell pass incomplete to 85-A.Lelie (24-T.Law).
4-6-DEN 19 (2:26) 4-M.Knorr punts 48 yards to NE 33, Center-83-M.Leach. 80-T.Brown to NE 42 for 9 yards (55-K.Burns).

New England Patriots at 2:15
1-10-NE 42 (2:15) 12-T.Brady pass to 33-K.Faulk to NE 47 for 5 yards (57-J.Sykes).
Two-Minute Warning
2-5-NE 47 (2:00) 12-T.Brady pass to 33-K.Faulk to DEN 34 for 19 yards (56-A.Wilson). P15
Penalty on DEN-25-N.Ferguson, Defensive Holding, declined.
1-10-DEN 34 (1:50) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete to 80-T.Brown.
2-10-DEN 34 (1:46) 32-A.Smith up the middle to DEN 34 for no gain (56-A.Wilson).
3-10-DEN 34 (1:05) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass to 33-K.Faulk to DEN 18 for 16 yards (35-L.Walls). P16
1-10-DEN 18 (:36) 12-T.Brady pass to 87-D.Givens for 18 yards, TOUCHDOWN. P17 4-A.Vinatieri extra point is GOOD, Center-66-L.Paxton, Holder-13-K.Walter.
NE 30 DEN 26, 6 plays, 58 yards, 1:45 drive, 14:30 elapsed
4-A.Vinatieri kicks 74 yards from NE 30 to DEN -4. 81-C.Cole to DEN 23 for 27 yards (39-S.Mayer).
PENALTY on DEN-58-T.Pierce, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at DEN 23.

Denver Broncos at 0:30, (1st play from scrimmage 0:23)
1-10-DEN 13 (:23) (Shotgun) 13-D.Kanell pass incomplete to 26-C.Portis.
2-10-DEN 13 (:19) (Shotgun) 13-D.Kanell pass intended for 85-A.Lelie INTERCEPTED by 22-A.Samuel at NE 34. 22-A.Samuel to NE 34 for no gain (85-A.Lelie).

New England Patriots at 0:07
1-10-NE 34 (:07) 12-T.Brady kneels to NE 33 for -1 yards.