Clady, Harris: Bookends for the future - Interesting Shanny quote

[Inkana7]

Clady, Harris: Bookends for the future
By Jim Armstrong
The Denver Post

Sometimes a bad break can turn out to be a good break, literally and figuratively.

Case in point: Chris Kuper's broken right hand.

Kuper, a fifth-rounder in 2006, started 11 games at left guard last season, but was going to be in the mix at right tackle this year. But a broken right hand put an end to that notion, forcing Kuper to move inside to right guard.

That all but handed the starting tackle job to second-year man Ryan Harris, who experienced a washout rookie season after undergoing back surgery. Lo and behold, Harris has played well enough for Mike Shanahan to predict that Harris and No. 1 draft choice Ryan Clady will anchor the Broncos' line for years to come.

"They'll be here for years and years and years," said Shanahan. "You can see that through the first two exhibitions games. We've got two guys who look very good right now.

"It's a learning experience. They're going to have some tough games. But they're excellent athletes, they're great competitiors and they're learning every day on the job."

Two tackles, both draft choices, on the same offensive line. In case you're wondering, no, that isn't business as usual at Dove Valley. The Broncos haven't had two draft choices who've been their usual starters at tackle since Ken Lanier and Jeff Davidson in 1991.

And to think, Harris is in his second season and Clady is a rookie. If all goes as planned, the Broncos won't have to use any high draft picks at that position for the foreseeable future.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_10255632

[Br0nc0Buster]

If those tackles pan out, our offense should be real good for a long time.

The only position I would address I high pick on for the offense is runningback if Selvin, Andre, and Ryan cant get it done.

We need to focus on improving the front 7 on defense.
But we have a looot of potential for the offense.

[DomCasual]

That's just beautiful. I hope it turns out to be right.

Jay Cutler at QB. Ryan Clady at LT. Ryan Harris at RT. Brandon Marshall at WR. Tony Scheffler at TE.

That's five key players on offense that could be solid (if not great) for years to come.

[broncofan2438]

Yup, I smell the playoffs

[theAPAOps5]

Shanny made what essentially was a guarantee to make the playoffs for a reason. At least on the offensive side of the ball there is much to be pleased with. He has been very positive about the OLine in all the interviews I have heard.

[wolf754life]

I'm very happy with Clady and Harris, the interior will have to be upgraded soon, Hamilton is getting long in the tooth and expensive..........Nalen is done.

This team needs to upgrade runningback desperately!

the defense is definitely not a finished product.

no specialty teams, i was at practice today, and i'll tell you right now this team does NOT make the playoff. Some of the broncos staffers have told me privately that bowlen has laid down the law, playoff or bust

[summerdenver]

no specialty teams, i was at practice today, and i'll tell you right now this team does NOT make the playoff.

I thought the practices were closed to public?

Some of the broncos staffers have told me privately that bowlen has laid down the law, playoff or bust

Is it for real? Bowlen does not come accross the type of person who would say that. But who knows.........

[Pat Bowlen]

Is it for real? Bowlen does not come accross the type of person who would say that. But who knows.........
I do. Don't worry, wolf's just getting his wet dreams confused with reality again.

[summerdenver]

I do. Don't worry, wolf's just getting his wet dreams confused with reality again.

ROFL!

[ZONA]

.........and to think, half the mane was crying for the head of Harris after the Texans game. When I finally got to watch it, I thought he was pretty solid for the most part. A few penalties but still solid. And then against the Cowgirls, another solid game.

SHUT UP you frickin whiny over reactin wannabe coaches out there. Give this guy some games to get in the groove will ya. I think he's gonna pan out.

[FireFly]

I ’m not particularly worried about the interior either, and I said this in another thread. Hamilton moves over to center. Kuper at LG, and Holland a RG and we’re good to go ☺

[Atwater His Ass]

I ’m not particularly worried about the interior either, and I said this in another thread. Hamilton moves over to center. Kuper at LG, and Holland a RG and we’re good to go ☺

You're replacing one injury prone guy (Nalen) with another (Hamilton). We need to look at building the interior OL, but it's not a drastic need at this point like LB and S.

[Atlas]

I'm very happy with Clady and Harris, the interior will have to be upgraded soon, Hamilton is getting long in the tooth and expensive..........Nalen is done.

This team needs to upgrade runningback desperately!

the defense is definitely not a finished product.

no specialty teams, i was at practice today, and i'll tell you right now this team does NOT make the playoff. Some of the broncos staffers have told me privately that bowlen has laid down the law, playoff or bust

If Hamilton doesn't have any reaccurrance of the concusion problem he can play another 3 years easy. Kuper, Pears, Clady and Harris make up a very young and solid OL. Pears despite the flak he gets some of it deserved will be a quality backup/sometime starter in the NFL for 10 years.

[Atlas]

I ’m not particularly worried about the interior either, and I said this in another thread. Hamilton moves over to center. Kuper at LG, and Holland a RG and we’re good to go ☺

Hamilton is no longer a C. He has played G his entire career. Shanny has already stated that he will not move him.

[Atlas]

no specialty teams, i was at practice today, and i'll tell you right now this team does NOT make the playoff. Some of the broncos staffers have told me privately that bowlen has laid down the law, playoff or bust

"Does not make the playoffs?"

Before you were predicting they were going to be 6-10. So which is it? Are you predictingthem to go 6-10 or not make the playoffs? I mean it's possible Denver goes 10-6 and doesn't make the playoffs.

[bpc]

We need to add another young interior lineman (Alex Mack, Max Unger), another player at HB to compete with Young, Hall, Torain and Aldridge and another guy to line up wide so Royal can take over for Stokely in the slot.

Do these things and our offense will be going nuclear. I've said it before, we should model building Cutler's team after the way that Indy did it for Manning. If you prop the offense, the defense will come. So will many 12, 13 and 14 win seasons and a few super bowls.

[chanesaw]

Don't forget that we have Kory being groomed right now too.

[Ratboy]

It's going to be a very exciting year!

[Dendave]

That's just beautiful. I hope it turns out to be right.

Jay Cutler at QB. Ryan Clady at LT. Ryan Harris at RT. Brandon Marshall at WR. Tony Scheffler at TE.

That's five key players on offense that could be solid (if not great) for years to come.

Are we going to be able to afford all of them without hurting the rest of the team?

[chrisp]

I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised to see us take one or two more 3rd of 4th round picks over the next couple of years on interior linemen. We may be finding ourselves shifting to a slightly more pass-oriented offense which means bigger guys for better pass pro, and we better draft them higher if we don't want to sacrifice athleticism for that size. Not suggesting massive changes, and I'm sure we will continue to sift around in the late rounds and FA for bargains but i still detect a subtle change of philosophy.

For years we made a point of having a completely different approach and making gems out of other people's trash. Now we're falling into line a bit withthe rest of the league.

But I still think its only the difference between having the lightest and most athletic lines, to merely having one of the lighter and more athletic lines, not a masive change. Plus a talent upgrade in some areas as well....

[no-pseudo-fan]

I like it. The Ryans(kinds of like the Corey's, without the drugs) are symbolic of the change in the way business is done in Denver. If we can continue to draft like this, we might be looking at a 2nd golden age of Broncos football.
The most important person is Jay. I think it is easy to find a lot of positions, but to find a Franchise QB is like finding a specific needle in a sea of needles.

[lex]

Clady, Harris: Bookends for the future
By Jim Armstrong
The Denver Post

Sometimes a bad break can turn out to be a good break, literally and figuratively.

Case in point: Chris Kuper's broken right hand.

Kuper, a fifth-rounder in 2006, started 11 games at left guard last season, but was going to be in the mix at right tackle this year. But a broken right hand put an end to that notion, forcing Kuper to move inside to right guard.

That all but handed the starting tackle job to second-year man Ryan Harris, who experienced a washout rookie season after undergoing back surgery. Lo and behold, Harris has played well enough for Mike Shanahan to predict that Harris and No. 1 draft choice Ryan Clady will anchor the Broncos' line for years to come.

"They'll be here for years and years and years," said Shanahan. "You can see that through the first two exhibitions games. We've got two guys who look very good right now.

"It's a learning experience. They're going to have some tough games. But they're excellent athletes, they're great competitiors and they're learning every day on the job."

Two tackles, both draft choices, on the same offensive line. In case you're wondering, no, that isn't business as usual at Dove Valley. The Broncos haven't had two draft choices who've been their usual starters at tackle since Ken Lanier and Jeff Davidson in 1991.

And to think, Harris is in his second season and Clady is a rookie. If all goes as planned, the Broncos won't have to use any high draft picks at that position for the foreseeable future.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_10255632

Was Kuper playing guard because of his hand or because Holland came in overweight? The latter makes more sense to me.

[lex]

I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised to see us take one or two more 3rd of 4th round picks over the next couple of years on interior linemen. We may be finding ourselves shifting to a slightly more pass-oriented offense which means bigger guys for better pass pro, and we better draft them higher if we don't want to sacrifice athleticism for that size. Not suggesting massive changes, and I'm sure we will continue to sift around in the late rounds and FA for bargains but i still detect a subtle change of philosophy.

For years we made a point of having a completely different approach and making gems out of other people's trash. Now we're falling into line a bit withthe rest of the league.

But I still think its only the difference between having the lightest and most athletic lines, to merely having one of the lighter and more athletic lines, not a masive change. Plus a talent upgrade in some areas as well....

Our blocking system as caught on with other teams. Its easier to find guys when youre the only one doing something. But since people have copied what we have done, its not as easy to acquire talent as it was.

On another note, I have been one who has been really skeptical of the Harris pick. Fasting and a bad back seemed like a bad combination but if Harris pans out and plays well vs just being some guy in the lineup, that would be a huge bonus. I really hope I was wrong on him. I like Kuper also and it would have been nice to see him get a crack at RT but he had to cover for Holland. Now, hopefully Lichtensteiger pans out.

[Garcia Bronco]

I'm very happy with Clady and Harris, the interior will have to be upgraded soon, Hamilton is getting long in the tooth and expensive..........Nalen is done.

This team needs to upgrade runningback desperately!

the defense is definitely not a finished product.

no specialty teams, i was at practice today, and i'll tell you right now this team does NOT make the playoff. Some of the broncos staffers have told me privately that bowlen has laid down the law, playoff or bust

Oh butter.

[theAPAOps5]

Thank god we didn't go all Madden and draft a Mendenhall huh Lex. I mean no one here wanted us to draft a RB did they, Lex. Now we hopefully have bookend T for the future thank god they drafted this way. I mean it would have been stupid to draft a RB, huh Lex.

[dbfan21]

These guys will have some struggles this year, but hopefully their athleticism and intelligence will reduce the amount of errors. This combination will certainly ease a lot of concerns for the next 8-10 years on our o-line.

Awesome stuff!!

[Dedhed]

I was impressed with the play of both Ts in the Dallas game. Against the Texans you could see Clady was surprised by the speed in his first live action, but I was extrememly impressed with how well he adjusted in that game and then into the Dallas game. Those are two of the best DEs he's going to face all year. Harris made some mental mistakes in the Texans game, but was pretty good in his blocking assignments. Against the Cowboys he eliminated the mental errors, and was very solid.

I think both Clady and Harris will be very good in pass protection right away, but they're going to have some struggles blocking for the run. Combined with Cutler's ability, and Marshall/Royal, and I think we'll see more passing this year than we've seen in a long time.

Overall, the development of Harris is going to serve the Broncos very well in the future.

[bronco militia]

shanny should be planning for the future when Harris's back starts to act up again.

[BusMan]

Was Kuper playing guard because of his hand or because Holland came in overweight? The latter makes more sense to me.

Good question. Everything I read coming into training camp had Kuper and Harris in a battle for the RT spot. RG wasn't up for grabs until Holland reported over weight, and the time he missed has helped Kuper take hold of the job. Its really too bad because I think a lot of fans considered Holland our most consistent offensive lineman last year. I wonder how this is all going to shake down on the 53-man roster.

[lex]

Good question. Everything I read coming into training camp had Kuper and Harris in a battle for the RT spot. RG wasn't up for grabs until Holland reported over weight, and the time he missed has helped Kuper take hold of the job. Its really too bad because I think a lot of fans considered Holland our most consistent offensive lineman last year. I wonder how this is all going to shake down on the 53-man roster.

I wonder if Hamilton will move over to C and Kuper to LG when Holland is ready to come back? The situation with Nalen is kind of sketchy at this point.

[BroncoBuff]

Some of the broncos staffers have told me privately ...
You have got to be kidding.

[Borks147]

You have got to be kidding.

a little bit of my soul dies every time he gets quoted (since my ignore feature usually works quite well). please cease and desist.

[BusMan]

I think a more likely scenario is that Holland might be able to earn his job back from Kuper over time, and Casey Weigmann mans the center position while Nalen heals.

[Eldorado]

Thank god we didn't go all Madden and draft a Mendenhall huh Lex. I mean no one here wanted us to draft a RB did they, Lex. Now we hopefully have bookend T for the future thank god they drafted this way. I mean it would have been stupid to draft a RB, huh Lex.

No, no, no..You clearly didn't understand his argument. He was fine with taking a tackle in the first round, and hopes he pans out. But economic theory stipulates that by neglecting to reinforce our strengths in the second round (when we took that little midget punt returner guy? What’s his name? man he sux), we are going to pay a steep penalty in lost opportunity cost. Man. You need to try and keep up, here, Apa. This is getting old.

[dsmoot]

I'm very happy with Clady and Harris, the interior will have to be upgraded soon, Hamilton is getting long in the tooth and expensive..........Nalen is done.

This team needs to upgrade runningback desperately!

the defense is definitely not a finished product.

no specialty teams, i was at practice today, and i'll tell you right now this team does NOT make the playoff. Some of the broncos staffers have told me privately that bowlen has laid down the law, playoff or bust

There is always a need somewhere. We will never be completely tooled at the level we want to be. Even in 97/98, we had some weak areas.

[SportinOne]

Our draft strategy the next two years should be: Draft the best DE/DT/LB available in rounds 1-4.

[24champ]

Thank god we didn't go all Madden and draft a Mendenhall

Weeelllll.....I would have been fine with that selection.:wave:

[montrose]

They'll both take there lumps and need some help throughout the year, but we're setup for some long-term success if both Clady and Harris workout as bookends. I'm most excited that Kuper is going to stay at G as it's his natural-NFL position and allows us to stay powerful inside. Eventually I could see Kuper moving back over to LG if Holland can get his sh*t together and play as he did last year at RG with Hamilton at C. We could have a strong OL for years to come, something I've bi*ched about wanting for a long time.

[bpc]

Our draft strategy the next two years should be: Draft the best DE/DT/LB available in rounds 1-4.

I disagree. You can find alternatives that can become good defensive system players with vets.

Our goal over the next two years should be to surround Cutler with as much young talent and a offensive nucleus as we can a la Peyton Manning with the Colts.

They had Marvin Harrison, they still drafted Reggie Wayne.

We need a young back to step forward and take the bull by the horns, another receiving threat to cover for aging DJack/Stokely and Colbert who hasn't impressed... also to cover our losses should BMarsh have another offseason to remember next year.

I would also like to see us bring another interior offensive linemen in to cover ourselves with Nalen getting older. Alex Mack would be my choice.

[rmsanger]

I believe in Clady but no faith in Harris. I'm tired of believing the hype year after year on these scrubs. Will play the show me game before I have the faith.

[cutlerfan]

I tell you - I have been really impressed with outr line this year so far! They are blocking well.

[bpc]

I believe in Clady but no faith in Harris. I'm tired of believing the hype year after year on these scrubs. Will play the show me game before I have the faith.

he hasn't been hype so far. Blow for blow, he's been doing very well against 3 of the best pass rushers in the NFL, M. Williams, G. Ellis and D. Ware.

He'll have another tough matchup this week against Kampman from GB.

These guys are getting baptized by fire. Clady draws KGB this week which should be a good matchup as well.

[theAPAOps5]

I believe in Clady but no faith in Harris. I'm tired of believing the hype year after year on these scrubs. Will play the show me game before I have the faith.

Ummm why do you believe in Clady when he hasn't shown anything either. Yet you won't believe in Harris a 3rd round pick who should be far from a scrub. Yeah thats great logic.

[Drek]

he hasn't been hype so far. Blow for blow, he's been doing very well against 3 of the best pass rushers in the NFL, M. Williams, G. Ellis and D. Ware.

He'll have another tough matchup this week against Kampman from GB.

These guys are getting baptized by fire. Clady draws KGB this week which should be a good matchup as well.

Thats what I've been saying. The fact that these guys are going out and getting it done against the quality of DLs we've faced so far in pre-season, and the quality they'll continue to face the last two games, are excellent indicators as to how well they're doing.

Kampman and KGB this week, Dorsett and Bert Berry next week. If they keep playing like they have there aren't many pass rushers I don't trust them to be respectable against.

[Atlas]

Thank god we didn't go all Madden and draft a Mendenhall huh Lex. I mean no one here wanted us to draft a RB did they, Lex. Now we hopefully have bookend T for the future thank god they drafted this way. I mean it would have been stupid to draft a RB, huh Lex.

I'm not gonna lie. I was all over Stewart. Of course i wasn't upset with the Clady pick in the least.

[Doggcow]

I'm very happy with Clady and Harris, the interior will have to be upgraded soon, Hamilton is getting long in the tooth and expensive..........Nalen is done.

This team needs to upgrade runningback desperately!

the defense is definitely not a finished product.

no specialty teams, i was at practice today, and i'll tell you right now this team does NOT make the playoff. Some of the broncos staffers have told me privately that bowlen has laid down the law, playoff or bust

Says Mr. Eddie-Royal-is-the-worst-pick-ever

[Inkana7]

I disagree. You can find alternatives that can become good defensive system players with vets.

Our goal over the next two years should be to surround Cutler with as much young talent and a offensive nucleus as we can a la Peyton Manning with the Colts.

They had Marvin Harrison, they still drafted Marvin Harrison.

We need a young back to step forward and take the bull by the horns, another receiving threat to cover for aging DJack/Stokely and Colbert who hasn't impressed... also to cover our losses should BMarsh have another offseason to remember next year.

I would also like to see us bring another interior offensive linemen in to cover ourselves with Nalen getting older. Alex Mack would be my choice.

I would kill to have two Marvin Harrisons on my team.

[Smiling Assassin27]

This quote from Shanny comes as a bit of a surprise, given the harsh reviews of Harris in camp. What gives?

[sirhcyennek81]

no specialty teams, i was at practice today, and i'll tell you right now this team does NOT make the playoff. Some of the broncos staffers have told me privately that bowlen has laid down the law, playoff or bust


You dont think very often do you?


:Broncos:

[theAPAOps5]

I'm not gonna lie. I was all over Stewart. Of course i wasn't upset with the Clady pick in the least.

I'm not going to lie either. I would have been fine with RB but was happy with Clady too.

The difference btw you and I though is we didn't have an epic meltdown over it and start attacking people for disagreeing. Someone on this post who I won't name but it starts with Lex did just that. Its that period of time that led to me being put on ignore by him :spit:

[lex]

I'm not gonna lie. I was all over Stewart. Of course i wasn't upset with the Clady pick in the least.

LOL. Apparently that tool doesnt realize Ive had him on ignore for several months. Thats too funny.

[theAPAOps5]

LOL. Apparently that tool doesnt realize Ive had him on ignore for several months. Thats too funny.

See what I mean Atlas. Its awesome.

[Atlas]

I'm not going to lie either. I would have been fine with RB but was happy with Clady too.

The difference btw you and I though is we didn't have an epic meltdown over it and start attacking people for disagreeing. Someone on this post who I won't name but it starts with Lex did just that. Its that period of time that led to me being put on ignore by him :spit:

I never meltdown over what the Broncos do, because I unlike most people here actually keep track of what I say, and I find Shanny's track record is just a little bit better than mine!! Afterall I wanted Justin Miller over Darrent Williams and Desean Jackson over Eddie Royal. And so on and so forth.

[bpc]

I would kill to have two Marvin Harrisons on my team.

ha ha, i'm getting old, meant Reggie Wayne.

[2KBack]

This quote from Shanny comes as a bit of a surprise, given the harsh reviews of Harris in camp. What gives?

Those reviews came very early in camp, and Oskie went out of his way to mention that Ryan Harris looked better and better every day. Once the games started everyone has noticed the steady improvement. He been getting solid praise for a couple weeks now.

[broncosteven]

I was scared at Having Harris drafted as our LT last year.

I am glad he is working out at RT and Clady seems up to the task at LT so far.

It will be nice to home grow our line (Clady, Harris, Kuper) rather than have to bring in scrubs like Salaam hoping for quick fix.

Hamilton will be fine at C if his head is ok.

Bronco football is looking up.

[Kaylore]

I never meltdown over what the Broncos do, because I unlike most people here actually keep track of what I say, and I find Shanny's track record is just a little bit better than mine!! Afterall I wanted Justin Miller over Darrent Williams and Desean Jackson over Eddie Royal. And so on and so forth.

But what about Ed Reed? Did you want Ed Reed? Everyone here pretends that they did, even though most people forget that Lelie was the "smart" pick at the time. Still, we could have had Ed Reed and its important to mention this as often as possible. Ed Reed = Super bowls. Ed Reed has won seventy five of them.

[BroncoBuff]

Our draft strategy the next two years should be: Draft the best DE/DT/LB available in rounds 1-4.
I totally agree on the D-Line spots, plus safeties imo.

But I dunno about LB .... we're kinda overloaded there as it is. We're gonna have to let one or maybe two real players go as it is. Besides, Niko and Boss are locked up fr awhile, and they're probably gonna pay DJ, so there's your starters for 3-4 years. Plus Winborn, Webster, Woodyard, Larsen, Green, and Beck. The only guys with more than 5 years of NFL service are Webster and Winborn.

[TheReverend]

But what about Ed Reed? Did you want Ed Reed? Everyone here pretends that they did, even though most people forget that Lelie was the "smart" pick at the time. Still, we could have had Ed Reed and its important to mention this as often as possible. Ed Reed = Super bowls. Ed Reed has won seventy five of them.

Ed Who?

[Inkana7]

LOL. Apparently that tool doesnt realize Ive had him on ignore for several months. Thats too funny.

And yet you quote him. Interesting.

[ZONA]

Oh butter.

Really. Like wolf's contacts are closer to Bowlen then Shanny is. Weak talk there. Bowlen knows if he gave up Shanny there would be 20 other teams ready to sign him that very next second. What you're hearing is talk amoung the lowest level of Broncos staffers trying to act like they know something and they go off and tell their buddies, makes them feel empowerd. There have been some lean years lately but with so much looking like it's going in the right direction, with Cutler really starting to raise his play to elite status, only a fool owner would bail on Shanny at this point. Bowlen is no fool, I can tell you that. I mean, Bowlen knows how hard it is to win the Superbowl. NE found out last year, even with a perfect season, it's just so hard to win the damn thing. Everything has to go right almost all season long and even in the Superbowl. And just when you think you have everything going right, some other team gets super hot and has that one special game and your dust.

Shut up with the playoffs or bust crap.

[kmonty]

And yet you quote him. Interesting.

:spit: ROFL!

[Broncojef]

I totally agree on the D-Line spots, plus safeties imo.

But I dunno about LB .... we're kinda overloaded there as it is. We're gonna have to let one or maybe two real players go as it is. Besides, Niko and Boss are locked up fr awhile, and they're probably gonna pay DJ, so there's your starters for 3-4 years. Plus Winborn, Webster, Woodyard, Larsen, Green, and Beck. The only guys with more than 5 years of NFL service are Webster and Winborn.

I only agree with this statement if someone out of that mess of mediocrity steps up as our MLB both in performance and leadership. Hasn't been the same since Al left and you still can't convince me someone of his ilk isn't sorely what we need to take this Defense to the next level.

[Lestat]

sounds very nice & hopefully we have 2 pro bowl & all pro bookends for the next decade

[Cito Pelon]

EVERYBODY looks fine, according to Shanahan. Nalen looked fine, then had knee surgery the next day. I don't buy into a damn thing Shanny says until I see it.

[theAPAOps5]

And yet you quote him. Interesting.

In defense of Lex he quoted Atlas but I know he read my comment. Lex is a sad sad guy.

[epicSocialism4tw]

The prospect of having two young, solid tackles is very encouraging.

Cutler + solid OL + Shanahan's run game = bright future

You have to like the offense that we've been putting together through the draft over the past three seasons. A couple more strikes in the next two drafts would give the young Broncos a superbowl-type offense.

Devastating.

[TheChamp24]

If we took Stewart or Mendenhall, who the hell would be the LT right now? Pears? Kuper? Harris?
Then who would be the RT?

[epicSocialism4tw]

If we took Stewart or Mendenhall, who the hell would be the LT right now? Pears? Kuper? Harris?
Then who would be the RT?

It wouldn't matter who was in the backfield.

[TheChamp24]

It wouldn't matter who was in the backfield.

Exactly.

I wouldn't mind the pick of a RB, but our OL would be hurting.

[lex]

And yet you quote him. Interesting.


Yeah, Im sure its interesting. Im sure its quite hard for you to wrap your mind around.

[Atlas]

But what about Ed Reed? Did you want Ed Reed? Everyone here pretends that they did, even though most people forget that Lelie was the "smart" pick at the time. Still, we could have had Ed Reed and its important to mention this as often as possible. Ed Reed = Super bowls. Ed Reed has won seventy five of them.

Actually when Lelie started falling I would have been pissed if the Broncos would have passed on him.

My two Draft moments that I knew i was right and Denver was wrong was in 1988 and 1992. I knew in 1988 Denver should have selected Thurmon Thomas over Ted Gregory. In 1992 I knew Denver should have selected Carl Pickens over Tommy Maddox. EVERYONE knew these things except Dan Reeves!!

[Inkana7]

Yeah, Im sure its interesting. Im sure its quite hard for you to wrap your mind around.

A simple nave such as myself? You have no idea how hard it is.

[Kaylore]

Actually when Lelie started falling I would have been pissed if the Broncos would have passed on him.
Everyone would have been. But that doesn't stop people pretending they "knew" Ed Reed was the right choice at the time - even though we needed help at receiver and safety wasn't our biggest hole at the time. That's one of the reasons rewinding these things is so stupid. They project our needs now as though they were the same then, and assume we were "so stupid" for passing on such-and-such player when at the time it would have looked stupid.

[bowtown]

Everyone would have been. But that doesn't stop people pretending they "knew" Ed Reed was the right choice at the time - even though we needed help at receiver and safety wasn't our biggest hole at the time. That's one of the reasons rewinding these things is so stupid. They project our needs now as though they were the same then, and assume we were "so stupid" for passing on such-and-such player when at the time it would have looked stupid.

Not to mention that Ed Reed is overrated and simply not as good as some people would like to make him out to be.

[azbroncfan]

Actually when Lelie started falling I would have been pissed if the Broncos would have passed on him.

My two Draft moments that I knew i was right and Denver was wrong was in 1988 and 1992. I knew in 1988 Denver should have selected Thurmon Thomas over Ted Gregory. In 1992 I knew Denver should have selected Carl Pickens over Tommy Maddox. EVERYONE knew these things except Dan Reeves!!

My draft moment was S. Jackson over DJ. Denver just traded Portis the one weapon teams feared when playing Denver and now had a chance to get the best RB in the draft who was never supposed to drop there. Instead they took an underachieving athletic LB in DJ.

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Not to mention that Ed Reed is overrated and simply not as good as some people would like to make him out to be.

Impossible!

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Not to mention that Ed Reed is overrated and simply not as good as some people would like to make him out to be.

How dare you? I think I made it perfectly clear that Ed Reed is the greatest football player of time and space and he has won seventy five super bowls. Every team he's played on has gone undefeated. He's the greatest ever. EVER!!!!