Oh, what could have been....

[TheChamp24]

1998 NFL Draft
Round 1:
Denver Broncos select WR Marcus Nash
What could've been: Our bookend LT in Flozell Adams

2000 NFL Draft
Round 1:
Denver Broncos select CB Deltha O'Neal
What could've been: Pro Bowl LB Julian Peterson, or Sebastian Janikowski, who was picked right after O'Neal ROFL!

2001 NFL Draft
Round 1:
Denver Broncos select CB Willie Middlebrooks
What could've been: Pro Bowl WR Reggie Wayne, Pro Bowl DE Kyle Vanden Bosch

2003 NFL Draft
Round 1:
Denver Broncos select the turnstile George Foster
What could've been: Nnamdi Asomugha

2004 NFL Draft
Round 1:
Denver Broncos select LB DJ Williams
What could've been: RB Steven Jackson, DE Will Smith, DT Vince "I like to cheapshot people" Wilfork

2005 NFL Draft
Broncos take Maurice Clarett in the 3rd round
What could've been: Marion Barber

And everyone's favorite:

2002 NFL Draft
Round 1:
Denver Broncos select WR Ashley Lelie
What could've been:
ZOMG ED REED?!?!?!?
http://paxarcana.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/kid_crying.jpg

And the purpose of this thread? I'm bored and I cry looking back at our horrible drafts in the past.

[Inkana7]

Ed Reeeeedd!!!

[SBboundBroncos]

wow thank you for ruining what WAS an excellent day

[Dukes]

I have no problems with the DJ pick. He's going to tear it up this year.

[kmonty]

And there were 300 or so picks in 1994 that could have been Rod Smith.

[theAPAOps5]

I am just fine with DJ Williams. Maybe if he can play a position for more than a year he will get to the pro-bowl.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I am just fine with DJ Williams. Maybe if he can play a position for more than a year he will get to the pro-bowl.

This is easier said than done. DJ is an OLB in a 4-3 scheme. I don't have the number offhand, but go and look up how many 4-3 OLB's make the Pro Bowl. Very few in the last 5-6 years.

[Spider]

another we should have drafted Ed Reed thread ?

[Rock Chalk]

I have no problems with the DJ pick. He's going to tear it up this year.

Haha.

Thats funny.

[NYBronc]

We got a third round pick for Lelie from the Redskins used for Ryan Harris. That could still work out.

[Florida_Bronco]

Yeah, this needed to be rehashed again.

[DenverBrit]

http://paxarcana.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/kid_crying.jpg
I cry looking back at our horrible drafts in the past.

Stop looking back. Just a suggestion. Ha!

[BroncoMan4ever]

1998 NFL Draft
Round 1:
Denver Broncos select WR Marcus Nash
What could've been: Our bookend LT in Flozell Adams

2000 NFL Draft
Round 1:
Denver Broncos select CB Deltha O'Neal
What could've been: Pro Bowl LB Julian Peterson, or Sebastian Janikowski, who was picked right after O'Neal ROFL!

2001 NFL Draft
Round 1:
Denver Broncos select CB Willie Middlebrooks
What could've been: Pro Bowl WR Reggie Wayne, Pro Bowl DE Kyle Vanden Bosch

2003 NFL Draft
Round 1:
Denver Broncos select the turnstile George Foster
What could've been: Nnamdi Asomugha

2004 NFL Draft
Round 1:
Denver Broncos select LB DJ Williams
What could've been: RB Steven Jackson, DE Will Smith, DT Vince "I like to cheapshot people" Wilfork

2005 NFL Draft
Broncos take Maurice Clarett in the 3rd round
What could've been: Marion Barber

And everyone's favorite:

2002 NFL Draft
Round 1:
Denver Broncos select WR Ashley Lelie
What could've been:
ZOMG ED REED?!?!?!?
http://paxarcana.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/kid_crying.jpg

And the purpose of this thread? I'm bored and I cry looking back at our horrible drafts in the past.

well thank you Debbie Downer. i had been reading all the good things about the Broncos and Cutler and now that all went to ****

[theAPAOps5]

Haha.

Thats funny.

I bet he does his best year came at Weak side. But you have a hard on for hating him so I know facts will be lost on you.

[Br0nc0Buster]

We have been drafting better lately though

It seems our drafting has improved a lot since 2004. And I think this year's draft could turn out to be a real good one like the 06 draft.

With the exception of the Jarvis Moss pick(hopefully Shanny learned his lesson), I have been satisfied with our recent drats.

[NYBronc]

2005 NFL Draft. We trade our #1 to the Skins for their 2005 #3, 2006#1, and 2006#4.

Basically with a little more maneuvering through Atlanta and St. Louis we gave up Jason Campbell, Claude Wroten, and some other scrub for Jay Cutler, Brandon Marshall and Karl Paymah.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

seriously, this is dumb. As the person who mentioned rod smith suggested, we can reel off all of denver's late round successes too.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

I'm convinced he MoC pick was a barb flung by God himself to make me repent. I sold my soul for the SB 32 win. We're even now.

[NYBronc]

seriously, this is dumb. As the person who mentioned rod smith suggested, we can reel off all of denver's late round successes too.

Yeah and at least we often get value for our "busts." The Bailey Portis trade gave us Tatum Bell who we used with Foster for Dre Bly. Basically with that free pick, we have arguably the best CB tandem in the league for Portis and Foster.

Plus, we used the Deltha O'Neil trade with Cincinnati to move up to get DJ.

[Kaylore]

Wait, we could have had Ed Reed?

[BroncoMan4ever]

also, look at the past few drafts. who cares about players who in all likelihood would have already left in free agency when we have players we recently drafted are coming into their own in front of our eyes.

[fdf]

Wait, we could have had Ed Reed?

I wonder why someone hasn't brought this up before.

With all the knowledgeable people on this forum, you think someone would have figured that out before today.

[wolf754life]

Draft Bust O Han

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Draft Bust O Han

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j290/chasepatton/Gay_Called.jpg

[BMF Bronco]

Wait, we could have had Ed Reed?

who??????

[Taco John]

The good news is that we'll be able to read all of our former GM's great analysis on PFT.

[Broncosfreak_56]

As bad as the drafts have been, at least we didn't draft Broderick Bunkley in 2006 instead of Jay Cutler.

[ElwayMD]

1998 NFL Draft
Round 1:
Denver Broncos select WR Marcus Nash
What could've been: Our bookend LT in Flozell Adams Still had a solid line at the time didn't have a gamebreaking reciever

2000 NFL Draft
Round 1:
Denver Broncos select CB Deltha O'Neal
What could've been: Pro Bowl LB Julian Peterson, or Sebastian Janikowski, who was picked right after O'Neal ROFL! Didn't need a kicker

2001 NFL Draft
Round 1:
Denver Broncos select CB Willie Middlebrooks
What could've been: Pro Bowl WR Reggie Wayne, Pro Bowl DE Kyle Vanden Bosch Bad draft

2003 NFL Draft
Round 1:
Denver Broncos select the turnstile George Foster
What could've been: Nnamdi AsomughaBad draft

2004 NFL Draft
Round 1:
Denver Broncos select LB DJ Williams
What could've been: RB Steven Jackson, DE Will Smith, DT Vince "I like to cheapshot people" Wilfork
We win this round

2005 NFL Draft
Broncos take Maurice Clarett in the 3rd round draft we will never live down
What could've been: Marion Barber

And everyone's favorite:

2002 NFL Draft
Round 1:
Denver Broncos select WR Ashley Lelie Once again at this time our D was soild and we didn't have that speed reciever
What could've been:
ZOMG ED REED?!?!?!?
http://paxarcana.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/kid_crying.jpg

And the purpose of this thread? I'm bored and I cry looking back at our horrible drafts in the past.

We drafted to our needs at the time. We have drafted very poorly in the past but if you play the look at who we could have gotten x amount of years later you don't take into account what the real need of the team was during that year.

[bap454]

or better yet.... Jarvis Moss over Beason..... YIKES!!!!

[no-pseudo-fan]

I am in such a good mood, start of a new season and all, so I like to think of it that we had to kiss a bunch of frogs til we got our prince(jay cutler). With him on board, The pieces are just falling into place, I am too excited to think about past failures.

[chrisp]

Ed f***ing Reed? FatsackofS**twhocan'tjumpreadplaysf**kingtackleora nything - uselessloserwasteofadraftpickhewouldhavebeen!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

Sorry, been getting sick of reading all those frothing at the mouth posts we get, just had to fire back. I don't even know who Ed Reed is....

[Kaylore]

I don't even know who Ed Reed is....
Why he is the greatest player in time and space! All our football troubles would have been solved by drafting Ed Reed, don't you know. The team he went to became a juggernaut in the NFL and a frequent playoff contender. At least that's what it seems considering how many people insist he was the answer.

[theAPAOps5]

Why he is the greatest player in time and space! All our football troubles would have been solved by drafting Ed Reed, don't you know. The team he went to became a juggernaut in the NFL and a frequent playoff contender. At least that's what it seems considering how many people insist he was the answer.

Ed Reeds poop makes lawns grow green and lush. Its also used in plastics, clothing, and hair gel.

[BMarsh615]

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j290/chasepatton/Gay_Called.jpg

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Man-Goblin]

As bad as the drafts have been, at least we didn't draft Broderick Bunkley in 2006 instead of Jay Cutler.

I had a dream once that I had a choice between putting my hand in a blender or going back in time to watch the Broncos take Bunkley over Cutler and watch a montage of Cutler's hall of fame career for the Vikings.

I took the blender.

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/JOENEJALJMOD/bunkley_gal_060429.jpg

[lex]

The good news is that we'll be able to read all of our former GM's great analysis on PFT.

Yeah, and he can once again attempt to explain how those picks made sense...followed by explaining why he no longer is employed by an NFL team.

[Crushaholic]

"Believe In Now" :D

[Kaylore]

Yeah, and he can once again attempt to explain how those picks made sense...followed by explaining why he no longer is employed by an NFL team.

I'd love to sit down with Sundquist.

Me: So there's been a lot of bad selections over the years. Did this cause your termination from the front office?

Sundquist: No. Those picks weren't mine. I wanted to pick other, better players but Shanahan wouldn't let me.

Me: So do you think it was over the bad free agents the Broncos brought in? A lot of money was given to players for a minimal amount of production.

Sundquist: No. That was all Shanahan too. Shanahan brought all those guys in.

Me: Well then surely they feel you are at least partly to blame for the things that have happened to the team.

Sundquist: Hey, I wanted them to let Jake play out the season! I was upset about him getting benched. You can read it in Fatsis' book.

Me: Ted, you didn't help with the draft. You didn't help in free agency. However you did want to keep a lame duck QB starting. Ted, what exactly did you do for the Broncos?

Sundquist: I uh...well...DRAFT BUSTAHAN!!!!!

Me: I'm sorry?

Sundquist: Mikey Mansion fired ME! I will have my revenge! Florio and I will fill cyberspace with slander until he is ruined! DRAFT BUSTOHANNN!!!!!!

Me: It all makes sense now.

[PRBronco]

Terribad thread :(

[TheChamp24]

We drafted to our needs at the time. We have drafted very poorly in the past but if you play the look at who we could have gotten x amount of years later you don't take into account what the real need of the team was during that year.

First, you don't draft for need.

1998 - our tackles were getting old, why not draft their eventual replacement?

2000 - I only included Janikowski because he was drafted right after Deltha, lol

2004 - what is the love with DJ? He hasn't proved squat, while Jackson, Smith and Wilfork are all Pro Bowlers

2002 - BUT ED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[ElwayMD]

First, you don't draft for need.

1998 - our tackles were getting old, why not draft their eventual replacement?

2000 - I only included Janikowski because he was drafted right after Deltha, lol

2004 - what is the love with DJ? He hasn't proved squat, while Jackson, Smith and Wilfork are all Pro Bowlers

2002 - BUT ED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

You don't draft to your teams need? Then what exactly do you draft for? Shanny isn't a "in the future" coach he wants to win now. That's why they drafted who they did. The players they thought they needed to win another SB.

Please you lose any credibility when you say you don't draft for need.

[jutang]

As bad as the drafts have been, at least we didn't draft Broderick Bunkley in 2006 instead of Jay Cutler.

My DVR recorded the 2007 Broncos yearbook. It's amazing what you can do with editing. Add some upbeat music, fireworks over Invesco field, and 10 sec clips of the offense with 1/2 sec clips of the defense, the broncos look really good.

They ended up showing a couple of the Cutler option plays and him running downfield to throw a block or two. As fun as that was, I really hope Shanny decides not to do that again. Those games saving drives and Scheffler/Marshall highlights do have me excited for the season to start.!Booya!

[TheChamp24]

You don't draft to your teams need? Then what exactly do you draft for? Shanny isn't a "in the future" coach he wants to win now. That's why they drafted who they did. The players they thought they needed to win another SB.

Please you lose any credibility when you say you don't draft for need.

No, drafting for need causes you to sometime take a guy higher than he should be taken while a better player at a different position is available.
49ers drafted for need, taking a QB #1 overall a few years back. How did that turn out?
I'm in the belief you take the best available player.

[MechanicalBull]

And in 2000 we shouldve drafted Brady so that way we wouldn't have put up with Griese for that long, we would't have signed Jake, and we wouldn't have used draft picks to trade up for Cutler.

Every year there is someone later in the draft that turns out to be better. There is no point of looking back at what might have been. Plus it also depends on how people fit into a specific system.

But having Brady and Ed Reed plus Shanahan equal championship OMGROFL LEEEEEE333333T!!!!!!!!!!!! ::)

[Paladin]

Where did Reed go?

[TheChamp24]

And in 2000 we shouldve drafted Brady so that way we wouldn't have put up with Griese for that long, we would't have signed Jake, and we wouldn't have used draft picks to trade up for Cutler.

Every year there is someone later in the draft that turns out to be better. There is no point of looking back at what might have been. Plus it also depends on how people fit into a specific system.

But having Brady and Ed Reed plus Shanahan equal championship OMGROFL LEEEEEE333333T!!!!!!!!!!!! ::)

ZOMG BRADY AND EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED, NFL WOULD BAN DENVER FOR BEING TOO GOOD!

[KipCorrington25]

you can do this for every team in the league, the draft will always be a crap shoot and players never pan out exactly like they were picked....

[watermock]

Our drafts SUCKED from the SB teams till 06, period. We never would of recovered with Sundquist as GM...why do ya think he's a "consultant" with Florio...

[ElwayMD]

No, drafting for need causes you to sometime take a guy higher than he should be taken while a better player at a different position is available.
49ers drafted for need, taking a QB #1 overall a few years back. How did that turn out?
I'm in the belief you take the best available player.

So by your drafting standards if we in the next draft have a QB that is the best available player and Cutler has had a banner year do you still take him? The answer of course is...no that would be a waste of a pick. You take the [B]best available player[B]at the position you need them at. Right now unless there is a dramatic improvement in the D-line we would be looking for the best available DT in the draft (and that can apply to any other position that we are lacking in).

[TheChamp24]

So by your drafting standards if we in the next draft have a QB that is the best available player and Cutler has had a banner year do you still take him? The answer of course is...no that would be a waste of a pick. You take the [B]best available player[B]at the position you need them at. Right now unless there is a dramatic improvement in the D-line we would be looking for the best available DT in the draft (and that can apply to any other position that we are lacking in).

Of course there are some guidelines, like QB position.
However, we are a team that took Clinton Portis in round 2 when we had Terrell Davis, Mike Anderson and Olandis Gary on our roster. Was that drafting for best available at a position of need? No, that was drafting best available player, period.
You are sort of right in drafting best available at a position of need, but you can't just narrow that down. Thats how we get the busts. Thats why we have so many CB busts, because we drafted best available at a position of need.

[watermock]

Frankly, alot of our picks WERE head scratchers...Just look at them once they left Denver, if they even lasted in the league.

[Smelvin]

You want an ultimate (and very realistic) "What could have been"?

In 2005 the 49ers *could have* taken Braylen Edwards with the first pick of the draft (instead of Alex Smith).

In 2006 the 49ers then *could have* taken Jay Cutler with their first pick (instead of Vernon Davis).

If the Niners right now had Cutler/Edwards instead of A. Smith/VD....they'd be a legitimate contender in the NFC.

Oops.

[crowebomber]

You want an ultimate (and very realistic) "What could have been"?

In 2005 the 49ers *could have* taken Braylen Edwards with the first pick of the draft (instead of Alex Smith).

In 2006 the 49ers then *could have* taken Jay Cutler with their first pick (instead of Vernon Davis).

If the Niners right now had Cutler/Edwards instead of A. Smith/VD....they'd be a legitimate contender in the NFC.

Oops.

Man, I wanted Vernon Davis that year too (or Broderick Bunkley). Just like my wife always says, I'm an idiot.

[Paladin]

There were some hereon who would have sold their soul for VD.

[Kaylore]

One of the biggest criticisms against the Cutler pick was that we should have stayed with Plummer and used the pick on Bunkley . Oops! Ha!

[Bronco Yoda]

I had a dream once that I had a choice between putting my hand in a blender or going back in time to watch the Broncos take Bunkley over Cutler and watch a montage of Cutler's hall of fame career for the Vikings.

I took the blender.

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/JOENEJALJMOD/bunkley_gal_060429.jpg

I really thought the raiders were going to take Cutler. He was right there for the taking....thank god!

[TheChamp24]

There were some hereon who would have sold their soul for VD.

I don't know about that...
http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles/a55_vd.jpg

[azbroncfan]

Raiders could of taken Cutler, C. Johnson/Joe Thomas, to team with McFadden. There are a lot of teams that could play this could of, would of, should of game and turned out to be much better than the Broncos.

[crowebomber]

There were some hereon who would have sold their soul for VD.

I remember making late night and early morning offerings of my soul that I didn't get VD! :holyguac!

[watermock]

I too, WANTED VD. but I didn't think we would reach Cutler either. QB>Reciever...It was obvious Jake wasn't a SB QB.