ANY DAY NOW: Make Your Prediction

[BroncoBuff]

Obama will choose his VP in the next 1-5 days. This poll asks who you PREDICT, not advise or opine. Feel free to do that in text ;D

[BroncoBuff]

He'll go with Joe Biden, BroncoBuff. But Hillary gives him the best chance to win.

Former VA governor and Senatorial candidate Mark Warner is giving the keynote speech ... it seems doubtful that they would've chosen him if his sucessor as governor was speaking right after him as VP nominee.

[Spider]

I am going with west Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin or Jim Webb

[BroncoBuff]

Wow ... speaking of Jim Webb: If Warner wins the Senatorial seat in VA (he's a lock), and Kane stays at governor, that is one POWERFUL Democratic delegation in Virginia. I'm feeling good about Obama winning there.

[Spider]

Wow ... speaking of Jim Webb: If Warner wins the Senatorial seat in VA (he's a lock), and Kane stays at governor, that is one POWERFUL Democratic delegation in Virginia. I'm feeling good about Obama winning there.

so am I , Wyoming , Utah , Texas Sh?taho ..err idaho = filled with idiots will go for McCain

[TheDave]

I wish he would sack up and choose "The Impaler"...

[peacepipe]

On msnbc they are saying that Joe Biden is looking very strong to be the VP canidate.

[spdirty]

hoping its evan bayh. It will probably be hillary though, for political reasons.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

• Nader thinks Obama to pick Clinton (http://www.yahoo.com/s/938433)<dl class="inline"><dt>Saturday VP announcement? (http://www.yahoo.com/s/938271)</dt></dl>

[24champ]

hoping its evan bayh. It will probably be hillary though, for political reasons.

Either Bayh or Kaine...going to go with the later. Kaine has been sucking up to Obama for the last couple months now.

[ak1971]

I wish he would sack up and choose "The Impaler"...

WOOO HOOO!!!!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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"Well, you know, it's just our country is, we believe, the greatest country in the world. It's given us so many great opportunities, and it's just a sense of pride that you have, that you say, "You know what? Our country is the best."- Kobe Bryant


Noice! :thumbsup:

[TexanBob]

CNN had a story yesterday on their website that they quickly yanked naming Evan Bayh as Obama's choice. Although "Obama/Bayh" sounds more like a Republican wish than a Democrat rallying cry.

Joe Biden, in a story this morning, answered reporters staking out at his driveway "I'm not it".

A lot of this could easily be attempts to throw the media off the trail but I think Bayh or Kaine will be the guy. Obama has a death wish if he names either Clinton.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Obama has a death wish if he names either Clinton.

"Either" Clinton?

WTF are you talking about? ???

[Bronco Jamus]

Wow ... speaking of Jim Webb: If Warner wins the Senatorial seat in VA (he's a lock), and Kane stays at governor, that is one POWERFUL Democratic delegation in Virginia. I'm feeling good about Obama winning there.

It's hard to tell in Virginia.

[Arkie]

"Either" Clinton?

WTF are you talking about? ???

LOL

Chelsea.

or maybe Roger?

[ak1971]

how bout George Clinton ...

[24champ]

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Noice! :thumbsup:

Not to get off-topic...

Hope he gets the gold and then gets back to LA to attend some unfinished business...getting LA a title. Plus I hear Bynum looks to be a very good shape.:afro:

Kobe/Bynum 08' is getting my vote.:wave:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Not to get off-topic...

Hope he gets the gold and then gets back to LA to attend some unfinished business...getting LA a title. Plus I hear Bynum looks to be a very good shape.:afro:

Kobe/Bynum 08' is getting my vote.:wave:

+1 :thumbsup:

Drew's rehab is coming along quite nicely, by all accounts.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

LOL

Chelsea.

or maybe Roger?

:laugh:

[TexanBob]

FWIW:

Barack Obama chooses Kathleen Sebelius for Vice President (http://www.tribbleagency.com/?p=1747)

August 18, 2008
We have a credible lead that Barack Obama will be announcing Kathleen Sebelius for Vice President / VP.

Our sources work within an ad agency that is hired by the Obama campaign, and have noted that the vast majority of the discussions there are regarding material logistics in terms of Kathleen on the vice president ticket. Now until this is verified please file it as rumor, however our sources on this are not bad.. and have yet to be proven wrong.

Our source noted “It will get a women on the ticket that shares the same views as Obama” a reference to many of the Hillary supporters..

Then of course we had to do some research.

We held some general opinions prior to this little research project. One of them being that they wouldn’t have multiple domain providers, it becomes a hassle.. so the chances are they used the same registrar.

Obama/Sebelius...Sounds like what the doctor says you suffer from before recommending an enema.

[TexanBob]

I should have guessed. Never underestimate a Democrat's instinct to pander.

[ak1971]

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Obama/Sebelius...Sounds like what the doctor says you suffer from before recommending an enema.

LOL

[Bob]

Obama should choose the most qualified woman available not named Clinton...

If he doesnt -- I see McCain going that route and choosing any qualified woman except Rice due to her connections to Bush and the McSame stuff...

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Never underestimate a Democrat's instinct to pander.

Yeah - the drooling imbecile you voted for never does that.

Terri Schiavo, anyone?

[24champ]

I'd like to see this ticket...

http://s.wsj.net/media/obama_edwards_ssh_20080515125107.jpg

[Crushaholic]

It WON'T be Hillary. She might try to upstage Obama, and he can't have that. A president needs to be seen as more powerful than their vice-president.

[Breaker]

wtf!!!! You forgot Satan on this list :) jk

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

wtf!!!! You forgot Satan on this list :) jk

He didn't forget - Dick Cheney can't run again.

[atomicbloke]

I hope its Bill Richardson.

[Drek]

I hope its Bill Richardson.

Richardson is a more likely sec. of state than VP. He is vastly underrated and so isn't as sellable as an east coaster like Biden or big swing state guy like Bayh.

I'm betting Biden because he's got a longer track record, is more in line with Obama's own stances, and his senate seat isn't likely to be lost when he moves to VP, whereas Indiana and its republican governor would be pushing hard to "steal" Bayh's seat back to the republican party.

I'm not ruling out a dark horse though, namely Colin Powell. In recent weeks there was a report that Powell was going to come out and endorse Obama that suddenly didn't materialize and the democrats didn't incorporate their strongest military figure, Wesley Clark, into the convention. Wouldn't surprise me if it is because they've got Colin Powell in the fold and are just waiting for maximum impact to spring it on everyone.

Biden would make a strong ticket, Powell would make for a dominant win.

[Play2win]

I wonder how chris dodd would be. I don't know a ton about him. but listening to him during the (democrat's) debates, I liked what he had to say. He seems to be a very likable guy, and that might be as important as anything, along with affinity with Obama.

[BroncoInferno]

Biden would make a strong ticket, Powell would make for a dominant win.

I don't see how Powell is a good choice given his complicity in selling the Iraq war, even when he privately had doubts.

I think he'll go with Biden. It's the perfect choice. You want an attack dog as a running mate because he can role up his sleeves and get dirty while the top candidate remains above the fray. Biden is a no nonsense ass-kicker who comes with the facts ready and doesn't put up with any BS. He also has plenty of foreign policy experience, which helps quell one of the criticisms about Obama.

[Beantown Bronco]

Biden came out this morning and clearly stated that it wasn't him.

[Spider]

FWIW:

Barack Obama chooses Kathleen Sebelius for Vice President (http://www.tribbleagency.com/?p=1747)

August 18, 2008


Obama/Sebelius...Sounds like what the doctor says you suffer from before recommending an enema.

LOL ok that was good .......... But dont let it go to your head

[BroncoInferno]

Biden came out this morning and clearly stated that it wasn't him.

We all know how that works. Biden saying it's not him now doesn't mean it won't end up being him.

[Drek]

Biden came out this morning and clearly stated that it wasn't him.

Actually he said he "hadn't heard anything" and "he's not the guy". It was all heavy deflection and the actual VP choice has not yet been even notified, so Biden doesn't know if he's not the choice.

[baja]

"Either" Clinton?

WTF are you talking about? ???

Bill could be VP I think?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Bill could be VP I think?

No.

[Crushaholic]

No.

I don't think it's that simple. This article was written with a Hillary-Bill ticket in mind, but the point is the same. Apparently, it comes down to the meaning of the word "elected"...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/19/AR2006101901572.html

The prospective presidential candidacy of Hillary Rodham Clinton has given rise to plenty of speculation about the notion of Bill Clinton as the nation's first gentleman. But what about another role? How about, say, vice president?

Politically, of course, the idea is a non-starter for all sorts of reasons. But that doesn't stop the parlor games, especially on the Internet. The issue came up last week during a chat on washingtonpost.com: What if Hillary picked Bill as her running mate? A Post reporter rashly dismissed the idea as unconstitutional. But that only proved the dangers of unedited journalism. The answer, it turns out, is not so simple.

A subsequent sampling of opinion from professors of constitutional law, former White House lawyers and even a couple of federal judges reveals a simmering disagreement on whether a president who has already served two terms can be vice president. Some agree with the conclusion that the presidential term limit embedded in the Constitution bars someone such as Clinton from returning to the White House even in the No. 2 slot. Others, though, call that a misreading of the literal language of the law.

As the former president might say, it all depends on the meaning of the word "elected." Under Article II of the Constitution, a person is "eligible to the Office of President" as long as he or she is a natural-born U.S. citizen, at least 35 years old and a resident of the United States for 14 years. The 12th Amendment says "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President."

Okay, so that means if you're not eligible to be president, you're not eligible to be vice president. Makes sense. What would be the point of electing a vice president who can't succeed the president in case of death, incapacity or vacancy?

But then Congress and the states added the 22nd Amendment in 1951 to prevent anyone from following the example of Franklin D. Roosevelt, who won four terms. That's where things get dicey. "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice," the 22nd Amendment says.

On its face, that seems to suggest that Clinton could be vice president because he is only barred from being elected president a third time, not from serving as president. That's the argument of Scott E. Gant, a partner at Boies, Schiller & Flexner in Washington, and Bruce G. Peabody, an assistant professor of political science at Fairleigh Dickinson University in New Jersey. The two wrote a law review article in 1999 called "The Twice and Future President" and reprised the argument this summer in the Christian Science Monitor.

"In preventing individuals from being elected to the presidency more than twice, the amendment does not preclude a former president from again assuming the presidency by means other than election, including succession from the vice presidency," they wrote. "If this view is correct, then Clinton is not 'constitutionally ineligible to the office of president,' and is not barred by the 12th Amendment from being elected vice president."

Others share that opinion. Three former White House lawyers consulted by The Washington Post (two who served President Bush and one who served Clinton) agreed that the amendment would not bar Clinton from the vice presidency. A federal judge, who noted that he has "no views on the matter," said the plain language of the amendment would seem to allow Clinton to "become president through succession."

Kathleen M. Sullivan, director of the Stanford Constitutional Law Center, said the 22nd Amendment, "as I read it, does not preclude a Clinton-Clinton ticket." She added: "Bill, if elected VP, could become president in the event that President Hillary became incapacitated; he just could not run for reelection from that successor post."

Still, that view is not universal. Judge Richard A. Posner of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit said by e-mail that "read literally, the 22nd Amendment does not apply" and therefore Clinton could be vice president. "But one could argue that since the vice president is elected . . . should he take office he would be in effect elected president. Electing a vice president means electing a vice president and contingently electing him as president. That interpretation, though a little bold, would honor the intention behind the 22nd Amendment."

Bruce Ackerman, a constitutional scholar at Yale Law School, also pointed to original intent in addressing the issue in his book this year, "Before the Next Attack: Preserving Civil Liberties in the Age of Terrorism." The amendment, he wrote, "represents a considered judgment by the American People, after Franklin Roosevelt's lengthy stay in the White House, which deserves continuing respect" and "should not be eroded" by a narrow interpretation allowing someone to manipulate his way to a third term.

Eugene Volokh, a law professor at the University of California at Los Angeles who was a clerk for Sandra Day O'Connor when she was on the Supreme Court, focused on the broader meaning of the language in the amendment in reaching the same conclusion. "My tentative answer is that 'eligible' roughly means 'elected,' " he wrote on his Web site, the Volokh Conspiracy, this summer, meaning that if Clinton cannot be elected president, he is no longer eligible at all.

[Spider]

No.

Sure he could if Obama wanted him ........

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I don't think it's that simple.

Yes, it is.

Clinton has been asked this question on several occasions, and he has explained that, according to the amendment, no one who has served two terms as POTUS is eligible to serve as VP.

[Spider]

Yes, it is.

Clinton has been asked this question on several occasions, and he has explained that, according to the amendment, no one who has served two terms as POTUS is eligible to serve as VP.

Not the way I understood it.... He cant campaign or seek to be a VP , but he could be selected

[BroncoBuff]

There is no other choice but Hillary in my view. Hillary supporters are peeling off by the scores ... and after all, it's all about winning. WINNING is all that matters. And with Hillary, he wins.

He's not gonna do it, though ... it's gonna be Biden.

[ElwayMD]

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This running mate will help toughen his ticket up.