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SleepingTiger
08-17-2008, 07:42 PM
I would say Cutler is good, but he hasn't proven himself yet.
Their are some qualities that a QB must have to be successful. The QB's below represent the best at each category and how Cutler should mold his game around

Accuracy: Palmer is extremely accurate. Best deep ball in football. When it comes to throwing the ball, Palmer is the best.

Poise: Brady - nothing rattles this guy

Knowledge: P. Manning - hands down, changes play at the LOS, reads defenses better coaches. His preparation is incredible.

Arm Strength: Palmer - Palmer knows how to use his arm strength to his advantage and that includes touch passes

Mobility: Young - too bad that is about all he can do

Leader: P. Manning - he is no doubt the team leader and can crack the whip even to the superstars around him

Winning: Brady - One word "Gisele". If you're doing Gisele, you're winning alot more than just football games


Flame away

400HZ
08-17-2008, 07:47 PM
He needs to play the game with child-like enthusiasm.

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DenverBroncosJM
08-17-2008, 07:48 PM
After he absorbs all of these qualities then maybe he can take over the world and MAYBE challenge Chuck Norris.....

Your post is a joke right? You are basically saying he should mold his game around 4 other QB's? Im sure if it was that easy we would have a million great starting quaterbacks in the league

Broncosfreak_56
08-17-2008, 07:50 PM
Toughness- Brett Favre.

That One Guy
08-17-2008, 07:53 PM
I think it's even simpler than that. Qualities Cutler should work on:

His ability to throw TDs.

His ability to not throw INTs or imcompletions.

Problem solved

Spider
08-17-2008, 07:53 PM
and then Cutler really needs to sit down and study and become a guidance councilor for B marsh .....but here in the real world Cutler already has all of those qualities and then some

Florida_Bronco
08-17-2008, 07:54 PM
He already has all those skills, they just haven't reached full circle yet.

theAPAOps5
08-17-2008, 07:58 PM
He is not good, he is great. He will emerge this year and prove any remaining doubters that he is a Franchise QB.

Spider
08-17-2008, 08:00 PM
I am just amazed Elway wasnt mentioned ........

watermock
08-17-2008, 08:02 PM
I am just amazed Elway wasnt mentioned ........

One thing...Elway HATED to lose...yet he went to Stanford.

Spider
08-17-2008, 08:05 PM
One thing...Elway HATED to lose...yet he went to Stanford.

and yet he wasnt mention in the opening post ......

PRBronco
08-17-2008, 08:22 PM
Man prettiness: Romo and Brady are today's quarterbacks, because man prettiness is a highly sought after trait in a QB. I was hoping Jay would spend some time this offseason chiseling his cheekbones, and maybe going with spiky hair, or perhaps a fauxhawk?

The MVPlaya
08-17-2008, 08:24 PM
I would say Cutler is good, but he hasn't proven himself yet.
Their are some qualities that a QB must have to be successful. The QB's below represent the best at each category and how Cutler should mold his game around

Accuracy: Palmer is extremely accurate. Best deep ball in football. When it comes to throwing the ball, Palmer is the best.

Poise: Brady - nothing rattles this guy

Knowledge: P. Manning - hands down, changes play at the LOS, reads defenses better coaches. His preparation is incredible.

Arm Strength: Palmer - Palmer knows how to use his arm strength to his advantage and that includes touch passes

Mobility: Young - too bad that is about all he can do

Leader: P. Manning - he is no doubt the team leader and can crack the whip even to the superstars around him

Winning: Brady - One word "Gisele". If you're doing Gisele, you're winning alot more than just football games


Flame away

What the **** kind of post is this ****?

trash...and FAIL.

You just lost all your football credibility.

hambone13
08-17-2008, 08:28 PM
I would say Cutler is good, but he hasn't proven himself yet.
Their are some qualities that a QB must have to be successful. The QB's below represent the best at each category and how Cutler should mold his game around

Accuracy: Palmer is extremely accurate. Best deep ball in football. When it comes to throwing the ball, Palmer is the best.

Poise: Brady - nothing rattles this guy

Knowledge: P. Manning - hands down, changes play at the LOS, reads defenses better coaches. His preparation is incredible.

Arm Strength: Palmer - Palmer knows how to use his arm strength to his advantage and that includes touch passes

Mobility: Young - too bad that is about all he can do

Leader: P. Manning - he is no doubt the team leader and can crack the whip even to the superstars around him

Winning: Brady - One word "Gisele". If you're doing Gisele, you're winning alot more than just football games


Flame away

I think the Tiger needs to go back to sleep.......the rest of us will make sure Cutler NEVER gets the impression that a member of the Mane actually wrote this crap.....

Play2win
08-17-2008, 08:31 PM
What about having the Durability throughout his entire career that Elway had...

hambone13
08-17-2008, 08:31 PM
Man prettiness: Romo and Brady are today's quarterbacks, because man prettiness is a highly sought after trait in a QB. I was hoping Jay would spend some time this offseason chiseling his cheekbones, and maybe going with spiky hair, or perhaps a fauxhawk?

If I was Nalen, my crowning achievement before I officially retired would be to start the tradition of strappin' Jay down at the beginning of every camp and giving him a good 'ole fashion High and Tight. His mop has to go.....the next thing you know, he'll be pulling out of the parking lot in the Mystery Machine with his best friend Scooby.....

Bronx33
08-17-2008, 08:39 PM
He needs to get a cool walk like john elway had.

SleepingTiger
08-17-2008, 08:41 PM
What the **** kind of post is this ****?

trash...and FAIL.

You just lost all your football credibility.

ok mr. credibility, tell me why Cutler shouldn't look at some of these QB's to improve himself. Your so damn smart, tell me what i said was wrong instead of just "trash... and fail"

SleepingTiger
08-17-2008, 08:44 PM
What about having the Durability throughout his entire career that Elway had...

i forgot about that. good point

BroncoMan4ever
08-17-2008, 08:47 PM
my only criticism of Cutler has been on occasion he tries to squeeze the ball into very tight areas and occasionally gets picked off for that, and he has the tendency to sometimes throw off the back foot.
and with that squeezing the ball into tight spaces i forgive that because more often than not he gets the ball to his receiver and he has gotten better with the throwing off the back foot thing.

Cutler doesn;t need to mold his game into any other's in the league. He just needs to keep doing what he is doing, which is growing as a player, learning his reads, keeping his calm, and keep developing into the leader he is showing he can be.

SleepingTiger
08-17-2008, 08:48 PM
I think the Tiger needs to go back to sleep.......the rest of us will make sure Cutler NEVER gets the impression that a member of the Mane actually wrote this crap.....

you're a freakin moron. Cutler is young and still developing his game, he should look at some of these QB's and learn. Ofcourse, somethings like arm strength is something you have or not. Things like poise, football smart and confidence is something you can develop.

hambone13
08-17-2008, 08:49 PM
i forgot about that. good point

Since we're dreaming, why not Montana's Superbowl/Playoff experience, Favre's innate ability to shovel off the most ridiculous "bar toss" for a first down and send me the winning lottery numbers.....

Bronx33
08-17-2008, 08:49 PM
my only criticism of Cutler has been on occasion he tries to squeeze the ball into very tight areas and occasionally gets picked off for that, and he has the tendency to sometimes throw off the back foot.
and with that squeezing the ball into tight spaces i forgive that because more often than not he gets the ball to his receiver and he has gotten better with the throwing off the back foot thing.

Cutler doesn;t need to mold his game into any other's in the league. He just needs to keep doing what he is doing, which is growing as a player, learning his reads, keeping his calm, and keep developing into the leader he is showing he can be.



I agree he needs to play his own game and be his own player but a really cool walk would be sweet. :~ohyah!:

SleepingTiger
08-17-2008, 08:52 PM
my only criticism of Cutler has been on occasion he tries to squeeze the ball into very tight areas and occasionally gets picked off for that, and he has the tendency to sometimes throw off the back foot.
and with that squeezing the ball into tight spaces i forgive that because more often than not he gets the ball to his receiver and he has gotten better with the throwing off the back foot thing.

Cutler doesn;t need to mold his game into any other's in the league. He just needs to keep doing what he is doing, which is growing as a player, learning his reads, keeping his calm, and keep developing into the leader he is showing he can be.

i am not saying he should be manning or brady, but he should learn from these QB's.

i pointed out that these attributes Cutler should develop and here are the QB's that are the best in each category.

SleepingTiger
08-17-2008, 08:54 PM
Since we're dreaming, why not Montana's Superbowl/Playoff experience, Favre's innate ability to shovel off the most ridiculous "bar toss" for a first down and send me the winning lottery numbers.....

so its dreaming to think Cutler can develop some of these attributes?

SleepingTiger
08-17-2008, 08:57 PM
After he absorbs all of these qualities then maybe he can take over the world and MAYBE challenge Chuck Norris.....

Your post is a joke right? You are basically saying he should mold his game around 4 other QB's? Im sure if it was that easy we would have a million great starting quaterbacks in the league

and you're saying he shouldn't? nice...

crazyhorse
08-17-2008, 08:58 PM
Pumpkinhead can definately use a haircut.

theAPAOps5
08-17-2008, 09:01 PM
you're a freakin moron. Cutler is young and still developing his game, he should look at some of these QB's and learn. Ofcourse, somethings like arm strength is something you have or not. Things like poise, football smart and confidence is something you can develop.

He does study these guys. Shanny mentioned that he watches a lot of tape on Brady and MAnning.

hambone13
08-17-2008, 09:05 PM
you're a freakin moron. Cutler is young and still developing his game, he should look at some of these QB's and learn. Ofcourse, somethings like arm strength is something you have or not. Things like poise, football smart and confidence is something you can develop.

Like he doesn't study other great QB's already bright star.....

broncosteven
08-17-2008, 09:06 PM
I would say Cutler is good, but he hasn't proven himself yet.
Their are some qualities that a QB must have to be successful. The QB's below represent the best at each category and how Cutler should mold his game around

Accuracy: Palmer is extremely accurate. Best deep ball in football. When it comes to throwing the ball, Palmer is the best.

Poise: Brady - nothing rattles this guy

Knowledge: P. Manning - hands down, changes play at the LOS, reads defenses better coaches. His preparation is incredible.

Arm Strength: Palmer - Palmer knows how to use his arm strength to his advantage and that includes touch passes

Mobility: Young - too bad that is about all he can do

Leader: P. Manning - he is no doubt the team leader and can crack the whip even to the superstars around him

Winning: Brady - One word "Gisele". If you're doing Gisele, you're winning alot more than just football games


Flame away


Where is this one?

MOXIE: Jake "the handballer" Plummer - Moxie helps cover up suckage.

hambone13
08-17-2008, 09:11 PM
Where is this one?

MOXIE: Jake "the handballer" Plummer - Moxie helps cover up suckage.

Maybe he could get a green Honda Element and in the spirit of Plummer's moxie and name it the Mystery Machine.....angry drivin' might go over a little better with the public if it was funny.....

Dagmar
08-17-2008, 09:27 PM
He is not good, he is great. He will emerge this year and prove any remaining doubters that he is a Franchise QB.

Cutler has doubter? Who are these morons??

broncosteven
08-17-2008, 09:34 PM
Maybe he could get a green Honda Element and in the spirit of Plummer's moxie and name it the Mystery Machine.....angry drivin' might go over a little better with the public if it was funny.....

As long as Jay doesnt grow a jesus beard and quit NFL to fufill his life long ambition to be the handball and fooseball champion of world, or at least finish SECOND place with his brother I am cool with what he does.

Fedaykin
08-17-2008, 09:51 PM
Cutler may not be the best any any one of those categories, but he is one of the top "complete" quarterbacks in the league. He's not a one trick pony like Young (mobility but not a huge passing threat) or Brady/Manning (pocket passers with comparatively little mobility).

SleepingTiger
08-17-2008, 09:52 PM
Like he doesn't study other great QB's already bright star.....

but according to you, he doesn't need to because he is the best and he shouldn't mold his play after these other QB's

hambone13
08-17-2008, 10:16 PM
but according to you, he doesn't need to because he is the best and he shouldn't mold his play after these other QB's

You're right. That's what I'm alluding to.

Do you seriously not understand why people are giving you a hard time in this thread?

DarkHorse30
08-17-2008, 10:26 PM
but according to you, he doesn't need to because he is the best and he shouldn't mold his play after these other QB's

How exactly should a top athlete take HIS skills and then "MOLD" them into somebody else?

"Hey, Jay...too bad you lost the game for us"

"Yeah.....but did you see the way I looked just like Brett Favre when he makes a really dumbass throw to a guy that's triple-covered? I've been working on that in practice......or did you see when I started yelling at my WRs like Brady does when he throws one in the dirt? I think I'm WELL on my way to LOOKING just like THOSE guys"

Oops, I just made this thread longer than it needed to be

BroncoMan4ever
08-17-2008, 11:13 PM
I agree he needs to play his own game and be his own player but a really cool walk would be sweet. :~ohyah!:

i Think BMarsh will work with him on the badass walk. Or Jay will start to whoop some ass and the walk will come naturally.

He just needs someone to fix his hair, his game is fine

Kaylore
08-17-2008, 11:19 PM
so its dreaming to think Cutler can develop some of these attributes?

I think people take issue with you saying he needs to "copy" other players when a lot of things you listed aren't copyable. Arms strength and Vince Young mobility can't be replicated. They're god given. It's also weird to say "be like Palmer". Cutler needs to be a better Cutler and do the things that he can do better.

broncofan2438
08-17-2008, 11:28 PM
This is a STUPID thread

hambone13
08-17-2008, 11:34 PM
I think people take issue with you saying he needs to "copy" other players when a lot of things you listed aren't copyable. Arms strength and Vince Young mobility can't be replicated. They're god given. It's also weird to say "be like Palmer". Cutler needs to be a better Cutler and do the things that he can do better.

Not a bad summary at all Kaylore. I guess to me, this is such a "If I could only Madden" my favorite player concept. Virtual reality belongs there, virtually. I'm excited to see what Jay Cutler does as JC.

The other very annoying thing about the topic and introduction to the thread is that the OP seems to imply that a guy as bright as Cutler doesn't already study the best in the game.

When a guy that works for ESPN like Mark Schlereth, who obviously spent some time with Elway, comes out and says things like: "When we're in the war room @ ESPN watching football on Sundays, when JC is on, the general attention of the room is on him. That guy does things we haven't seen in years, let alone ever. He has all the potential in the world and he plays his own game." That's what makes me think JC is going to be his own player other than my own homer perspective. This cat is a football player. If he were playing in a major media market, he'd be gettin' all the hype.

It's yet to be seen how he's going to handle the real pressure of carrying the team on his shoulders but the tools are ridiculously apparent to anyone who knows football. I just hope he get strapped down by the O-Line and they give him a Buzz cut cause he'd be a LOT faster on those scrambles......

fdf
08-17-2008, 11:35 PM
I would say Cutler is good, but he hasn't proven himself yet.
Their are some qualities that a QB must have to be successful. The QB's below represent the best at each category and how Cutler should mold his game around

Accuracy: Palmer is extremely accurate. Best deep ball in football. When it comes to throwing the ball, Palmer is the best.

Poise: Brady - nothing rattles this guy

Knowledge: P. Manning - hands down, changes play at the LOS, reads defenses better coaches. His preparation is incredible.

Arm Strength: Palmer - Palmer knows how to use his arm strength to his advantage and that includes touch passes

Mobility: Young - too bad that is about all he can do

Leader: P. Manning - he is no doubt the team leader and can crack the whip even to the superstars around him

Winning: Brady - One word "Gisele". If you're doing Gisele, you're winning alot more than just football games


Flame away

I think he should listen to coach, study the play book, study a lot of film, and workout with his receivers. This self-improvement nonsense is silly. In portentous tones, TODAY, I WILL ACT WITH POISE AND BE A LEADER. You get poise by having some talent, working hard to change the talent from potential to real, and then going out and playing football. He's got talent. He's worked hard. And now he's playing football. You become a leader by proving yourself on the field to your teammates. Not by reading a book about how Peyton Manning is a leader.

Spider
08-17-2008, 11:35 PM
ok mr. credibility, tell me why Cutler shouldn't look at some of these QB's to improve himself. Your so damn smart, tell me what i said was wrong instead of just "trash... and fail"

I will field this one .... Cutler is doing just fine on his own , name 1 pass he cant make ?
He reads a D real quick , goes down to check down receivers .....
I havent seen him panic yet , in Fact i saw him launch a 70+ yard bomb to B marsh for a TD , with defender from the cards getting ready to plant him ......
I have seen Cutler run when he has to , but more important he still looks down field before he crosses the LOS
Now lets look at your list .....
Palmer good QB , but he is no Cutler How did Palmer do his first year ? He didnt play , the next year he threw 18 TD and 18 pics , you really want Cutler to do that ?
Brady , well seeing how he had a head coach that cheated ......
P/Manning was a real leader his 1 st year , lead the colts to a 1- 15 season really dont want Cutler doing that ...
Like I say you tell me what Cutler cant do

Rock Chalk
08-17-2008, 11:38 PM
I just want him to get rid of that emo haircut. He looks like a moron.

Played well against Dullass though. 11 for 11 starting out against the "superior" Dullass starters is a great sign.

hambone13
08-17-2008, 11:39 PM
I just want him to get rid of that emo haircut. He looks like a moron.

Played well against Dullass though. 11 for 11 starting out against the "superior" Dullass starters is a great sign.

It was 12 for 12 ;-) before he threw an incompletion but who's counting....

SleepingTiger
08-17-2008, 11:41 PM
I think people take issue with you saying he needs to "copy" other players when a lot of things you listed aren't copyable. Arms strength and Vince Young mobility can't be replicated. They're god given. It's also weird to say "be like Palmer". Cutler needs to be a better Cutler and do the things that he can do better.

I know that and I already stated what you said. Also, you're are telling me no one here on Mane has ever wanted Cutler to "be like Elway". No one said, Cutler needs to develop that touch pass like Elway did. Or be more of a leader like Al Wilson.

I think everyone is taking this the wrong way. In order to be a great QB, he has to improve on some parts of his game. Like reading defenses, poise, touch pass. And i gave examples of the QBs that excel in each catagory. I never said Cutler should be Manning or Brady. Alot of people on Mane gets all pissy if you don't think of Cutler as a god just because he had a good preseason game against the cowboys.

hambone13
08-17-2008, 11:45 PM
I know that and I already stated what you said. Also, you're are telling me no one here on Mane has ever wanted Cutler to "be like Elway". No one said, Cutler needs to develop that touch pass like Elway did. Or be more of a leader like Al Wilson.

I think everyone is taking this the wrong way. In order to be a great QB, he has to improve on some parts of his game. Like reading defenses, poise, touch pass. And i gave examples of the QBs that excel in each catagory. I never said Cutler should be Manning or Brady. Alot of people on Mane gets all pissy if you don't think of Cutler as a god just because he had a good preseason game against the cowboys.

Now you're just being sensitive. I guess you need to find someone to get you a hug....

Irish Stout
08-17-2008, 11:54 PM
I just want him to get rid of that emo haircut. He looks like a moron.

Played well against Dullass though. 11 for 11 starting out against the "superior" Dullass starters is a great sign.

I kinda wonder if there isn't something up with Cutler's forehead... maybe he sold his soul to the devil to be the next John Elway and he now has little devil horns that he's hiding under that flop. Really though, if he keeps going the way he's going and doesn't decide he wants to up and leave Denver, Cutler is going to be a hell of a baller and no one here should give a flying flip if his hair looks like shaggy's.

SleepingTiger
08-17-2008, 11:55 PM
I will field this one .... Cutler is doing just fine on his own , name 1 pass he cant make ?
He reads a D real quick , goes down to check down receivers .....
I havent seen him panic yet , in Fact i saw him launch a 70+ yard bomb to B marsh for a TD , with defender from the cards getting ready to plant him ......
I have seen Cutler run when he has to , but more important he still looks down field before he crosses the LOS
Now lets look at your list .....
Palmer good QB , but he is no Cutler How did Palmer do his first year ? He didnt play , the next year he threw 18 TD and 18 pics , you really want Cutler to do that ?
Brady , well seeing how he had a head coach that cheated ......
P/Manning was a real leader his 1 st year , lead the colts to a 1- 15 season really dont want Cutler doing that ...
Like I say you tell me what Cutler cant do

Spider, this is not a comparison ok? this is not about what Cutler did his 1st yr vs Manning his 1st year. this is about Cutlers future and in order for him to be great, he should and will develop some of the attributes that other great QBs have.


unless you tell me that Cutler is far and beyond all the QBs in the nfl, then I guess Cutler can do anything any other QB can do and do it better.

Here is something simple Cutler can't do, win and win when it counts. No excuses. Elway had some real crappy teams and crappy coaches and he still won.

SleepingTiger
08-17-2008, 11:56 PM
Now you're just being sensitive. I guess you need to find someone to get you a hug....

why, are you offering one?

Kaylore
08-17-2008, 11:56 PM
I just want him to get rid of that emo haircut. He looks like a moron.

Played well against Dullass though. 11 for 11 starting out against the "superior" Dullass starters is a great sign.

Still needs work though. That throw to Stokely was low and behind and he sailed that second big throw to Royal. That was more a great catch than a great throw. I'm not saying he sucked, but he still has some things he can improve on.


And Sleeping Tiger, just chill out.

Spider
08-18-2008, 12:04 AM
Spider, this is not a comparison ok? this is not about what Cutler did his 1st yr vs Manning his 1st year. this is about Cutlers future and in order for him to be great, he should and will develop some of the attributes that other great QBs have.


unless you tell me that Cutler is far and beyond all the QBs in the nfl, then I guess Cutler can do anything any other QB can do and do it better.

Here is something simple Cutler can't do, win and win when it counts. No excuses. Elway had some real crappy teams and crappy coaches and he still won.

Cutler is and can , look dude it isnt about copying who's who , this is about Cutler and his mojo , Cutler got this far by doing what he does Elway lost 3 super bowls remember that , Elway had his problems when he first came onto the scene , I just pointed out the weakness of the other QB's you want Cutler to emulate ......Cutler will be the measuring stick for years to come

hambone13
08-18-2008, 12:19 AM
why, are you offering one?

Believe me, if I was offering, I wouldn't have said, ".....find someone.....".

Dos Rios
08-18-2008, 12:24 AM
Ingenuity: McGyver. He could get out of anything by using a paper clip and some belly lint.

Vulcan Death Grip: Dr. Spock. Totally learnable.

Field Presence: Patton. Few people realize he wasn't always a general. He actually had to work his way up through the ranks.

Lasers Out of His Eyes: Cyclops. Cause that would just rule.

fdf
08-18-2008, 06:16 AM
Ingenuity: McGyver. He could get out of anything by using a paper clip and some belly lint.

Vulcan Death Grip: Dr. Spock. Totally learnable.

Field Presence: Patton. Few people realize he wasn't always a general. He actually had to work his way up through the ranks.

Lasers Out of His Eyes: Cyclops. Cause that would just rule.

LOL.

extralife
08-18-2008, 07:07 AM
The greatest QBs are not robots. They don't need to mold each specific part of their game after someone else. They have their own style and mindset that their team embodies. When you say "Elway," "Montana," "Favre," Unitas," or "Brady" people know exactly what you mean.

Man-Goblin
08-18-2008, 08:15 AM
As long as we're being nitpicky, how about fine tuning his play action fakes or working on his hard count?

SleepingTiger
08-18-2008, 08:25 AM
Believe me, if I was offering, I wouldn't have said, ".....find someone.....".

since you think i needed one and was concerned enough to let me know, i figured you will give me one too

SleepingTiger
08-18-2008, 08:32 AM
Still needs work though. That throw to Stokely was low and behind and he sailed that second big throw to Royal. That was more a great catch than a great throw. I'm not saying he sucked, but he still has some things he can improve on.


And Sleeping Tiger, just chill out.

im cool, wish i can say the same for the flamers on this board

fdf
08-18-2008, 10:36 AM
I just want him to get rid of that emo haircut. He looks like a moron.

LOL. It's the one thing about him I don't like. But if he keeps playing like he did the first half against Dallas, maybe I'll start thinking it looks cool.

Garcia Bronco
08-18-2008, 10:41 AM
Well. Thus far, Jay Cutler has been the best of the starting NFL QB's in the pre-season. Good for him

mr007
08-18-2008, 12:26 PM
This should get the most meaningless thread on the board award. This is the type of crap you'd see on the Broncos homepage forums, the exact reason I left there.

Am I the only one who thinks Cutler should continue to rock his hair?

OABB
08-18-2008, 01:32 PM
I nominate sleeping tiger for the captain obvious award.

sleeping tiger:

"Cutler should work on getting better by trying to get better."

Sleeping tiger reminds me of that booger guy in that 80's john cusack classic "Better off dead".

'Lane'(cusack) looking down the k2 mountain in all his ski gear:
" I don't know how I am going to ski down this mountain?"

booger(sleeping tiger):
"just go really really fast and when you see something, turn."

dbfan21
08-18-2008, 02:32 PM
Jay's hair doesn't bother me as much as his business suits. His coat doesn't fit him at all. In fact, it looks like he grabbed a coat out of Clady's locker and wore it to the post-game press conference.

You don't believe me? Check out the video footage of the game on nfl.com. At the end, you'll see Jay lookin like Tom Hanks' character in the movie, Big, after he wished to Zoltar that he's be small again. :giggle:

Just playin, Jay. No offense. I still love you man!!!

ZONA
08-18-2008, 02:40 PM
All jokes aside, what Cutler needs to continue to do, as I'm sure he already does it, is study the GAME. Not so much as study other QB's. Each QB has different throwing motions, nuances, etc.

The reason Manning and Brady are so damn good is they studied the game. Watched hours upon hours of games tapes, defensive set ups, coverages, even tapes on individual defenders to learn their strengths and weakness. In addition to that, they know their own players very well, they have their own playbooks down solid.

You obviously need to be well coached but as long as Jay takes learning the game into his own hands and becomes a tape junky, he'll have a chance at long term success and reaching his goals. I say that becuase obviously a huge part of that is the success of the players around you. I don't care how good you are as a QB, you need good players around you to win.

broncosteven
08-18-2008, 02:47 PM
Vulcan Death Grip: Dr. Spock. Totally learnable.

Field Presence: Patton. Few people realize he wasn't always a general. He actually had to work his way up through the ranks.


I would recommend the Captain Kirk Karate chop as his 1st move before jumping up to the Vulcan pinch.

It is a gateway move that also impresses the "ladies"

BroncosinDC
08-18-2008, 03:05 PM
This should get the most meaningless thread on the board award. This is the type of crap you'd see on the Broncos homepage forums, the exact reason I left there.

Am I the only one who thinks Cutler should continue to rock his hair?

Elway had a mullet...I think Jay needs more hair. But I am in the post military phase of my life where I despise haircuts.

Jay Cutler is a smart, talented, disciplined athlete. If you look at how he has handled his medical condition it gives you some insight into his abilities to sit down and get the job done. The mistakes he makes are the ones young QB's make (didn't Elway line up under the guard?), or the ones great ones make. For example Elway and Favre had some of the best arms in the game, and they lead in INTs...why? Because they are so confident they can thread the needle like they have on many occasions it just doesn't always work. So its a trade off sometimes it will get you a perfectly thrown ball for a TD, sometimes it will be a ball thrown almost perfectly for a pick. I think as time goes on and he knows his players and those in the league better his percentage will increase.

Leader...he is the strong silent type. I like his personality, he is confident but to the point. He makes a one liner here and there, and the guys seem to respect him. I think he has the child like energy but in a less drama queen/look at me mom way.

Pocket Poise...after last years cluster**** jerry rigged OL with anything even a little better he can surely handle it.

What do I want to see him improve on? Winning, pump fakes, hiding his intentions with the pass, selling a fake, the tiny little things (besides winning thats a big one). Touch as well, not beaming the 5 yd route with a cannon. I used to do it to my little brother and it was funny to make him fall down if you tossed it really hard, however he should reserve throwing way to hard for catching babies for Marshall to eat and not in the games.

Kaylore
08-18-2008, 04:46 PM
Did anyone else think of that old cartoon Bravestar from the 80's when they read this thread? "Eyes of the hawk, ears of the wolf, strength of the bear..."

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Eldorado
08-18-2008, 05:03 PM
no..

TheReverend
08-18-2008, 05:08 PM
Did anyone else think of that old cartoon Bravestar from the 80's when they read this thread? "Eyes of the hawk, ears of the wolf, strength of the bear..."

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Ugh... couldn't you at least have referenced Thundercats when Lionel has to beat them all at their strengths before taking on Mumra?!?!

Jay vs Peyton in an IQ test

Jay vs Vick (at the county pen) in a race

Jay vs Brady in a supermodel ****ing contest

TheReverend
08-18-2008, 05:08 PM
Also, on behalf of Bronco nation, I nominate myself to take Jay's place in the last event

Kaylore
08-18-2008, 05:19 PM
Jay Cutler: Accuracy of the Manning, Eyes of the Brady, Legs of the Young, Arm of the Favre, Hair of the Beatles.

broncosteven
08-18-2008, 05:32 PM
Jay Cutler: Accuracy of the Manning, Eyes of the Brady, Legs of the Young, Arm of the Favre, Hair of the Beatles.

Broodie Crowle: Gay of Boob, Skinnyness of Broncosteven, arm of Paris Hilton, legs of Chicken.

Is this how it works?

SleepingTiger
08-18-2008, 05:52 PM
obvious or not, my first broncos thread got 3 pages long...

broncosteven
08-18-2008, 05:53 PM
obvious or not, my first broncos thread got 3 pages long...

what was it about?

SleepingTiger
08-18-2008, 06:11 PM
what was it about?

something about Cutler saying he wanted to be Brett Farve and retire only to comeback :)

DarkHorse30
08-18-2008, 11:45 PM
Jay Cutler: Accuracy of the Manning, Eyes of the Brady, Legs of the Young, Arm of the Favre, Hair of the Beatles.

hair of the beatles. priceless:rofl: