Fox News discusses McCain's Affair [Archive] - The Orange Mane

Pseudofool

08-14-2008, 03:07 PM

Here's a segment where McCain's affair is contrasted with Edwards; it takes about two minutes to get to the good stuff.
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http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1003837486

McCain admitting that he had made many mistakes in his first marriage. In his autobiography, McCain wrote, "My marriage's collapse was attributable to my own selfishness and immaturity. The blame was entirely mine." He has also said that he was dating Cindy for nine months while still "cohabiting" with his first wife. The Los Angeles Times recently revealed that McCain had not been fully truthful on the timeline for his divorce and remarriage.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/94827/page/1

Perot doesn't remember it that way. "After he came home, he walked with a limp, she [Carol McCain] walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona [Cindy McCain, his current wife] and the rest is history."
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5559242&page=1

While McCain was married to his first wife, who was disabled from a car accident, he was "aggressively courting a 25-year-old woman who was as beautiful as she was rich," according to a New York Times colunmist's account of the 1970s incident that predated McCain's election to the Senate.
Looks pretty damning to me. If the journalists were willing to dig on this story, I'm sure they could find more.

Here's a good article that discusses McCain's issues with his first wife, and how the Reagans were upset with McCain for how he treated her: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,6546861.story

Rohirrim

08-14-2008, 03:20 PM

Rigs11

08-14-2008, 03:36 PM

And yet hannity and limbaugh are sqwaking on this on a daily basis.yet no word on mccane who is the one that is actually a candidate.

Bronco Bob

08-14-2008, 05:47 PM

And yet hannity and limbaugh are sqwaking on this on a daily basis.yet no word on mccane who is the one that is actually a candidate.

Then again ABC, CBS, CNN, and NBC also did their fair share of
squawking about Edwards and never said a word about McCain's
affair either.

orinjkrush

08-14-2008, 06:39 PM

i think these elites often think "the rules" don't apply to them.
doesn't matter if its D or R.

maybe we should rewrite "the rules" to be more polygamist. If you can afford them.

baja

08-14-2008, 06:59 PM

I don't think I can make it to November without puking...

Rigs11

08-14-2008, 07:44 PM

Then again ABC, CBS, CNN, and NBC also did their fair share of
squawking about Edwards and never said a word about McCain's
affair either.

Damn liberal media;D

Breaker

08-14-2008, 07:47 PM

Let's see: You come home from the POW camp and your wife sticks by you and nurses you back to health. Then, she gets in a car wreck and is crippled so you start bopping a rich 25 year old blonde and dump the crippled wife for the new bimbo.

Sounds like Republican "values" to me. Ha!

Edwards wife was dying with cancer and yet you sit idly by and pretend it never happend. Why dont you man up for a change and criticize both of them.

Pseudofool

08-14-2008, 07:49 PM

Edwards wife was dying with cancer and yet you sit idly by and pretend it never happend. Why dont you man up for a change and criticize both of them.
Is this your criticism of McCain, I presume....? Pretty scathing.:spit:

Breaker

08-14-2008, 07:54 PM

Is this your criticism of McCain, I presume....? Pretty scathing.:spit:

You and your dems should be equally critical of them both, just as I have been you sackless wonder.

TexanBob

08-14-2008, 07:58 PM

Bronco_Beerslug

08-14-2008, 08:05 PM

Wait. I thought Fox News was in the hip pocket of the Republican Party? At least that's what all the lefties claim. So, how come they are bringing this issue up when the other news departments are keeping quiet about it?

While adultery is not an activity to be condoned, it does seem to be a stretch to claim moral equivalence to a 30-year-old event and one that was just a year or two ago, particularly by a party that routinely offers us serial adulterers whom they routinely excuse for their "private life".

It's one thing to say you made a mistake in judgement 30 years ago and haven't done it again since as opposed to making a mistake while you are running for president or continuing to do it while in office.I get it, qualify the "mistake" as time eroded and it's a better "mistake" than the recent one. .............................Genius!!

Rohirrim

08-14-2008, 08:21 PM

Edwards wife was dying with cancer and yet you sit idly by and pretend it never happend. Why dont you man up for a change and criticize both of them.

Hmmm. I thought this was the McCain "stab your wife in the back" thread? Anyway, I'm no fan of Edwards. I always thought of him as a smarmy phony. Besides, as you might have noticed, the media were going 24/7 on the Edwards thing for days. Keeping true to form, they barely mention the McFlip betrayal. In fact, I haven't heard anybody follow this story up in the media.

Rohirrim

08-14-2008, 08:25 PM

Wait. I thought Fox News was in the hip pocket of the Republican Party? At least that's what all the lefties claim. So, how come they are bringing this issue up when the other news departments are keeping quiet about it?

While adultery is not an activity to be condoned, it does seem to be a stretch to claim moral equivalence to a 30-year-old event and one that was just a year or two ago, particularly by a party that routinely offers us serial adulterers whom they routinely excuse for their "private life".

It's one thing to say you made a mistake in judgement 30 years ago and haven't done it again since as opposed to making a mistake while you are running for president or continuing to do it while in office.

So your saying McCain's betrayal of his crippled wife is not an indicator of the character of the man? Gee, you Repugs always seem to go all weak in the knees about his heroic stint in the Hanoi Hilton, and that happened 40 years ago. So his heroics of forty years ago count, but his failure of character of thirty years ago doesn't count? Just trying to figure out what the ground rules are here, ya know? :-*

Spider

08-14-2008, 08:27 PM

Hannity is such an asshole , he was grasping , he led Combs right in with how can we trust a guy that cheated on his wife , total ****ing idiot , thats why InSanity harped on the 5½ years of torture line ....... But combs shot that down .Ole **** stick Hannity did more damage to Mccain then Obama ever could .......

peacepipe

08-14-2008, 08:29 PM

You and your dems should be equally critical of them both, just as I have been you sackless wonder.The media is running 24/7 with the edwards affair, now when McCain catches some heat for the same thing he's getting unfairly treated!?

Dudeskey

08-14-2008, 08:48 PM

Then again ABC, CBS, CNN, and NBC also did their fair share of
squawking about Edwards and never said a word about McCain's
affair either.

Thats that liberal bias for ya...™

gunns

08-14-2008, 09:17 PM

Wait. I thought Fox News was in the hip pocket of the Republican Party? At least that's what all the lefties claim. So, how come they are bringing this issue up when the other news departments are keeping quiet about it?

While adultery is not an activity to be condoned, it does seem to be a stretch to claim moral equivalence to a 30-year-old event and one that was just a year or two ago, particularly by a party that routinely offers us serial adulterers whom they routinely excuse for their "private life".

It's one thing to say you made a mistake in judgement 30 years ago and haven't done it again since as opposed to making a mistake while you are running for president or continuing to do it while in office.

Hilarious! That really made sense. Let me see if I get your moral equivalence. McCain is bad, but not as bad as Clinton, who's not as bad as Edward.....as time goes by....

Rohirrim

08-14-2008, 10:09 PM

Hilarious! That really made sense. Let me see if I get your moral equivalence. McCain is bad, but not as bad as Clinton, who's not as bad as Edward.....as time goes by....

Hitler is up for sainthood now. :welcome:

Rigs11

08-14-2008, 10:41 PM

Wait. I thought Fox News was in the hip pocket of the Republican Party? At least that's what all the lefties claim. So, how come they are bringing this issue up when the other news departments are keeping quiet about it?

While adultery is not an activity to be condoned, it does seem to be a stretch to claim moral equivalence to a 30-year-old event and one that was just a year or two ago, particularly by a party that routinely offers us serial adulterers whom they routinely excuse for their "private life".

It's one thing to say you made a mistake in judgement 30 years ago and haven't done it again since as opposed to making a mistake while you are running for president or continuing to do it while in office.
Ahh that's the spin. So your mistakes are less offensive the older they are? Man I have never seen a party collapse so badly and come up with such horrendous horse****.

TexanBob

08-14-2008, 10:53 PM

So your saying McCain's betrayal of his crippled wife is not an indicator of the character of the man?

I never said that. But, hopefully, there are things in your distant past that you learned were wrong and would never do again. That's different from someone who still runs around on his wife, whether crippled or not.

Bronco_Beerslug

08-15-2008, 06:27 AM

I never said that. But, hopefully, there are things in your distant past that you learned were wrong and would never do again. That's different from someone who still runs around on his wife, whether crippled or not.Ah, so now you know that Edwards is STILL cheating on his wife.......................................beautif ul!

You may be right, I doubt McCain even still has a set at his age.

Pseudofool

08-15-2008, 12:48 PM

What's scary is McCain and Edwards were about the same age when they both had their affairs.

Fox News' token liberal might have brought up the issue but as others have mentioned Hannity was searching for anyway to alleviate McCain of the same treatment as Edwards. What's being a POW have to do with cheating and leaving your disfigured wife?

Rohirrim

08-15-2008, 01:11 PM

I never said that. But, hopefully, there are things in your distant past that you learned were wrong and would never do again. That's different from someone who still runs around on his wife, whether crippled or not.

Some people learn, some don't. When judging presidential candidates, character is important. I never trusted Edwards. Didn't vote for him. I apply the same value system to McCain. His loyalty and principles seem to be tied to whatever serves his needs at the moment. That kind of character should not run the Oval Office.

Tombstone RJ

08-15-2008, 03:08 PM

Here's a segment where McCain's affair is contrasted with Edwards; it takes about two minutes to get to the good stuff.
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http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1003837486

http://www.newsweek.com/id/94827/page/1

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5559242&page=1

Here's a good article that discusses McCain's issues with his first wife, and how the Reagans were upset with McCain for how he treated her: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,6546861.story

There is a few differences between McCain and Edwards situation. First, McCain's affair did not happen when he was a candidate for the presidency. Secondly, McCain never denied the affair happened. Thirdly McCain has never been a conservative republican in that, he's never pushed "family values" onto his constituancy.

Hannity's big argument (rightly or wrongly) is that because Edwards is a Dem, the media is giving him a pass on covering this affair, however, if this was a GOP candidate, the media would be all over the affair. Hannity assumes that because the GOP preaches conservativism and family values, the media likes to point out the GOPs hypocrisy whenever it can.

Ok, fine.

However, people have to remember that McCain is not your typical GOP. He's rocked the boat way too many times in the republican party, and he's in fact, having a hard time getting support from groups like Focus on the Family because he is too liberal in his views.

Also, the irony here is that Edwards was a Dem running on conservative issues at the same time he was having an affair as his wife was fighting cancer.

Rohirrim

08-15-2008, 03:19 PM

There is a few differences between McCain and Edwards situation. First, McCain's affair did not happen when he was a candidate for the presidency. Secondly, McCain never denied the affair happened. Thirdly McCain has never been a conservative republican in that, he's never pushed "family values" onto his constituancy.

Hannity's big argument (rightly or wrongly) is that because Edwards is a Dem, the media is giving him a pass on covering this affair, however, if this was a GOP candidate, the media would be all over the affair. Hannity assumes that because the GOP preaches conservativism and family values, the media likes to point out the GOPs hypocrisy whenever it can.

Ok, fine.

However, people have to remember that McCain is not your typical GOP. He's rocked the boat way too many times in the republican party, and he's in fact, having a hard time getting support from groups like Focus on the Family because he is too liberal in his views.

Also, the irony here is that Edwards was a Dem running on conservative issues at the same time he was having an affair as his wife was fighting cancer.

As usual, Hannity has his head up his ass. I didn't turn on the TV for three days because it was 24 hour Edwards affair blah, blah, blah.

ghwk

08-15-2008, 03:38 PM

TexanBob

08-15-2008, 03:45 PM

I apply the same value system to McCain. His loyalty and principles seem to be tied to whatever serves his needs at the moment. That kind of character should not run the Oval Office.

On this, we actually agree. That's why I won't be voting for McCain. I don't know of any principle for which I could not see McCain selling out.

Spider

08-15-2008, 03:55 PM

There is a few differences between McCain and Edwards situation. First, McCain's affair did not happen when he was a candidate for the presidency. Oh .....well why didnt everyone say so , this makes it all ok ........

Secondly, McCain never denied the affair happened. His time line is all ****ed up , but since he had an affair after he was a POW and before he ran for president , it is all ok ....... Thirdly McCain has never been a conservative republican in that, he's never pushed "family values" onto his constituancy.
This is true , why McCain only went along with Bush a measly 95% of the time
Hannity's big argument (rightly or wrongly) is that because Edwards is a Dem, the media is giving him a pass on covering this affair, however, if this was a GOP candidate, the media would be all over the affair. Hannity assumes that because the GOP preaches conservativism and family values, the media likes to point out the GOPs hypocrisy whenever it can. yeah the media ........they need to understand that it is ok for McCain to leave his wife cause she was crippled up in a car wreck , after all it was after he was a POW and before he ran for president ,everyone knows this is the best time to have an affair

Ok, fine. Okie dokie then

However, people have to remember that McCain is not your typical GOP. He's rocked the boat way too many times in the republican party, and he's in fact, having a hard time getting support from groups like Focus on the Family because he is too liberal in his views. Yeah that 5% of buckin Bush was bucking the system way too many times ......McCain is a regular damn hippie

Also, the irony here is that Edwards was a Dem running on conservative issues at the same time he was having an affair as his wife was fighting cancer.Yeah as you and me both agree , it is all in the timing ....McCains wife nursed him back to health, ,and bam as soon as the careless b**** displayed her driving skills and got disfigured for life , any man would have jumped ship , after all who wants a woman that is ugly and cant driive to boot ......... so in conclusion we both agree , McCain is a regular freaking saint , and Edwards is pure scum

ghwk

08-15-2008, 04:04 PM

What was it Chris Rock said? "A man's only as faithful as his options..."

Spider

08-15-2008, 04:29 PM

As long as both parties keep the people divided they win, in truth there is an awful lot of common ground among the blues and reds. If we ever came together and called on the parties for true accountability we'd actually take the country back and scare the crap out of them.
Problem is we the people , we have different issues , for example I am a father of 6 kids and have 2 teenagers( 1 showed up yesterday) not even related to me living in my house , Privacy is an illusion in my house , So my needs are alot different ,Like healthcare , fuel cost , etc .Abortion and flagburning are way down on my list , Tax cuts are good m but Corporate America needs to pony up also ...........

peacepipe

08-15-2008, 05:09 PM

TexanBob

08-15-2008, 05:44 PM

I've seen nothing that states that edwards is still cheating on his wife.

Even though Edwards was caught with his mistress in a fancy hotel just weeks ago? Which is the only reason he went public with his whole confession? Color you naive.

If the National Enquirer hadn't caught him with the goods, Edwards would still be lying about this today. His "99% honest" routine is total bull****.

Tombstone RJ

08-15-2008, 06:58 PM

Oh .....well why didnt everyone say so , this makes it all ok ........

His time line is all ****ed up , but since he had an affair after he was a POW and before he ran for president , it is all ok .......
This is true , why McCain only went along with Bush a measly 95% of the time
yeah the media ........they need to understand that it is ok for McCain to leave his wife cause she was crippled up in a car wreck , after all it was after he was a POW and before he ran for president ,everyone knows this is the best time to have an affair

Okie dokie then

Yeah that 5% of buckin Bush was bucking the system way too many times ......McCain is a regular damn hippie

Yeah as you and me both agree , it is all in the timing ....McCains wife nursed him back to health, ,and bam as soon as the careless b**** displayed her driving skills and got disfigured for life , any man would have jumped ship , after all who wants a woman that is ugly and cant driive to boot ......... so in conclusion we both agree , McCain is a regular freaking saint , and Edwards is pure scum

Calm down Beavis.

Jeeez!

I'm not bashing either Edwards nor McCain, I'm just pointing out some differences between their circumstances and the fact that Hannity is essentially making a big deal out of nothing.

I could really care less about the whole Edwards thing. Really, who cares? It's just a way for Hannity to get attention.

Spider

08-15-2008, 07:29 PM

Calm down Beavis.

Jeeez!

I'm not bashing either Edwards nor McCain, I'm just pointing out some differences between their circumstances and the fact that Hannity is essentially making a big deal out of nothing.

I could really care less about the whole Edwards thing. Really, who cares? It's just a way for Hannity to get attention.

;D geez i agree with you and still get told to calm down .........I am so mellow right now , medication , just got back from the E.R. , looks like Cah damn near got his wish .....

gunns

08-15-2008, 09:04 PM

There is a few differences between McCain and Edwards situation. First, McCain's affair did not happen when he was a candidate for the presidency. Secondly, McCain never denied the affair happened. Thirdly McCain has never been a conservative republican in that, he's never pushed "family values" onto his constituancy.

Hannity's big argument (rightly or wrongly) is that because Edwards is a Dem, the media is giving him a pass on covering this affair, however, if this was a GOP candidate, the media would be all over the affair. Hannity assumes that because the GOP preaches conservativism and family values, the media likes to point out the GOPs hypocrisy whenever it can.

Ok, fine.

However, people have to remember that McCain is not your typical GOP. He's rocked the boat way too many times in the republican party, and he's in fact, having a hard time getting support from groups like Focus on the Family because he is too liberal in his views.

Also, the irony here is that Edwards was a Dem running on conservative issues at the same time he was having an affair as his wife was fighting cancer.

Doesn't matter when they did it. And the unfortunate thing is when all this garbage is drug out and drug on and on the person that is hurt the worse by it is the wife it is commited against....again. While I agree it's a character issue, it's also a private issue.

McCain's biggest problem is he didn't rock the boat enough. He's too closely tied to some of Bush's policies and that's what this election is all about....getting as far away from those policies as possible.