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Paladin
08-14-2008, 12:01 AM
may be signing with the Pats. Reggie Rivers noted that on the sports part of the news tonight.

Lynch and Harrison might be a tandem Cutler could throw against.....

If this was reported elsewhere, forget I said anything.....

Popps
08-14-2008, 12:13 AM
Figured this might be coming.

I'd hate to root for the Pats, but I'll be pulling for John no matter where he lands, provided it's not Oakland, KC or SD.

Dagmar
08-14-2008, 12:24 AM
That sucks, but good luck to the consummate professional

BroncosMT
08-14-2008, 12:26 AM
John Clayton said that if he passed his physical it was imminent. He also state that he would only play in certain packages.......isn't that what we offered??

Irish Stout
08-14-2008, 12:30 AM
The difference is we went 7-9 last year and the pats went ... well you know the story. John Lynch wants a number two ring before he retires. He realized he wasn't going to play much here and didn't have the faith that our team could make such a huge turnaround.

Good for John, I hope he's happy. I will feel bad for him if the Broncos beat the Pats in a playoff game (we have their number). Just not too bad.

Arkansas Bronco
08-14-2008, 12:30 AM
We handled a hall of famer with much more class the green bay. The staff knew he wasnt our man and cut him GB most likely traded off the better qb just to make a point (which may bite everyone from VP to HC in the ass).

Irish Stout
08-14-2008, 12:39 AM
We handled a hall of famer with much more class the green bay. The staff knew he wasnt our man and cut him GB most likely traded off the better qb just to make a point (which may bite everyone from VP to HC in the ass).

Thats absolutely true! Even as bad as our team may be our organization always seems to be top notch. BS is not really tolerated in the Shanahan and Bowlen regime. Things are dealt with quickly and efficiently and you get the respect you've earned. At least thats the way it appears to me and I hope thats the way it appeared to John.

SouthStndJunkie
08-14-2008, 12:41 AM
If he takes a similar role in NE as he had here, I will lose a little respect for him for bailing on his team.

I know many here disagree with that, but that is my opinion.

Arkansas Bronco
08-14-2008, 12:52 AM
If he takes a similar role in NE as he had here, I will lose a little respect for him for bailing on his team.

I know many here disagree with that, but that is my opinion.

He takes the role of Favre and tho the game has gone buy he still wants to play and if we wouldnt give it to him im glad the way we dealt with it no matter the team he signed with we gave him the chance.

broncofan2438
08-14-2008, 01:32 AM
Yea I could see his reasoning here, although it might be cool to see him again this year

SureShot
08-14-2008, 01:40 AM
If he takes a similar role in NE as he had here, I will lose a little respect for him for bailing on his team.

I know many here disagree with that, but that is my opinion.

yep

Killericon
08-14-2008, 02:22 AM
Lynch and Harrison might be a tandem Cutler could throw against.....


I sure as hell hope so.

Atwater His Ass
08-14-2008, 03:15 AM
Good for John. I can only applaud how we handled this situation and gave him an opportunity to win another ring.

Hogan11
08-14-2008, 03:38 AM
Lynch and Harrison might be a tandem Cutler could throw against.....

Lynch and Harrison might be a tandem anyone should be able to throw against

Broncos4Life
08-14-2008, 03:43 AM
Lynch and Harrison might be a tandem anyone should be able to throw against

No disrespect to Lynch, but he better hope he has CB help.

Dendave
08-14-2008, 09:38 AM
Signed with Pats

telluride
08-14-2008, 09:40 AM
He's dead to me now.

socalorado
08-14-2008, 09:41 AM
PATS SIGN LYNCH (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/08/14/pats-sign-lynch/)

Posted by Mike Florio on August 14, 2008, 10:00 a.m. EDT
A league source tells us that the Patriots have agreed to terms with safety John Lynch.
Lynch, a nine-time Pro Bowler, could assume the role that the team was exploring for Tank Williams, who recently landed on injured reserve with a knee injury. Williams had been practicing at linebacker.
At this stage of his career, Lynch probably is a better fit playing closer to the line of scrimmage. Besides, the team already has a Lynch-style safety in Rodney Harrison.

maher_tyler
08-14-2008, 09:41 AM
Signed with Pats

link?

bowtown
08-14-2008, 09:47 AM
link?

When things are underlined on the internet, it's pretty safe to assume that they are links.

maher_tyler
08-14-2008, 09:48 AM
PATS SIGN LYNCH (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/08/14/pats-sign-lynch/)

Posted by Mike Florio on August 14, 2008, 10:00 a.m. EDT
A league source tells us that the Patriots have agreed to terms with safety John Lynch.
Lynch, a nine-time Pro Bowler, could assume the role that the team was exploring for Tank Williams, who recently landed on injured reserve with a knee injury. Williams had been practicing at linebacker.
At this stage of his career, Lynch probably is a better fit playing closer to the line of scrimmage. Besides, the team already has a Lynch-style safety in Rodney Harrison.

Just glad he didn't go to a division rival...i guess we know where we'll be throwing the ball when we play them!!

worm
08-14-2008, 09:50 AM
When things are underlined on the internet, it's pretty safe to assume that they are links.

or a rick roll...

Rulon Velvet Jones
08-14-2008, 09:55 AM
I'm with SouthStand...if he goes to NE just to assume the same role, there is a right to be pissed at his actions.

Kaylore
08-14-2008, 09:56 AM
I think that's pretty lame. It was never about playing time it was about faith in his team.

SouthStndJunkie
08-14-2008, 09:59 AM
I'm with SouthStand...if he goes to NE just to assume the same role, there is a right to be pissed at his actions.

Yep, he basically walked out on the Broncos and took a similar role in NE.

If another player pulled a stunt like that, he would be vilified....and rightfully so.

Triplelefthook
08-14-2008, 10:02 AM
I think that's pretty lame. It was never about playing time it was about faith in his team.

agreed. let's be serious, is there any doubt that the pats are going to use lynch in the exact same situational manner that we were going to use him? he'll get the same amount of playing time he is just on a better team with a better chance to win. why did he go thru the whole performance of coming "back to the broncos" after considering retirement then why even bother showing up to camp in the first place?

DenverBrit
08-14-2008, 10:03 AM
N E wants Lynch to explain how Denver keeps beating them with inferior talent.
I'm not sure anyone has that information. ;D

TheReverend
08-14-2008, 10:03 AM
Levy tampering charges asap.

HEAV
08-14-2008, 10:04 AM
Playing for a winner(with serious Super Bowl shot) verse playing for a team fighting for playoff spot, made playing two downs more appealing.

I wish Lynch luck... I really wish he would have stayed in Denver.

Broncofan_H
08-14-2008, 10:06 AM
Wouldn't it be funny if we had a better season this year? I read someone above say they would feel sorry for him if we beat them in the playoffs... NO WAY!

I've lost a lot of respect for Lynch over this. He QUIT on his teammates to go to a "better" team.

Not cool, if you ask me.

crawdad
08-14-2008, 10:08 AM
If he takes a similar role in NE as he had here, I will lose a little respect for him for bailing on his team.

I know many here disagree with that, but that is my opinion.

Money won't buy team loyalty anymore. I wish John well. He probably will be a HOFer.

NE will now have a little insight into how to beat the Broncos. But it won't help. We have their number

SouthStndJunkie
08-14-2008, 10:12 AM
I might be a little more sympathetic to Lynch if he had never won a Super Bowl and desperately wanted a shot at a ring before he retired....but he already has a ring.

The dude quit on his team in training camp. Not to retire, but to go play for another team in a similar role.

There is no other way to put it. It sucks, but his 4 years in Denver are tarnished.

Thats ok....Shanny was happy to see him walk.

rovolution
08-14-2008, 10:12 AM
Wouldn't it be funny if we had a better season this year? I read someone above say they would feel sorry for him if we beat them in the playoffs... NO WAY!

I've lost a lot of respect for Lynch over this. He QUIT on his teammates to go to a "better" team.

Not cool, if you ask me.

agreed.

if Lynch had left early on in the offseason, i would have no problem with this but something like this leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

He complained about a lack of playing time and now hes going to NE where he will do the same thing he would have done here...be a situational player

I would have had more respect for him had he just said i want to leave Denver because i do not think this team is ready to compete at the moment

scttgrd
08-14-2008, 10:15 AM
Bush league move IMO. Even if he didn't quit on this team, it looks like it. I think he lost a measure of respect with this move. Now I hope he retires a Buc, seems like he was just putting in time here. Good luck John.

telluride
08-14-2008, 10:15 AM
Just another hypocritical athlete. Lynch has been proven to be a liar. This is a shoddy moment for him.

socalorado
08-14-2008, 10:33 AM
Just another hypocritical athlete. Lynch has been proven to be a liar. This is a shoddy moment for him.

Easy, big fella. We dont need a relapse. Let it go........

:rofl:

Tombstone RJ
08-14-2008, 10:39 AM
I think people are missing an important point about why NE signed Lynch: Tank Williams is out due to injury creating a spot for Lynch. Also, I think the linked said they'll use Lynch more as a LBer.

One thing Belichick is known for is bringing in FAs and putting them in the right spot to be productive. He's much better at it than Shanahan.

Why all the hate on Lynch? Really folks, it sounds like alot of sour grapes on our part.

dbfan4life
08-14-2008, 10:43 AM
BMarsh just needs to grow up already...I mean the whole 21's no Champ thing, taking advantage of Cutlers' hospitality by charging Jay to stay ay his own house, the McDonalds thing.................


oh wait, wrong thread.


Down with Lynch!!!!

SouthStndJunkie
08-14-2008, 10:46 AM
I think people are missing an important point about why NE signed Lynch: Tank Williams is out due to injury creating a spot for Lynch. Also, I think the linked said they'll use Lynch more as a LBer.

One thing Belichick is known for is bringing in FAs and putting them in the right spot to be productive. He's much better at it than Shanahan.

Why all the hate on Lynch? Really folks, it sounds like alot of sour grapes on our part.

He quit on the Broncos because he said he did not want to play part-time.

He signed with New England....to play part-time.

His only value is in the box these days, so of course NE is going to use him like a LB. Pretty much the same as we would have this year. I would not want him covering the equipment manager on passing downs.

Beantown Bronco
08-14-2008, 10:53 AM
I think people are missing an important point about why NE signed Lynch: Tank Williams is out due to injury creating a spot for Lynch..

Ummmmm, nobody is missing why NE signed Lynch. We don't care WHY they signed him. What we care about is why Lynch would say that he was leaving SOLELY because he didn't like the role he would be fitting here by only seeing the field on running downs, only to go to a team that is planning on playing him the same exact way.


Also, I think the linked said they'll use Lynch more as a LBer.

That was pretty much his role here as well. 90+% of the time, he was playing in the box, and that percentage was going to do nothing but go up in Slowik's scheme.

One thing Belichick is known for is bringing in FAs and putting them in the right spot to be productive. He's much better at it than Shanahan.

That's subjective.

Why all the hate on Lynch? Really folks, it sounds like alot of sour grapes on our part.

If his name was Eddie Kennison, I'm sure your opinion would change. Just because we all liked the guy when he was here doesn't change the fact that he is doing something that could be argued to be comparable. Many here liked the guy so much that they ignored the fact that his tackling was becoming pretty weak at times last year.

boltaneer
08-14-2008, 11:31 AM
I think the real story is that Lynch quickly found out that no team had any interest in bringing him in as a starter. And then he found out how little any other teams were even interested in him as a situational player? I saw the rumor about the Browns but that was it.

Northman
08-14-2008, 11:32 AM
Way to man up there John. Im not really that pissed about it but it does give him a black mark on his character. Should of just come clean that he would think he would have a better shot at a ring elsewhere. But he was a mercenary for hire when we got him so this is no different. He will still likely retire a Buc anway.

Northman
08-14-2008, 11:35 AM
I think the real story is that Lynch quickly found out that no team had any interest in bringing him in as a starter. And then he found out how little any other teams were even interested in him as a situational player? I saw the rumor about the Browns but that was it.

If that was the case then he should of just retired if starting meant that much too him. He had already toyed with the idea of retirement so i dont think it was really about starting for him. He just wanted to get another ring which is fine, but at least be honest about it.

Hotrod
08-14-2008, 11:39 AM
God damn it. Now I've got a sharpe jersey thats too ****ing small and a Lynch jersey I cant wear until ATLEAST after he retires. Hotrod needs a new jersey ****! Poll forth coming.

broncofan2438
08-14-2008, 11:43 AM
Just bought a BMarsh jersey online

Atlas
08-14-2008, 11:45 AM
So all that **** Lynch said about playing was BS. He went to the Pats for basically the same thing he ws getting in Denver.

**** the guy. I hope Denver torches him repeatedly. I hope the NFL torches him repeatedly.

broncofan7
08-14-2008, 11:52 AM
Lynch was done in 2006--and look at the past history of SB losers--besides SEA--all have struggled to even make the playoffs---Brady has gotten by all of these years without missing too many games--this is the year their luck runs out----I hope that Lynch has joined a 6-10 outfit.....

Paladin
08-14-2008, 11:54 AM
When things are underlined on the internet, it's pretty safe to assume that they are links.

Hilarious!

Captain O strikes again!!!!

Paladin
08-14-2008, 12:02 PM
Too bad the Broncos couldn't get some compensation for him.....

In many ways, it's not much different than if a programmer wanted to go to another company because he/she/it did not think the product was going to sell. Even if it meant the same money for another programming job.

Having said that, screw him......

Natedogg
08-14-2008, 12:11 PM
Bad taste for sure.

Bladerunner
08-14-2008, 12:15 PM
I'm with Anubis, I'm not pissed, but I am disappointed that Lynch wasn't more honest about his reasons for leaving, although I'm also pretty sure he overestimated his value as a player for this season. I definitely won't be hoping he gets another ring.

Beantown Bronco
08-14-2008, 12:16 PM
Lynch needs to go to the Dwight Schrute School of Loyalty:

Would I ever leave this company? Look, I'm all about loyalty. In fact, I feel like part of what I'm being paid for here is my loyalty. But if there were somewhere else that valued loyalty more highly, I'm going wherever they value loyalty the most.

boltaneer
08-14-2008, 12:35 PM
If that was the case then he should of just retired if starting meant that much too him. He had already toyed with the idea of retirement so i dont think it was really about starting for him. He just wanted to get another ring which is fine, but at least be honest about it.

I thought the events that took place back in Feb/March was a little strange. He wanted to bolt back then but at the last second he was talked into coming back to the Broncos and even giving up a roster bonus (?) to do so.

Then he's not happy again but this time he does bail for real.

Though both sides have been very polite about the whole situation perhaps more went down behind the scenes than we really know.

NFLBRONCO
08-14-2008, 01:01 PM
When he left the first thing I thought of is

He realizes we are a long way from being good. If we were Elam anf Lynch would have stayed. I'm surprised by fans players do this all the time. You act like Lynch would vault us to SB level or something lol. I'm glad he left we need to go younger anyways.

BlaK-Argentina
08-14-2008, 01:03 PM
I wasn't happy when he left the team at the middle of camp and I'm definitely not happy about this. I lost a lot of respect for John and I hope Marshall, Royal and Scheffler torch his ass repeatedly when we play them.

Northman
08-14-2008, 01:33 PM
When he left the first thing I thought of is

He realizes we are a long way from being good. If we were Elam anf Lynch would have stayed. I'm surprised by fans players do this all the time. You act like Lynch would vault us to SB level or something lol. I'm glad he left we need to go younger anyways.


I do have to agree that he needed to go. I was getting tired of watching him get beat like a stepchild out on that field the last couple of years.

Beantown Bronco
08-14-2008, 01:38 PM
PATS SIGN LYNCH (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/08/14/pats-sign-lynch/)

Posted by Mike Florio on August 14, 2008, 10:00 a.m. EDT
A league source tells us that the Patriots have agreed to terms with safety John Lynch.
Lynch, a nine-time Pro Bowler, could assume the role that the team was exploring for Tank Williams, who recently landed on injured reserve with a knee injury. Williams had been practicing at linebacker.
At this stage of his career, Lynch probably is a better fit playing closer to the line of scrimmage. Besides, the team already has a Lynch-style safety in Rodney Harrison.

PFT may have jumped the gun a bit on this one. Belichick just confirmed in his daily press conference that they have NOT agreed to terms with Lynch.

BroncoMan4ever
08-14-2008, 02:16 PM
well i am predicting a lot of passes going at the Safeties in the game against New England. Sorry to say but that game is looking even more winnable if they sign Lynch

Tombstone RJ
08-14-2008, 02:32 PM
If Lynch ends up with the Pats, it's no big deal IMHO. Fact is, he left because he was not good enough to start on the Broncos. So, he severed ties with the team and is currently seeking a team that will employ him as a starting safety.

Ok, fine.

Regardless of whether he becomes the starting safety or a situational player for another team is irrelevant. I'd rather he left the Broncos on his own terms, rather than the alternative which could very well have been getting cut by the Broncos.

It's a win, win situation for both sides. Lynch gets a chance to continue his career, on his terms with another team, and the Broncos are not forced to make a tuff decision come trim down time of the 53 man roster.

I mean really, how would it look if the Broncos cut Lynch? Would that make any of us feel better about the situation?

DontBeMessin
08-14-2008, 03:35 PM
I can't believe that some of you are sad he left? He sucked about as bad as Stuart Schweigert!! Except Lynch could tackle!!

Lynch has no support and will get torched!!

CBF1
08-14-2008, 08:13 PM
Lynch has signed with the Pats per ESPN

Bronx33
08-14-2008, 08:18 PM
Will he get to play every down in NE?

bronco militia
08-14-2008, 08:19 PM
Will he get to play every down in NE?

no



**** him

Bronx33
08-14-2008, 08:24 PM
Well he gets a free pay check and maybe a free ring ala jr seau, i say isolate him in coverage and pass on the b**** till he crys.

wolf754life
08-14-2008, 08:28 PM
lynch is a punk ass bitch who quit on the team, just like jake plummer, ihop, daryl carter, ian gold, deltha oneal, willie middlbust, simeon rice, all scumbags!

Atwater His Ass
08-14-2008, 08:28 PM
I do have to agree that he needed to go. I was getting tired of watching him get beat like a stepchild out on that field the last couple of years.

Look up some of Med's posts. He was beat 0 times where he had deep coverage responsibilities last season and I believe it was the third season in a row he's accomplished this.

SoDak Bronco
08-14-2008, 08:35 PM
Lynch just lost a lot of fans here in my house...I root for the guy, say he is stand up, class act, and then he jumps ship to a worse situation (in regards to PT)...Wow, I would LOVE just FREAKIN LOVE to meet and beat the aholes in the playoffs....SHANNY DOMINATES HOODY

Atwater His Ass
08-14-2008, 08:41 PM
What is so hard to understand about this? The guy is nearing the end of his career and wants a shot at another ring. Playing time isn't really what's important here. You're all living under a rock if you think Denver has a better chance than NE to win the SB this year.

I'm not sure why you'd expect a guy in Lynch's situation to stick it out and at best, maybe win a single playoff game or more likely not be in contention. This isn't rocket science. Lynch wasn't a lifetime Bronco. This is the reality of the league and I'm surprised you all haven't caught onto that by now.

telluride
08-14-2008, 08:48 PM
What is so hard to understand about this? The guy is nearing the end of his career and wants a shot at another ring. Playing time isn't really what's important here. You're all living under a rock if you think Denver has a better chance than NE to win the SB this year.

I'm not sure why you'd expect a guy in Lynch's situation to stick it out and at best, maybe win a single playoff game or more likely not be in contention. This isn't rocket science. Lynch wasn't a lifetime Bronco. This is the reality of the league and I'm surprised you all haven't caught onto that by now.

I think most people are disappointed/pissed at the lies Lynch told. Had he simply said before training camp that he did not have faith in the team's prospects and wanted to go to a team he thought was stronger, that would have been fine. But to delay a decision, allow the team to believe they had his services for this year (and thus fail to make any personnel moves), go into training camp and then suddenly quit while insisting that the quitting was based only on his desire to be a full time starter -- well, all that is damn shoddy.

Lynch is a liar, plain and simple. That's what people are pissed about.

rovolution
08-14-2008, 08:52 PM
What is so hard to understand about this? The guy is nearing the end of his career and wants a shot at another ring. Playing time isn't really what's important here. You're all living under a rock if you think Denver has a better chance than NE to win the SB this year.

I'm not sure why you'd expect a guy in Lynch's situation to stick it out and at best, maybe win a single playoff game or more likely not be in contention. This isn't rocket science. Lynch wasn't a lifetime Bronco. This is the reality of the league and I'm surprised you all haven't caught onto that by now.


i think what people are saying is that we would have had more respect for John's decision to leave Denver had he just said "Hey, i dont think the Broncos are in a position to win a championship and since I am in the twilight of my career, i would like to go to a situation where i can get another championship, and i just feel it is not here"

something like that and the majority of the Bronco nation would have respected him and wished him all the best.


Broncos fans are not stupid for the most part. I think we all realize that if the Broncos just manage to field a competative team this season, most of us would be pretty happy with that (and last years team was far from competative).


At this stage of his career, John is not interested in being competative. He wants to contend, and I think most of us would agree that the Broncos are not going to the SuperBowl for atleast the next 1-2 seasons.

Atwater His Ass
08-14-2008, 08:54 PM
I think most people are disappointed/pissed at the lies Lynch told. Had he simply said before training camp that he did not have faith in the team's prospects and wanted to go to a team he thought was stronger, that would have been fine.


I highly doubt it. People would still be up in arms over the situation.

And perhaps at the time he really did feel that way and later changed his mind and got an opportunity to play at NE. Who konws, I guess I don't really care. It goes both ways as far as playing time. We already made moves at safety and since we weren't counting on Lynch to be a full-time player anyway, this really didn't hurt us in any significant way.

Besides, this move will probably all but ensure his HoF inductance. Being an ESPN darling already, and now moving to NE, hell, couldn't ask for a better setup to get those media votes into the Hall.

rovolution
08-14-2008, 08:57 PM
I highly doubt it. People would still be up in arms over the situation.

And perhaps at the time he really did feel that way and later changed his mind and got an opportunity to play at NE. Who konws, I guess I don't really care. It goes both ways as far as playing time. We already made moves at safety and since we weren't counting on Lynch to be a full-time player anyway, this really didn't hurt us in any significant way.

Lynch's veteran savvy would have great against those bootlegs the Texans did to us last weekend. Our entire defense bit on those, and a veteran with Lynch's savvy and experience would have been able to help in that regard. Situational play.

Atwater His Ass
08-14-2008, 09:02 PM
Lynch's veteran savvy would have great against those bootlegs the Texans did to us last weekend. Our entire defense bit on those, and a veteran with Lynch's savvy and experience would have been able to help in that regard. Situational play.

We have veterans in the secondary already that should be able to fill this role more than adequately.

If people want to be upset over how Lynch left, fine, it doesn't really matter to me.

However, his presence won't be missed much on the field imo. This year or next year we were more than likely moving on from Lynch anyway, so I don't see this as much of a blow.

SoDak Bronco
08-14-2008, 09:08 PM
Lynch Is A Liar

TallyBronco
08-14-2008, 09:33 PM
You guys need to take a few deep breaths. One day guys like this are the best around, the next they're complete tards. For some of you, speaking should be done in moderation or not at all.

wolf754life
08-14-2008, 09:49 PM
lynch better not come back to denver, i'll slap his whore mouth off!

Dukes
08-14-2008, 09:56 PM
Another jersey out of rotation. I'm down to Bailey and Cutler now.

broncosteven
08-14-2008, 09:57 PM
I just hope the Prima Donna makes the cut and plays vs us.

Will be fun watching Cutler make him wish he did retire.

Man this move really pisses me off.

broncosteven
08-14-2008, 09:59 PM
Man this guy really chaps my ass.

From what I hear, He was going to retire, Bowlen talks him out of it, he gets upset about his role, wants out, gets released like he wants, then goes to NE where he will join an already aging D and probably get the same amount of playing time only faces an easier schedule on a better team.

Wes Mantooth
08-14-2008, 10:57 PM
Did the broncs actually release him or was he still under contract here?

That One Guy
08-14-2008, 11:27 PM
It's sad that only the Charger fan got it right while everyone else overreacts. The guy overestimated himself and thought he could start elsewhere and when he realized he was the only one who thought that, he wasn't ready for retirement yet so he joined on. Does anyone actually expect the guy to come crawling back to Denver and admit that he isn't as good as he thought he was? Just let it stay at a peaceful breakup, it's not that serious and he wasn't simply bailing.

Beantown Bronco
08-15-2008, 08:37 AM
Lynch's veteran savvy would have great against those bootlegs the Texans did to us last weekend. Our entire defense bit on those, and a veteran with Lynch's savvy and experience would have been able to help in that regard. Situational play.

Did you even watch the game against the Texans LAST YEAR? Same thing happened. His veteran savvy and experience found him in the middle of the wash just like everyone else.

He's another year older.
His hitting and tackling were slipping.
The coaches didn't think he could beat out the current Broncos stock of safeties, which is hardly impressive to begin with.
He apparently lied about why he left.

and

He was instrumental in the signing of Simeon Rice.

Yikes.

Beantown Bronco
08-15-2008, 08:45 AM
Look up some of Med's posts. He was beat 0 times where he had deep coverage responsibilities last season and I believe it was the third season in a row he's accomplished this.

I have to laugh every time I see this stat thrown around. It's a myth - plain and simple. Why, you ask? Because Lynch had a whole THREE passes defensed last season. FIVE the year before. EIGHT each of the two seasons before that. The guy practically never plays deep coverage, and when he does, he is either helping out Champ who never gets thrown on, the QB simply misses his receiver, or the receiver drops it. His "success rate" has little to do with his actual influence on the play.

Let's use common sense here and not some flawed statistic drummed up by some guy who uses questionable formulas. The guy is turning 37 years old. Unless he's on more drugs than Romo was back in the day, there is simply no way he still has the speed to cover these 23 year old burners deep. "Veteran savvy" can only take you so far in deep coverage.

s0phr0syne
08-15-2008, 10:48 AM
I don't like that he's gone and playing for the Pats, who coincidentally (or not) happen to have a Super Bowl caliber team.

But, if I had played in the league for 16 years, and was declining, I'd want to play for Bill Belichick too. Say what you want about the guy, but Belichick knows how to use his personnel on defense. If nothing else, it'd be a fantastic experience to just see what he as a coach could do with a player like Lynch. I think it'll be fun to watch this year, although I'll still be disappointed. As a player with a legacy intact, I think it's cool that he'll be ending his career playing as a cog in the mad scientist's defensive scheme--playing in the 3-4 in a hybrid type position.

loborugger
08-15-2008, 02:06 PM
I have to laugh every time I see this stat thrown around. It's a myth - plain and simple. Why, you ask? Because Lynch had a whole THREE passes defensed last season. FIVE the year before. EIGHT each of the two seasons before that. The guy practically never plays deep coverage, and when he does, he is either helping out Champ who never gets thrown on, the QB simply misses his receiver, or the receiver drops it. His "success rate" has little to do with his actual influence on the play.

Let's use common sense here and not some flawed statistic drummed up by some guy who uses questionable formulas. The guy is turning 37 years old. Unless he's on more drugs than Romo was back in the day, there is simply no way he still has the speed to cover these 23 year old burners deep. "Veteran savvy" can only take you so far in deep coverage.

1. I didnt think about it that way, but your point is well made as I seem to remember Ian Gold covering WRs down the field.

2. Well, he will be in the same backfield as Rodney HGH Harrison.

To repeat what a lot of other folks said - this sucks. If the guy starts playing a lot of downs well this year, well, lets just say a lot of older Pats seem to be able to continue playing at a high level long after one might think they shouldnt be able to.

Atlas
08-15-2008, 05:34 PM
Denver is going to have a good team this year and when they go up to Foxborough and beat the Pats I hope to see that look of regretin Lynch's eyes for the betrayal he has displayed.

Ray Finkle
08-15-2008, 05:36 PM
Denver is going to have a good team this year and when they go up to Foxborough and beat the Pats I hope to see that look of regretin Lynch's eyes for the betrayal he has displayed.

did you write something....all I see is boobs....thank you.

Popps
08-15-2008, 06:21 PM
Lynch was a consummate pro, loved the city and the team and couldn't have represented us any better. He also played his ass off for us.

The guy wanted to be a starter, probably realized he wasn't going to and figured if he was going to be a spot-player, he'd do it somewhere else. Older players often make those kinds of moves.

To hold that aginst him after what he's done for this team is just silly. We should be so lucky to have another player of his caliber come along.

Like I said, when guys like John or Al Wilson leave... it's usually somewhere mid-the following season that people really start seeing what they meant to the defense.

400HZ
08-15-2008, 06:30 PM
What sucks is that Lynch would have been right back into his every-down role in Denver a couple weeks into the season. McCree...that guy is bad.

Atlas
08-15-2008, 06:55 PM
did you write something....all I see is boobs....thank you.

Look close because those boobs are knocking John Lynch out of the playoffs!!!