Mike and Mike in the Morning-Broncos Prediction

[Maverick7]

Today Mike and Mike in the Morning started their "Two-A- Days" where they answer five questions and make season predicitions for two teams each day up until the start of the Regular Season. Today, they focused on Denver and Oakland. Greenberg predicted Denver to go 8-8 and Golic predicted the Broncos to go 7-9. Overall, they both were Pro-Shanahan and said that Bowlen is doing the right thing by sticking by Shanny, and that they would not make a change even if the Broncos struggle this season. They said that Shanny is a good coach and deserves to ride the highs and lows of the franchise. Also, they said our defense still can't stop the run and our pass rush is still very weak. Also, they said with Marshall missing the beginning of the season, it will hurt them a lot and Cutler might have a tough time finding other weapons in the offense. Basically, they feel that the team will pretty much play the same way they did last year- which is medicore. Greenberg did say that if Denver can "stay afloat" till November they could be okay because the second half of the schedule is pretty weak. We shall see.

[broncofan2438]

These guys bug the heck outta me. They can be very annoying, i dont even watch that damn show in the moring anymore. Greenberg needs to hit the weights and Golic.....who did he play for again?

[BMarsh615]

I think our offense is going to be much better than they were last year... Even without Marshall, we shouldnt struggle to score 20 points like we did a lot last year.

[theAPAOps5]

They are pretty much right on based on where the team stands right now. Usually they undercut the Broncos so I am surprised.

[Paladin]

Them that can't, predict.....

Really, these guys and most other people out there have no idea what is going to happen any more than our esteemed members heeon.....

[Doggcow]

These are the guys that said Seattle would win the world series this year. Pretty sure they're ****ing morons.

[Dudeskey]

Every year, there's someone that gets bent out of shape over something these ****ers say on the radio... Take what these people say with a huge ass grain of salt

[Rock Chalk]

Why get mad at their prediction? On the outside, what exactly has Denver done this offseason that would lead most non-homer analysts to believe Denver is so much better than last year? Seriously. The run defense is still a huge ?. We have no legitimate MLB, DJ at WLB should be an improvement but Boss at SLB isn't exactly a top notch talent.

Offensively we should be better but if we arent even halfway better at stopping the run it WILL be another long season. What they said was not too far off the mark to be honest. 7-9 or 8-8 is a very REAL possibility, even with the "weak" schedule (which I find humorous considering the terms "no one knows whats going to happen" gets tossed around when discussing the suckiness of the Broncos state of the union yet you dont know with the other teams either).

We could very well end up winning the division too. Or we could come in last place. But 7-9 to 10-6 is a pretty good estimate of where we will be IMO.

[Hogan11]

and Golic.....who did he play for again?

Nutra System.

Really, I don't understand why anyone pays attention to any of these guys at all.

[NFLBRONCO]

I think 8-8 is more likely then 12-4 but, its up to the team itself to prove it otherwise.

DL weak
LB weak
S ok but, needs young stud
CB Great

QB- Great
RB- Good
WR- BM Great Stokley Good Royal Good but, rookie D Jax good but, not sold on him the rest yawn
OL- Average- Young it will take time to gel we need more help here.
TE- Great
K/P- Who knows

Being weak on lines is a big problem esp with not enough legit weapons. A crappy DL will not bring a 12 win team.

While we take these things with a grain of salt what they said, wasn't wrong at this point we will see as season goes along. Besides being a homer or not after last two years if 08 team is a better team or not they need to show signs on the field of actual growth and consistancy.

[broncocalijohn]

well i can rule out that the Mike and Mike combo is not Wolf and Telluride.

[Bronx33]

well i can rule out that the Mike and Mike combo is not Wolf and Telluride.

Hilarious!

[MechanicalBull]

I don't listen to them cause I find them very very annoying but I actually think that is a pretty spot on assesment of Denver as of right now. The offense should be better but the defense doesn't look all that great right now.

[watermock]

We looked like ants on that tiny puter screen, Texans looked better bigger ants tho.

[Paladin]

Gawd. We got more "expert" analyses that says the Broncos are weak everywhere, just like the freaking papers and "writers" say...

Why can't we just give the team time to gel, and let's see what happens. None of the predicitons made or the analyses made on this forum will mean a darn thing by the end of the year. Who the h3ll wants to analize and predict everything?

[socalorado]

Nutra System.

Really, I don't understand why anyone pays attention to any of these guys at all.

Yeah, hey, can the OM just ban any and all threads that have anything to do with Mike and Mike?
These 2 clowns are the worst sports morons ever. And that has absolutely nothing to do with their prediction. Who cares what these 2 no talent @$$ clowns think?
Its bad enough i have to mute these 2 idiots on the 1st game of the season.

Of course i guess i coulda just not gone onto this thread, but then that wouldnt be any fun, huh?

[LongDongJohnson]

who cares what the radio people say.

mike shanahan said were not missing the playoffs and thats final. gotta trust coach shanatan

[Popps]

I don't listen to those bozos, but their predictions sound fair enough. 8-8ish is about what even most homers expect out of this team. It's not as if we brought in a ton of weapons to make anyone think otherwise. We made a couple of nice moves, a couple draft picks and maybe a young guy or two will step up. If we avoid injuries, we could be hanging around come playoff time.

That's all the more reason Marshall's suspension hurts us. We're a borderline team that will probably be in a lot of close games. Two division rivals right off the bat, and I wonder if two AFC/Divisional wins (or losses) will look just a little important come week 13 or so?

That said, it's spilled milk. Time for the staff to focus on putting someone out there on defense that can beat the guy he's lined up against.

[SportinOne]

It's not just ESPN, it's EVERYONE. Anyone who can say with a straight face that they know for sure where all 32 teams will end up within a 2 win/loss swing is kidding themselves. NO ONE KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN!! I get so sick of the people on the radio thumbing through the schedules team by team and saying, "Okay, i got them winning in St. Louis, losing in Chicago." No, you don't know. You have no idea.

I don't have very high expectations for this year. That said, i'm more excited for the NFL season in general than i have been for a very long time. If the Broncos happen to do great this year then, HEY, bonus!

But yes, very excited for the season to start. Just (and i mean JUST five minutes ago) bought a Samsung LN32A450 HDTV. 32" of inexpensive greatness for my small downtown Madison apartment. Ordered Directv complete with HD DVR and NFL Sunday Ticket a couple days ago.

If you've been debating on whether or not to take the plunge on your "setup" this season... DO IT! Put those stimulus checks to good use!

[theAPAOps5]

well i can rule out that the Mike and Mike combo is not Wolf and Telluride.

You have to take Tellurides name out of the Wolf equation. He has really performed a 180 this offseason and isn't all doom and gloom.

Wolf is the only troll now.

[tnedator]

Today Mike and Mike in the Morning started their "Two-A- Days" where they answer five questions and make season predicitions for two teams each day up until the start of the Regular Season. Today, they focused on Denver and Oakland. Greenberg predicted Denver to go 8-8 and Golic predicted the Broncos to go 7-9. Overall, they both were Pro-Shanahan and said that Bowlen is doing the right thing by sticking by Shanny, and that they would not make a change even if the Broncos struggle this season. They said that Shanny is a good coach and deserves to ride the highs and lows of the franchise. Also, they said our defense still can't stop the run and our pass rush is still very weak. Also, they said with Marshall missing the beginning of the season, it will hurt them a lot and Cutler might have a tough time finding other weapons in the offense. Basically, they feel that the team will pretty much play the same way they did last year- which is medicore. Greenberg did say that if Denver can "stay afloat" till November they could be okay because the second half of the schedule is pretty weak. We shall see.

Thanks for posting.

They were just about to talk about the Broncos as I was getting into the parking lot at work, but I had a meeting and couldn't hang out in the car.

[azbroncfan]

If one of them predicted that Denver would win the SB someone would start a thread praising them and saying they are the best announcers. Their assement looks pretty realistic and if you don't think it is it is just someone else's opinion that is no more accurate than some other fans.

[TotallyScrewed]

Why get mad at their prediction? On the outside, what exactly has Denver done this offseason that would lead most non-homer analysts to believe Denver is so much better than last year? Seriously. The run defense is still a huge ?. We have no legitimate MLB, DJ at WLB should be an improvement but Boss at SLB isn't exactly a top notch talent.

Offensively we should be better but if we arent even halfway better at stopping the run it WILL be another long season. What they said was not too far off the mark to be honest. 7-9 or 8-8 is a very REAL possibility, even with the "weak" schedule (which I find humorous considering the terms "no one knows whats going to happen" gets tossed around when discussing the suckiness of the Broncos state of the union yet you dont know with the other teams either).

We could very well end up winning the division too. Or we could come in last place. But 7-9 to 10-6 is a pretty good estimate of where we will be IMO.


If Denver can't stop the run, it puts them, including a higher powered pass offense into a world of hurt. It's basically a reverse of what worked for Denver during the Terrell Davis years.

Denver would jump out early with TD for TD's and tell their mediocre defense to play aggresive against the pass...telling teams to try to keep up by running the ball. Denver doesn't have the horses to do that now, especially since Torain is out for much of the season.

[KS Bronco]

did they predict the giants winning the super bowl, too? especially after starting 0-2?
i love listening to predictions, but take them with a grain of salt...

[DivineLegion]

Why get mad at their prediction? On the outside, what exactly has Denver done this offseason that would lead most non-homer analysts to believe Denver is so much better than last year? Seriously. The run defense is still a huge ?. We have no legitimate MLB, DJ at WLB should be an improvement but Boss at SLB isn't exactly a top notch talent.

Offensively we should be better but if we arent even halfway better at stopping the run it WILL be another long season. What they said was not too far off the mark to be honest. 7-9 or 8-8 is a very REAL possibility, even with the "weak" schedule (which I find humorous considering the terms "no one knows whats going to happen" gets tossed around when discussing the suckiness of the Broncos state of the union yet you dont know with the other teams either).

We could very well end up winning the division too. Or we could come in last place. But 7-9 to 10-6 is a pretty good estimate of where we will be IMO.

I think they are under estimating Jay Cutlers options with Marshall out. Darrell Jackson is an experienced receiver who has proven he can be a serviceable number 1 in the league. Eddie Royal showed me against the Texans that he wasn't the drafted solely for his speed and return skills, the kid runs great routes and has amazing body control. His catch on our TD drive for 8 yards where he turned his shoulders to isolate the DB was flawless execution for a rookie WR, and clutch with his QB under pressure. Then we have a smorguse board of TEs with three guys that could be starters for other NFL teams, Tony Shefflers biggest flaw is his blocking (the kid still needs lots of work), but Nate Jackson (if he can stay healthy) is starting to prove to Bronco nation why Mike traded for him and has let this kid hang around for so long he has great hands, and runs solid routes. We know why Daniel Graham is here but this is his second season in the Broncos system and should be more productive as a receiving option. On top of all of that we have one of the best slot receivers in the game with Brandon Stokley, so Jay is going to have options while Brandons out, and hes going to develop chemistry with all of his other options making him a better all around QB.

The interior of the line isn't going to be as much of a problem for the Broncos as Defensive end if Dwane Roberston can stay healthy. Kenny Petterson had some good penetration and Marcus Thomas was taking a lot of double teams vs the Texans but still managed to make plays. Our number one concern on defense is Linebacker, for a team that has traditionally totted some of the better linebacking cores in the league we have really slacked off here. I'm still going to reserve judgment on Boss Bailey but I think hes definitely an upgrade over Nate Webster on the strong side. Nate Webster in the middle is not something i'm looking forward to his instincts are terrible, and hes playing a position where instincts make or break a player.

I agree that 7-9 and 8-8 are definitely possibilities for the outcome of the season because I don't see this defense being better than 22nd in the league early on. However I do think as the season progresses so will our young Defensive line, which should in turn make up for some of our shoddy linebacker play...but it wont happen soon enough to make this team a legitimate playoff contender. Our offense with the weapons we have at various positions and the versatility of our skill players on offense we should finish at least in the top 10. So lets just say this teams max potential with a weak schedule is 11-5 but realistically were looking at 8-8, 9-7 with a huge upside for next season.

[TheChamp24]

Gotta love some homers here getting their panties in a bunch when a realistic prediction is made.
We are a mediocre team that is building up young talent. However, we have some guys aging as well. I see an 8-8 year is the most realistic this season. Weak D, solid O, potentially horrid special teams, but a weak schedule.

On a side note, some Raider fan on another board said the Broncos will go 3-13 and be horrible for years, and doesn't think Marshall is a Pro Bowl talent.

[Rock Chalk]

Look people, "experts" are paid to talk about the state of affairs. They are paid for their opinions. You have two options:
1) Agree with their opinion.
2) Disagree with their opinion.

Dont hate the people for doing their job though. Thats just assinine.

[azbroncfan]

Look people, "experts" are paid to talk about the state of affairs. They are paid for their opinions. You have two options:
1) Agree with their opinion.
2) Disagree with their opinion.

Dont hate the people for doing their job though. Thats just assinine.

Especially when they make a pretty fair assement of the team and a very realist prediction. I laugh whenever someone on tv/radio says something negative about the Broncos a thread pops up here I hate this guy/network and the NFL has a conspiracy against the Broncos.

[Kaylore]

They are pretty much right on based on where the team stands right now. Usually they undercut the Broncos so I am surprised.

Yeah I don't blame anyone for taking that assessment. Nothing they said was off the mark or absurd.

[cutlerfan]

Please who do they think they are! Please. Greeny all he talks about is the Jets! Forget them!

[Rock Chalk]

Please who do they think they are! Please. Greeny all he talks about is the Jets! Forget them!

Why did you open this thread? If you dont like them, or dont listen to them, you should not have even opened the thread to comment.

Dumbass.

[Cito Pelon]

Eh, this team has a chance to make the playoffs. 10-6 oughtta do it, as it does most years. Since Denver gets to play some of the potential AFC playoff teams, that's a bonus but naturally they have to beat them. They'll need a lot of things to go the right way, they're not a standout team except for at a few positions and most of them on O. They'll need to get the TO ratio above +10, I think. I bet we'll see a lot of creativity from the D with blitzes and stunts in order to get the sacks and TO's.

Here's the AFC TO ratio stats from reg season 2007:
TO ratio
1 San Diego Chargers +24
2 Indianapolis Colts +18
3 New England Patriots +16
4 Buffalo Bills +9
5 Jacksonville Jaguars +9
6 Cincinnati Bengals +5
7 Pittsburgh Steelers +3
8 Denver Broncos +1
9 Tennessee Titans 0
10 Cleveland Browns -2
11 New York Jets -4
12 Miami Dolphins -7
13 Kansas City Chiefs -11
14 Oakland Raiders -11
15 Houston Texans -13
16 Baltimore Ravens -17

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats;jsessionid=B6BC303058CDCA83982E03FD3 7004A16?season=2007&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&conference=AFC&tabSeq=2&role=TM&statisticCategory=GAME_STATS&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=TURNOVER_RATIO&d-447263-n=1

The O has to get the scoring up above 350 I think along with limit the TO's. The ST return game has to absolutely be better, that's a big deal.

[Northman]

I dont mind these guys at all. Its all tongue in cheek anyways.

[cutlerfan]

Why did you open this thread? If you dont like them, or dont listen to them, you should not have even opened the thread to comment.

Dumbass.

Dumbass thanks for asking.

I am saying how do they know? Why even get upset about it - do they have a crystal ball?

[Tombstone RJ]

Eh, this team has a chance to make the playoffs. 10-6 oughtta do it, as it does most years. Since Denver gets to play some of the potential AFC playoff teams, that's a bonus but naturally they have to beat them. They'll need a lot of things to go the right way, they're not a standout team except for at a few positions and most of them on O. They'll need to get the TO ratio above +10, I think. I bet we'll see a lot of creativity from the D with blitzes and stunts in order to get the sacks and TO's.

Here's the AFC TO ratio stats from reg season 2007:
TO ratio
1 San Diego Chargers +24
2 Indianapolis Colts +18
3 New England Patriots +16
4 Buffalo Bills +9
5 Jacksonville Jaguars +9
6 Cincinnati Bengals +5
7 Pittsburgh Steelers +3
8 Denver Broncos +1
9 Tennessee Titans 0
10 Cleveland Browns -2
11 New York Jets -4
12 Miami Dolphins -7
13 Kansas City Chiefs -11
14 Oakland Raiders -11
15 Houston Texans -13
16 Baltimore Ravens -17

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats;jsessionid=B6BC303058CDCA83982E03FD3 7004A16?season=2007&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&conference=AFC&tabSeq=2&role=TM&statisticCategory=GAME_STATS&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=TURNOVER_RATIO&d-447263-n=1

The O has to get the scoring up above 350 I think along with limit the TO's. The ST return game has to absolutely be better, that's a big deal.


If the Broncos can get +10 or greater in turnovers, this team can win alot of games.

Remember the old system the Broncos had when they won back to back SBs. It went something like this: Score lots of points early and often (thank you great oline, running game and Elway) and then force the other team to play catch-up.

When the other team quits running the ball, they throw a whole lot more, and consequently, TOs for the Broncos are there to be had. When the Broncos get a TO, the offense gets right back onto the field, and scores again.

It's basically playing defense by having a great offense, and forcing the other team to try and keep up in scoring. Most of the time, the other team makes mistakes when playing catch up and the Broncos get the ball back.

The Broncos never had fantastic defenses when they won the SBs. They certainly had talented defenses, and opportunistic defenses, but they weren't dominating defenses.

[crush17]

I think they're exactly right on all accounts.

[hambone13]

Why get mad at their prediction? On the outside, what exactly has Denver done this offseason that would lead most non-homer analysts to believe Denver is so much better than last year? Seriously. The run defense is still a huge ?. We have no legitimate MLB, DJ at WLB should be an improvement but Boss at SLB isn't exactly a top notch talent.

Offensively we should be better but if we arent even halfway better at stopping the run it WILL be another long season. What they said was not too far off the mark to be honest. 7-9 or 8-8 is a very REAL possibility, even with the "weak" schedule (which I find humorous considering the terms "no one knows whats going to happen" gets tossed around when discussing the suckiness of the Broncos state of the union yet you dont know with the other teams either).

We could very well end up winning the division too. Or we could come in last place. But 7-9 to 10-6 is a pretty good estimate of where we will be IMO.

What is rarely brought up about last year in all these, "Highly Analytical Summaries" is the incredible amount of injuries we sustained in '07. I remember Shanny talking about how 72/73 starter injuries is some kind of NFL record. I agree we could easily go 8/8 but these grossly generalized analyses should include a stat as blatantly influential to success, as that one.

Give us 25% less than that and I would think one could easily rack up 2 additional wins.

[BroncoInferno]

I think our offense will start to move toward elite status this season. Cutler is in his 3rd year with his health issue resolved, Masrshall is still looking beastly despite the arm injury, Jackson and Stokley are solid vet options, TE is stacked with Graham, Scheff and perhaps even Jackson (finally), and the starting OL looked good in pass protection against Houston, so all that bodes well.

I think the special teams will improve as well, at least become average to a little above average. We drafted some kids with a strong special teams background in Royal and Williams, and even if Niko doesn't pan out at MLB he is excellent on ST.

The defense is the unknown for me. The key, of course, will be the DL. At least two of our '07 draft picks need to step up. At the end of the day, we might not qualify as "good" on D, but I think there's no way we aren't at least improved over the 2007 disaster.

All in all, I think if we get some luck with injuries coupled with the easy second half schedule, 11-5 is entirely realistic. 8-8 could certainly be possible, though, if we have some injuries and don't catch breaks in tight games. That's my range, anywhere from 8-8 to 11-5.

[Cito Pelon]

If the Broncos can get +10 or greater in turnovers, this team can win alot of games.

Remember the old system the Broncos had when they won back to back SBs. It went something like this: Score lots of points early and often (thank you great oline, running game and Elway) and then force the other team to play catch-up.

When the other team quits running the ball, they throw a whole lot more, and consequently, TOs for the Broncos are there to be had. When the Broncos get a TO, the offense gets right back onto the field, and scores again.

It's basically playing defense by having a great offense, and forcing the other team to try and keep up in scoring. Most of the time, the other team makes mistakes when playing catch up and the Broncos get the ball back.

The Broncos never had fantastic defenses when they won the SBs. They certainly had talented defenses, and opportunistic defenses, but they weren't dominating defenses.

Shanahan can make some things happen because he knows O, and it looks like he has a pretty good O this year even with the youth on the OL. Just limit the TO's and penalties.

Denver TO ratio:

2006 0
2005 +20
2004 -9
2003 -4
2002 -5
2001 +10
2000 +19
1999 -2
1998 +10
1997 +10
1996 0
1995 -9

The way I see it right now is this team is good enough to get to the playoffs provided they play clean - few penalties, few O and ST TO's, generate more D TO's. They're not looking real powerful in any phase, but the O looks like it has possibilities to score into the top 5 in the AFC. To make the playoffs usually one good phase and the other two phases average will do it. It's not like there's clearly 6 better teams in the AFC. JAX, HOU, BUFF, CIN, CLE, TENN - who are along with us are the second tier behind NE, IND, PITT, SD - they have their problems also with fielding three good phases.

[DeuceOfClub]

I'm still amazed how Greenberg was able to find the only other Mike in the world that know less about sport than he does.

[broncosteven]

Today Mike and Mike in the Morning started their "Two-A- Days" where they answer five questions and make season predicitions for two teams each day up until the start of the Regular Season. Today, they focused on Denver and Oakland. Greenberg predicted Denver to go 8-8 and Golic predicted the Broncos to go 7-9. Overall, they both were Pro-Shanahan and said that Bowlen is doing the right thing by sticking by Shanny, and that they would not make a change even if the Broncos struggle this season. They said that Shanny is a good coach and deserves to ride the highs and lows of the franchise. Also, they said our defense still can't stop the run and our pass rush is still very weak. Also, they said with Marshall missing the beginning of the season, it will hurt them a lot and Cutler might have a tough time finding other weapons in the offense. Basically, they feel that the team will pretty much play the same way they did last year- which is medicore. Greenberg did say that if Denver can "stay afloat" till November they could be okay because the second half of the schedule is pretty weak. We shall see.

These guys have had worse to say about us. I think this is rather accurate, especially the fact that our 2nd half is easier.

If we make it through 1st half 4-4 we could still stand to go 10-6.

[ZONA]

Most of these guys base their predictions on the performance the team had the prior year, nothing more. Maybe a few key signings or injuries but most of it is based on what the team did the year before. Let me guess, they probably have NE and Indy playing for the AFC championship, with SD coming in 3rd. And for the NFC, they probably have Dallas as their favorite.

Knowing that, I don't expect anybody to predict the Broncos will do good. I don't think many people had the Giants doing very well last year and certainly nobody gave them a chance in hell against NE in the Superbowl. My my, that's why you play the games people.

[ZONA]

Shanahan can make some things happen because he knows O, and it looks like he has a pretty good O this year even with the youth on the OL. Just limit the TO's and penalties.

Denver TO ratio:

2006 0
2005 +20
2004 -9
2003 -4
2002 -5
2001 +10
2000 +19
1999 -2
1998 +10
1997 +10
1996 0
1995 -9

The way I see it right now is this team is good enough to get to the playoffs provided they play clean - few penalties, few O and ST TO's, generate more D TO's. They're not looking real powerful in any phase, but the O looks like it has possibilities to score into the top 5 in the AFC. To make the playoffs usually one good phase and the other two phases average will do it. It's not like there's clearly 6 better teams in the AFC. JAX, HOU, BUFF, CIN, CLE, TENN - who are along with us are the second tier behind NE, IND, PITT, SD - they have their problems also with fielding three good phases.


We had Pitt beat last year.

[Greybeard]

Especially when they make a pretty fair assement of the team and a very realist prediction. I laugh whenever someone on tv/radio says something negative about the Broncos a thread pops up here I hate this guy/network and the NFL has a conspiracy against the Broncos.

I agree about the hate thing. We know what our hearts want to hear, but that
doesn't comprise reality, and reality is what will determine the degree of success.

Nonetheless, I am puzzled how they can say the Broncos "still" cannot stop the
run this early in the preseason. The truth is, we "still" do not know anything of
the sort. The first preseason "game" is nothing more than and exercise to view
how those further down the roster will perform. About the only other thing is
the verterans shaking a little rust off for a few plays before they sit down
and become spectators in uniforms.

The first opportunity we will have to form a real, solid idea will be that Monday
night against the Raiders, when both sides really mean business. Until then,
enjoy the reviews and analyses, yes, but take them for a grain of salt,
except in certain individual instances.

IMHO.

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[NYBronco]

I listen to their show all the time and enjoy most of the discussions. Golic has a way of breaking things down that really make alot of sense. I heard their analysis of the Broncos and thought is was fair from an outsiders (non homer) viewpoint. Within the division I see the Broncos taking one game each from KC and oakland... that's it.

[Ambiguous]

Please who do they think they are! Please.

THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!

[azbroncfan]

We had Pitt beat last year.

?? ??

[20yardline]

Today Mike and Mike in the Morning started their "Two-A- Days" where they answer five questions and make season predicitions for two teams each day up until the start of the Regular Season. Today, they focused on Denver and Oakland. Greenberg predicted Denver to go 8-8 and Golic predicted the Broncos to go 7-9. Overall, they both were Pro-Shanahan and said that Bowlen is doing the right thing by sticking by Shanny, and that they would not make a change even if the Broncos struggle this season. They said that Shanny is a good coach and deserves to ride the highs and lows of the franchise. Also, they said our defense still can't stop the run and our pass rush is still very weak. Also, they said with Marshall missing the beginning of the season, it will hurt them a lot and Cutler might have a tough time finding other weapons in the offense. Basically, they feel that the team will pretty much play the same way they did last year- which is medicore. Greenberg did say that if Denver can "stay afloat" till November they could be okay because the second half of the schedule is pretty weak. We shall see.

What a joke. They don't know much about football. They will go at least 10-6 this year. It is Cutler's third season and the defense will be better than last year.