We're Screwed!

[Rohirrim]

Anyway you look at it. Last night I watched a special on PBS called "Global Dimming." It says particulate matter in the atmosphere is allowing less sunlight to hit the Earth which has the added benefit of protecting us from what should be the devastating effects of global warming. Huh? http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sun/

Global dimming can be dealt with by cleaning up emissions.

However, if global dimming problems are only addressed, then the effects of global warming will increase even more. This may be what happened to Europe in 2003.

In Europe, various measures have been taken in recent years to clean up the emissions to reduce pollutants that create smog and other problems, but without reducing the greenhouse gas emissions in parallel. This seems to have had a few effects:

This may have already lessened the severity of droughts and failed rains in the Sahel.
However, it seems that it may have caused, or contributed to, the European heat wave in 2003 that killed thousands in France, saw forest fires in Portugal, and caused many other problems throughout the continent.
The documentary noted that the impacts of addressing global dimming only would increase global warming more rapidly. Irreversible damage would be only about 30 years away. Global level impacts would include:

The melting of ice in Greenland, which would lead to more rising sea levels. This in turn would impact many of our major world cities
Drying tropical rain forests would increase the risk of burning. This would release even more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, further increasing global warming effects. (Some countries have pushed for using “carbon sinks” to count as part of their emission targets. This has already been controversial because these store carbon dioxide that can be released into the atmosphere when burnt. Global dimming worries increase these concerns even more.)
These and other effects could combine to lead to an increase of 10 degrees centigrade in temperature over the next 100 years, not the standard 5 degrees which most models currently predict.

This would be a more rapid warming than any other time in history, the documentary noted. With such an increase,

Vegetation will die off even more quickly
Soil erosion will increase and food production will fail
A Sahara type of climate could be possible in places such as England, while other parts of the world would fare even worse.
Such an increase in temperature would also release one of the biggest stores of greenhouse gases on earth, methane hydrate, currently contained at the bottom of the earth’s oceans and known to destabilize with warming. This gas is eight times stronger than carbon dioxide in its greenhouse effect. As the documentary also added, due to the sheer amounts that would be released, by this time, whatever we would try to curb emissions, it would be too late.
“This is not a prediction,” the documentary said, “it is a warning of what will happen if we clean up the pollution while doing nothing about greenhouse gases.” http://www.globalissues.org/EnvIssues/GlobalWarming/globaldimming.asp

Now I'm really confused. All the climatologists of the entire world should get together in one big room and not come out till they've decided what the hell is going on and what we should do about it.

[alkemical]

So then we should all get drunk and orgy till the end?

[Dudeskey]

So then we should all get drunk and orgy till the end?

Panic orgy, lol

[alkemical]

Panic orgy, lol

Might as well make the best of it.... and hey - i'm just throwing out suggestions.

[The Lone Bolt]

That's what I like about you Roh: your wide-eyed optimism.:sunshine:

[Rohirrim]

That's what I like about you Roh: your wide-eyed optimism.:sunshine:

I am confidant we can live on and create a whole new world. It will just have to be underground. !Booya!

[Dudeskey]

Might as well make the best of it.... and hey - i'm just throwing out suggestions.

oh I know it...

[The Lone Bolt]

I am confidant we can live on and create a whole new world. It will just have to be underground. !Booya!

Roh and friends going out for a beer, circa 2020:

http://homerderby.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/morlocks-2.jpg

;)

[alkemical]

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1531

[baja]

If the above were true and you had unlimited resources and knew that an immediate and drastic reduction of population would be the only way to save life on the planet would you do something like this;

## FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE ##

AVIAN FLU WEAPONIZED

Avian Flu May Already be Weaponized. Natural Solutions Foundation alerts world to startling evidence that H5N1 virus may already have been genetically engineered to create a man-made pandemic.

Is the U.S. Government acting in concert with pharmaceutical interests to implement a mandatory vaccination agenda?

WASHINGTON, DC – July 29, 2008 - Noted health freedom activist Rima E. Laibow, MD and her organization, the Natural Solutions Foundation, this week alerted Health Freedom supporters that rogue government operatives, in concert with pharmaceutical interests, may be preparing to unleash a genetically engineered Avian Flu pandemic for profit, possibly during the Olympics. The planned August delivery of an alleged Avian Flu “vaccine” coupled with other substantial pieces of intelligence has led Foundation President, Maj. Gen. Albert N. Stubblebine (USA Ret.) to conclude that an intentional pandemic “incident” may be the “Big Event with global consequences” to which Congressman Ron Paul MD alluded in his 2008 Independence Day message.

As a result, the Natural Solutions Foundation’s urgent Health Freedom eAlert and accompanying video, entitled: ‘Weaponized Avian Flu: Are YOU Ready to Die for the Establishment?’ has become an Internet phenomenon, forwarded to millions of readers, according to Foundation estimates of distribution.

The eAlert and YouTube video are available at http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?p=742

According to Stubblebine and Laibow, “The story is a long, complicated one, winding its way from China to France by way of the First World War, the Oil Cartel, the Pharmaceutical Cartel and Iraq to its final destination: a syringe full of something claiming to be a vaccine against the newly-deadly Avian Flu.

“Our best intelligence estimate is that pandemic Avian Flu has already been created through genetic engineering in the United States, fusing the deadly genome of the 1918 Pandemic, misnamed the ‘Spanish Flu’, with the DNA of the innocuous H5N1 virus in a growth medium of human kidney cells, according to the National Institutes of Health and the vaccine’s manufacturer. Some virologists believe that this would insure that the man-made mutant virus recognizes human cells and knows how to invade them.”

“A basic virological fact that the public has not been told is that it is impossible to make a vaccine against a virus that does not yet exist. Public relations efforts to the contrary, IF a vaccine is being made against the Avian Flu virus in its pandemic form, that means that the pandemic virus must already exist, period, end of discussion. So the fact that the Avian Flu vaccine is already being manufactured in China by a wholly-owned subsidiary of the French arm of the cartel is not only peculiar, but at the very least sinister.”

The Natural Solutions Foundation notes with alarm that the genome of the 1918 pandemic, the so-called “Spanish Flu”, was recently intentionally resurrected by the United States government. Because of that resurrection, both the Avian Flu, and its “vaccine” are now a significant threat to public health.

The Spanish Flu, which was not Spanish at all, was created in the U.S. through an early bioweapons program and injected into healthy young men (i.e., ’soldiers’) as the first mandatory vaccination in the military during WWI (also known as the “War to End Wars” and the “Great War”). The “Spanish Flu”, which originated in Kansas on U.S. Military bases, killed hundreds of thousands of Americans, and millions worldwide. It was one of the deadliest pandemics in modern history. It was also one of the most successful biological weapons ever created, until now.

“We can see that the pharmaceutical industry and US government are actively preparing for an Avian Flu pandemic through their own promotional literature and propaganda,” continues Laibow. “The manufacturer’s website contains a document which clearly illustrates their business model and how the company successfully capitalizes on the immensely profitable worldwide vaccination market.

To date, there have only been around 385 human cases of Avian Flu identified worldwide (assuming those identifications are trustworthy, of course), with 243 deaths. To put the absurdity of this effort into perspective, Sudden Cardiac Death (SCD), which researchers believe is heavily associated with aspartame consumption, is a leading cause of death which, according to the CDC, for example, killed 460,000 Americans in 1999 and the numbers keep rising www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5106a3.htm. But, aspartame is not under the gun, instead, a supposedly currently non-pandemic Avian Flu is the focus.

Laibow adds, “Given the shockingly obvious lack of any threat from an un-weaponized H5N1 virus, how can we explain the Bush Administration spending billions of dollars preparing each of the 50 States for what it drums into us is the “inevitable Bird Flu pandemic” anticipated to kill half or more of all Americans and similar numbers of people around the globe? Americans are outraged and must inform themselves and their families by contacting the Natural Solutions Foundation and joining the free distribution list of the informative Health Freedom eAlerts, http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=187 . eAlert list members can expect to be uniquely well informed as recipients of the Foundation’s continuing threat analysis and action steps.

###

About the Natural Solutions Foundation

The Natural Solutions Foundation was founded by Dr. Rima E. Laibow, MD and Maj. Gen. Albert N. Stubblebine, III (USA, ret.), who, along with Ralph Fucetola JD, are the Foundation Trustees. Established in 2004, the Foundation is an international NGO (Non Governmental Organization) active and registered in several countries, and is a not for profit 501(C)(3) tax exempt organization in the United States.

The Mission of the Foundation is to discover, develop, demonstrate and disseminate natural solutions to the problems threatening health and freedom, achieving and maintaining a healthy self, community and world. Since its founding the Natural Solutions Foundation has pursued a vigorous program on many fronts, including natural solutions to significant social, legal and international problems involving health and wellness. We consider health freedom to be part of those solutions. Among the major threats to health freedom are Codex Alimentarius (the World Food Code) and national agencies that are tasked with protecting the public, but are not. The threats to health and freedom are both domestic and international, as are the solutions…
Further listing of Natural Solutions Foundation accomplishments at: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=195

Source: Natural Solutions Foundation

Contact:
Dr. Rima Laibow, M.D.
Natural Solutions Foundation
dr.laibow@gmail.com

Ralph Fucetola JD
ralph.fucetola@usa.net

Websites:
www.HealthFreedomUSA.org
www.GlobalHealthFreedom.org
www.NaturalSolutionsFoundation.org
http://YouTube.com/NaturalSolutions

[TheDave]

Guess it's lucky that i am genetically immune to all forms of Avian Flu... Yes even the weaponized type.


Good for me... ;D

[Hotrod]

Guess it's lucky that i am genetically immune to all forms of Avian Flu... Yes even the weaponized type.


Good for me... ;D


If you get a chance could you feed my dog after I'm gone???

[baja]

See i don't think Dr. Laibow has it quite right. Her research and contacts are correct about the availability of the weaponized virus but I don't think it is to sell vaccines but to be used to drastically reduce world population and that is the real reason we have the 800 detention camps, they are really quarantine camps.

[baja]

Well if I am wrong it would make one hell of a movie.

[Hotrod]

See i don't think Dr. Laibow has it quite right. Her research and contacts are correct about the availability of the weaponized virus but I don't think it is to sell vaccines but to be used to drastically reduce world population and that is the real reason we have the 800 detention camps, they are really quarantine camps.

All I have to say is I aint going if they dont have cable and the NFL Network end of story.

[TheDave]

If you get a chance could you feed my dog after I'm gone???

As long as it hasn't mutated into some type zombie like, flesh eating, ass-humping, beast... sure.

'cause that would really suck... Survive the outbreak and be all alone "I am Lengend" style only to get butt-****ed then eaten by dortoH Mutant dog.

[Rohirrim]

All I have to say is I aint going if they dont have cable and the NFL Network end of story.

I'll bet the teams will suck. Three man football.

"Go long!"

"**** off! I went long last time."

"I'm sick of blocking this ahole."

"I quit."

"****, a gamma ray just incinerated the ball."

"Screw you guys, I'm going back underground."

[Rohirrim]

As long as it hasn't mutated into some type zombie like, flesh eating, ass-humping, beast... sure.

'cause that would really suck... Survive the outbreak and be all alone "I am Lengend" style only to get butt-****ed then eaten by dortoH Mutant dog.

LOL :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[cutthemdown]

Baja is crazy..... i just now realized that. Baja you are truly insane.

[DomCasual]

The bad news: we could all be dead soon.

The good news: a fortune could be made shorting Schering-Plough (http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=89839&p=irol-irhome) (maker of Coppertone Suncsreen products) stock.

Because, if it's dimmer, and stuff, then we should be able to get out more - am I right? ???

[elsid13]

If you get a chance could you feed my dog after I'm gone???


sitting on your boat, in the driveway wearing nothing but a cowboy hat and speedo doesn't mean you're gone on vacation. Freaking redneck ;D

[elsid13]

When I first some this thread title, I figured it was story about how the KC fans had over breed and the human race was becoming dimmer.

[kappys]

Hilarious! Man this is even crazier than the odditorium

[Hotrod]

sitting on your boat, in the driveway wearing nothing but a cowboy hat and speedo doesn't mean you're gone on vacation. Freaking redneck ;D

You vacation your way I'll vacation my way.

[baja]

Baja is crazy..... i just now realized that. Baja you are truly insane.


And the worst of it is I'll be in Long Beach (San Pedro) next month. Want to have lunch at the old ship yard on Terminal Island?

[cutthemdown]

And the worst of it is I'll be in Long Beach (San Pedro) next month. Want to have lunch at the old ship yard on Terminal Island?

Are you crazy? that place will be crawling with members of the insidious avian sect the seagull.

[Rohirrim]

And the worst of it is I'll be in Long Beach (San Pedro) next month. Want to have lunch at the old ship yard on Terminal Island?

My old stompin' grounds. I used to live out on Pt. Fermin. Wish I still did. :pity: Then I bought a sailboat and did the live-aboard thing at the Cabrillo Yacht Club for about a year.

[baja]

Are you crazy? that place will be crawling with members of the insidious avian sect the seagull.

But I got the cure.thwack

[baja]

My old stompin' grounds. I used to live out on Pt. Fermin. Wish I still did. :pity: Then I bought a sailboat and did the live-aboard thing at the Cabrillo Yacht Club for about a year.

Cool Ro.

I lived aboard an old girl friend's sail boat at Princeton Harbor near Half Moon Bay CA. She was a screamer so the fisherman would always give me a thumps up when they would see me. I never became a sailor though, some day ask me about the time I took that old boat out to sea....

I was in a Schwartznegger movie called Eraser and we shot on location (Terminal Island) for 6 weeks. I loved roaming around that old ship yard you see they let me stay there in my camper and off hours I was the only person inside the huge ship yard. I loved it.

[cutthemdown]

My old stompin' grounds. I used to live out on Pt. Fermin. Wish I still did. :pity: Then I bought a sailboat and did the live-aboard thing at the Cabrillo Yacht Club for about a year.

If my boat is ever done I'm thinking about slipping it around there. I don't think I will live aboard just hang out and drink lots of beer. When the flu hits I plan on heading south to humbly beg Baja to forgive me.

[watermock]

I hard DIA has a huge "conainment" area that's visible only from the air. It's Orwelian out there.

[alkemical]

Hilarious! Man this is even crazier than the odditorium

lol