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dragondawg
08-04-2008, 05:45 AM
Broncos glad to have Bly in their corner
'Most competitive guy on this team' ready for encore
By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News

He is the surprise answer to a rather basic question. The one that asks: Who, exactly, led the Broncos in interceptions in 2007?

Was it Champ Bailey, all-everything cornerback ?

Uh, no.

"You know when you finish the year, there's always some plays you want back, and I had that, too, it's just everybody saw the ones I want back on national TV," Broncos cornerback Dre Bly said. "But I thought I had a pretty good year front to back, and I think I can have a better one in this defense."

Yes, it was Bly, with five interceptions, who led the Broncos last season. It was his first year with the team after the Broncos had surrendered two starters heading for backup roles -- running back Tatum Bell and tackle George Foster -- as well as a swap of picks in the 2007 draft.

Yes, it was Bly who then was awarded a five-year, $33 million contract by the Broncos to be the guy on the toasty seat in the Denver secondary.

Because when it comes to throwing the ball against the Broncos secondary, most teams follow but one commandment: Thou shalt not throw against Champ Bailey, unless it is really necessary or you simply have made a mistake.

"And anybody who is opposite a Hall of Fame corner is always going to feel pressure," Broncos coach Mike Shanahan said. "Quarterbacks are going to go away from Champ, and Dre's always going to get more shots. That comes with the territory. Some guys embrace it; a guy like Dre, I believe, embraces it, and he has to."

"One thing about Dre, he is probably the most competitive guy on this team," Bailey said. "He probably just knew he was going to get some action when he came here, probably more than any other time in his career. We talked about it a lot. But he looks forward to that, he relishes that opportunity."

Falling short

That he does, Bly agreed, but he also knows in and among the team's defensive struggles in 2007 -- assistant head coach/defense Jim Bates was replaced by Bob Slowik because of them -- were the lofty expectations Bly would give the Broncos a matched set of Pro Bowl lockdown cornerbacks immediately upon his arrival.

A pair that simply would reel in the interceptions, interceptions that never really came as predicted, even as the Broncos surrendered a bulky 25 passing touchdowns -- none replayed more than the 82-yard missile launch Brett Favre made to Greg Jennings, over Bly, in a Packers overtime win on Monday Night Football in October.

"Overall, there are always going to be some things you do wrong, or you don't do as well," Bly said. "And I know there were some touchdowns I was responsible for that I haven't given up in the past, but being in the system and the scheme that we were using, the play was made.

"We just gave up too many passing touchdowns. But people don't see what goes on in the trenches, or what doesn't work, they see what goes on in the back end. And a passing touchdown is an easy way, a fast way to score points and everybody sees it."

Bly said he and Bailey were under orders last season to "just play over the top" which basically means drop deep, don't let any receivers behind you and cover inside out, from the middle of the field toward the sideline.

All while the defense often struggled to consistently rush the passer and to consistently defend the run.

"It was basically give up the outs, and the shorter stuff, just don't get beat deep, but pretty much this year we'll mix in some things," Bly said. "But our first priority is to dominate the run. We were bad in the run last year; that's our main focus, that's what we've been emphasizing and I just think -- we're involved, too, at corner -- that we know if we're going to the playoffs, we have to deal with the run a lot better than we did last year."

Bly said he believes the Broncos defense, under Slowik, will rush the passer with more regularity. Getting Dewayne Robertson will help, Bly said.

The cornerback also believes Denver has spent much of the offseason and a big part of training camp reasserting a commitment to run defense.

"(Slowik) wants everybody involved in that, and that means me and Champ, too," Bly said. "I just think quarterbacks are going to have a harder time settling in back there if the offense can't run the ball every time they want to."

Better with age?

Having turned 31 in May, Bly also now teams with Bailey to form a rarity in defensive circles. They are entering their 10th season at a position where youthful speed often, and usually, trumps experience.

Bly said he believes he has maintained most of the speed that made him a second-round pick in the 1999 draft, but he also saves steps these days.

"I can read offenses and I can read plays so much better than I could in my first three, four years in the league," Bly said. "I'm not getting any faster, I'm not getting quicker -- I don't feel like I've lost anything, but I ain't getting anymore to add on, either -- so you have to improve your awareness, because it can give you an extra step."

Bly also said he is far more cognizant of his maintaining flexibility now that he has crossed into 30-something territory, bringing in a physical therapist he used in St. Louis a few times a year to work through a stretching routine, as well as running more and lifting weights less in his workouts.

"I know routes, I know releases," Bly said. "Having great awareness in a lot of situations can carry you a long way.

"People say I guess and this and that, well . . . I tell people if I guess, I need to go to damn Vegas because I'm a great guesser, because maybe I'm not guessing since I've been intercepting balls my whole life.

"It ain't like I've been exposed my whole life back there. I intercepted the ball in high school, and nobody in college intercepted more balls than I did (at North Carolina, where he set the Atlantic Coast Conference record with 20). I intercept it in the NFL. I know I can get the ball, and I'm going to show it again this year."

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/aug/03/broncos-glad-to-have-bly-in-their-corner/

Drek
08-04-2008, 06:07 AM
Bly is a better CB than a lot of people on this board give him credit for. He didn't look great last year but that was playing with an injury behind a defensive front seven that couldn't do much of anything.

I was actually surprised how willingly he'd step up in run support, even though it is very far from his strong suit. He, much like Champ, took a beating last year because they had to cover the OLBs asses on outside runs and cover passing plays in which a QB could have nearly endless time to throw the ball. We straighten that out and they'll both look much better.

TDmvp
08-04-2008, 07:26 AM
Bly is a better CB than a lot of people on this board give him credit for. He didn't look great last year but that was playing with an injury behind a defensive front seven that couldn't do much of anything.

I was actually surprised how willingly he'd step up in run support, even though it is very far from his strong suit. He, much like Champ, took a beating last year because they had to cover the OLBs asses on outside runs and cover passing plays in which a QB could have nearly endless time to throw the ball. We straighten that out and they'll both look much better.

QFT ... good post ... lots o truth in there ...

worm
08-04-2008, 08:52 AM
Bly said he and Bailey were under orders last season to "just play over the top" which basically means drop deep, don't let any receivers behind you and cover inside out, from the middle of the field toward the sideline.

If those were the orders and that was the one thing they were trying to take away...then how on earth do you lose the Green Bay game like you did.

Atlas
08-04-2008, 10:25 AM
Gee he got beat. The last I heard Farve and Jennings are pretty good. **** happens. Champs also got beat in that game for a long TD.

Jason in LA
08-04-2008, 10:28 AM
Bly didn't only get beat on games on national TV. He was getting beat a lot. He needs to have a better year this year.

bronco militia
08-04-2008, 10:34 AM
He's still better than Dwill

now if we can only get a pass rush

SonOfLe-loLang
08-04-2008, 11:08 AM
Bly didn't only get beat on games on national TV. He was getting beat a lot. He needs to have a better year this year.

It's pretty hard to cover guys for like....45 seconds at a time

Mediator12
08-04-2008, 11:13 AM
Both Champ and Bly had down years as the whole defense went to Hell in a handbasket last year. The DL was the definition of Suck and as Bly said they paid for it dearly on the back end.

It just goes to show you games are won with a dominant DL and solid back seven in coverage not the other way around in today's NFL.

Bly was not awful at all last year, he just got exposed more often than not because of the dreadful lack of pass Rush and overall terrible situations the lack of a run defense placed on the secondary.

bronco militia
08-04-2008, 11:16 AM
Both Champ and Bly had down years as the whole defense went to Hell in a handbasket last year. The DL was the definition of Suck and as Bly said they paid for it dearly on the back end.

It just goes to show you games are won with a dominant DL and solid back seven in coverage not the other way around in today's NFL.

Bly was not awful at all last year, he just got exposed more often than not because of the dreadful lack of pass Rush and overall terrible situations the lack of a run defense placed on the secondary.


no doubt...Champ was our best LB last year

Drek
08-04-2008, 12:00 PM
Both Champ and Bly had down years as the whole defense went to Hell in a handbasket last year. The DL was the definition of Suck and as Bly said they paid for it dearly on the back end.

It just goes to show you games are won with a dominant DL and solid back seven in coverage not the other way around in today's NFL.

Bly was not awful at all last year, he just got exposed more often than not because of the dreadful lack of pass Rush and overall terrible situations the lack of a run defense placed on the secondary.

I get the point you're trying to make here, but our front seven as a whole was very far from serviceable last year.

That said, dead on in that we need to know our DL can create some QB pressure and our LBs can handle the run, instead of needing our DBs to pick up the slack all over the field.

broncofan2438
08-04-2008, 12:07 PM
Bly didn't only get beat on games on national TV. He was getting beat a lot. He needs to have a better year this year.

Totally agree. With other good corners in our division, Bly and Champ need to step it up a bit

Inkana7
08-04-2008, 02:23 PM
Totally agree. With other good corners in our division, Bly and Champ need to step it up a bit

Because, as everyone knows, a corner's success is based almost wholly on their peers.

Jason in LA
08-04-2008, 02:37 PM
It's pretty hard to cover guys for like....45 seconds at a time

I wouldn't put all the blame for Bly getting beat on the pass rush. He got beat on his own a lot. The most obvious example is the game winning TD against the Pack. Farve took like a five step drop and just launched the ball. The pass rush wasn't a factor because the ball was gone before they had a chance to get there. Bly was just beat. The Broncos could of had a blitzer coming in untouched and he wouldn't have gotten there in time.

Kaylore
08-04-2008, 02:39 PM
I wouldn't put all the blame for Bly getting beat on the pass rush. He got beat on his own a lot. The most obvious example is the game winning TD against the Pack. Farve took like a five step drop and just launched the ball. The pass rush wasn't a factor because the ball was gone before they had a chance to get there. Bly was just beat. The Broncos could of had a blitzer coming in untouched and he wouldn't have gotten there in time.
He bit on PA so I'll blame the front seven. If we could stop the run then our Corners wouldn't be biting on PA as much. I'm confident that will be much improved this year. Bly does gamble but that play in particular was just a good call and Bly bit on the run hard.

Drek
08-04-2008, 02:56 PM
I wouldn't put all the blame for Bly getting beat on the pass rush. He got beat on his own a lot. The most obvious example is the game winning TD against the Pack. Farve took like a five step drop and just launched the ball. The pass rush wasn't a factor because the ball was gone before they had a chance to get there. Bly was just beat. The Broncos could of had a blitzer coming in untouched and he wouldn't have gotten there in time.
Kaylore just gave a great explanation for that play so I'm not going to repeat that as well.

Just wanted to add that half the reason you want a guy like Dre Bly is for his gambling. People act like its some sort of football sin, but interceptions come from gambles.

Champ Bailey gambles all the time. Take the 2005 AFC Wild Card game against New England for example. Champ's 98 yard return came after a play in which is practically loafed back in coverage and dared Brady to come after him. He gambled huge on that play, but he was placing his bets on his athleticism and skills to deliver the payoff. They did.

Bly is the same kind of player. Obviously not that good, but he was one of the better DBs in the NFL for three years running in Detroit. His physical skills haven't wained in that time, he's just been playing in schemes that didn't allow for him to shine.

If we go back to the DB schemes of Slowik's first few years here and actually add a pass rush we'll see a big payoff from Champ and Bly both.

Broncofan_H
08-04-2008, 02:57 PM
I would personally like to see Foxy step up and take Bly's spot opposite Champ (as he's been suggesting he should recently). I really don't want to lose Foxworth after the year.

Beantown Bronco
08-04-2008, 03:00 PM
I would personally like to see Foxy step up and take Bly's spot opposite Champ (as he's been suggesting he should recently). I really don't want to lose Foxworth after the year.

I think the opposite would happen. They have a better shot at losing Foxworth next year if he does start than if he doesn't IMO.

Rabb
08-04-2008, 03:12 PM
I love how Bly is just trashed for that single play, he had a damn good year otherwise with all things considered. I hope he f'in dominates this year so we can watch all the people that flamed him for last year back peddal.

Beantown Bronco
08-04-2008, 03:20 PM
Just like John has ruined the QB position for all future Bronco QBs, Champ has done the same for CBs. People certainly expect the world out of him, and yet they forget the telling statistic that was thrown around earlier in the off season:

Champ only faced opposing #1 WRs something like 25% of the time last year because the other team would move them around to keep it from happening. Guess who was facing the #1 WRs the other 75% of the time?

leon
08-04-2008, 07:17 PM
Dre Bly Needs To Get His A** In Gear And Cover Better!!! I Live In The Same City That Jennings From Green Bay Comes From. He Made Bly Look Like An A** That Nite.

Drek
08-04-2008, 09:16 PM
I would personally like to see Foxy step up and take Bly's spot opposite Champ (as he's been suggesting he should recently). I really don't want to lose Foxworth after the year.

Foxworth isn't as good as he thinks he is. He'll be playing somewhere else next year and I wouldn't be surprised if he makes some asinine comments about not getting a fair shot here on his way out of town.

He's not as fast as Bly, he doesn't have the fluid hips of Bly, and he doesn't have the ball skills. He can probably stick to his man as well, maybe even better, but that don't mean **** when you still allow the pass to be completed.

broncolife
08-04-2008, 09:38 PM
Champ: Its third and 12 so get ready to play the run
Bly: But wont they most likley pass
Champ: Have you seen our run Defense?
Bly: Shiat!!!! your right
Commentator: Bly is beat deep for 60 yard td.


Champ: Its third and 15 get ready to play the run
Bly: Screw you were playing the pass this time
Champ: ok
Commentator:The broncos just allowed a 80 yard rushing TD.
Bly:Shiat!!!
Champ: Told you we should have played the run, we could have kept them to to 20 yard gain.

chaz
08-04-2008, 10:13 PM
It's pretty hard to cover guys for like....45 seconds at a time

:spit: :thumbsup:

Rank&File
08-04-2008, 10:18 PM
I'm hoping for all of us to be pleasantly surprised with the D this year. The system just didn't work in Denver, which surprised me because Bates had success it seemed wherever he was. Hopefully, this new/old system will get us back to the top 1/3. I think we're in good shape w/Bly, but we've got to get a push up front.

Los Broncos
08-04-2008, 10:27 PM
I've been hard on Bly in the past.

I do trust him over there a little more than DW (Rip).

He gets burned once in a while, but always give up big plays that kill you.

Beantown Bronco
08-05-2008, 08:16 AM
Dre Bly Needs To Get His A** In Gear And Cover Better!!! I Live In The Same City That Jennings From Green Bay Comes From. He Made Bly Look Like An A** That Nite.

Ummm, then you of all people should know that Jennings had around 1,000 yards and 12 TDs last season. He made a lot of DBs look bad.....that's what really good receivers with really good QBs throwing them the ball do.

Dedhed
08-05-2008, 08:36 AM
If those were the orders and that was the one thing they were trying to take away...then how on earth do you lose the Green Bay game like you did.
Because when the DL and LBs can't even slow down the run, everyone behind them becomes susceptible to PA and will have to be thinking run support more than they should have to.

TheReverend
08-05-2008, 08:41 AM
He bit on PA so I'll blame the front seven. If we could stop the run then our Corners wouldn't be biting on PA as much. I'm confident that will be much improved this year. Bly does gamble but that play in particular was just a good call and Bly bit on the run hard.

That play he actually read pass all the way. When he looked for the ball, he drifted inside and ended up out of position. It happens. Watch it again, he's step for step, turns his head and drifts inside. Did he lose the game? Absolutely not.

I love Bly being here and Dre is one of the top 5 defenders in the league on playing the ball in the air, too. He just screwed that one up.

Kaylore
08-05-2008, 09:03 AM
That play he actually read pass all the way. When he looked for the ball, he drifted inside and ended up out of position. It happens. Watch it again, he's step for step, turns his head and drifts inside. Did he lose the game? Absolutely not.

I love Bly being here and Dre is one of the top 5 defenders in the league on playing the ball in the air, too. He just screwed that one up.

I'll watch it again. All I remember is they went PA and then Bly was chasing someone two steps in front of him and seven years younger. Really we had an opportunity to win the game on the goal line and we called a QB draw with five men to block, then Cutler missed the throw to the pylon that probably would have converted. After that it just seemed it wasn't in the cards for us.

TheReverend
08-05-2008, 09:08 AM
I'll watch it again. All I remember is they went PA and then Bly was chasing someone two steps in front of him and seven years younger. Really we had an opportunity to win the game on the goal line and we called a QB draw with five men to block, then Cutler missed the throw to the pylon that probably would have converted. After that it just seemed it wasn't in the cards for us.

I hear ya. Marshall really took it on his shoulders to bring the momentum back and we really blew it playing conservative.

There were many a TD given up knifing in on the PA, but that OT one wasn't one of them to best of my memory.

lex
08-05-2008, 10:00 AM
Bly's "Im a playmaker, I make plays" approach is the equivalent of Sammy Sosa swinging for the fences with the tying run at 2nd and two outs. Given that our DLine was sketchy, it wasnt very smart for him to so readily bite and then get beat deep. If we had a better pass rush, it would make more sense for him to bite on the short stuff, but we didnt. And then he also likes deflecting any kind of blame that goes his way.