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kmonty
08-01-2008, 02:39 PM
http://www.timescall.com/sports_story.asp?id=10293

Publish Date: 8/1/2008

Crowder aiming higher

By Brian Howell
Longmont Times-Call

ENGLEWOOD — In a lot of ways, Tim Crowder’s rookie season was a success.

The defensive end had four sacks for the Denver Broncos. He also scored a touchdown and recovered two fumbles.

Heading into his second season, however, Crowder is hardly satisfied.

“I wasn’t pleased with it,” he said. “I always expect more of myself. That’s what keeps me going. I could have 16 sacks, and I’m still going to be pushing for 20.”

The 6-foot-4, 275-pounder from the University of Texas may not get to 20 sacks, or even 16, this season, but he said he’s already ahead of where he was last year.

“I won’t necessarily say it’s easy, but I’m just better prepared for this year,” said Crowder, who was selected in the second round of the 2007 NFL Draft. “I’m used to the altitude and used to the coaches and used to the way practice is.”

He’s also healthy. Leading up to the second preseason game last year, against Dallas, Crowder suffered a high ankle sprain. The injury led to him being inactive for the first three regular-season games.

“When I hurt my ankle last year, I wasn’t ever the same after that,” he said. “When the weather changed, it got worse. Everything is good now, and I’m ready to go.”

Crowder has been pleased with his work so far in camp.

“I’m a lot stronger at the point of attack, and I’m doing the stuff they brought me here to do,” he said.

He’s even making the coaches take notice.

“(Defensive coordinator Bob Slowik) was telling me (Tuesday), ‘You look a whole lot better than last year,’” Crowder said. “It let’s me know I’m going in the right direction.”

QUITE A DIFFERENCE: Rookie safety Josh Barrett came to the Broncos with a reputation for being a hard hitter.

At 6-foot-3 and 225 pounds, he’s certainly got the physical tools to succeed. Sill, the seventh-round draft choice from Arizona State, already is noticing a difference from college to the NFL.

“You hear a lot from everyone about the talent (in the NFL), and it’s no joke,” Barrett said. “Everybody can play, everybody can go, everybody is fast, everybody is strong. That’s probably the biggest thing I’m getting adjusted to. You can’t take any plays off. There are opportunities for you to make plays, and those opportunities come few and far between.”

Barrett believes he can play well in the NFL, but he also knows he can’t relax.

“You want to be confident in your skills, but at the same time, you’re aware of the fact that you can’t be overconfident,” he said. “Guys out here at any given moment can make you look like you don’t know what you’re doing.”

SITTING OUT: The Broncos want to get an MRI on center Tom Nalen’s sore left knee to see if everything checks out all right. Broncos coach Mike Shanahan said that trainer Steve Antonopulos thought the irritation was in the bursa sac beneath the knee.

“(Antonopulos) doesn’t think it’s anything serious,” Shanahan said.

The Broncos also held out defensive end Ebenezer Ekuban on Thursday morning as he comes back from a torn Achilles’ tendon.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

BroncoFanatic
08-01-2008, 02:52 PM
Thanks, CP for the report, as well as finding it in my home town paper ;D

broncofan2438
08-01-2008, 02:59 PM
Crowder should be a beast this year.......lets ge it on!

Beantown Bronco
08-01-2008, 03:14 PM
I'm not a big fan of fluff without at least a little peanut butter.

Paladin
08-01-2008, 03:17 PM
Do you think Crowder, Moss/Doom, Thomas, DRob and Peterson could be a handful for opposing Olines this year? What if the Broncos got one more vet DT?

BroncoBuff
08-01-2008, 03:29 PM
Do you think Crowder, Moss/Doom, Thomas, DRob and Peterson could be a handful for opposing Olines this year? What if the Broncos got one more vet DT?
I love Kenny Peterson ... I'm his #1 fan on this board, but moving him inside makes me wonder. Mallard is a passing-down DT only I think.

Crowder wasn't getting much buzz around here before this, but he was 2nd on the team in sacks as a rookie. Jarvis and Engleberger might be riding pine regardless what they do ... Crowder and Doom might be the ticket.

Broncosmang
08-01-2008, 04:23 PM
Heard a great analogy last year about Moss and Crowder, and please don't misunderstand I'm not saying either are hall of famers. They've still got a lot to prove, but a guy I know who played center and guard for the Broncos in the 70s said Crowder is a Strahan type guy and Moss a Simeon Rice type player. I for one will take the Strahan clone. Crazy thing about those two is that they've been compared to one another since high school when Moss was the top rated d end in Texas and Crowder was the second rated d end

Inkana7
08-01-2008, 04:27 PM
I love Kenny Peterson ... I'm his #1 fan on this board, but moving him inside makes me wonder. Mallard is a passing-down DT only I think.

Crowder wasn't getting much buzz around here before this, but he was 2nd on the team in sacks as a rookie. Jarvis and Engleberger might be riding pine regardless what they do ... Crowder and Doom might be the ticket.

Peterson wasn't moved inside, he was moved outside on occasions earlier in his career. Kenny Peterson was a decent DT for OSU before coming into the league, and I'd bet that he's played about 90% of his snaps at DT.

BroncoMan4ever
08-01-2008, 04:35 PM
i always thought that even on draft day Crowder would become our starter next to Doom and Moss would come in on passing downs to add another pass rusher with Doom.

kmonty
08-01-2008, 04:40 PM
I love T Crow and love his comments in the article. Reminds of comments Dumervil made about the mindset - it's not all "too much" for you, the NFL aint nothing, just go to work and improve on last year. Stay hungry.

broncosteven
08-01-2008, 06:12 PM
...I know who played center and guard for the Broncos in the 70s said ...

Was he the dude who Mean Joe Green punched in the nuts in the 77 1st round playoff?

Popps
08-01-2008, 06:14 PM
Moss showed me a lot more than Crowder did last season. Crowder got manhandled a good amount of the time.

That said, he's young... and most scouts thought his skill-set would translate to the NFL well. So, let's hope he breaks out.

Atlas
08-01-2008, 06:16 PM
It's good Crowder realizes that he needs to aim higher. Because last year all he did was piss on the floor!!!!

Broncosmang
08-01-2008, 06:37 PM
Was he the dude who Mean Joe Green punched in the nuts in the 77 1st round playoff?

Lol. That is a great story. The guy I know is Mike Montler. I'm not sure if Mike was playing guard or center in the game, but as I remember it, he wasn't the one who got punched in the nuts. He talked about how back then they had this retribution thing. It was just expected that they would go after Green so he told the backup who came in for the guy that got punched that he was going to lock Green up and this other guy was supposed to come in and take out Green's legs. Well, as Mike stated it. He locked Green up and his index finger slipped off Green's jersey and went like half way up Green's nose. Needless to say Green was pissed. And you know now that I think about it Mike might have been the guy that got nut punched because once his finger was out of Joe's nose, Green came out punchin.

Broncosmang
08-01-2008, 06:44 PM
Im going to have to try and get a hold of Mike the next time I'm in Colorado, but I know he and Paul Howard were both punched by Green in the 77 divisional playoff game. It's been a couple of years since he told me the story.

jsco70
08-01-2008, 06:48 PM
Lol. That is a great story. The guy I know is Mike Montler. I'm not sure if Mike was playing guard or center in the game, but as I remember it, he wasn't the one who got punched in the nuts. He talked about how back then they had this retribution thing. It was just expected that they would go after Green so he told the backup who came in for the guy that got punched that he was going to lock Green up and this other guy was supposed to come in and take out Green's legs. Well, as Mike stated it. He locked Green up and his index finger slipped off Green's jersey and went like half way up Green's nose. Needless to say Green was pissed. And you know now that I think about it Mike might have been the guy that got nut punched because once his finger was out of Joe's nose, Green came out punchin.

Edit - Sorry, didn't see the post above. Glad to know I was right. It was Paul Howard who Mean Joe punched.

Broncosmang
08-01-2008, 07:00 PM
I would love to find some game film of that whole fiasco. Mike had nothing good to say about Joe. He also had some interesting thoughts on the loss in the Super Bowl. It was his contention that if the offense hadn't tried to get cute we would have beaten Dallas. He says that after playing against the Miami's, Pitts and Dallas of the 70s that he was certain the the 77 version of the Orange Crush was the best defense of that era.

jsco70
08-01-2008, 10:10 PM
I would love to find some game film of that whole fiasco. Mike had nothing good to say about Joe. He also had some interesting thoughts on the loss in the Super Bowl. It was his contention that if the offense hadn't tried to get cute we would have beaten Dallas. He says that after playing against the Miami's, Pitts and Dallas of the 70s that he was certain the the 77 version of the Orange Crush was the best defense of that era.

Pretty cool you have an inside pipeline to the 77 squad. I'm sure he could tell some incredible stories.

Don't know about beating Dallas in SB XII though. Man were they talented. The Doomsday Defense, Dorsett, Staubach, Drew Pearson, Butch Johnson, Landry calling the shots...quite an assembly of talent.

Denver certainly had their chances. The fumbled kickoff at the goal line is one in particular. That play alone could have altered the game.

BroncoBuff
08-01-2008, 10:21 PM
Peterson wasn't moved inside, he was moved outside on occasions earlier in his career. Kenny Peterson was a decent DT for OSU before coming into the league, and I'd bet that he's played about 90% of his snaps at DT.
Really? He's a bit small for a DT ... and the thing I liked about him was his lateral quickness and long arms. He had an excellent swim move last preseason - lightning fast.

Drek
08-02-2008, 12:42 AM
Really? He's a bit small for a DT ... and the thing I liked about him was his lateral quickness and long arms. He had an excellent swim move last preseason - lightning fast.

He's in the 285-290 pound range, thats about where we want DTs for this system, maybe a little heavier but we don't need 320 pound child eaters.

Its more important that he be strong and quick. I'm sure the 'roid cycle he was on this time last year helped with both of those. ;)

ZONA
08-02-2008, 01:59 AM
It's good Crowder realizes that he needs to aim higher. Because last year all he did was piss on the floor!!!!

Give the guy a break. He was a rookie. I'd like to know what rookie DE's come into the league and dominate. Mario was very average his rookie season and he was the #1 pick 2 years ago.

Atlas
08-02-2008, 03:07 AM
Do you think Crowder, Moss/Doom, Thomas, DRob and Peterson could be a handful for opposing Olines this year? What if the Broncos got one more vet DT?

The have McKinely. He is a good Vet DT. Denver is set at that position.

Dedhed
08-02-2008, 05:48 AM
I think Crowder is going to land a starting spot before Moss on this team. Not necassarily because he's more talented, but because of Dumervil. Having Moss and Dumervil on the field at the same time at this point only makes sense on passing downs, and Crowder is a better fit opposite Elvis in the early downs.

I really like the shape our DL is coming into this year. I think D-Rob and Mckinley will be the likely starters with Thomas and Peterson getting pretty much equal time depending on the situation in the game. If we get a lead I can see a line-up that has Doom and Moss flying of the edges with Thomas and Peterson coming on the interior. If we're trailing or playing a team trying to pound the ball I can see a line-up with Crowder and Engelberger on the ends with Robertson and Mckinley in the middle. I also see every combination in between, and they all are intriguing at the least.

Any way you look at it, this is by far the best our DL has looked in a LONG time, and I think with a little luck they could come together as a very strong unit.