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Kaylore
08-01-2008, 12:15 AM
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jul/31/broncos-report-nalens-knee-still-a-problem/

The belief, so far, is that Tom Nalen's sore left knee simply is a residual effect of the arthroscopic surgery he endured in June.

Still, Nalen and the Broncos are concerned enough to take pictures in the hopes of making certain all is well.

Nalen missed his third day of practice Thursday and was scheduled to undergo a magnetic resonance imaging exam Thursday afternoon.

Casey Wiegmann once again worked with the first offensive line in Nalen's absence.

"He's going to have an MRI . . . just to check everything out, make sure that there's something we haven't missed," head coach Mike Shanahan said.

"According to (trainer Steve Antonopulos), it's not the knee. It's beneath the knee, the bursa sac, that's causing him a little irritation right now. He doesn't think it's anything serious."

Nalen, beginning his 15th season with the Broncos, aggravated his left knee during the team's June minicamp and underwent a relatively minor operation. But he experienced soreness in his knee earlier this week, which kept him out of practice Tuesday and forced an early exit after he tried to practice Wednesday morning.

"It's more preventative than anything," Shanahan said. "We'll check it out with an MRI and, hopefully, everything is fine and he's just a little bit sore."

Utility man

It is Josh Mallard's versatility that could make him a valuable cog in the revamped Broncos defense.

Mallard, signed in early November as a midseason stopgap, still was productive enough on the defensive line that his 3.5 sacks ranked third on the team.

Now in his first training camp with Denver, Mallard has seen time at every spot along the defensive front and also is an experienced long-snapper.

On Thursday, Mallard spent a great portion of practice working with Elvis Dumervil, Jarvis Moss and Dewayne Robertson on the first pass-rush front in third-and-long situations.

"He's in the process of establishing himself, and one thing he does is that he's an explosive pass rusher," defensive line coach Bill Johnson said.

"He loves to rush the passer, and what we have to do as the season goes on is see where he is as far as where he fits. I'm sure glad we got him, and he's done a good job for us to this point."

Rookie runs

Running back Ryan Torain enjoyed a few more repetitions with the first offense Thursday, and the rookie from Arizona State is well aware of how well young, previously unheralded running backs have fared during Shanahan's tenure with the Broncos.

Torain, a fifth-round pick in the April draft, was slowed by nagging injuries during his senior season, but he boasts the sort of north-south style Shanahan always has favored.

"Coming out to Denver to play running back is a huge opportunity," Torain said. "They have a good thing going out there with this offense. I just have to stay positive and focused. Have fun with it, and good things will come."

Etc.

* Second-year tackle Ryan Harris and defensive tackle Kenny Peterson got into a post-play shoving match during team drills, but tempers quickly were cooled.

* Tight end Brett Pierce made the catch of the day, during a seven- on-seven session, running a seam route down the middle of the field to make a diving catch of a pass from Jay Cutler.

Friday

The Broncos will practice at 8:30 a.m. and 3:40 p.m. The morning practice is open to the media only. The afternoon practice is special teams only, and the gates open at 2:40 p.m.
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Kaylore
08-01-2008, 12:17 AM
Nalen could go either way. I do think by the end of this year we'll have flushed all the old guys off the team and the youth movement will be complete. It's nice to move forward, but it's also sad in a way.

Tomorrow is a VIP only practice. Media and special guests.

bpc
08-01-2008, 12:23 AM
The tearing of the padding under the knee is caused by a condition called chondromalicia. Not fun. I've had surgery on both of my knees for it. Little rivets pop up after cartilage tears which irritates the tendon's around the knee. Not an issue to be taken lightly at Nalen's age. Surgery on it takes longer than a normal scope as well if Nalen is to heal.

Sorry Tommy, I don't think your older legs have much life left in them.

I wish I could hear more about Lichtensteiger. Seems he is going to be thrust into a larger role here in the next two years. We'll see what Weigman has.

I'm a huge fan of Alex Mack from Cal. The guy is a taller version of Olin Kruetz.

cutthemdown
08-01-2008, 12:37 AM
If anyone on the line is going to break down Nalen is a good choice. He got injured last yr, had surgery, and is limping around a month before the season starts. That tells me he is going to struggle then retire.

broncofan2438
08-01-2008, 12:48 AM
He'll be fine

BroncoBuff
08-01-2008, 12:50 AM
Josh Mallard, signed in early November as a midseason stopgap, still was productive enough on the defensive line that his 3.5 sacks ranked third on the team.
Well, one of those sacks he was flattened on the ground, and reached out and tripped Phillip Rivers as he ran past.


Now in his first training camp with Denver, Mallard has seen time at every spot along the defensive front and also is an experienced long-snapper.
A-HA! I'm always on the lookout for a position-player long-snapper ... that's how Mustard makes the team ;D
.

cutthemdown
08-01-2008, 01:01 AM
He'll be fine

If Nalen plays at a high level I would be surprised. I think he's probably done being an elite player in the NFL. I hope I'm wrong though I love Nalen.

bpc
08-01-2008, 01:17 AM
Nalen's best days were behind him when he tore up his ACL. He's been merely good or above average since then and is detiorating worse. Not hating on the man, just being honest with our squad. He's still a good pass blocker, slightly above average run blocker who normally gets knocked off by larger tackles at the LOS.

worm
08-01-2008, 01:24 AM
Nalen's best days were behind him when he tore up his ACL. He's been merely good or above average since then and is detiorating worse. Not hating on the man, just being honest with our squad. He's still a good pass blocker, slightly above average run blocker who normally gets knocked off by larger tackles at the LOS.

Who also controls the line and provides leadership.

We need him. A 75% Nalen is better than a 100% Weigman.

BroncoBuff
08-01-2008, 01:27 AM
Nalen's best days were behind him when he tore up his ACL.
He was Pro-Bowl in 2003, the year after he tore his ACL ... and he was Dr. Z Sports Illustrated All-Pro in 2006.

bpc
08-01-2008, 01:32 AM
Who also controls the line and provides leadership.

We need him. A 75% Nalen is better than a 100% Weigman.

We'll see. I don't dispute his importance in Broncos history, he like Lynch, Smith and a few others are just getting older.

Mind is there, body will not be for much longer.

bpc
08-01-2008, 01:33 AM
He was Pro-Bowl in 2003, the year after he tore his ACL ... and he was Dr. Z Sports Illustrated All-Pro in 2006.

I hate Dr. Z. I really don't put much salt into what he says... if I did, I would think Champ Bailey is one of the worst corners in the league.

I'm not tearing down Nalen, just giving my honest opinion.

Wasn't he an injury replacement in 03?

chaz
08-01-2008, 02:01 AM
i'm getting pretty concerned....thought iron tommy was good to go...

elsid13
08-01-2008, 04:48 AM
this makes the Myers trade even more head scratching

eddie mac
08-01-2008, 06:20 AM
Well, one of those sacks he was flattened on the ground, and reached out and tripped Phillip Rivers as he ran past.



A-HA! I'm always on the lookout for a position-player long-snapper ... that's how Mustard makes the team ;D
.

You sure you're not confusing Mustard with Leach there???

Ray Finkle
08-01-2008, 06:59 AM
this makes the Myers trade even more head scratching

I still think Myers was overrated....

chrisp
08-01-2008, 07:08 AM
This is how it happens with the older guys - they still feel just as fast and strong, but somehow thety just can't get healthy. Can't help but feel this is what's going to happen with Nalen - even if he comes back from this something else will go wrong.

However, that's not to say we don't want him back - just that I've felt for some time we're on borrowed time with this guy and the sooner we have a solid replacement lined up the better. 15 years in the league in any position is impressive, but in the middle of the trenches its even moreso. Fingers crossed for him but crossed for the backup as well....

kmonty
08-01-2008, 08:01 AM
I still think Myers was overrated....

I don't think 'overrated' is a strong enough word myself.

SoDak Bronco
08-01-2008, 09:28 AM
Who did we draft for Meyers pick?? Barret? Meyers was okay, he was coached up and was at his ceiling in regards to how good he was going to be..I like the move of getting rid of him, especially with the draft and wiegmann signing.

BroncoFanatic
08-01-2008, 09:35 AM
Isn't Tommy now the last player left from the Super Bowl years? :(

rovolution
08-01-2008, 09:41 AM
I still think Myers was overrated....

Shaun Rodgers would second that opinion.

worm
08-01-2008, 09:52 AM
Isn't Tommy now the last player left from the Super Bowl years? :(

End of an era and the dawn of a new one. Just hope Nails can stay this last year as the loss of Lynch and Rod will leave a huge leadership void.

Hotrod
08-01-2008, 10:03 AM
Never doubt the tommy :nono:

but if he cant go I have a sick feeling in the pit of my tummy.

remember what losing Big Al's leadership did to the middle of our D.....

RaiderH8r
08-01-2008, 11:51 AM
First: Keep doubting the Duck. Mallard's the man. He has room to improve but he busts his butt to stay on the field. I like those guys.

Second: Nalen's most valuable asset is his noggin. He makes the line calls and on pins that are 75% that still ranks him in the top 10 centers in the league.

Third: Liberty Medical and Wilford Brimley are the keys to bring the Lombardi back to Denver. Cutler can have his Beetis supplies delivered right to his door and Liberty Medical will send the bill straight to his insurer. Did you guys know about this? Jay can have a better life thanks to Liberty. Awesome. Just awesome.

Finally: F the Raiders, F the Chiefs, F the Chargers. I am ready for some football.

Bladerunner
08-01-2008, 12:03 PM
Who did we draft for Meyers pick?? Barret? Meyers was okay, he was coached up and was at his ceiling in regards to how good he was going to be..I like the move of getting rid of him, especially with the draft and wiegmann signing.

I wouldn't really call Meyers trade a "move." He was tagged at a certain level, one which the Broncos thought no teams would bite on. The Broncos guessed wrong and the Texans scooped him up. I'm not saying whether it will end up for better or worse, but it was not in the Bronco's plans to be without Chris Meyers this season.

broncofan2438
08-01-2008, 12:26 PM
He'll be fine

PRBronco
08-01-2008, 12:39 PM
Third: Liberty Medical and Wilford Brimley are the keys to bring the Lombardi back to Denver. Cutler can have his Beetis supplies delivered right to his door and Liberty Medical will send the bill straight to his insurer. Did you guys know about this? Jay can have a better life thanks to Liberty. Awesome. Just awesome.




I lol'd at this.

Anyways, is Hamilton too far gone from his centre playing days to slide over? I mean I think Wiegmann's a decent player, but Hamilton has been Nalen's wingman for what, like 8 years now? He even wears the same god awful shorts. The transition to a world without Nails might go more smoothly with Hamilton at centre. Besides, we have quite a few promising guards at the moment. And one who's really really really fat.

BigPlayShay
08-01-2008, 02:39 PM
http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/2008/08/01/am-blog-day-8/

Casey Wiegmann continued to get reps at center with Tom Nalen out with a sore left knee. An MRI on Nalen’s knee came back negative.

2KBack
08-01-2008, 02:46 PM
I lol'd at this.

Anyways, is Hamilton too far gone from his centre playing days to slide over? I mean I think Wiegmann's a decent player, but Hamilton has been Nalen's wingman for what, like 8 years now? He even wears the same god awful shorts. The transition to a world without Nails might go more smoothly with Hamilton at centre. Besides, we have quite a few promising guards at the moment. And one who's really really really fat.

I was thinking that Ben at center is a better scenario as well. He's been here in the system for his whole career, and is younger than Weigman.

We've have gotten conflicting reports on Ryan Harris at RT, but word is he is getting more comfortable at the position. If he manages to hold it down satisfactorily Denver will have much better guard depth.

RaiderH8r
08-01-2008, 04:02 PM
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Kaylore
08-01-2008, 04:02 PM
BTW Nalen's MRI came back negative.

RaiderH8r
08-01-2008, 04:05 PM
BTW Nalen's MRI came back negative.

Slap that puppy on ice, rest, and roll him back out there. Nails eats rocks and sh!ts gunpowder.

Inkana7
08-01-2008, 04:17 PM
I just got a text saying Nalen's MRI came back negative.

EDIT: Damn you, Khan.

watermock
08-01-2008, 04:34 PM
Just in time

Hotrod
08-01-2008, 04:54 PM
BTW Nalen's MRI came back negative.

You mean to tell me we had a thread full of bull**** drama on the mane today..........thats really strange :)

BigPlayShay
08-01-2008, 05:00 PM
I just got a text saying Nalen's MRI came back negative.

EDIT: Damn you, Khan.

Hey I posted it 3 posts before kahn, damn me! :rofl: