John Lynch Leaving the Team

[kmonty]

Per text message from CBS4:

"Safety John Lynch is leaving the team. Details on CBS4 News at 6 and soon on cbs4denver.com"

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

****ter.

[Ratboy]

John Lynch is a bitch.

[hambone13]

http://cbs4denver.com/sports/john.lynch.broncos.2.783889.html

He's gone......

Shanahan, Lynch Agree He's Leaving Team

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DENVER (CBS4) ― John Lynch is exploring other options for his future and leaving the Denver Broncos, CBS4 News reports.

Lynch and coach Mike Shanahan met Wednesday afternoon. Lynch told Vic Lombardi that Shanahan gave Lynch permission to look for a new team, consider a broadcasting career or retire.

Lynch was not happy over his lack of practice time as he competes for a starting safety position. He took a pay cut to return for his 16th season as an NFL player. But he wanted an opportunity to be a full time starter at safety.

Lynch was not at practice Wednesday morning and had missed a team meeting Tuesday night.

Lynch told Lombardi he would be at Dove Valley Thursday to address the situation further.

Gary Miller reports other teams, like the San Diego Chargers, where Lynch is from, would be interested in him.

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

John Lynch is a b****.

He must have his reasons. He wouldn't be leaving unless he thought it was absolutely necessary.

[Sassy]

Damn....I'm officially bummed out! :(

[CHANGSTER]

Damn it!

[Ratboy]

Waaaah!!!! Waaaah!!!

He wasn't handed the starting job on a silver platter and he runs away.

[Ratboy]

He must have his reasons. He wouldn't be leaving unless he thought it was absolutely necessary.

I disagree. He wants to be handed the starting job and not willing to compete for it.

I love Lynch, but he's bitching out.

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

It obviously sucks that the team is losing a great leader, but if he can't find time on the field then it's time to move on. It happens to all the great ones - eventually they find the game has passed them. As one, I'd prefer he retire or choose broadcasting than go to a team like the Chargers.

[kmonty]

Lynch told Vic Lombardi that Shanahan gave Lynch permission to look for a new team, consider a broadcasting career or retire

Well it looks like we're not releasing him outright. They'll want to trade him.

God I just hope he doesn't end up a Charger. ****!

[Ratboy]

Well, I guess the only good thing is we are going to get something out of it!

Draft Pick? Middle Linebacker? RB?

[Dukes]

I'm bumed, but not surprised. I'll be pissed if the sparklers pick him up. I hope he just retires.

[CHANGSTER]

Hey Foxy, uhh I know you were having a great camp playing corner, but Ive got some news for you.

[Eldorado]

For melt down potential I give it a 6.5. Could go as high as 8.5 if the right people are involved.

[Sassy]

Any mod want to combine some threads? LOL!

[montrose]

Kahn called it

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2020121&postcount=6

[JWalker84]

That is crazy news. I know he lost a step but to be completely off the team is a surprise!

[boltaneer]

Gary Miller reports other teams, like the San Diego Chargers, where Lynch is from, would be interested in him.

I'd love to see him in a Bolt uniform (as a situational guy) but seeing as he wants to be a starter, I don't see it happening.

(BTW, shouldn't Shanahan force him to play as a backup or retire instead of giving him a release so he has an opportunity to go to the Chargers?) :flower:

[PRBronco]

Uggh, I don't think I want Marlon McCree starting :( Go Josh Barrett! Quickly! Learn!

[Los Broncos]

Damn it!

Another jersey down the drain.

Good luck John.

[hambone13]

I'd love to see him in a Bolt uniform (as a situational guy) but seeing as he wants to be a starter, I don't see it happening.

(BTW, shouldn't Shanahan force him to play as a backup or retire instead of giving him a release so he has an opportunity to go to the Chargers?) :flower:

Shanahan is no Ted Thompson......

[CHANGSTER]

Well it looks like we're not releasing him outright. They'll want to trade him.

God I just hope he doesn't end up a Charger. ****!

Man I hope your right. Trade em for a conditional 7th if you have to! just keep em out of the division.

Another wasted jersey.

[theAPAOps5]

Good luck John Lynch. Remember what Shannon Sharpe said. Its better to retire a year too early than a year too late.

[BABronco]

That is crazy news. I know he lost a step but to be completely off the team is a surprise!

judging by your user name that one was a complete surprise too eh

[montrose]

I think John may retire because I doubt he'll find a team - this late into camp - where he'd get more PT than he was going to get here.

[hambone13]

I think John may retire because I doubt he'll find a team - this late into camp - where he'd get more PT than he was going to get here.

I couldn't agree more. If Marlon McCree is beating him out out here in Denver, I doubt very seriously, he's going to SD. lol

[telluride]

The Pats generally take in these late careerists.

But I'd rather he go to the NFC if he's going anywhere.

[boltaneer]

Shanahan is no Ted Thompson......

Oh, you mean a situation like this could have been resoved very quickly and easily instead of being dragged though the media for weeks and weeks?

Wow...

[summerdenver]

As sad as it sounds it is probably better for both sides. I can easily see Lych going to NE or SD and winning another championshop or becoming a starter with a team like Det. On the other hand we are obviously rebuilding and ideally would like to give more reps to Barett and Hamza

[theAPAOps5]

The Broncos are expected to announce they are releasing him on Thursday per the Rocky Mountain News. So he will be free to sign anywhere if wants to play.

[scttgrd]

Damnit, I guess im not the only one who buy a guys jersey and seemingly dooms him.

[Meck77]

I said it last season and earlier today. I still don't understand why we pushed him so hard to come back when it was obvious his best days were behind him.

Actually I'm pleased by the news as it means we've found better, younger talent to fill his position. This is a young mans sport and let's face it Lynch was getting up there in years. He could still lay the wood but our team sucked last season. We need to make some real changes.

[400HZ]

[URL]
Gary Miller reports other teams, like the San Diego Chargers, where Lynch is from, would be interested in him.

That's what I said way back when when he was redoing his contract, but John didn't listen to me. He could have filled a nice niche as a dime linebacker. Maybe it's not the amount of playing time that he'd like, but at least he'd be on a contender. By now I think the Chargers have it covered with Paul Oliver moving to safety in coverage sets. Too late, John, you blew it!

[Sodak]

I like Lynch, and can't blame him for wanting to play. It's his passion. Good luck to him.

[Ian BDB]

This is sad news, when Pat Bowlen convinced John Lynch to come back, I figured it was for jersey sales... That's two Bowlen favorites (Lynch and Elam) in one season, I wonder if... Nah.

[SureShot]

Good look Lynch I loved watching play in the orange and blue.

[theAPAOps5]

That's what I said way back when when he was redoing his contract, but John didn't listen to me. He could have filled a nice niche as a dime linebacker. Maybe it's not the amount of playing time that he'd like, but at least he'd be on a contender. By now I think the Chargers have it covered with Paul Oliver moving to safety in coverage sets. Too late, John, you blew it!

No he wants a real contender. You know a team that can make it to the Superbowl. You guys barely can win a playoff game.

[mx_stiles13]

Why do we always release players instead of trading them for a draft pick? Ala Javon Walker. I'm sure we could have gotten at least a 5th + rounder for him as a condition pick.

[montrose]

From being at camp for a few days, I'd be surprised if we didn't see a lot of the 4-3-3-1 look with Champ, Dre' and Foxy at CB and Hamza playing the deep safety. Hamza can cover so much ground we can get away with it, and it allows us to get our best players on the field.

[kmonty]

I said it last season and earlier today. I still don't understand why we pushed him so hard to come back when it was obvious his best days were behind him.

Actually I'm pleased by the news as it means we've found better, younger talent to fill his position. This is a young mans sport and let's face it Lynch was getting up there in years. He could still lay the wood but our team sucked last season. We need to make some real changes.

I still think if John Lynch had a healthy neck last season we would have been a better defense. If he's healthy now, like he says he is, I was hoping for him to bounce back.

[montrose]

Gary Miller reported on the CBS 4 News that he spoke to a Chargers Assistant Coach who said they'd sign Lynch in a heartbeat.

[telluride]

Why do we always release players instead of trading them for a draft pick? Ala Javon Walker. I'm sure we could have gotten at least a 5th + rounder for him as a condition pick.

Any pick would be preferable to nothing. Let him go to the Chargers if he wants, but at least get something for him.

[theAPAOps5]

Gary Miller reported on the CBS 4 News that he spoke to a Chargers Assistant Coach who said they'd sign Lynch in a heartbeat.

Thats why its stupid to just release him. Why have him stay in the division. Dude is a head hunter at times and a just down right nasty hitter the rest. Don't want that missle flying at our team.

[Inkana7]

My gut tells me that this is for the best, but I'd puke if he became a Charger.

[Raider9175]

Per text message from CBS4:

"Safety John Lynch is leaving the team. Details on CBS4 News at 6 and soon on cbs4denver.com"

J Lynch should have retired two years ago. At least he had the common sense to leave before he had to face the Raiders on MNF. Will say it again Denver will be battling Chiefs to see which team is the worst in the AFc West.

[BlaK-Argentina]

Wow. I actually didn't want him on the field as a player but he will be missed as a leader.

[Popps]

This really sucks.

[Inkana7]

J Lynch should have retired two years ago. At least he had the common sense to leave before he had to face the Raiders on MNF. Will say it again Denver will be battling Chiefs to see which team is the worst in the AFc West.

You're a ****ing idiot. Go and never come back.

[BroncosinDC]

Damnit, I guess im not the only one who buy a guys jersey and seemingly dooms him.

Do me a favor and buy an LT jersey.

[SouthStndJunkie]

That's ok....time to get younger at the safety position.

[scttgrd]

Do me a favor and buy an LT jersey.

If I could keep my lunch down and my hands from shaking while I made the purchase I would certainly consider it.

[Atlas]

If he goes to SD look for the Broncos to expose him early and often.

I always thought Lynch was overrated. He was a good player but his last 3 Pro Bowl appearances have been off rep. He isn't in the same class as D. Smith, Atwater or Billy Thompson. I'm thinking Steve Foley was just as good. Lynch played on some great defenses and he can lay the wood and he is a great leader, but he isn't GREAT... He might be great within 5 yards of the LOS but average everywhere else. He was even missing a lot of tackles the last few years because he was so slow.

[Raider9175]

If he goes to SD look for the Broncos to expose him early and often.

Not with that broncos oline your not. ROFL! ROFL! ROFL!

[theAPAOps5]

Not with that broncos oline your not. ROFL! ROFL! ROFL!

Wait you are actually calling out another OL with the piece of **** you guys have. Now I know you have no clue about football.

[cabronco]

Dammit, I dont like this news. Lynch played a big role on this team, especially after Al Wilson's departure. They are going to miss his leadership. He was one of my favorite players, and would be tough to see him go anywhere, especially the Chargers..Just retire John. Good Luck & thanks for the memories.

[wolf754life]

don't question our franchise, don't question shannarat

[Boltergeist]

If he goes to SD look for the Broncos to expose him early and often.

I always thought Lynch was overrated. He was a good player but his last 3 Pro Bowl appearances have been off rep. He isn't in the same class as D. Smith, Atwater or Billy Thompson. I'm thinking Steve Foley was just as good. Lynch played on some great defenses and he can lay the wood and he is a great leader, but he isn't GREAT... He might be great within 5 yards of the LOS but average everywhere else. He was even missing a lot of tackles the last few years because he was so slow.


He won't be going to SD as a starter anyway. The ONLY way he fits with the Chargers is if he wanted to come home for a chance to play on a contender to end his career and was amenable to playing as a reserve behing Weddle / Hart at a serious discount rate. I would happily take Lynch over Gregory and Oliver as a backup safety.

I can't see Lynch playing for a crappy team like Detroit at this point just to be a starter. I'm sure SD would be his first choice as it's his home town, but I would guess he'll try to find a contending team that will give him the most playing time first.

[400HZ]

If he goes to SD look for the Broncos to expose him early and often.

He wouldn't ever see time at the safety position. Dime linebacker was the position possibly available.

[Ironlung]

To tell ya the truth, I'll miss John Lynch on Madden more than I'll miss him on sundays.

Maybe we should listen to Raiderqueeer up there, if anyone knows what fighting for the last spot in the west is like, its the raiders. You raider fans are trash, I feel sorry for your mother.

[Atlas]

He wouldn't ever see time at the safety position. Dime linebacker was the position possibly available.

I agree, so leaving the Broncos for a crap team like the Chuggers seems kind of ridiculous.

[400HZ]

I agree, so leaving the Broncos for a crap team like the Chuggers seems kind of ridiculous.

We'll see how ridiculous it seems to John Lynch.

[theAPAOps5]

He would start here. He wont start in SD. It would be opposite of what he wants.

[Inkana7]

We'll see how ridiculous it seems to John Lynch.

Indeed he will. Your line of thought goes "Lynch left because he wasn't getting a chance to be a 3-down Safety...so he'll come to SD for even less playing time."

Right. The contender angle doesn't quite work either since the dude has a ring already.

[400HZ]

Indeed he will. Your line of thought goes "Lynch left because he wasn't getting a chance to be a 3-down Safety...so he'll come to SD for even less playing time."

Right. The contender angle doesn't quite work either since the dude has a ring already.

San Diego is also his hometown.

[Cosmo]

Hmmm, John Lynch wants to play elsewhere, Denver grants his wish.

Brett Farve wants to play anywhere, GB doesn't let him do anything.

Even though it sucks to lose him, I do love our Broncos and our class.

[Inkana7]

San Diego is also his hometown.

So why didn't he go there in 04?

[400HZ]

So why didn't he go there in 04?

Because A.J. effed up and said he wasn't interested.

[Inkana7]

I really doubt Lynch will be playing Championship Piggyback at this point.

[broncofan7]

I wish him the best--I loved the way he got in Brady's face and then picked him off late sealing Brady's 1st EVER playoff loss! We appreciate your time in orange & blue--but it's time to retire John. As a caveat, My wife LOVES Lynch but after seeing him up close in Houston last December, (We were 3 rows up in the end zone), she said to me " His butt is saggy babe, it's time for him to retire" ----and she was pretty much spot on regarding his time left playing pro football--amazing the foresight that women have huh?

[Dedhed]

I think this is a great sign for the team going forward. I have the deepest respect for John, but it was clear last season that he was a liabilty in any capacity outside of run support. He'll be missed, but this a good sign that we've upgraded the safety position with more well rounded players there.

I'm starting to feel like the youth on this team is starting to come into their own and gel, and I feel like when they really hit their stride we're going to be a very good team. I think we're still a year from that point, but this year definitely has some potential.

[RunSilentRunDeep]

Nice guy, but let him go to the Chargers. Let's see him try to cover Scheffler or Aldridge

[broncofan2438]

You have to be kidding me!!!!!!!!!!

[Rigs11]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOO! ****!! I thought we we were gonna suck this year but now we are doomed.8-8

[minibronco]

He better not pull a Favre on us....

[theAPAOps5]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOO! ****!! I thought we we were gonna suck this year but now we are doomed.8-8

I hope there is sarcasm in this post. Because if not thats a tad bit of an overreaction.

[Inkana7]

I was about to say the same thing.

[Sassy]

This just seems strange to me that he would just leave. I wonder if he had something happen that made him look at retirement besides not getting some practice time in TC.

[theAPAOps5]

This just seems strange to me that he would just leave. I wonder if he had something happen that made him look at retirement besides not getting some practice time in TC.

He saw the writing on the wall. He came into camp with one idea and the coaches came in with another. Its got to be disheartening when you come to the realization that its not going to be the same.

[Inkana7]

This just seems strange to me that he would just leave. I wonder if he had something happen that made him look at retirement besides not getting some practice time in TC.

Maybe the coaching staff was going to demote him?

Campers, has McCree, Barrett or Manuel looked more impressive than Lynch?

[CHANGSTER]

Because A.J. effed up and said he wasn't interested.

You think he'll be interested now? Honest question

[theAPAOps5]

You think he'll be interested now? Honest question

According to local media a SD Coach/Rep said they would sign him in a heart beat. But the point is he wouldn't be talented enough to be starting for you guys and would be a nickle back. He can start here and then not play nickle. So it goes against his reasons for leaving. But the wildcard is that SD is home so maybe he will take the home town discount in playing time to end his career with you guys.

[kmonty]

Gary Miller reported on the CBS 4 News that he spoke to a Chargers Assistant Coach who said they'd sign Lynch in a heartbeat.

Sweet. Tampering. Take away their 3rd rounder, Goodell.

[SlipperyPete]

I bet KC is just as big an option for him as anywhere. They run the Tampa style defense and Herm Edwards and Lynch are best friends. He's not going to start there either, but it would seem to fit better for him than SD.

[400HZ]

You think he'll be interested now? Honest question

If it had happened before TC started, I'd say yes. At this point, I'd say no.

[Broncos4Life]

Damn it!

Another jersey down the drain.

Good luck John.

I know man. I just went and bought authentic for $60! It was 50% off! Its unheard of man. It was just that day that he decided to give it one more year. Man I got a steal.

Oh well. I'll just add it to the Plummer and Portis jerseys I have. Maybe wear them in about 10 years when they are considered "throwbacks".

[theAPAOps5]

I bet KC is just as big an option for him as anywhere. They run the Tampa style defense and Herm Edwards and Lynch are best friends. He's not going to start there either, but it would seem to fit better for him than SD.

Ok Denver is not a contender but KC really is a team in transition and could be abysmal this year. He would be stupid to go there.

Going to SD fits way more.

[Los Broncos]

I know man. I just went and bought authentic for $60! It was 50% off! Its unheard of man. It was just that day that he decided to give it one more year. Man I got a steal.

Oh well. I'll just add it to the Plummer and Portis jerseys I have. Maybe wear them in about 10 years when they are considered "throwbacks".

Mine is an EQT, I have my own now so no worries.

I will try to off it for a couple of bucks, someone may buy it.

[CHANGSTER]

According to local media a SD Coach/Rep said they would sign him in a heart beat. But the point is he wouldn't be talented enough to be starting for you guys and would be a nickle back. He can start here and then not play nickle. So it goes against his reasons for leaving. But the wildcard is that SD is home so maybe he will take the home town discount in playing time to end his career with you guys.

:TJnPopps: Hey Hey! whats with this "you guys" crap! I feel dirty. I demand an retraction!


I really hope he doesn't go there and make it so I can never wear my jersey again.

[backup qb]

well that sucks

[Broncojef]

He saw the writing on the wall. He came into camp with one idea and the coaches came in with another. Its got to be disheartening when you come to the realization that its not going to be the same.

I read that article a few days ago where Hamza got "promoted" off special teams and wondered if that meant the end for Lynch. Guess that wall writing was fairly direct at that point. I'm not afraid at all about him going to SD or any other rival. I watched him alot last year and just as others have stated (outside his experience/leadership) he is a detriment to the team at this point. I wish him the best and liked him as a person but I think the Broncos made the right decision. Seems like I saw him wearing a visor on the sidelines alot of the games anyway.

[Broncos4Life]

The sky is falling! LOL!

[broncos-rock]

Its all about the head set in the defensive players helmet. They told him he could'nt have it!!!

[theAPAOps5]

:TJnPopps: Hey Hey! whats with this "you guys" crap! I feel dirty. I demand an retraction!


I really hope he doesn't go there and make it so I can never wear my jersey again.

Ha sorry, didn't read the whole screen name and saw your location.

[colonelbeef]

He was once a great player and always seemed to be a stand up guy, but if he was beat out- and that seems to be the case, than so be it, I am not one to feel badly for a multimillionaire athlete who didn't see the writing on the wall and was unable to come to terms with the fact that he no longer warranted a starting position based solely on his reputation.

This is a business first, a sport second- and I love the fact that the Broncos are in the business of fielding the best team possible.

[RunSilentRunDeep]

Watching Jack "Mother F***ING" Williams play probably was the biggest sign to him that he no longer belonged in the league.

[SoDak Bronco]

Well..We haven't dominated the skins in a trade in a few years...guess we could probably get a 3rd out of them...Call up Synder..

[Broncochica]

Gary Miller reported on the CBS 4 News that he spoke to a Chargers Assistant Coach who said they'd sign Lynch in a heartbeat.

This totally sucks but please Lynch not the freakin Chuggers!!

[CHANGSTER]

Ha sorry, didn't read the whole screen name and saw your location.

Hah ahh its cool. I think I need to put something Bronco related in my profile.

[broncocalijohn]

As sad as it sounds it is probably better for both sides. I can easily see Lych going to NE or SD and winning another championshop or becoming a starter with a team like Det. On the other hand we are obviously rebuilding and ideally would like to give more reps to Barett and Hamza

Very sad day for me and many. NE would be interested but i think JL is too young for NE to pick up him. If he goes to another team, I wish him luck on finishing his career on a high note.... unless he is playing the Broncos then I wish a little bump on the road to the final stretch of his career.

[CHANGSTER]

If it had happened before TC started, I'd say yes. At this point, I'd say no.

What I'm sayin is, if he wasn't interested in 04 when your team wasn't as talented and Lynch was obviously a better player, why would he of been interested this year?

[Pseudofool]

Please let him go to San Diego; he's obviously a liability for this kind of thing to happen.

[ScottXray]

This totally sucks but please Lynch not the freakin Chuggers!!

truth.

I knew he was done watching him in the pro bowl Last February. He simply was too slow to get in on the play a lot. Sorry to see him go, and I hope he finds some team that needs him.....but not in our division.
Unfortunately we will miss his leadership , but hopefully DJ and the rest of the D learned enough to make up for it.

[400HZ]

What I'm sayin is, if he wasn't interested in 04 when your team wasn't as talented and Lynch was obviously a better player, why would he of been interested this year?

Well I don't know for sure what the thinking at Chargers HQ was, but conventional wisdom going into '04 was that San Diego was rebuilding and a one or two year rental player didn't make sense. Going into this season they are in it to win it so maybe there will be some interest.

[socalorado]

Well, i leave this place for half a day, and you people have pissed off a vet, and now he's quiting! @$$clowns!

kidding! kidding!
Well, this basically is called the "handwriting on the wall" situation.
I think we all knew it was over for John last year.
He couldnt make it through 1! game without a neck stinger or a bad back, or some kind of ailment that constantly kept him out of action and on the sideline. I remember many times the cameras panning to John on the sideline with his helmet off, and it became abundantly clear he just cant go anymore as a full time player.
Hey! i love John as a player as much as the next fan, i enjoyed watching him destroy the little turd Hall over the middle, and i loved watching him chase the Pu$$ie phyllis all over the end zone right after he helped break Brees chicken wing a play before!
Good Times! (Not the injury of course,that sucked for brees)
LOT OF GOOD TIMES!
Anyways, my Bronco hat goes off to a great player and a EVEN BETTER PERSON! Good luck JOHN!!! Thanks For all the memories!

[broncofan2438]

Well I don't know for sure what the thinking at Chargers HQ was, but conventional wisdom going into '04 was that San Diego was rebuilding and a one or two year rental player didn't make sense. Going into this season they are in it to win it so maybe there will be some interest.

Painfully, I have to agree

[hambone13]

Oh, you mean a situation like this could have been resoved very quickly and easily instead of being dragged though the media for weeks and weeks?

Wow...

LOL (That's suppose to be a "shocker" hand) Hilarious!

[hambone13]

Gary Miller reported on the CBS 4 News that he spoke to a Chargers Assistant Coach who said they'd sign Lynch in a heartbeat.

Are you sure he doesn't think he's a HB?Hilarious!

[lex]

Its not surprising. The guy is old. I dont blame him for going this route. He came back and gave it a shot, and likewise, Shanahan gave him a shot. No shame in that. I can see him ending up in Arizona or Houston.

[summerdenver]

Hmmm, John Lynch wants to play elsewhere, Denver grants his wish.

Brett Farve wants to play anywhere, GB doesn't let him do anything.

Even though it sucks to lose him, I do love our Broncos and our class.

+1

[UboBronco]

If Lynch signs with a contender, my guess is the Colts. Bob Sanders always gets hurt, and their backups are nothing to write home about.

I wish him well, thanks for your time, but even last year it was time to get younger, hence all of the people that wanted Kenny Phillips to be drafted this year. It is a younger persons game eventually, and even though I like John, it is time to move on.

[elsid13]

It very similiar to the Jerry Rice signing. I glad that Shanahan is willing to cut the ties with older vets sooner then to late.

[GoHAM]

I'm betting after a couple of days waiting for an offer he signs a one day contract to retire as a Buc and then heads to the broadcast booth.

Thanks for the memories and all the big hits, John, and good luck as long as it's not w/in the division.

[kamakazi_kal]

i hate to say it cause the guy has been all class but,

this is why shanny always fields a good team.

good luck 47

[theAPAOps5]

i hate to say it cause the guy has been all class but,

this is why shanny always fields a good team.

good luck 47

No, no, no didn't you get the message. This team is going to win 6 games. Wolf is adamant enough but not enough to accept a bet.

[brncobrett]

Well, i leave this place for half a day, and you people have pissed off a vet, and now he's quiting! @$$clowns!

kidding! kidding!
Well, this basically is called the "handwriting on the wall" situation.
I think we all knew it was over for John last year.
He couldnt make it through 1! game without a neck stinger or a bad back, or some kind of ailment that constantly kept him out of action and on the sideline. I remember many times the cameras panning to John on the sideline with his helmet off, and it became abundantly clear he just cant go anymore as a full time player.
Hey! i love John as a player as much as the next fan, i enjoyed watching him destroy the little turd Hall over the middle, and i loved watching him chase the Pu$$ie phyllis all over the end zone right after he helped break Brees chicken wing a play before!
Good Times! (Not the injury of course,that sucked for brees)
LOT OF GOOD TIMES!
Anyways, my Bronco hat goes off to a great player and a EVEN BETTER PERSON! Good luck JOHN!!! Thanks For all the memories!


Word for word!! that sums it all up right there...

[Requiem]

I said for a while that I didn't expect him to be anything more than a role player this year, and he could be a surprise camp exit. (On BF, not here.) John was nothing but a leader on and off the field and a standout man in the community who encouraged youth to do the best they could in sports and in the classroom. John, I hope you find what you're looking for in life -- whether it's going on for another Super Bowl ring or retiring.

Hall of Fame for John Lynch.

Good luck Johnny boy.

[socalorado]

I said for a while that I didn't expect him to be anything more than a role player this year, and he could be a surprise camp exit. (On BF, not here.) John was nothing but a leader on and off the field and a standout man in the community who encouraged youth to do the best they could in sports and in the classroom. John, I hope you find what you're looking for in life -- whether it's going on for another Super Bowl ring or retiring.

Hall of Fame for John Lynch.

Good luck Johnny boy.

Nailed it!

The rest of you show some motherf***ing LOVE!

[NFLBRONCO]

I like Lynch alot but, its time we move forward and go younger. He will sign in SD and try one more time. His best days are behind him for a team reloading. On a better team he'll look better then he actually is at this point in his career.

Goodluck John

[bpc]

Thanks for the time John. No ill-will at all even if he signs with the Chargers. I didn't know how much he could give us when he came here from the Bucs. He ended up going (whether he deserved it or not) to the pro bowl every season with Denver. He showed up every day, worked hard and cared about the team and this organization.

[Rigs11]

you people never ceaze to amaze me. When are you going to learn that shanny is the problem? How many great players do we have to lose before you realize this? And shame on you for gloating all over the players while they are here and completely disowning them when they decide to leave. You did it with plummer and now lynch, the guy can still play. why is it that belichick can be so successful with older players? I'm telling you people it's the freaking coach.

[Sprout]

John was nothing but a leader on and off the field and a standout man in the community who encouraged youth to do the best they could in sports and in the classroom. John, I hope you find what you're looking for in life -- whether it's going on for another Super Bowl ring or retiring.

Hall of Fame for John Lynch.

Good luck Johnny boy.
Nailed it!

The rest of you show some mother****ing LOVE!

Thanks for the time John. No ill-will at all even if he signs with the Chargers. I didn't know how much he could give us when he came here from the Bucs. He ended up going (whether he deserved it or not) to the pro bowl every season with Denver. He showed up every day, worked hard and cared about the team and this organization.

I agree 1000%.

As far as I'm concerned, John Lynch is as much a Bronco as he is a Buc. I'll gladly continue to wear my Lynch jersey, probably for years to come.

[Hogan11]

RETIRE JOHN'S NUMBER!!!!!

Okay, I'm just kidding with that. It's too bad, but his game has slipped over the past couple of seasons...farewell John.

[Killericon]

I'll miss him. A ****ing ton.

So...Rod Smith, Al Wilson, Keith Burns, John Lynch...Weren't those all our Captains back in 2005?

[Sprout]

I'll gladly continue to wear my Lynch jersey, probably for years to come.

Well, **** me... just remembered that that's the one that got misplaced somehow. I'm bummed. It will be Wilson's that will remain my mainstay.

[Meck77]

This is a business first, a sport second- and I love the fact that the Broncos are in the business of fielding the best team possible.

I think people lose sight of that. Last I read the Broncos were valued as a BILLION dollar business as a matter of fact. One aspect of Bowlen's business mentality that does bother me is the fact that Shanny knows he won't be fired. I've felt that has held this team back the last few years. Shanny should work under the same pressure as a rookie coming to camp IMO. Perform or get replaced. Period.

I guess I'm in the minority here but I like the fact we're making a transition to a younger more competitive team to build on with this move. Sure we lose some leadership but at the same time there is now a void for a younger player to fill. Anyone know how much Lynch was scheduled to earn this year?

[richpjr]

The one angle nobody has mentioned about signing with the Chargers is not his declining skills or leadership, but having the Charger coaching staff pick his brains (just like Shanahan is doing to McCree right now).

[Rock Chalk]

unreal.

Tribster, is that Ratboy? What a ****tard you are.

Honestly, John Lynch played several good years for us, was a classy dude everywhere. His time in Denver was up and he knew it, Mike Shanahan knew it, and now we all know it. Why hate on the guy?

You do realize that maybe he knwos he cant WIN a starting position here but still thinks he can elsewhere and someone of his class and tenure in this league deserves a chance.

Kudos to Mike for giving him that chance somewhere else.

Lynch may always be a Buc to me but I loved him as a Bronco and as a human being you will only find a small few his equal and an even small few his better.

[TDmvp]

unreal.

Tribster, is that Ratboy? What a ****tard you are.

Honestly, John Lynch played several good years for us, was a classy dude everywhere. His time in Denver was up and he knew it, Mike Shanahan knew it, and now we all know it. Why hate on the guy?

You do realize that maybe he knwos he cant WIN a starting position here but still thinks he can elsewhere and someone of his class and tenure in this league deserves a chance.

Kudos to Mike for giving him that chance somewhere else.

Lynch may always be a Buc to me but I loved him as a Bronco and as a human being you will only find a small few his equal and an even small few his better.


qft great all around post man ....

[Dos Rios]

So...Rod Smith, Al Wilson, Keith Burns, John Lynch...Weren't those all our Captains back in 2005?

Throw in Elam and Lepsis. After Nalen and Hamilton (and how many more combined seasons left?), the longest tenured player with the team is .... drumroll ... who can guess it? ... Mike Leach (6th year). Followed by the impressive veteran leadership of Cecil Sapp, Louis Green and Nate Jackson all going into their 5th years.

I've been a fan since the mid-70s and I can't remember a roster with less continuity. I like the direction of the last couple draft classes and think there's a promising core to build on, but this team is in serious, serious rebuilding mode.

[Meck77]

but this team is in serious, serious rebuilding mode.

coming off an embarrassing 6-10 season. I can't ever remember laughing at this team but I admit I did during the Detroit debacle. We've had the discussion time and time again but there is nobody left to fire, hardly any vets left as Rios just pointed out. It's on Shanny to kick this team in the ass now. We'll see.

[Requiem]

Besides playing time, I just got a call from Mike Klis and he said Jack Mother****ing Williams was played a huge role in Lynch's departure from the team. Something about a fight over the last bottle of Gatorade at the end of the morning sessions a day or so ago. You heard it here first. . .

[rovolution]

I'll miss him. A ****ing ton.

So...Rod Smith, Al Wilson, Keith Burns, John Lynch...Weren't those all our Captains back in 2005?

Keith and Rod are still with the team in some capacity (Keith is an assistant ST coach and Rod is like a mentor figure for Marshall and the other WRs, and he shows up occasionally)

but otherwise...yea your right.

Its amazing how much this team has transformed from the 2005 AFC Championship Game Host team to the young, inexperienced, and perhaps immature team of today.


The turnover in the NFL is just outstanding.

[Killericon]

Besides playing time, I just got a call from Mike Klis and he said Jack Mother****ing Williams was played a huge role in Lynch's departure from the team. Something about a fight over the last bottle of Gatorade at the end of the morning sessions a day or so ago. You heard it here first. . .

So the conversation between Shanahan and Lynch went something like this?

Shanahan: Hey, John, come on in and have a seat.
Lynch: I'd rather stand, actually. You know...What with...
Shanahan: Oh. OH! Sorry, I hadn't thought of that. Okay, so in light of yesterday's 'incident', we thought that it might be less awkward for you and for the team if you went somewhere else.
Lynch: I think that's pretty obvious, I mean the guy ACTUALLY...
Shanahan(Interrupting): Ah-ah-ah. I don't want to relive what happened, and I'm sure you don't either. So, we've quieted the press, and I'm sure none of the players who saw would ever dare whisper what they saw to the public, so we're going to play it off like you want a chance to compete elsewhere.
Lynch: Yeah, thanks a ton. I appreciate what you're doing for me...
Shanahan: It's the least we could do. Thanks for your time here, and I'm sorry it had to end so...Brutally.

[boltaneer]

Just connecting the dots, I would say the top three teams he would be interested in is San Diego (hometown), KC (Herm Edwards) and Indy (Tony Dungy). Maybe New England but Lynch has said that he wants to play closer to home (San Diego) so even Indy may be out of the picture.

The question is, would any of those teams be interested in signing him?

I don't see the Chiefs doing it because of their massive youth movement but maybe Herm throws that aside for his son's godfather.

AJ Smith is filling in the depth with some solid vets this offseason. Lynch would certainly fit the bill there. The question is would Lynch accept a role as a situational player?

Not sure how he would fit in Indy's D but he would certainly be great depth for them as well.

[Killericon]

Just connecting the dots, I would say the top three teams he would be interested in is San Diego (hometown), KC (Herm Edwards) and Indy (Tony Dungy). Maybe New England but Lynch has said that he wants to play closer to home (San Diego) so even Indy may be out of the picture.

The question is, would any of those teams be interested in signing him?

I don't see the Chiefs doing it because of their massive youth movement but maybe Herm throws that aside for his son's godfather.

AJ Smith is filling in the depth with some solid vets this offseason. Lynch would certainly fit the bill there. The question is would Lynch accept a role as a situational player?

Not sure how he would fit in Indy's D but he would certainly be great depth for them as well.

New England wouldn't want him. They have Rodney Harrison.

[BigPlayShay]

After Nalen and Hamilton (and how many more combined seasons left?), the longest tenured player with the team is .... drumroll ... who can guess it? ... Mike Leach (6th year).

You forgot Champ who is in his 10th year, or are you talking about guys that have always been Broncos?

[boltaneer]

New England wouldn't want him. They have Rodney Harrison.

I agree. I was speculating that he might have interest in going there but I doubt it since he wants to play close to the west coast.

If I had to bet, it would be between the Chargers, Chiefs and Colts.

[Killericon]

You forgot Champ who is in his 10th year.

Longest tenured with the team.

[telluride]

I'll miss him. A ****ing ton.

So...Rod Smith, Al Wilson, Keith Burns, John Lynch...Weren't those all our Captains back in 2005?

Yes, but it's 2008.

[hambone13]

unreal.

Tribster, is that Ratboy? What a ****tard you are.

Honestly, John Lynch played several good years for us, was a classy dude everywhere. His time in Denver was up and he knew it, Mike Shanahan knew it, and now we all know it. Why hate on the guy?

You do realize that maybe he knwos he cant WIN a starting position here but still thinks he can elsewhere and someone of his class and tenure in this league deserves a chance.

Kudos to Mike for giving him that chance somewhere else.

Lynch may always be a Buc to me but I loved him as a Bronco and as a human being you will only find a small few his equal and an even small few his better.

Accurate, Heartfelt, agreed....:notworthy

[Killericon]

Yes, but it's 2008.

...Thanks for that.

I was just noting how they're all gone.

[hambone13]

coming off an embarrassing 6-10 season. I can't ever remember laughing at this team but I admit I did during the Detroit debacle. We've had the discussion time and time again but there is nobody left to fire, hardly any vets left as Rios just pointed out. It's on Shanny to kick this team in the ass now. We'll see.

Wasn't Green Bay the youngest team in the league last year, (average age)?

[BigPlayShay]

Longest tenured with the team.

got it now.

[telluride]

...Thanks for that.

I was just noting how they're all gone.

I didn't mean to be snarky. I just meant that in football 3-4 years is an eternity. Especially for a player of Lynch's age.

[Killericon]

I didn't mean to be snarky. I just meant that in football 3-4 years is an eternity. Especially for a player of Lynch's age.

Fair enough.

[Northman]

It was time anyway. Im not shocked nor that upset by it.

[Northman]

The one angle nobody has mentioned about signing with the Chargers is not his declining skills or leadership, but having the Charger coaching staff pick his brains (just like Shanahan is doing to McCree right now).

Why? They are already kicking our asses without him. :D

[ScottXray]

I think people lose sight of that. Last I read the Broncos were valued as a BILLION dollar business as a matter of fact. One aspect of Bowlen's business mentality that does bother me is the fact that Shanny knows he won't be fired. I've felt that has held this team back the last few years. Shanny should work under the same pressure as a rookie coming to camp IMO. Perform or get replaced. Period.

I guess I'm in the minority here but I like the fact we're making a transition to a younger more competitive team to build on with this move. Sure we lose some leadership but at the same time there is now a void for a younger player to fill. Anyone know how much Lynch was scheduled to earn this year?

If I recall correctly he signed a one year deal for aout $750 K.

Good Luck John. You deserve it !

[Kaylore]

I feel bad about this, but I guess I saw it coming. I think deep down I knew he wasn't going to pull through. After the reports of guys like Jackson and Scheffler burning him a lot came in, a part of me knew something wasn't working there. I love John Lynch. He's from San Diego so maybe him finishing there would be good for him. I fully expect him to sign there if he doesn't retire. I don't think he's going to retire.:(

[fdf]

And shame on you for gloating all over the players while they are here and completely disowning them when they decide to leave. You did it with plummer . . .

I didn't hear a lot of gloating about Plummer when he was here. He was always a mixed bag and most fans knew it. When teams figured out how to contain the bootleg, he became a worse than average QB. Most fans here on this board knew it.

[BMF Bronco]

we'll mis him as a leader on the D side of the ball but if I recall there were many discussions of him losing a step or two last year, where I came to his defense against those who were saying that Abdulah was going to be taking his spot this year. Seems I get to eat a bit of crow.

With that being said, I honestly can't see him quitting the game, he has too much pride and heart.

[Play2win]

God bless Mike Shanahan and God bless John Lynch...

that is all.

[Kaylore]

http://media.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/content/img/photos/2008/07/30/S5BR_LYNCH_t613.jpg

:thumbsup:

[SouthStndJunkie]

We need a safety who is going to cause more turnovers.

Lynch had zero INTs in the last 2 years and only 3 total in his 4 years with the Broncos.

2005 was his best year with the team when he had 4 forced fumbles and 2 INTs. Since then.....0 interceptions and 2 forced fumbles in 2 years.

[ZONA]

Lynch is gonna get released because I'm guessing the Broncos did some calling around to see what was out there as far as trades go and there probably wasn't a whole lot. Lynch is a great guy but he clearly is way past his prime and probably not gonna start for anybody. He's a nice insurance policy for a winning team just in case one of their starters go down. Lynch can't see that and that's why he wants to leave. He still thinks he can start. Alot of guys just don't know when it's time (see Jerry Rice) to leave.

I think Foxworth will share time with somebody else. They probably will still want Foxworth man on man in 3 WR sets so that's when the other body will probably play safety and in conventional 2 WR sets, Foxworth will probably see his time at safety then.

[dekers]

Wow , first Al then Elam then Rod and now Lynch . Getting younger sure does suck. I Love watching new guys develop but i hate seeing my heroes get old. Good luck John.

[Beantown Bronco]

As much as I love Lynch, I was calling for this since October. His biggest strengths were his ability to make big hits and stick his tackles, but even those aspects of his game was slipping significantly last year. I'm sure the team noticed this in their offseason evaluation of all the game tape. Combine that with his losing another step, when he really didn't have any more steps to lose, and you have this. Not really a big shocker.

[Mediator12]

The first three years Lynch was in DEN, he was in the top 3 coverage safeties in the league. I still do not think people realize that. He allowed less than 6 yards a pass attempt during that time. He was NEVER a liability in coverage, until last year after he was hurt.

The problem is, he does not have the extended range to play solo deep coverage that they may want to do this year under Slowik when they blitz. They need better range in this scheme, and Lynch was never going to be that guy. He is a cover 2 or cover 3 Safety, he is never going to be in cover 1.

I hate this move on a personal level, but I completely understand both sides. One of my favorite players ever. You will be missed John ;D

[rovolution]

I didn't hear a lot of gloating about Plummer when he was here. He was always a mixed bag and most fans knew it. When teams figured out how to contain the bootleg, he became a worse than average QB. Most fans here on this board knew it.

this is the greatest truth typed on this thread

[Orange_Beard]

Sad news.

The time was coming, it is getting closer to the end for John as a player. As the Broncos get younger I thought it would be worth keeping John around....

If John has another season in him, I hope he gets a chance to play some where, I will always be a fan of 47.

[Tombstone RJ]

Best of luck to John and his family. If he wants to continue to play, I hope he gets to a contendar and gets another ring. He's all class and has demonstrated that with the Broncos on a daily basis.

Best wishes John and good luck with your future endeavors!

[Rohirrim]

Sad, but inevitable. It was great to have him on the team. He continued the tradition of great Bronco safeties.

[Peoples Champ]

what is the rule on wearing his jersey this year? I was thinking if he plays for another team, then wait until he retires. Should I not wear it if he is on another team? I was hoping he could retire a Bronco, but if that wont happen, whats the rule?

I want to wear it with Pride.

[Hotrod]

**** now I have to buy another jersey this year.

[rovolution]

what is the rule on wearing his jersey this year? I was thinking if he plays for another team, then wait until he retires. Should I not wear it if he is on another team? I was hoping he could retire a Bronco, but if that wont happen, whats the rule?

I want to wear it with Pride.

do what i do after i wasted $80 on a Javon Walker...Just buy throwbacks.


I'll be rocking my 1994 Shannon Sharpe at the two games im going to this season!!!!

[hambone13]

you people never ceaze to amaze me. When are you going to learn that shanny is the problem? How many great players do we have to lose before you realize this? And shame on you for gloating all over the players while they are here and completely disowning them when they decide to leave. You did it with plummer and now lynch, the guy can still play. why is it that belichick can be so successful with older players? I'm telling you people it's the freaking coach.

The Mane is sooooo much better than Bronco's Country because I don't have to read this ridiculous argument from 20 different JV caliber Bronco fans on every thread......

Let's see if Rigs'(y)11 is willing to answer 1 question. Because these posers never do:

"Who exactly would you replace him with? Oh and BTW, you don't get to rub the genie bottle and transport Bill Cower out of retirement, magically convince Belichick to take over here or make Dungy Mr. Bowlens next great love.....

I can't wait......

[Peoples Champ]

do what i do after i wasted $80 on a Javon Walker...Just buy throwbacks.


I'll be rocking my 1994 Shannon Sharpe at the two games im going to this season!!!!



Ya but Shannon Sharpe Retired a Bronco.

What if John Lynch retires on another team. That would make him have 11 years in Tampa, 4 years in Denver, and 1 year at wherever?

I will still wear it when he retires, but what about this next year?

[Hotrod]

I'm wearing mine I dont give a ****. Those ****ers are too expensive.......

[Orange_Beard]

Trade him for Farve.

[Mountain Bronco]

He is no longer capable of playing in pass coverage and it was apparent last year and only got worse this year. He would have been a liability. If he played teams would target him in the passing game.

Thanks for being a quality Bronco and good guy and enjoy broadcasting.

[Natedogg]

Trade him for Farve.

lulz

[mr007]

Lynch will be playing in San Diego this year, no doubt about it.

Think about it... he realizes he's lost a step and won't be the every down safety here in Denver. Not only that, but he's losing that job to an average player. John's a smart guy, so realistically he won't have that starting/everydown job elsewhere, so instead of staying in Denver and accepting that fate he's going back to his hometown to accept the same fate.

This way he'll get to be in San Diego, at his home, and still be able to contribute in some way which is a better situation for him than being miserable and away from home. Indy, Pats, and all other teams are highly unlikey, whether people like it or not he'll be playing for the Chargers this season.

[Mountain Bronco]

Lynch will be playing in San Diego this year, no doubt about it.

Think about it... he realizes he's lost a step and won't be the every down safety here in Denver. Not only that, but he's losing that job to an average player. John's a smart guy, so realistically he won't have that starting/everydown job elsewhere, so instead of staying in Denver and accepting that fate he's going back to his hometown to accept the same fate.

This way he'll get to be in San Diego, at his home, and still be able to contribute in some way which is a better situation for him than being miserable and away from home. Indy, Pats, and all other teams are highly unlikey, whether people like it or not he'll be playing for the Chargers this season.

Well hopefully he can make River's a little less of a bitch.

[HILife]

Say it isn't so John!!! I'm a little upset he is leaving just because they didn't hand him the starting job. Come on John you have to keep in mind you are not as young as you use to be. It's nature to lose a few of your skills and have someone younger step in. Your still a great safety your just best used during running downs. At this point in your career it would be best to stick to your strengths.

[Mediator12]

He is no longer capable of playing in pass coverage and it was apparent last year and only got worse this year. He would have been a liability. If he played teams would target him in the passing game.

Thanks for being a quality Bronco and good guy and enjoy broadcasting.

He was not the same after his injury, he had little success in coverage. Yet, teams only threw at him 16 times all last year. Hmmmmm, does that mean teams thought he was OK in coverage to not design more than one pass a game to go his way? Sure sounds like it to me.

I love the people who cry "liability in pass coverage". It just tells me you roll with whatever crap others spew out and fail to realize that Lynch has never been a "liability in coverage" until after he was injured and they are changing the scheme to more single deep safety's.

[bayarealightning]

Here are a few reasons why Lynch will not be a Charger:

1. The Chargers only bring in veteran free agents to fill a need until they can draft a replacement and bring him up to speed or allow a young player time to develop into a starter;

2. for the Chargers to get to the Super Bowl, they will have to beat the likes of Indy and/or N.E. The rules are set up for the passing game and you cannot have a liability in pass coverage in your secondary. The distinction between SS and FS are almost useless now when some teams are passing the majority of snaps;

3. the Chargers have plans for Oliver. Signing Lynch means that we will lose a roster spot for a back-up who does not play Special Teams. Last year we had two undrafted LBs on the practice squad - Nick Roach and Jyles Tucker. Nick Roach was snatched up by the Bears and then the Chargers elevated Tucker to the 53 man Roster. Jyles Tucker is showing that he is going to be a player. The Chargers, under A.J. Smith, has done well with undrafted free agents and that will be one less player to develop by having Lynch on the squad; and

4. the Chargers already have two very good secondary coaches (both former NFL players) and we will not expend a roster spot just for Lynch's leadership.

John Lynch will not be a San Diego Charger. His best days are behind him and A.J. Smith not only looks to the season at had, but he also plans for the future of the team. Lynch for one year does not make any sense!

[Rigs11]

The Mane is sooooo much better than Bronco's Country because I don't have to read this ridiculous argument from 20 different JV caliber Bronco fans on every thread......

Let's see if Rigs'(y)11 is willing to answer 1 question. Because these posers never do:

"Who exactly would you replace him with? Oh and BTW, you don't get to rub the genie bottle and transport Bill Cower out of retirement, magically convince Belichick to take over here or make Dungy Mr. Bowlens next great love.....

I can't wait......

Just because you don't have someone to replace him with does not give him a free pass.Shannahan took a 13-3 team one win away from a superbowl and dismantled it.His playcalling is stale.How many times will the defensive coordinator get the boot?Hell even the GM got the boot. I would love to see Gruden here.Now here is a question for you. how much longer does shanny have? And why?Aside from the 2 superbowls that he won 10 years ago?

[Beantown Bronco]

How many times will the defensive coordinator get the boot?

And not one of them has become a successful defensive coordinator anywhere else since they left here. That's telling.

Hell even the GM got the boot.

And nobody's come knocking on his door with an offer of employment or even an interview. That's telling.

[400HZ]

Here are a few reasons why Lynch will not be a Charger:

1. The Chargers only bring in veteran free agents to fill a need until they can draft a replacement and bring him up to speed or allow a young player time to develop into a starter;

2. for the Chargers to get to the Super Bowl, they will have to beat the likes of Indy and/or N.E. The rules are set up for the passing game and you cannot have a liability in pass coverage in your secondary. The distinction between SS and FS are almost useless now when some teams are passing the majority of snaps;

3. the Chargers have plans for Oliver. Signing Lynch means that we will lose a roster spot for a back-up who does not play Special Teams. Last year we had two undrafted LBs on the practice squad - Nick Roach and Jyles Tucker. Nick Roach was snatched up by the Bears and then the Chargers elevated Tucker to the 53 man Roster. Jyles Tucker is showing that he is going to be a player. The Chargers, under A.J. Smith, has done well with undrafted free agents and that will be one less player to develop by having Lynch on the squad; and

4. the Chargers already have two very good secondary coaches (both former NFL players) and we will not expend a roster spot just for Lynch's leadership.

John Lynch will not be a San Diego Charger. His best days are behind him and A.J. Smith not only looks to the season at had, but he also plans for the future of the team. Lynch for one year does not make any sense!

It would be Lynch instead of Steve Gregory probably, and there is really no comparison between the two in terms of on-field ability. Gregory plays STs, but it's not like he's a standout or anything. I don't think the roster spot is an issue. The issue is whether the coaches want Oliver at safety and Weddle at Monster in coverage sets, or if they want Weddle at safety and Lynch at Monster. That's how I see it. Personally, I've always been a big John Lynch fan and would cheer the signing, but at this point I bet the Chargers have moved on with the personnel they have. If Lynch had quit Denver a week earlier he would garner more attention. He'll catch on somewhere I'm sure, but probably not San Diego.

[Mediator12]

And not one of them has become a successful defensive coordinator anywhere else since they left here. That's telling.

Greg Robinson took a college head coaching Job and Failed, Ray Rhodes took the Seahawks to the Superbowl in 2005, and Larry Coyer (Assistant head Coach) Helped TB rise back into the top 5 Defenses last year after they dropped out of the top 10 for the first time since 1997.

I think you need to reconsider that Idea as a good reason they were fired.


And nobody's come knocking on his door with an offer of employment or even an interview. That's telling.


Yeah, its called getting fired and not being well liked throughout the league. No one is going to go out on a limb to hire Sundquist, because he has no one to support him.

[bayarealightning]

It would be Lynch instead of Steve Gregory probably, and there is really no comparison between the two in terms of on-field ability. Gregory plays STs, but it's not like he's a standout or anything. I don't think the roster spot is an issue. The issue is whether the coaches want Oliver at safety and Weddle at Monster in coverage sets, or if they want Weddle at safety and Lynch at Monster. That's how I see it. Personally, I've always been a big John Lynch fan and would cheer the signing, but at this point I bet the Chargers have moved on with the personnel they have. If Lynch had quit Denver a week earlier he would garner more attention. He'll catch on somewhere I'm sure, but probably not San Diego.
A roster spot is important when you are talking about bringing in a player for one year and that is not because of injury or suspension (see Newberry and Smith). Hart is the starter opposite Weddle. Hart had a very good year last year and he had 5 interceptions. There is no such position of Monster when you are facing the likes of Indy and N.E. Your Safeties have to be able to cover. The Chargers need production, not a name. Back-ups have to contribute. John Lynch WAS a great player.

[400HZ]

A roster spot is important when you are talking about bringing in a player for one year and that is not because of injury or suspension (see Newberry and Smith). Hart is the starter opposite Weddle. Hart had a very good year last year and he had 5 interceptions. There is no such position of Monster when you are facing the likes of Indy and N.E. Your Safeties have to be able to cover. The Chargers need production, not a name. Back-ups have to contribute. John Lynch WAS a great player.

Monster is the position that Eric Weddle played last year when he lined up at linebacker in dime and some nickle sets...the same position that is potentially up for grabs with Weddle moving to fulltime safety. He played 100% of the snaps against Indy and at least 50% against NE, so don't say that Monster isn't an important position. Giving up a player like Steve Gregory isn't a big deal when you have the opportunity to add a player like Lynch. Lynch wouldn't be chasing WRs downfield, he'd be mostly supporting the run and playing shallow zone coverage. I wouldn't advocate bringing him in to play fulltime safety or just being a reserve, but as a Monster back, I think he'd be in a position to maximize his strengths without his weaknesses being overly exposed.

[bayarealightning]

Monster is the position that Eric Weddle played last year when he lined up at linebacker in dime and some nickle sets...the same position that is potentially up for grabs with Weddle moving to fulltime safety. He played 100% of the snaps against Indy and at least 50% against NE, so don't say that Monster isn't an important position. Giving up a player like Steve Gregory isn't a big deal when you have the opportunity to add a player like Lynch. Lynch wouldn't be chasing WRs downfield, he'd be mostly supporting the run and playing shallow zone coverage. I wouldn't advocate bringing him in to play fulltime safety or just being a reserve, but as a Monster back, I think he'd be in a position to maximize his strengths without his weaknesses being overly exposed.
Well, think of it this way, the Broncos signed McCree; Lynch was told that he could compete for playing time fully; TC starts and Lynch is only in on early downs; McCree gets the snaps in the later downs and the Dime packages.

That says to me that the Broncos think that McCree gives them better skills in the passing game. We released McCree who wanted to go somewhere where he could start. Lynch wants to go somewhere where he has a chance to play. We could have just as easily kept the better defender in McCree who could play special teams than bring in Lynch who will sit the bench for a year and take up a roster spot. Logically speaking and looking at the team needs, it looks like a long shot that we would bring in Lynch. I know that he is a name player, but he is limited in what he could bring to the team. Hart is an every down Safety. Only if there is an injury, would Lynch be viable, and at that he is limited.

Edit: In the dime package, your safeties still have to cover, thus, it is still a question of coverage skills.

[400HZ]

Well, think of it this way, the Broncos signed McCree; Lynch was told that he could compete for playing time fully; TC starts and Lynch is only in on early downs; McCree gets the snaps in the later downs and the Dime packages.

That says to me that the Broncos think that McCree gives them better skills in the passing game. We released McCree who wanted to go somewhere where he could start. Lynch wants to go somewhere where he has a chance to play. We could have just as easily kept the better defender in McCree who could play special teams than bring in Lynch who will sit the bench for a year and take up a roster spot. Logically speaking and looking at the team needs, it looks like a long shot that we would bring in Lynch. I know that he is a name player, but he is limited in what he could bring to the team. Hart is an every down Safety. Only if there is an injury, would Lynch be viable, and at that he is limited.

Edit: In the dime package, your safeties still have to cover, thus, it is still a question of coverage skills.

I understand your point, but Lynch wouldn't compare to McCree in San Diego's defense because he'd only be playing the nickle/dime LB spot. Like I said, his responsibilities would be run support and short range coverage - areas that Lynch still excels in and areas that McCree sucked at. If we were talking about adding a player to play purely safety, I would be 100% against Lynch. I'm talking about adding him strictly as the Monster.

[Inkana7]

Charger fans discussing Charger topics on the Mane. Awesome.

[chaz]

Charger fans discussing Charger topics on the Mane. Awesome.

Ha!

[broncofan2438]

I think he hangs it up and broadcasts for CBS

[theAPAOps5]

Per CBS4 he was told a week ago he wouldn't be the starter. He told coach he would practice while he thought about it. But it didn't feel right.

[boltaneer]

I don't believe a roster spot is the issue for the Chargers here. They have room to add another DB. Don't teams often carry 10 DBs?

Here's the TC roster:

CB

Jammer
Cromartie
Antoine Cason
Paul Oliver
Cletis Gordon
DeJuan Tribble

S

Eric Weddle
Clinton Hart
Steve Gregory
Tra Battle
Brian Bonner

Battle and Bonner are camp fodder at safety, though Battle might go to the practice squad again. Dribble probably goes to PS or doesn't make the team. They do have some versatility with a few guys who are CB-S tweeners (Weddle/Gregory/Oliver) but hey still definitely could use an additional safety.

The more I look at the depth chart and the more I think about it, signing Lynch makes a whole lot of sense.

[Vegas_Bronco]

All I can say is:

Lynch doesn't like people 'taking his chain'...in fact, 'It's Trickey' this NFL if you don't know how to dance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C2b8XWJnfE

[broncofan2438]

Honestly the more and more I think about this, it sucks. Watching that video on db.com really makes it all sad that he is leaving. This is going to suck...no leadership and guys that are very young.........great

[Vegas_Bronco]

Honestly the more and more I think about this, it sucks. Watching that video on db.com really makes it all sad that he is leaving. This is going to suck...no leadership and guys that are very young.........great

I agree, but it was his choice...no one else made that decision. I look forward to the team getting better and better....it's going to take a bit longer for sure w/out him.

[Natedogg]

If lynch was going to play "half time" for any team, it would be Denver.

I bet he goes to the booth.

I doubt he'll play "monster" for the chuggers half time.

Worst case, as i see it, is he "pulls an Atwater" and plays crappily for a crappy team in his twilight.

[Rigs11]

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[Sassy]

Lynch’s decision catches Broncos by surprise
By PAT GRAHAM, AP Sports Writer
2 hours, 38 minutes ago

Buzz Up Print
Denver Broncos safety John Lyn…

AP - Jul 31, 5:36 pm EDT NFL Gallery ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP)—John Lynch wasn’t content playing a part-time role, not after four straight Pro Bowl seasons.

The Denver Broncos couldn’t promise him the playing time he was seeking.

So Lynch and the Broncos agreed to amicably separate.

“He wants to play every down,” coach Mike Shanahan said Thursday. “Heck, I can’t blame him. I’m not going to say that he can’t.”

It’s just not going to be with Denver, where’s he’s spent the last four seasons.

Lynch was promised nothing more than an opportunity to compete for a starting safety job when he took a pay cut in the offseason. But with the emergence of Marlon McCree, Lynch didn’t see much time in the nickel or dime packages during the first week of training camp.

He tried to live with it, even accept his reduced role, and soon realized he couldn’t.

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“I’ve always been one to follow my gut and follow my heart with decisions, and when I’ve done that things have worked out pretty darn good for me,” Lynch said. “My gut was telling me that this wasn’t the right situation.”

Lynch, who’s entering his 16th season, is going to explore his options, possibly signing with another team if he deems it a good situation.

“I still have a great passion for the game of football,” Lynch said. “I still very much love it in my heart. I still feel like I can compete at a Pro Bowl level, but the situation is going to have to be right. I’m not going to just play for any team or any situation.”

Shanahan is supportive of Lynch and won’t stand in the way.

“I’ll be rooting for John as long as he’s not in the AFC West,” Shanahan said with a grin. “If (he) is, I’ll be rooting for him as a person, just not in the games we play.”

The Lynch saga has been a surprise for the Broncos.

Hamza Abdullah glanced to his left before a passing drill Thursday, failing to spy his fellow defender. Abdullah was taken aback before reality suddenly hit him: Lynch was no longer around.

“It was a weird feeling,” Abdullah said.

Champ Bailey knew the nine-time Pro Bowler was discontent with his playing time, but not to this degree.

“I didn’t see that coming,” Bailey said. “But I understand how competitive he is and how much pride he has about what he does on the field.”

McCree understood Lynch’s reasons for wanting to leave as well.

“It’s how life is in the NFL,” said McCree, who started all 16 games with San Diego last season. “John will go on and continue to have much success. I’m sure if he wants to play, he can still play at a high level.”

Lynch’s decline in playing time began last season as he started to come off the field on passing downs.

Still, he played every snap over the last three games and Broncos owner Pat Bowlen eventually talked him into signing a cut-rate deal in the offseason. Lynch was even allowed to train on his own back in San Diego instead of with the Broncos.


Denver Broncos safety John Lyn…

AP - Jul 30, 7:55 pm EDT
He came into camp knowing there were no guarantees, Shanahan even leveling with him during organized team activities in June.

“John came up to me and said, ‘Mike, if the season started today, where do you see me?”’ Shanahan said.

Shanahan consulted with his coaches and told Lynch he’d be a part of the base defense, but wouldn’t be in the nickel package, resulting in a dip in playing time.

Lynch reported to training camp, but as the practices wore on, he wasn’t pleased with the amount of time he was receiving.

“He came back to me and said, ‘I’m a guy that’s really got to be involved … I just don’t like the role I’m in right now,”’ Shanahan said.

Shanahan didn’t try to talk him out of the decision.

“I don’t think I’ve ever been with more of a pro than a guy like John Lynch,” Shanahan said. “He’s the type of guy that you look at in the future and say, ‘Could this guy be the president of the United States?’ He’s that type of guy. I felt like I owed it to him, to look at his options, football, retirement, whatever he wants to do.”

Because of Lynch’s burning desire to play again, Broncos cornerback Domonique Foxworth can envision Lynch hooking up with another team.

“He didn’t go to all those Pro Bowls just because they liked him,” Foxworth said. “He’s a player and I’m sure he can fit in somewhere.”

Abdullah said the reason he’s the starting strong safety is because of Lynch’s influence.

“If you poll all the starting safeties in the NFL, I guarantee they’re going to mention John Lynch as one of the top five safeties of all time,” Abdullah said. “I guarantee you. He set the standard.”


THANKS JOHN!!!

[Sassy]

All class!

Complete Comments From Lynch, Shanahan

The following are Lynch's complete comments on Thursday, as provided by the Denver Broncos:

"I would like to start out by saying I'm going to pull a [Brett] Favre on you. I've changed my mind; I'm coming [back]. No, I'm not going to do that. It's been a real tough last 48 hours coming to this decision in my heart. What simply happened is the situation just didn't feel right. I've always been one to follow my gut and follow my heart with decisions, and when I've done that things have worked out pretty darn good for me. My gut was telling me that this wasn't the right situation, so I went up and had a great conversation with [Head Coach] Mike [Shanahan]. We talked about it, and I told him what I was thinking. He gave me some time to go home and think about it with my family. There in those 24 hours I tried to rationalize all the reasons to stay here, but my gut kept telling me that the situation just wasn't right and I couldn't make it right.

"I want to thank Mike, [President and Chief Executive Officer] Pat Bowlen and the Broncos' organization. The last four years here have been wonderful. As I told Mike, I only have one regret. When I came here I looked him in the eye and told him we were going to win a championship. We didn't get that done, and I'm sorry for that. But I also looked him in the eye and said I gave him everything I could in terms of trying to do that. Everybody here has just been wonderful to me. The fans have accepted us—Myself on the field and my family off the field. I came here with a lot of fear four years ago in a new situation and now we're seriously considering raising our family here and calling it home.

"Where do I go now? I'm going to explore all my options. Mike has allowed me to do that. I asked him to set me free so I could explore my options and I'm going to start the process of doing that. What are those options? Those options are to continue playing someplace else. I still have a great passion for the game of football. I still very much love it in my heart. I have prepared myself extremely hard this year and I feel like I'm in great shape. My health is tremendous. I still feel like I can compete at a Pro Bowl level. But the situation is going to have to be right. I'm not just going to play for any team or any situation. The situation is going to have to feel right, and if one does present itself, I'll consider it. If not I will consider other options. I got an e-mail this morning and already had my first job offer. Someone called and asked if I would coach fall baseball for our 9-year-old son. So I have one job offer, and I feel good about that.

"I would just like to thank everybody for the great years here. I wish this team all the best. I really like the feel of this team, and that's what made this an extra-hard decision. This team has a great chemistry to it and I think they are going to do very well. I wish them, I wish Mike, I wish everybody the best."

The following were Lynch's responses to reporters' questions:

On whether the 'right situation' is based on playing time
"No, it's not just based on playing time. I don't know exactly what that will be. I'll talk to a team. I think I have a pretty good gauge of a situation that would be right. I'll consider my family, I'll consider everything. If one presents itself, it feels good and it feels like something where I would put forth the commitment [then I will do it] because I only know one way of doing it and that's full-speed ahead. So I'm going to make sure it's right, but we'll see. We'll start that process."

On his conversations with teammates
"I haven't had a lot of conversations with the guys in the locker room. It all kind of happened suddenly—I left. Yesterday I had an opportunity to go out with about six of the guys. Hopefully they came back to the meetings on time and in good shape. We had a nice time, just kind of celebrating our time together and wishing them the best of luck. I wanted to explain to them what had gone down. I'll have an opportunity in the coming days to talk to my teammates."

On what has changed since his decision in March to play for the Broncos this season
"First of all, I don't regret the fact that I spent my whole offseason working for this. I put my whole heart into it. It was a different situation for me. I had somewhat come at peace with even the role of the playing time and that's a hard thing for me to do. I'm a prideful guy, and it was hard for me to let go of that, but I at some point had a level of comfort and peace with that. But it went even beyond that. As I was telling [my wife] Linda, the one thing I've always done is when I stepped in between those lines is I've always enjoyed myself in the locker room. I've always enjoyed myself when I've stepped in between the lines and the last couple days at the practice field I wasn't doing that and that's when I knew that something had to change."

On what was wrong with the current situation
"I came to grips with [not being a full-time player]. I had reached some level of peace, but it probably was that. It just wasn't sitting right. Like I said, I just knew that, you know, why prolong the situation? I felt like for the team's best interest and for my best interest, it was time to make a change."

On what had been different about his 16th training camp
"I tried to take an approach coming into camp this year where I was just going to enjoy every opportunity to get on that field and every second. I think it was different in that, for the last 14-15 years, being a starter in this league the expectations for the organization are that I would play at a Pro Bowl level and help carry a team. This year, I think I was treated very fairly, but there really were no expectations. So it was a different scenario for me. I think I handled it well. I prepared myself, got to an incredible fitness level and I was ready to play. But like I said, it just ultimately wasn't the right situation."

The following are Mike Shanahan's complete comments on Thursday, as provided by the Denver Broncos:

"I spoke to John after our last OTA day, and after our last OTA day John came up to me and said, 'Mike, if the season started today, where do you see me?' I said, 'John, to be honest with you I don't think in those terms with the OTA days. I can evaluate that after our first three preseason games and obviously our summer camp, but since you asked me…' I told him I would go back and talk to our coaches, look at all the OTA days and I'd tell him the next day at our bowling derby if we were starting today exactly where we would be.

"I sat down with John and I said, 'Hey you would be our first team safety, but you wouldn't be in our nickel package.' When I shared that with John, he said, 'Well Mike, give me about a week if you would to come to a decision if that was something I could deal with.' He said, 'If I don't call you within a week than that means I have decided to come back and give it my best shot even if I don't play nickel. I am going to give you everything I got and do everything I have been doing since I became a pro.' Knowing John, he was going to do exactly that.

"Then after Tuesday's practice he came up to me and he said, 'Hey Mike, I need about 24 hours to think about what I want to do.' He said, 'Right now, not playing nickel and not playing dime, I am kind of losing concentration with what you are doing even with your base defense.' Therefore, it's kind of tough for me. I said, 'Hey, take as much time as you want.' He came back to me and said, 'I am the kind of guy that really had to be involved. I've been a Pro-Bowl player and a consummate pro and I kind of don't like the role that I am in now and it is very tough on me.' I said, 'John, you have given everything to this organization that a guy could give, and if you think it is not going to work out here on an every down basis and you would like to look at other opportunities, I am not going to stand in your way. You have given me too much and you have been too much of a pro.'

I don't think that I have ever been with more of a pro then with a guy like John Lynch. He is the type of guy you look at in the future and say, 'Hey, this guy could be the president of the United States.' He is that type of guy. I felt like I owed it to him to let him look at his options whether it's football or retirement, whatever he wants to do. He has given everything that he could give in the four years that he has been here. When a guy is not happy, it doesn't feel right and I want to give him his opportunity to do what he thinks is right for his future."

The following were Shanahan's responses to reporters' questions:

On whether he was surprised by John Lynch's decision
"To be honest with you, when I talked with him after OTA days you could see how important it was. I talked to John and told him the reason he is so successful is because he has that mindset. He wants to be out there every down but if he is not, he would be such a great teacher toward the young guys but wouldn't be happy missing first and second down. What has made John a Hall of Fame player is that he has that type of mindset. He wants to play every down and I can't blame him and I'm not going to say that he can't.

I had to give him an honest evaluation of where we were and what we thought as a staff. One thing you never do to a veteran player is never lie to them. You tell them exactly where they stand so he can see his role. If he accepts that you can do some good things and if he doesn't, then the best you can do sometimes is part ways. If you are honest with each other than you have a chance for good things to happen and I wish him well."

On how the Broncos will replace Lynch
"You never find players like John Lynch from a leadership standpoint. They are one in a million. Like I said, he has everything you look for in a person and in a player. It is tough but we have some excellent players that are out there right now that are competing. Like I said to John, 'It's hard for me to say that you are not going to be the starter in our nickel package.' I said, 'I have to be honest, right now you would not be.' He believes that there are other opportunities out there for him. If he gets one, I will be rooting for John as long as he is not in the AFC West. If it is, I will be rooting for him as a person just not in the games we play him."

On what he will remember most about Lynch
"I think that John is probably the most well-rounded person I have been with. You can talk about football, you can talk about leadership, you can talk about family and community. He is everything that you look for in a guy regardless of football. Once he is done with football, he will be the best at whatever he does because he is that type of guy. He has charisma, he has class and he has his priorities in order, and that is why it is tough to let a guy like that go. I always believe you have to be honest with people. The way you lose friendships with people, especially as they get older, is by not telling them the truth. I showed him what we thought of as a staff and what his role would be and we accepted his decision as well. That is why we released him, obviously with no compensation. "

On Lynch's character
"Well like I said, that's the reason why he is a Hall of Fame player, the reason why he has been to nine Pro Bowls, the reason why he has won a Super Bowl, the reason why he was the leader in Tampa and a four-year captain here. He is a true pro, but you have to be honest with him to and you have to tell him how we see his role. What has made John the type of player he is, is that he believes that he is the type of player that is going to go out there and do it and I am not going to question it. That is where we are at right now."

On whether he tried to talk Lynch out of his decision
"What I have to do is tell him what I see his role is. I told him, 'That is where I see you now.' I said, 'At the end of training camp you could be first team safety and on the first team nickel or you can be a second team safety and a second team nickel.' I said, 'I don't know, the only way we are going to know is how you practice on a day-to-day basis and as you get older, we are all evaluated that way and that is what I have to do with these players.' With these players, you come in the locker room every day. I don't care if you are a first round draft choice, a Pro-Bowl player, I don't care what you have done, we are going to go out there and compete every day and the best people are going to play. When you have a guy like John who is year in and year out when you lose a guy like that it is tough. I shared that little bit of conversation that I shared with you with our players last night. Any time they lose a guy like John, they deserved to know exactly the conversation I had with him a month or month and a half before. One thing about John Lynch, whatever he does, he is going to be the best at it."

On whether he could sense Lynch's frustrations

"John is such a pro that you really don't know. I knew John would never be happy not playing every down and that is what has made John, John. Some players accept the role that if they are not starters then they can work with the young guys and build up there game and some guys are so competitive they want to be out there every down. If not, they would rather retire and I respect that or they want to go on another team where they can (start) do that. John is going to check out his options and the great thing about it is that he is healthy and he has worked his rear end off. You have a guy that takes care of himself. As I said, I wish him well."

On the amount of reps Lynch received during training camp

"Any time you are not on the first unit, you don't get a lot of reps. It's like the second and third players don't get a lot of reps. You are evaluated every day with you base packages as well as your nickel packages. John shared with me, he said, 'Hey, I have lost some of my concentration, even in our base packages I have made some mistakes that I never make just because I was thinking of the disappointment of not playing all the time.' I understand his thought process and I respect it, and that is one of the reasons why we released him."

On losing two veteran leaders in Lynch and Rod Smith

"Rod has been gone for awhile. He got hurt, and I think everybody knows his injury and when it occurred. Even though retirement was just a short time ago, Rod hasn't been with us. His presence hasn't been out on the field. I think John said it best—'If you're not out there playing, it's hard to lead. Rod Smith, even though he was a consummate pro, it's hard to be a leader when you are not out there. Guys have to step up and take leadership roles. We have a young football team and some older vets. It will be interesting to see who will step up and take the leadership role."

[SouthStndJunkie]

I will get slammed for this post.....but I think it has some merit.

In some ways, Lynch kind of quit on the team.

If a player like Tony Scheffler asked to be released because he was working with the 2nd team, we would be all over him.

I know he wanted to start and play every down, but as a true team player he could have gone out there in the base package and did his thing and been the vocal leader that we needed.

He had to realize that as a soon to be 37 year old safety, that the Broncos were not going to trot him out there on name recognition alone. I know he thinks the Broncos did not give him a fair shot, but they know his limitations.

[broncofan2438]

Damn this still sucks

[NFLBRONCO]

I will get slammed for this post.....but I think it has some merit.

In some ways, Lynch kind of quit on the team.

If a player like Tony Scheffler asked to be released because he was working with the 2nd team, we would be all over him.

I know he wanted to start and play every down, but as a true team player he could have gone out there in the base package and did his thing and been the vocal leader that we needed.

He had to realize that as a soon to be 37 year old safety, that the Broncos were not going to trot him out there on name recognition alone. I know he thinks the Broncos did not give him a fair shot, but they know his limitations.

Dear John,

I figured you were aware of clues we left this offseason. The Denver Broncos would have never signed two players at S position if we felt you had alot left in the tank. Even though your a high character guy and have done great things here we are not going to hand you a starting job just because your John Lynch. Face the reality you need to retire. I never thought you'd quit from a challenge you big baby but, I guess the Favre fog hit you.

Good Luck in your future

Mike Shanahan

[Beantown Bronco]

Mediator, some times I really wonder what is going through your head.

Greg Robinson took a college head coaching Job and Failed.

But what happened even before that? Immediately after leaving the Broncos, he was hired to be KC's defensive coordinator. He failed miserably there for three years. In those years, they ranked 23rd, 29th and 32nd. Doesn't get any worse than that.....exactly what my argument was above.

Ray Rhodes took the Seahawks to the Superbowl in 2005

Please tell me you're joking. He was their DC from 2003 to 2007 and here are the rankings:

19th, 26th, 16th, 19th, and 15th.

And about that "Superbowl he took them to in 2005", (1) their defense was average at best that season, and (2) that was the year he suffered a stroke and didn't even coach most of that season.

and Larry Coyer (Assistant head Coach) Helped TB rise back into the top 5 Defenses last year after they dropped out of the top 10 for the first time since 1997

He was their defensive line coach. You can credit him for the turnaround, but in reality he had little to do with their scheme and their turnaround was due more to guys getting healthy than anything.

I think you need to reconsider that Idea as a good reason they were fired.

I think you need to reconsider how much research you put into your claims before you put them in writing.

Yeah, its called getting fired and not being well liked throughout the league. No one is going to go out on a limb to hire Sundquist, because he has no one to support him..

Uh huh. Cause all current GMs are well liked around the league. Paging Bill Parcells, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

[Inkana7]

Classy statements, Shanny. Very classy.

[bayarealightning]

Just as an update:

"Coach Norv Turner said the team doesn't have an interest in S John Lynch, the Torrey Pines High product who was granted his release by the Broncos on Thursday. "We like our group of guys and we are going to go with what we've got,'' Turner said".

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/08/01/sports/chargers/z45aba5c8b251145c88257498000b56ed.txt


Edit: By Keith Kidd of Scouts, Inc. - "Based on what we have seen on film in recent seasons Lynch is at his best near the line of scrimmage on first and second downs, as he has limitations extending down the field in deep zone coverages in sub packages. The Broncos acknowledged as much by running Lynch with the first-team defense in training camp but taking him off the field in nickel and dime situations.

Could Lynch help a team? Yes, but mostly as a situational player in a scheme he is familiar with. He could potentially fit somewhere as a third safety, but those players are usually counted on to contribute on special teams and a 15-year veteran like Lynch is not likely to step into that kind of role".

[Inkana7]

I can't wait to see Lynch in the broadcast booth.