If You Could Choose Any 1 Player in the NFL for the Broncos

[hambone13]

A bunch of you probably heard this on The Fan but I thought it would be an interesting discussion. (That's why I posted it at Broncos Coutry too ;-) If you could choose any 1 player active in the NFL to add to the Broncos for immediate impact and for the long term, who would it be?

I would have to say my vote would be Bob Sanders.....

[Inkana7]

Pat Williams.

[PaintballCLE]

any pro bowl caliber OL

[Prodigal19]

Pat Williams.

You would choose a player that probably is only going to be in the NFL for a couple more years?

[PRBronco]

Whoever the best DT in the game is. Kevin Williams? Tommie Harris?

[Inkana7]

You would choose a player that probably is only going to be in the NFL for a couple more years?

My apologies. Kevin Williams.

[Dukes]

Whoever the best DT in the game is. Kevin Williams? Tommie Harris?

Albert Haynesworth when he's motivated.

[Prodigal19]

Whoever the best DT in the game is. Kevin Williams? Tommie Harris?

yup, or Haynesworth

[TDmvp]

A bunch of you probably heard this on The Fan but I thought it would be an interesting discussion. (That's why I posted it at Broncos Coutry too ;-) If you could choose any 1 player active in the NFL to add to the Broncos for immediate impact and for the long term, who would it be?

I would have to say my vote would be Bob Sanders.....




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but jokes aside ... pick any big impact DT/DE or MLB who is younger then 26 ... maybe Mario Williams ...

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[SonOfLe-loLang]

Tom Brady

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:strong: :afro: I'm workin' on it.....Has this been posted before?

[bronco0608]

Peyton Manning. Yea, I said it.

[TDmvp]

we should ban anyone who says a QB ... and ban them twice if it is a 30 year old + QB ...

[PRBronco]

we should ban anyone who says a QB ... and ban them twice if it is a 30 year old + QB ...

And also ban wolf...

[TDmvp]

and if you think Brady or Manning would win a title with the teams we have had over the last 2 years your smoking butter ...

[Los Broncos]

Foneco hands down.

[TDmvp]

And also ban wolf...

qft/rep

[ludo21]

Ed Reed....;D

[telluride]

Peyton Manning. Yea, I said it.

As much as I like Cutler, this isn't an insane idea. Get Manning, trade Jay for a first round defensive impact player. Whatever our beefs about pumpkinhead are, there's no QB who knows the game better or works at his game more than Manning. (Dammit.)

Alternatively, I'd take Pat Willis or Mario Williams.

[Kaylore]

Ed Reed....;D

Did you know we could have had Ed Reed instead of Lelie? True story!!!!!

[Kaylore]

Give me Patrick Willis or give me death!

[ludo21]

Did you know we could have had Ed Reed instead of Lelie? True story!!!!!

And if this poll came out sooner we could have had BOTH!

[BroncoBuff]

Albert Haynesworth
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[Triplelefthook]

Gotta agree with the old farts on this - Albert Haynesworth or Tommie Harris.

Runners up Bob Sanders or Patrick Willis

[rovolution]

Haynesworth and i wouldnt ever second guess it.


Though the stats wont reflect it, His year last year was one of the all time years by a defensive linemen.

Its a shame he didnt get DPOY. We beat the Titans without him, and San Diego struggled to beat the Titans with him, and we all know the gap between us and the Chuggers.

Haynesworth changes an offense's game plan.

[hambone13]

we should ban anyone who says a QB ... and ban them twice if it is a 30 year old + QB ...

I have faith in Cutler especially over the years (gym rat, bright, strong arm). The criteria are "immediate impact" & long term impact..... 30+ year old QB's don't necessarily work on the 2nd criteria. I also agree that neither Tom Brady or Peyton Manning win the # of games they have w/ our roster over the last couple of years....

[Ray Finkle]

a healthy Al Wilson.

[BroncoBuff]

Though the stats wont reflect it, His year last year was one of the all time years by a defensive linemen.

Haynesworth changes an offense's game plan.
True true ... he was a monster of historic proportion vs. the run.
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[SouthStndJunkie]

Adrian Peterson to go with Jay Cutler would be a kick ass combo.

[hambone13]

Haynesworth and i wouldnt ever second guess it.


Though the stats wont reflect it, His year last year was one of the all time years by a defensive linemen.

Its a shame he didnt get DPOY. We beat the Titans without him, and San Diego struggled to beat the Titans with him, and we all know the gap between us and the Chuggers.

Haynesworth changes an offense's game plan.

Would definitely be in my top 3......I think Bob Sanders, A. Haynesworth, Lofa Tatupu, if I had to go top 3.... I enamored with another impact safety like Atwater. He makes a team reconsider their pass and rush strategies...

[ohiobronco2]

Mario Williams, Patrick Willis, Kevin Williams, or AD.

[Gcver2ver3]

hard to go against haynesworth...

but i gotta go with patrick willis...

[BroncoBuff]

Adrian Peterson to go with Jay Cutler would be a kick ass combo.
That was my runner-up (to Haynesworth and any of a half-dozen other blue-chip DTs) ... Adrian Peterson or Patrick Willis.
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[SouthStndJunkie]

That was my runner-up (to any of five blue-chip DTs), Adrian Peterson or Patrick Willis.

Defense would be nice, but a Cutler/Peterson duo has Super Bowls written all over it.

[mhgaffney]

Willis or Urlacher

Somebody BIG in the middle

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Devin Hester

[LonghornBronco]

Adrian Peterson!

[montrose]

Joe Thomas or Mario Williams

[Broncojef]

If we could fill the elusive big guy up front and have him there for the next 8-10 years thats a no brainer. Shanny can draft Rbs, LBs and the rest...the real struggle is the big play DT (Harris, Haynesworth or Willis would be my vote).

[kmonty]

It hurts me to say this:

Shawne Merriman

[chaz]

AP no question is the sexy pick but a DT like Tommie Harris or Kevin Williams could do wonders for our defense collapsing the pocket

[hambone13]

Almost every "impact" DT that has been chosen on this thread is in a 3/4 defense. Given that we're running a 4/3 making the parts a bit more interchangable. a 3/4 Tackle has to be that much more dominent. I feel we can get by with "good to very good" (as opposed to elite) DT's if we have a balanced LB corps and an "elite" Safety. How much easier did Atwater make the D-Line's job back during the SB years against the run. "Elite DT" and "Elite RB" are the sexy picks but I almost think it's tougher to get a top 5 "all around safety" in the draft. Hence my pick with Sanders.

[chaz]

Almost every "impact" DT that has been chosen on this thread is in a 3/4 defense. Given that we're running a 4/3 making the parts a bit more interchangable. a 3/4 Tackle has to be that much more dominent. I feel we can get by with "good to very good" (as opposed to elite) DT's if we have a balanced LB corps and an "elite" Safety. How much easier did Atwater make the D-Line's job back during the SB years against the run. "Elite DT" and "Elite RB" are the sexy picks but I almost think it's tougher to get a top 5 "all around safety" in the draft. Hence my pick with Sanders.

There is nothing sexy about DT...and the way to build a team is from the trenches out, not the other way around. Even "very good" DTs are hard to find. We've had average for a long time...Shanahan knows how to find safeties.

[gunns]

Tommie Harris
Bob Sanders
Patrick Willis
Joe Thomas

Our biggest needs and I believe the best players at their position, although Clady may have taken care of Thomas position.

[hambone13]

There is nothing sexy about DT...and the way to build a team is from the trenches out, not the other way around. Even "very good" DTs are hard to find. We've had average for a long time...Shanahan knows how to find safeties.

I disagree, elite DT's are definitely sexy. I agree whole heartedly with your statement that teams are built from the trenches out. I don't necessarily agree with "very good" DT's are "that hard" to find. I would argue that Warren and Robertson are both "very good". If we still had Warren we'd be in a much stronger position, imo. Even Haynesworth kinda, "plays/trains when he feels like it".

The last "Elite Saftey" we had was Atwater. I'm pretty sure Shanahan came in after the '89 draft and had little to no influence on the pick. I can't say that Lynch has been "elite" since he's been here. IMO, his PB's were strongly influenced by his reputation w/ the players in the league and being put in a scheme that allowed his mental strengths to flourish. Who else is even really worth mentioning in the Shanahan era?

Anyway, S. Atwater, Ed Reed, Polamalu, Lynch (in TB during his "elite" years) and Sanders played "VERY Influencial" roles in their teams respective SB runs and victories....

Elite Safeties are like Elite QB's, their leadership and influence stretch from the line to the secondary...

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[Broncoman13]

As much as I like Cutler, this isn't an insane idea. Get Manning, trade Jay for a first round defensive impact player. Whatever our beefs about pumpkinhead are, there's no QB who knows the game better or works at his game more than Manning. (Dammit.)

Alternatively, I'd take Pat Willis or Mario Williams.

Pat Willis would be great. Bob Sanders would be okay. No QBs. What about Adrian Peterson? Amobi Okoye? Tommie Harris?

Yeah, put me in the Pat Willis or Adrian Peterson group!

[Dr. Broncenstein]

I like the level-headed picks.. ie Haynesworth, Harris, Thomas... even AP. But I can't think of a more dynamic, game-changing player in the game than Hester. What a weapon.

[trampledon]

Brett Favre ;D

[Arkie]

Peyton Manning. Yea, I said it.

Tee Martin got tennessee their national championship the next year.

[BroncoBuff]

Joe Thomas or Mario Williams
If you believe the training camp hype ... we already have those guys. Their names are Ryan Clady and Jarvis Moss.
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[Hallside]

1. Willis
2. Cromartie
3. Take a chance on Calvin Johnson

[BroncoBuff]

Antoinio Cromartie, really?

Let's clarify the question ... I propose:Which current NFL player, if dropped on the Broncos roster NOW, would cause the most additional W's?
So ... Albert Haynesworth or one of the Williams'es or Tommie Harris. Because even though Niko and Webster aren't Pro-Bowlers, they are decent enough that subbing in Willis wouldn't affect the W-L all that much ... same with Cromartie at corner. Bly is no Cromartie, but he is above average and we have several very competent backups.

At DT on the other hand, we have a 2-strike 2nd year toker, and another guy with one leg on the turf and another on a banana peel. Oh, and rush defense was our worst team area last season.
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[Hallside]

Antoinio Cromartie, really?

Let's clarify the question ... I porpose:Which current NFL player, if dropped on the Broncos roster NOW, would cause the most additional W's

So ... Albert Haynesworth or one of the Williams'es or Tommie Harris. Because even though Niko and Webster aren't Pro-Bowlers, they are decent enough that subbing in Willis wouldn't affect the W-L all that much ... same with Cromartie at corner. Bly is no Cromartie, but he is above average and we have several very competent backups.

DT on the other hand, is a 2-strike 2nd year toker, and another guy with one leg on the turf and another on a banana peel. Oh, and rusg defense was our worst team area last season.
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Yeah, I was thinking longer term on the Cromartie and Johnson suggestions. Willis, my first choice, satisfies major long term and near term needs and remains my first choice.

If speaking only of wins next season, then an elite DT, probably Haynesworth, would be my next choice.

[Hogan11]

Peterson

[BroncoBuff]

I agree with you on Willis ... last year I proposed trading two #1 picks for the rights to draft Willis.

We wouldda been okay without Jarvis Moss ... but this Ryan Clady kid - it looks like he's gonna prove me wrong on my deal :)
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[Play2win]

Joe Thomas or Mario Williams

I kinda have to agree. We would be set for OL Bookends for the next decade. Shoot, Cutler could probably read War and Peace back there if he wanted to... ;D

[Rashomon]

Almost every "impact" DT that has been chosen on this thread is in a 3/4 defense. Given that we're running a 4/3 making the parts a bit more interchangable. a 3/4 Tackle has to be that much more dominent. I feel we can get by with "good to very good" (as opposed to elite) DT's if we have a balanced LB corps and an "elite" Safety. How much easier did Atwater make the D-Line's job back during the SB years against the run. "Elite DT" and "Elite RB" are the sexy picks but I almost think it's tougher to get a top 5 "all around safety" in the draft. Hence my pick with Sanders.

Haynesworth plays in a 4/3 defense for the Titans. I think Sanders is overrated, and there is a reason you just don't pick a safety with the first pick in the draft. Sanders also has a hard time staying healthy with his style of play. If you knew you could get the 2007 Haynesworth for the next several years, it would be an easy choice, because he meets a glaring need for the Broncos.

[MileHighMagic]

Right when I saw the thread, I said Patrick Willis or Joe Thomas. Difficult to choose between the two. You have to go with a young superstar in a position of need. We could move Clady to RT but who knows if that would work. Final answer... Patrick Willis.

[cutthemdown]

Patrick Willis- Defense
Braylon Edwards- Offense

[Atlas]

Give me Braylon Edwards and line him opposite Marshall, that would be awesome.

[hambone13]

Haynesworth plays in a 4/3 defense for the Titans. I think Sanders is overrated, and there is a reason you just don't pick a safety with the first pick in the draft. Sanders also has a hard time staying healthy with his style of play. If you knew you could get the 2007 Haynesworth for the next several years, it would be an easy choice, because he meets a glaring need for the Broncos.

For the record, although I didn't clarify the names of the other DT's mentioned in the thread, I am aware that Haynesworth is in a 4/3 in Tenn. He would definitely be in my top 3 as I believe I've already mentioned. I'm just a huge fan of elite Safety players and they kind of impact they can have on a season/championship, hence the remainder of the arguments in that post.

Safety is a "glaring" need for us, imo. While we "sorta" have it covered with average/below average, elderly & slow but wise and widely unproven prospects, this is one of the reasons I would make a move for a "known" elite safety as it's not worth it to go after them in the first round due to the difficulty of ensuring they will be effective. I feel it's more feasible to draft a "very good to elite" DT than a safety...in the first round. However, I feel I need to reiterate, this thread has nothing to do with the draft, it's a "wish" for the 1 player.

You do have a point about Sanders "style of play" and injury but I disagree about him being "overrated". He's a football player and a game changer.

[summerdenver]

Hixon.

JFMW + Hixon = championship

[JWalker84]

1. Petterson
2. Hester
3. Gates (keep him away from SD)

[Play2win]

2-SHAY



ha!! I thought by your title, you were going for the return of a healthy (young) Shannon Sharpe (and, yes, I know what you meant by it...) ;D

[hambone13]

ha!! I thought by your title, you were going for the return of a healthy (young) Shannon Sharpe (and, yes, I know what you meant by it...) ;D

I just have to say, this board is rapidly becoming my favorite place to talk Bronco's......I don't feel like I'm in a public pool w/ a hoard of GEDs battling for a place that hasn't been pissed in yet to do a couple of laps.....

[Breaker]

Jack M**** F****** Williams, o wait we already have him :)

[Breaker]

My real answer is Steven Jackson. He is a better reciever out of the backfield that Peterson and does not have the insane history of major injuries and he is only 26!!!

Without him I would say Patrick Willis or AJ Hawk.

[SouthStndJunkie]

Give me Braylon Edwards and line him opposite Marshall, that would be awesome.

I took Adrian Peterson, but props on the Braylon Edwards pick....Braylon is an incredible talent who should keep getting better and better.

[Killericon]

Patrick Willis or Kevin Williams. I cannot see how you'd pick an offensive player...

[Breaker]

Patrick Willis or Kevin Williams. I cannot see how you'd pick an offensive player...

Keeping the ball away from the other teams offense is just as effective as having a killer D.