Montrose's 7/29 AM Report

[montrose]

Another hot day, and it showed. On three occasions, Shanahan stopped practice to bring the team together and I assume – chew them out. The defense dominated early, but the offense continues actually one on the day - scoring a few times. D-Jack was made the victum of camp’s hardest hit yet, being de-helmeted by a group (I couldn’t see very well on this play) that included Green, Paymah and Thomas. One final note before getting to the report, parents: please, pleaseeeeee don’t bring your kids to camp. If I hear one more baby crying non-stop of toddler saying “Daddy, can we go yet?” after minutes, I’m going to crack. With that…

QB: Jay looked sharp today as the OL had its best practice pass protecting. Following a naked boot, he put a great spin move on a blitzing Bly that left Bly on the ground and Jay to pickup a huge chunk of yardage – but since you can’t hit QB’s it was ruled a sack. Jay was efficient all practice and is getting very better checking down to his RB’s and TE’s. He connected with Nate Jackson on a pair of beautiful bootlegs and Scheffler on a seam pattern – their favorite route together. Cutler led the 1st offense to a TD on the end-of-practice drive with several nice passes to Graham, Nate Jackson, D-Jack and the eventual TD to BMarsh on a bootleg. Ramsey looked god awful again throwing a terrible pick to Marlon McCree on a bootleg and later overthrowing Alridge in the flat. He looks very uncomfortable, to the point where the Broncos should seriously consider giving BVP a call. Hackney was solid again although he didn’t get many reps throwing the football.

RB: Hall was the best back on the field today, showing great vision and elusiveness. The offense is beginning to incorporate a lot of passes to the HB to take advantage of his pass-receiving skills. Young looked good too, making nice cuts and helping the 1st offense move the chains at the conclusion of practice. Young and Hall are the clear #1 and #2 RB’s right now. Torain continues to look solid as well, his balance is very impressive and it generally takes two defenders just to slow him down. In a good sign, he also put Dumervil on his butt pass-blocking, so he’s rounding out in skill set. Alridge fell back to Earth a bit, dropping a few passes but his speed is so impressive, the defense has to always know where he is – same with Eddie Royal. Hillis missed practice again so Sapp and Pittman worked at fullback. Sapp had a bad day with several dropped passes and a few missed blocks, one of which caused the 1st offense to go three and out after Webster destroyed Sapp to blow up a drive. Sapp got chewed out by Shanahan once and Bobby Turner later. Pittman looked okay, although he’s clearly not a natural run-blocker. He caught a swing pass for a big gain to go with some other catches, but at this point neither have shown anything compared to what Hillis brought before his injury.

WR: BMarsh was solid again, scoring a TD and also taking a bubble screen across the entire field for a big gain. His only drop was on a deep pass when JMFW had near perfect coverage and BMarsh tried to go over him like he did Bly earlier in the week but just couldn’t haul the pass in. Steve Watson was saying “Come’on BMarsh you gotta get that. There’s only 5 players in the world who can make that catch and you’re one of them.” D-Jack was solid, only had one drop and that was a very tough catch – but he did fumble a reverse exchange with Jay. He also went into crowd after making a tough catch. Stokley was mostly quiet but made a nice reception along the sideline against Morton. Bly had very good coverage on him all practice – Stokley appears to be the type of player once you play against him a lot – you catch on to his tendencies. Martinez dropped what would’ve been a big play on a beautiful pass from Cutler. Royal was pretty quiet with a few short catches. Colbert made a nice catch in front of Abdullah but had the play been live, Hamza would’ve lit him up and very likely broke up the pass. Martinez appears to have moved in front of Colbert as he was working more with the 2nd team while Colbert was working with the 3’s.

TE: This was a good day for the group, very active. Graham looked great and is beginning to get more and more involved in the short passing game. He didn’t drop a ball today and caught some individual praise from Shanahan for doing a great job. Nate Jackson has clearly moved ahead of Scheffler on the depth chart although Tony is getting plenty of work as well. Nate caught two nice bootleg passes to beat Niko and Lynch and made several nice grabs against zone coverage. He clearly has the team’s best hands, I’ve yet to see him drop a pass. Scheffler got a lot of work but didn’t see as many passes as Graham or Jackson. He made a nice turn-around grab in front of Manual. Pierce continues to work in with the 2’s and occasionally the 1’s as a blocking TE but I’ve yet to see him do much of anything in the passing game and he’s only average in blocking.

OL: Nalen didn’t practice and was replaced by Wiegmann while Holland was pushing the sled. The group is getting better, especially in the run game where by the end of practice they were opening a lot of holes for Young and Hall against the 1st and 2nd D’s. Hamilton’s rounding back into form and appears to be a nice compliment to Clady. Kuper had a nice practice, holding his own in some battles against Robertson whose mostly had his way the Broncos interior OL. Wiegmann was solid, but did get beat by Peterson and Mallard a few times. Polumbus continues to impress, he manhandled Engelberger on back-to-back plays while Pears had his best practice – shutting down Dumervil. Lichtensteiger got in some work on the 2nd unit and while he’s making a lot of mental mistakes, he clearly has a nice combo of speed and strength that could make him a future starter. The entire group had their best day pass-blocking, I didn’t see them give up one sack although the defense did not blitz as much today. Harris had his best practice of camp, although he still has a hard time with Moss he did very well against Crowder.

DL: Moss and Crowder are beginning to work in reps with the 1st unit. Moss can be simply unblockable at times, and he’s constantly catching the praise (and occasionally ire) of Barney Chavous. Other than Clady, no one can really block Moss consistently in the run game or pass-protection. Dumervil and Engerlberger were quiet while Crowder was in a spirited battle with Harris that went back and forth. Ekuban isn’t getting many reps at all but when he does get them, they’re with the 1st unit at DT – so go figure. Robertson continues to be dominant and times and stout at the least, he’s going to give Wiegmann and Gandy nightmares about going to practice all season. Thomas continues to get better and I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s starting by mid-season. I continue to be impressed by the effort of Peterson and Mallard – those two guys play the heart out every down. McKinley is an enigma to me, I think he’s got talent as it shows from time to time, but he just disappears for stretches and can’t seem to get much movement against Hamilton or Kuper.

LB: Whoever lines up with the #2’s at MLB appears to get motivated. For the first few days of camp, Niko worked with the #1’s and Webster was more impressive on the 2nd unit. Then they flipped and Niko was more impressive with the #2’s. Today they flipped back and again Webster was more impressive working with the 2nd group. Webster destroyed, I mean destroyed Sapp on an iso play and introduced himself to Torain and Hall on a few occasions. He also laid the wood on Alridge in space – Webster was everywhere today. Niko wasn’t bad today, though he was beat badly by Nate Jackson on a bootleg. Otherwise, he’s very consistent and reading his keys and is a very fundamental tackler with good pop. I’d imagine he registers 8-10 tackles every practice, but he’s not as flashy as Webster can be. While he didn’t look good in coverage, the defense introduced an interesting 4-3-3-1 look with only Abdullah at the deep safety, Bly cover the slot, Foxy and Champ outside and the 3 starting LB’s in. DJ and Boss were everywhere today, as usual. Boss was getting some praise from Shanahan. I heard “Atta way Nine, Seven; that’s why we brought you here. You must’ve been picked on by your big brother when you were little. You’re playing mean.” Winborn and Green both laid some serious licks on RB’s coming out of the backfield. I didn’t see much of Larsen or Beck to comment.

DB: Foxworth continues his very impressive camp by shutting down WR after WR not named Marshall. He made a great jump on a ball intended for Colbert and could’ve picked it had he not ran into his own man. Bly had a great day as well, picking off a Ramsey pass and completely shutting down Stokley on the day. Champ wasn’t even tested as far as I could tell. Lynch got beat by Nate Jackson on one play but played solid otherwise, laying a lick on Alridge that made the crowd ooh. McCree’s interception of Ramsey brought some praise from Shanahan while Abdullah continues to look great as the team’s #1 safety. He broke up a few passes intended for TE’s and Royal. Didn’t see much of Barrett or Manual although I recall one play where Barrett blew up the play in the backfield. JMFW had his best practice as a Bronco, working with the #2's in front of Paymah. He looked D-Will-esque in flying up to take out Young and Sapp on two plays. He had great coverage on BMarsh on the deep pass, then two plays later, BMarsh put a great move on him and JMFW was right there to break up the pass. Following the play, JMFW could be heard – “That’s right, I’m here.” I was so pumped, Jack “Mother F***ing” Williams just talked sh*t to Brandon Marshall. Wow.

ST: Paulescu was booming them. I mean booming them today as they worked on coverage teams. I didn’t see Kern kick any.

I’m not sure if I’ll make the evening practice, they’re generally walkthrough’s anyhow. If I do make it, I’ll be sure to post a report.

[Dukes]

Great work again! Thanks

[socalorado]

Another hot day, and it showed. On three occasions, Shanahan stopped practice to bring the team together and I assume – chew them out. The defense dominated early, but the offense continues actually one on the day - scoring a few times. D-Jack was made the victum of camp’s hardest hit yet, being de-helmeted by a group (I couldn’t see very well on this play) that included Green, Paymah and Thomas. One final note before getting to the report, parents: please, pleaseeeeee don’t bring your kids to camp. If I hear one more baby crying non-stop of toddler saying “Daddy, can we go yet?” after minutes, I’m going to crack. With that…

QB: Jay looked sharp today as the OL had its best practice pass protecting. Following a naked boot, he put a great spin move on a blitzing Bly that left Bly on the ground and Jay to pickup a huge chunk of yardage – but since you can’t hit QB’s it was ruled a sack. Jay was efficient all practice and is getting very better checking down to his RB’s and TE’s. He connected with Nate Jackson on a pair of beautiful bootlegs and Scheffler on a seam pattern – their favorite route together. Cutler led the 1st offense to a TD on the end-of-practice drive with several nice passes to Graham, Nate Jackson, D-Jack and the eventual TD to BMarsh on a bootleg. Ramsey looked god awful again throwing a terrible pick to Marlon McCree on a bootleg and later overthrowing Alridge in the flat. He looks very uncomfortable, to the point where the Broncos should seriously consider giving BVP a call. Hackney was solid again although he didn’t get many reps throwing the football.

RB: Hall was the best back on the field today, showing great vision and elusiveness. The offense is beginning to incorporate a lot of passes to the HB to take advantage of his pass-receiving skills. Young looked good too, making nice cuts and helping the 1st offense move the chains at the conclusion of practice. Young and Hall are the clear #1 and #2 RB’s right now. Torain continues to look solid as well, his balance is very impressive and it generally takes two defenders just to slow him down. In a good sign, he also put Dumervil on his butt pass-blocking, so he’s rounding out in skill set. Alridge fell back to Earth a bit, dropping a few passes but his speed is so impressive, the defense has to always know where he is – same with Eddie Royal. Hillis missed practice again so Sapp and Pittman worked at fullback. Sapp had a bad day with several dropped passes and a few missed blocks, one of which caused the 1st offense to go three and out after Webster destroyed Sapp to blow up a drive. Sapp got chewed out by Shanahan once and Bobby Turner later. Pittman looked okay, although he’s clearly not a natural run-blocker. He caught a swing pass for a big gain to go with some other catches, but at this point neither have shown anything compared to what Hillis brought before his injury.

WR: BMarsh was solid again, scoring a TD and also taking a bubble screen across the entire field for a big gain. His only drop was on a deep pass when JMFW had near perfect coverage and BMarsh tried to go over him like he did Bly earlier in the week but just couldn’t haul the pass in. Steve Watson was saying “Come’on BMarsh you gotta get that. There’s only 5 players in the world who can make that catch and you’re one of them.” D-Jack was solid, only had one drop and that was a very tough catch – but he did fumble a reverse exchange with Jay. He also went into crowd after making a tough catch. Stokley was mostly quiet but made a nice reception along the sideline against Morton. Bly had very good coverage on him all practice – Stokley appears to be the type of player once you play against him a lot – you catch on to his tendencies. Martinez dropped what would’ve been a big play on a beautiful pass from Cutler. Royal was pretty quiet with a few short catches. Colbert made a nice catch in front of Abdullah but had the play been live, Hamza would’ve lit him up and very likely broke up the pass. Martinez appears to have moved in front of Colbert as he was working more with the 2nd team while Colbert was working with the 3’s.

TE: This was a good day for the group, very active. Graham looked great and is beginning to get more and more involved in the short passing game. He didn’t drop a ball today and caught some individual praise from Shanahan for doing a great job. Nate Jackson has clearly moved ahead of Scheffler on the depth chart although Tony is getting plenty of work as well. Nate caught two nice bootleg passes to beat Niko and Lynch and made several nice grabs against zone coverage. He clearly has the team’s best hands, I’ve yet to see him drop a pass. Scheffler got a lot of work but didn’t see as many passes as Graham or Jackson. He made a nice turn-around grab in front of Manual. Pierce continues to work in with the 2’s and occasionally the 1’s as a blocking TE but I’ve yet to see him do much of anything in the passing game and he’s only average in blocking.

OL: Nalen didn’t practice and was replaced by Wiegmann while Holland was pushing the sled. The group is getting better, especially in the run game where by the end of practice they were opening a lot of holes for Young and Hall against the 1st and 2nd D’s. Hamilton’s rounding back into form and appears to be a nice compliment to Clady. Kuper had a nice practice, holding his own in some battles against Robertson whose mostly had his way the Broncos interior OL. Wiegmann was solid, but did get beat by Peterson and Mallard a few times. Polumbus continues to impress, he manhandled Engelberger on back-to-back plays while Pears had his best practice – shutting down Dumervil. Lichtensteiger got in some work on the 2nd unit and while he’s making a lot of mental mistakes, he clearly has a nice combo of speed and strength that could make him a future starter. The entire group had their best day pass-blocking, I didn’t see them give up one sack although the defense did not blitz as much today. Harris had his best practice of camp, although he still has a hard time with Moss he did very well against Crowder.

DL: Moss and Crowder are beginning to work in reps with the 1st unit. Moss can be simply unblockable at times, and he’s constantly catching the praise (and occasionally ire) of Barney Chavous. Other than Clady, no one can really block Moss consistently in the run game or pass-protection. Dumervil and Engerlberger were quiet while Crowder was in a spirited battle with Harris that went back and forth. Ekuban isn’t getting many reps at all but when he does get them, they’re with the 1st unit at DT – so go figure. Robertson continues to be dominant and times and stout at the least, he’s going to give Wiegmann and Gandy nightmares about going to practice all season. Thomas continues to get better and I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s starting by mid-season. I continue to be impressed by the effort of Peterson and Mallard – those two guys play the heart out every down. McKinley is an enigma to me, I think he’s got talent as it shows from time to time, but he just disappears for stretches and can’t seem to get much movement against Hamilton or Kuper.

LB: Whoever lines up with the #2’s at MLB appears to get motivated. For the first few days of camp, Niko worked with the #1’s and Webster was more impressive on the 2nd unit. Then they flipped and Niko was more impressive with the #2’s. Today they flipped back and again Webster was more impressive working with the 2nd group. Webster destroyed, I mean destroyed Sapp on an iso play and introduced himself to Torain and Hall on a few occasions. He also laid the wood on Alridge in space – Webster was everywhere today. Niko wasn’t bad today, though he was beat badly by Nate Jackson on a bootleg. Otherwise, he’s very consistent and reading his keys and is a very fundamental tackler with good pop. I’d imagine he registers 8-10 tackles every practice, but he’s not as flashy as Webster can be. While he didn’t look good in coverage, the defense introduced an interesting 4-3-3-1 look with only Abdullah at the deep safety, Bly cover the slot, Foxy and Champ outside and the 3 starting LB’s in. DJ and Boss were everywhere today, as usual. Boss was getting some praise from Shanahan. I heard “Atta way Nine, Seven; that’s why we brought you here. You must’ve been picked on by your big brother when you were little. You’re playing mean.” Winborn and Green both laid some serious licks on RB’s coming out of the backfield. I didn’t see much of Larsen or Beck to comment.

DB: Foxworth continues his very impressive camp by shutting down WR after WR not named Marshall. He made a great jump on a ball intended for Colbert and could’ve picked it had he not ran into his own man. Bly had a great day as well, picking off a Ramsey pass and completely shutting down Stokley on the day. Champ wasn’t even tested as far as I could tell. Lynch got beat by Nate Jackson on one play but played solid otherwise, laying a lick on Alridge that made the crowd ooh. McCree’s interception of Ramsey brought some praise from Shanahan while Abdullah continues to look great as the team’s #1 safety. He broke up a few passes intended for TE’s and Royal. Didn’t see much of Barrett or Manual although I recall one play where Barrett blew up the play in the backfield. JMFW had his best practice as a Bronco, working with the #2's in front of Paymah. He looked D-Will-esque in flying up to take out Young and Sapp on two plays. He had great coverage on BMarsh on the deep pass, then two plays later, BMarsh put a great move on him and JMFW was right there to break up the pass. Following the play, JMFW could be heard – “That’s right, I’m here.” I was so pumped, Jack “Mother ****ing” Williams just talked sh*t to Brandon Marshall. Wow.

ST: Paulescu was booming them. I mean booming them today as they worked on coverage teams. I didn’t see Kern kick any.

I’m not sure if I’ll make the evening practice, they’re generally walkthrough’s anyhow. If I do make it, I’ll be sure to post a report.

Post of the day! Thank You Montrose
JEEZ!!!
Jack MOTHER****ING Williams!

[cutlerfan]

Thanks for the great report!!

[BroncoInferno]

Nate Jackson has clearly moved ahead of Scheffler on the depth chart

Do what?? I've been reading nothing but superlatives regarding Scheffler in most of the reports, yet Nate "Hamstring" Jackson has passed him on the depth chart? Were the other reports of Scheffler's play wrong in your view, or is Jackson's play even beyond what has been reported for Schef? Or are you as baffled as I am?

[bronco militia]

Nate Jackson has clearly moved ahead of Scheffler on the depth chart although Tony is getting plenty of work as well.

umm what?

[bronco militia]

lol...beat me to it

[RonDaChamp24]

Thanks for the reports man. You're awesome.

[ludo21]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

cant wait till Preseason !!!!!

Nasty Nate ahead of Shefffler is interesting.

How is Hamilton looking?

I think us doing that nickel-esque formation could be something we do a lot.

[Rabb]

Do what?? I've been reading nothing but superlatives regarding Scheffler in most of the reports, yet Nate "Hamstring" Jackson has passed him on the depth chart? Were the other reports of Scheffler's play wrong in your view, or is Jackson's play even beyond what has been reported for Schef? Or are you as baffled as I am?

yeah that is what jumped out at me also...curious to hear more

[Traveler]

Montrose,

How well are the LB's and CB's tackling? Are they still going for kills shots or form tackling? Are they practicing tackling fundamentals at all?

[Broncoman13]

Awesome Montrose... one thing though. I can promise you that Nate Jackson has not moved ahead of Scheff on the depth chart. They may want to get the other TE's morw work, but there is no way (after the way Scheff has practiced thus far) that he's moving down the depth chart. He was one of the best, if not the best player of the week thus far!

[Mountain Bronco]

I as well don't understand the comment about Nate and Scheffler. It sounds as if Sheffler has been outstanding, while Nate has been ok. Please explain if you would. Thanks, for the reports.

[ludo21]

How did Barret/ other Safeties look today?

[hambone13]

U rock, thanks again for taking the time! I agree on the Scheffler call. No way Nate has passed him. They're probably just giving the other TE's more reps. Plus, let that foot keep healing!

[PRBronco]

I really like what I'm hearing about Niko, just good sound linebacking. So what if he can't cover Antonio Gates downfield? Let's start with fundamental things like tackling a running back, and worry about about getting cute later. Nate Webster is welcome to run around 100 miles an hour and launch his shoulder at things all he wants, but day in, day out, I'd rather have Niko in the middle.

[summerdenver]

great job. Thanks for the report.

Based on what you have seen sofar, how would you rate Harris, pears and Polumbus for the RT.

[ColoradoDarin]

Keep them up, I love these reports Montrose!

[Rabb]

How is Royal on returns?

just curious, I have only heard a couple things but I think that is one thing I am looking forward to the most

[ColoradoBuff]

Great job! Sounds like Moss is doing well!

[cutlerfan]

I tell you who I have a good feeling about is DGraham

[prunch]

I notice the casual "no one can consistently block him except Clady" ..... so is Clady pretty much the future 10 year LT at this point, no questions?

[Rank&File]

I'm glad a stumbled upon this place. Great inside info for those of us that are on the other side of the country. I think I will be spending a lot of time here. Keep up the great work!

[cutlerfan]

I'm glad a stumbled upon this place. Great inside info for those of us that are on the other side of the country. I think I will be spending a lot of time here. Keep up the great work!

I second that - it is a great Website! There are some sharp people who post here!

[Inkana7]

Thanks, Montrose!

What unit(s) is Torain working with?

[jayman_37]

I was at camp today and I also enjoyed Cutler yelling at Winborn because he wouldn't let go of Torrain. He just yelled at him to let him go, but it was still nice to see that leadership from Jay. Maybe something he wouldn't have done last year.

[montrose]

Do what?? I've been reading nothing but superlatives regarding Scheffler in most of the reports, yet Nate "Hamstring" Jackson has passed him on the depth chart? Were the other reports of Scheffler's play wrong in your view, or is Jackson's play even beyond what has been reported for Schef? Or are you as baffled as I am?

Nate Jackson has clearly moved ahead of Scheffler on the depth chart although Tony is getting plenty of work as well.

umm what?

Awesome Montrose... one thing though. I can promise you that Nate Jackson has not moved ahead of Scheff on the depth chart. They may want to get the other TE's morw work, but there is no way (after the way Scheff has practiced thus far) that he's moving down the depth chart. He was one of the best, if not the best player of the week thus far!

I as well don't understand the comment about Nate and Scheffler. It sounds as if Sheffler has been outstanding, while Nate has been ok. Please explain if you would. Thanks, for the reports.

U rock, thanks again for taking the time! I agree on the Scheffler call. No way Nate has passed him. They're probably just giving the other TE's more reps. Plus, let that foot keep healing!

I figured this would bring a reaction. Okay here's the thing. Tony has looked GREAT. He's been one of the most impressive players at camp thus far. Nate has also looked very good as has Graham. I'd put up our TE depth against any in the league. Now as to the depth chart, Scheffler has worked in on the 1st, 2nd and 3rd units. Now this could be because Tony is recovering from his injury, but Nate has worked almost exclusively on the 1st team with Graham in every package incorporating 2 TE's. In solo TE formations, Graham is working with the 1st team, Jackson the 2nd and Scheffler the 3rd. During 7-on-7, when the coaches yell 1st team up, BMarsh, D-Jack, Graham, Jackson and Young immediately huddle up. In 11-on-11, when Shanahan yells 1st offense - the huddle immediately forms to Jay, Young, Nate, Graham, BMarsh, D-Jack, Clady, Hamilton, Nalen, Kuper and Harris.

The coaches are simply very high on Jackson although I still think we'll see more of Scheffler once the regular season starts. For right now, Jackson is getting a lot more work with the 1st team while Scheffler is backing him up.

How is Hamilton looking?

He's looking better and better each practice. He still gets put on roller skates from time-to-time and Robertson has dominated most of their battles, but he's getting his timing down and should be ready to go for Chokeland.

How well are the LB's and CB's tackling? Are they still going for kills shots or form tackling? Are they practicing tackling fundamentals at all?

Okay, this has been one of my biggest frustrations of camp - and I'm sure it's a league wide problem. I understand you don't want players getting hurt, but it's easy to see why tackling is piss-poor around the league. Not only do the players not practice tackling during each drill, they basically go for a big kill shot or strip - rarely working on technique. Only do Niko and Lynch actually shoot their hips and execute correct tackling technique (without bringing the player to the ground) during these drills. Guys like McCree and Webster are just trying to lay big licks on since it's not full-live.

How did Barrett/other Safeties look today?

I didn't get to see much of them although I recall Barrett blowing up one play in the backfield. In general, I can see why he was considered a smart-player as he's already lining other guys up although he's clearly not as fast on the field as he is on the track (opposed to Royal or Alridge who's game speed transfers over clearly). As per the other safeties, Hamza looks great. He's covering the entire field and taking much better angles than he did last year. I think the experience he got last season will be invaluable. Lynch is looking like himself against the run but he's still a big liability in coverage, he's given up some plays and is often the target in zone coverage. McCree looks good in pass coverage but he's not the run stopper I thought he was. Torain and Alridge have made him look silly on a few occasions. Manual's been a pleasant surprise, he's a good blitzer and looks solid in run support.

I really like what I'm hearing about Niko, just good sound linebacking. So what if he can't cover Antonio Gates downfield? Let's start with fundamental things like tackling a running back, and worry about about getting cute later. Nate Webster is welcome to run around 100 miles an hour and launch his shoulder at things all he wants, but day in, day out, I'd rather have Niko in the middle.

You pretty much hit the nail on the head. Nate can be fun to watch because he does play like a loose cannon but Niko is a very fundamental MLB who simply reads his keys and makes the tackle. I'm sure he'll make some mistakes as this will be his first year as a starter, but all-in-all I don't expect him to be a weak link. Boss is so good in coverage he can make up for a lot of his weaknesses, as can DJ.

Based on what you have seen so far, how would you rate Harris, pears and Polumbus for the RT.

Pears has worked exclusively as the LT on the 2nd and 3rd teams as Polumbus has worked exclusively as the RT on the 2nd and 3rd teams and Harris has been the 1st team RT. It'd be easy for me to say Polumbus has been better as Harris really struggled the first few days and Polumbus has had some nice practices. With that, Harris is more talented - it's quite apparent. I get the feeling many of his mistakes are coming from a lack of comfort playing the position. Until Montrae drops the weight, I'd fully expect Harris to be starting at RT although I think Polumbus has a good shot at making the roster. Pears has been Pears, average at best.

How is Royal on returns? just curious, I have only heard a couple things but I think that is one thing I am looking forward to the most

It's hard to judge because they haven't gone live yet on returns. I think he'll be fine although Hall appears to be the more fluid KR whereas Royal is by the far the standout on PR's. We've got some depth at returns with Royal, Hall, Martinez and Alridge - I guess we'll have to wait until the preseason.

I was at camp today and I also enjoyed Cutler yelling at Winborn because he wouldn't let go of Torrain. He just yelled at him to let him go, but it was still nice to see that leadership from Jay. Maybe something he wouldn't have done last year.

I noticed that too. Also, yesterday Selvin Young was getting after the offense to move the chains which was cool. I'd say without question this is becoming Jay and DJ's team.

[Ironlung]

People have a right to take their kids wherever they please. Grumpy old fart.

[montrose]

I tell you who I have a good feeling about is DGraham

Graham's had a very good camp, IMO. If the OL can shape up, I think he'll be more active in the passing game although with Jackson and Scheffler - there are plenty of options.

I notice the casual "no one can consistently block him except Clady" ..... so is Clady pretty much the future 10 year LT at this point, no questions?

I wouldn't want to jinx him but in over 10 years of coming to camp he's far and away the most impressive OL I've seen - and that includes Nalen.

What unit(s) is Torain working with?

Mostly the 3rd although he works in with the #2's as well. During drills, the skilled position guys work in and out with all units but during the scrimmages, he's been with the 3rd team.

People have a right to take their kids wherever they please. Grumpy old fart.

This I realize, I had a weak moment - but three hours of crying babies and restless toddlers will do it to you when you're trying to comprise a detailed report.

[Rabb]

thanks for the replies montrose, great job

[vancejohnson82]

hey montrose...good stuff man


there has been no drop-off in the Camp Updates as far as I'm concerned....

I especially love the JMFW updates...

[cutlerfan]

I was at camp today and I also enjoyed Cutler yelling at Winborn because he wouldn't let go of Torrain. He just yelled at him to let him go, but it was still nice to see that leadership from Jay. Maybe something he wouldn't have done last year.

Jamie is a Vandy player too - what did Jay say - Just let him go?

I like Jamie's motor. The guy plays 100 MPH!

[IndianaBronco]

Can you elaborate on the apparent conflicting reports about Jarvis Moss. The Denver Post today said that he has been disappointing and I have heard reports that the radio in Denver is saying the same.

You have consistently said Moss looks very good. Which is it? Are the media reports totally off base?

[rugbythug]

Thanks Montrose-Much appreciation from this Bronco Fan

[rugbythug]

Still bringing my 2 yo this Saturday though

[Borks147]

Can you elaborate on the apparent conflicting reports about Jarvis Moss. The Denver Post today said that he has been disappointing and I have heard reports that the radio in Denver is saying the same.

You have consistently said Moss looks very good. Which is it? Are the media reports totally off base?

I think everyone doing camp reports on the mane have said he is our most fundamentally sound d-end (as in, good against both the rush and the pass, whereas doom gets slaughtered against the run). I believe them over what the post says.

[no-pseudo-fan]

Can you elaborate on the apparent conflicting reports about Jarvis Moss. The Denver Post today said that he has been disappointing and I have heard reports that the radio in Denver is saying the same.

You have consistently said Moss looks very good. Which is it? Are the media reports totally off base?

I have heard the same. Moss is unblockable(except Clady), Moss sucks. I keep hearing that Moss is working extra hard to get ready. So what is it, Good, Bad Or Ugly?

[Natedogg]

awesome. but i'm still worried about the oline/dline. if i had my way, den would pick up another veteran for each for more camp competition.

[Triplelefthook]

Can you elaborate on the apparent conflicting reports about Jarvis Moss. The Denver Post today said that he has been disappointing and I have heard reports that the radio in Denver is saying the same.

You have consistently said Moss looks very good. Which is it? Are the media reports totally off base?

i would love to hear your thoughts on this too montrose, and others who are reporting from camp... the drastic difference in opinion over Moss is disturbing. if the post and 104.3 are this off on a player then they all need to be given new professions

[colonelbeef]

It really sounds like the offseason moves are going to pay off. Robertson & Clady, while getting Moss, Nalen, Hamilton back and rounded into shape will give this team the backbone that was so sorely missed down the stretch last year...

I can't wait to watch Clady pancake someone. Good work Montrose, thx for the updates.

[brncobrett]

Good stuff Montrose!!!

[summerdenver]

I wouldn't want to jinx him but in over 10 years of coming to camp he's far and away the most impressive OL I've seen - and that includes Nalen.


Wow!!! Thats high praise for a rookie. I can't wait for the preseason.

Also I am knocking on wood as i type it.

[kmonty]

i would love to hear your thoughts on this too montrose, and others who are reporting from camp... the drastic difference in opinion over Moss is disturbing. if the post and 104.3 are this off on a player then they all need to be given new professions

The Denver Post is reporting his struggles after Lindsey Jones saw Moss get beaten badly one play, then get ripped by the DL coach. Hardly a representative sample.

The local radio is basing their opinion on the fact that Moss is still working with the #2s mostly. If he's so good, shouldn't he be starting? While most assume he will crack the lineup from the fan reports we've read, you have to admit their argument has merit.

[2KBack]

The Denver Post is reporting his struggles after Lindsey Jones saw Moss get beaten badly one play, then get ripped by the DL coach. Hardly a representative sample.

The local radio is basing their opinion on the fact that Moss is still working with the #2s mostly. If he's so good, shouldn't he be starting? While most assume he will crack the lineup from the fan reports we've read, you have to admit their argument has merit.

I actually disagree. The difference between the #1's and #2's is negligible really. Denver has always heavily rotated their Linemen, the "2's" see the field about as much as the "starters."

Not to mention that the starting positions are never very solid until a couple (preseason) games have been played.

[Triplelefthook]

The Denver Post is reporting his struggles after Lindsey Jones saw Moss get beaten badly one play, then get ripped by the DL coach. Hardly a representative sample.

The local radio is basing their opinion on the fact that Moss is still working with the #2s mostly. If he's so good, shouldn't he be starting? While most assume he will crack the lineup from the fan reports we've read, you have to admit their argument has merit.

that's why i am asking about it in particular

[montrose]

Can you elaborate on the apparent conflicting reports about Jarvis Moss. The Denver Post today said that he has been disappointing and I have heard reports that the radio in Denver is saying the same.

You have consistently said Moss looks very good. Which is it? Are the media reports totally off base?

I have heard the same. Moss is unblockable(except Clady), Moss sucks. I keep hearing that Moss is working extra hard to get ready. So what is it, Good, Bad Or Ugly?

i would love to hear your thoughts on this too montrose, and others who are reporting from camp... the drastic difference in opinion over Moss is disturbing. if the post and 104.3 are this off on a player then they all need to be given new professions

The Denver Post is reporting his struggles after Lindsey Jones saw Moss get beaten badly one play, then get ripped by the DL coach. Hardly a representative sample.

The local radio is basing their opinion on the fact that Moss is still working with the #2s mostly. If he's so good, shouldn't he be starting? While most assume he will crack the lineup from the fan reports we've read, you have to admit their argument has merit.

First and foremost, 104.3 The Fan are absolute morons. These are the same guys who say to breakup the Nuggets and build a team that George Karl wants. When it comes to football, their knowledge borders on idiotic. I recall a spirited conversation that the Broncos should cut Brandon Marshall to resign Jason Elam...

Per Moss, he's looked very good thus far. He's gotten beat from time-to-time and the coaches are very hard on him as he's a 1st round pick they're trying to get the most out of. Jarvis has stayed after practice every time I've gone over the past two years, mandatory or not. As far as working with the 2nd group, not only is he behind Dumervil - who the coaches refuse to remove from the 1st team, but Shanahan is a big fan of motivating players. He's not going to hand Moss a 1st team job, he'll have to earn it. Moss is already working with the 1st team Nickel and on a line that rotates heavily - he'll see a lot of action.

Don't ever, ever listen to The Fan seriously. Last week they were discussing if we should move Cutler for Favre. They're morons.

[Irish Stout]

We all appreciate the detailed input! Can't wait to see the preseason games!

[SleepingTiger]

Don't ever, ever listen to The Fan seriously. Last week they were discussing if we should move Cutler for Favre. They're morons.

why not? maybe after Farve retires again after this season, we can resign Jake the snake!

[Person]

People have a right to take their kids wherever they please. Grumpy old fart.

Not to porn shops, casinos, bars, stip clubs, cigar lounges, and most importantl... NOT TO TRAINING CAMP!

Anyways,

I really want to see DeWayne Robertson dominate come August 9th. Agreed?

[Person]

People have a right to take their kids wherever they please. Grumpy old fart.

Not to porn shops, casinos, bars, stip clubs, cigar lounges, and most importantly... NOT TO TRAINING CAMP!

Anyways,

I really want to see DeWayne Robertson dominate come August 9th. Agreed?

[Triplelefthook]

First and foremost, 104.3 The Fan are absolute morons. These are the same guys who say to breakup the Nuggets and build a team that George Karl wants. When it comes to football, their knowledge borders on idiotic. I recall a spirited conversation that the Broncos should cut Brandon Marshall to resign Jason Elam...

Per Moss, he's looked very good thus far. He's gotten beat from time-to-time and the coaches are very hard on him as he's a 1st round pick they're trying to get the most out of. Jarvis has stayed after practice every time I've gone over the past two years, mandatory or not. As far as working with the 2nd group, not only is he behind Dumervil - who the coaches refuse to remove from the 1st team, but Shanahan is a big fan of motivating players. He's not going to hand Moss a 1st team job, he'll have to earn it. Moss is already working with the 1st team Nickel and on a line that rotates heavily - he'll see a lot of action.

Don't ever, ever listen to The Fan seriously. Last week they were discussing if we should move Cutler for Favre. They're morons.

Thanks for giving your thoughts. Honestly except for the old guys I don't find the Fan guys too bad (I never heard them mention the Marshall/Elam, Cutler/Favre moves tho)... Mosher and Evans are rather useless at times, but you'll rarely see them be on the COMPLETE opposite side of the field on a player. at least i never heard it, certainly never heard anything this different last year with the reports here.

[Broncosmang]

Not to porn shops, casinos, bars, stip clubs, cigar lounges, and most importantly... NOT TO TRAINING CAMP!

Anyways,

I really want to see DeWayne Robertson dominate come August 9th. Agreed?

That's ridiculous. I totaly agreed with you until the training camp statement. I can only wish that my dad would have brought me to camp when I was young. What a great way to build your love for a team and memories with your parents.

[Kaylore]

Thanks for giving your thoughts. Honestly except for the old guys I don't find the Fan guys too bad (I never heard them mention the Marshall/Elam, Cutler/Favre moves tho)... Mosher and Evans are rather useless at times, but you'll rarely see them be on the COMPLETE opposite side of the field on a player. at least i never heard it, certainly never heard anything this different last year with the reports here.

Evans is the worst, actually. Just yesterday he was complaining that unless the team practices full contact they won't improve. They were outside at that very moment practicing full contact. Then Tyler Pollumbus comes on and tells them they are practicing full contact. Then he continues to complain about it again. Then he starts saying that if Marshall is suspended they should forfeit the season. I mean he really doesn't know what he's talking about.

[JWalker84]

Nice report! Thanks for the work!
Besides PR has Royal been working out of the slot like everyone thought he was going to be on draft day? Or as WR?

[Triplelefthook]

Evans is the worst, actually. Just yesterday he was complaining that unless the team practices full contact they won't improve. They were outside at that very moment practicing full contact. Then Tyler Pollumbus comes on and tells them they are practicing full contact. Then he continues to complain about it again. Then he starts saying that if Marshall is suspended they should forfeit the season. I mean he really doesn't know what he's talking about.

i actually agree with you about evans being the worst - at the least the old guys you can laugh them off as borderline-senile. Evans was on record as saying all the nuggets needed to turn their season around was Garnett and Ray Allen... way to go out on a limb there buddy.

ok maybe the people at the Fan for the most part ARE that bad - i still havent come across such a divide in reports regarding a player tho

[hambone13]

Any word on Sammie Parker getting any reps?

[HolyDiver]

Another hot day, and it showed. On three occasions, Shanahan stopped practice to bring the team together and I assume – chew them out. The defense dominated early, but the offense continues actually one on the day - scoring a few times. D-Jack was made the victum of camp’s hardest hit yet, being de-helmeted by a group (I couldn’t see very well on this play) that included Green, Paymah and Thomas. One final note before getting to the report, parents: please, pleaseeeeee don’t bring your kids to camp. If I hear one more baby crying non-stop of toddler saying “Daddy, can we go yet?” after minutes, I’m going to crack. With that…

QB: Jay looked sharp today as the OL had its best practice pass protecting. Following a naked boot, he put a great spin move on a blitzing Bly that left Bly on the ground and Jay to pickup a huge chunk of yardage – but since you can’t hit QB’s it was ruled a sack. Jay was efficient all practice and is getting very better checking down to his RB’s and TE’s. He connected with Nate Jackson on a pair of beautiful bootlegs and Scheffler on a seam pattern – their favorite route together. Cutler led the 1st offense to a TD on the end-of-practice drive with several nice passes to Graham, Nate Jackson, D-Jack and the eventual TD to BMarsh on a bootleg. Ramsey looked god awful again throwing a terrible pick to Marlon McCree on a bootleg and later overthrowing Alridge in the flat. He looks very uncomfortable, to the point where the Broncos should seriously consider giving BVP a call. Hackney was solid again although he didn’t get many reps throwing the football.

RB: Hall was the best back on the field today, showing great vision and elusiveness. The offense is beginning to incorporate a lot of passes to the HB to take advantage of his pass-receiving skills. Young looked good too, making nice cuts and helping the 1st offense move the chains at the conclusion of practice. Young and Hall are the clear #1 and #2 RB’s right now. Torain continues to look solid as well, his balance is very impressive and it generally takes two defenders just to slow him down. In a good sign, he also put Dumervil on his butt pass-blocking, so he’s rounding out in skill set. Alridge fell back to Earth a bit, dropping a few passes but his speed is so impressive, the defense has to always know where he is – same with Eddie Royal. Hillis missed practice again so Sapp and Pittman worked at fullback. Sapp had a bad day with several dropped passes and a few missed blocks, one of which caused the 1st offense to go three and out after Webster destroyed Sapp to blow up a drive. Sapp got chewed out by Shanahan once and Bobby Turner later. Pittman looked okay, although he’s clearly not a natural run-blocker. He caught a swing pass for a big gain to go with some other catches, but at this point neither have shown anything compared to what Hillis brought before his injury.

WR: BMarsh was solid again, scoring a TD and also taking a bubble screen across the entire field for a big gain. His only drop was on a deep pass when JMFW had near perfect coverage and BMarsh tried to go over him like he did Bly earlier in the week but just couldn’t haul the pass in. Steve Watson was saying “Come’on BMarsh you gotta get that. There’s only 5 players in the world who can make that catch and you’re one of them.” D-Jack was solid, only had one drop and that was a very tough catch – but he did fumble a reverse exchange with Jay. He also went into crowd after making a tough catch. Stokley was mostly quiet but made a nice reception along the sideline against Morton. Bly had very good coverage on him all practice – Stokley appears to be the type of player once you play against him a lot – you catch on to his tendencies. Martinez dropped what would’ve been a big play on a beautiful pass from Cutler. Royal was pretty quiet with a few short catches. Colbert made a nice catch in front of Abdullah but had the play been live, Hamza would’ve lit him up and very likely broke up the pass. Martinez appears to have moved in front of Colbert as he was working more with the 2nd team while Colbert was working with the 3’s.

TE: This was a good day for the group, very active. Graham looked great and is beginning to get more and more involved in the short passing game. He didn’t drop a ball today and caught some individual praise from Shanahan for doing a great job. Nate Jackson has clearly moved ahead of Scheffler on the depth chart although Tony is getting plenty of work as well. Nate caught two nice bootleg passes to beat Niko and Lynch and made several nice grabs against zone coverage. He clearly has the team’s best hands, I’ve yet to see him drop a pass. Scheffler got a lot of work but didn’t see as many passes as Graham or Jackson. He made a nice turn-around grab in front of Manual. Pierce continues to work in with the 2’s and occasionally the 1’s as a blocking TE but I’ve yet to see him do much of anything in the passing game and he’s only average in blocking.

OL: Nalen didn’t practice and was replaced by Wiegmann while Holland was pushing the sled. The group is getting better, especially in the run game where by the end of practice they were opening a lot of holes for Young and Hall against the 1st and 2nd D’s. Hamilton’s rounding back into form and appears to be a nice compliment to Clady. Kuper had a nice practice, holding his own in some battles against Robertson whose mostly had his way the Broncos interior OL. Wiegmann was solid, but did get beat by Peterson and Mallard a few times. Polumbus continues to impress, he manhandled Engelberger on back-to-back plays while Pears had his best practice – shutting down Dumervil. Lichtensteiger got in some work on the 2nd unit and while he’s making a lot of mental mistakes, he clearly has a nice combo of speed and strength that could make him a future starter. The entire group had their best day pass-blocking, I didn’t see them give up one sack although the defense did not blitz as much today. Harris had his best practice of camp, although he still has a hard time with Moss he did very well against Crowder.

DL: Moss and Crowder are beginning to work in reps with the 1st unit. Moss can be simply unblockable at times, and he’s constantly catching the praise (and occasionally ire) of Barney Chavous. Other than Clady, no one can really block Moss consistently in the run game or pass-protection. Dumervil and Engerlberger were quiet while Crowder was in a spirited battle with Harris that went back and forth. Ekuban isn’t getting many reps at all but when he does get them, they’re with the 1st unit at DT – so go figure. Robertson continues to be dominant and times and stout at the least, he’s going to give Wiegmann and Gandy nightmares about going to practice all season. Thomas continues to get better and I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s starting by mid-season. I continue to be impressed by the effort of Peterson and Mallard – those two guys play the heart out every down. McKinley is an enigma to me, I think he’s got talent as it shows from time to time, but he just disappears for stretches and can’t seem to get much movement against Hamilton or Kuper.

LB: Whoever lines up with the #2’s at MLB appears to get motivated. For the first few days of camp, Niko worked with the #1’s and Webster was more impressive on the 2nd unit. Then they flipped and Niko was more impressive with the #2’s. Today they flipped back and again Webster was more impressive working with the 2nd group. Webster destroyed, I mean destroyed Sapp on an iso play and introduced himself to Torain and Hall on a few occasions. He also laid the wood on Alridge in space – Webster was everywhere today. Niko wasn’t bad today, though he was beat badly by Nate Jackson on a bootleg. Otherwise, he’s very consistent and reading his keys and is a very fundamental tackler with good pop. I’d imagine he registers 8-10 tackles every practice, but he’s not as flashy as Webster can be. While he didn’t look good in coverage, the defense introduced an interesting 4-3-3-1 look with only Abdullah at the deep safety, Bly cover the slot, Foxy and Champ outside and the 3 starting LB’s in. DJ and Boss were everywhere today, as usual. Boss was getting some praise from Shanahan. I heard “Atta way Nine, Seven; that’s why we brought you here. You must’ve been picked on by your big brother when you were little. You’re playing mean.” Winborn and Green both laid some serious licks on RB’s coming out of the backfield. I didn’t see much of Larsen or Beck to comment.

DB: Foxworth continues his very impressive camp by shutting down WR after WR not named Marshall. He made a great jump on a ball intended for Colbert and could’ve picked it had he not ran into his own man. Bly had a great day as well, picking off a Ramsey pass and completely shutting down Stokley on the day. Champ wasn’t even tested as far as I could tell. Lynch got beat by Nate Jackson on one play but played solid otherwise, laying a lick on Alridge that made the crowd ooh. McCree’s interception of Ramsey brought some praise from Shanahan while Abdullah continues to look great as the team’s #1 safety. He broke up a few passes intended for TE’s and Royal. Didn’t see much of Barrett or Manual although I recall one play where Barrett blew up the play in the backfield. JMFW had his best practice as a Bronco, working with the #2's in front of Paymah. He looked D-Will-esque in flying up to take out Young and Sapp on two plays. He had great coverage on BMarsh on the deep pass, then two plays later, BMarsh put a great move on him and JMFW was right there to break up the pass. Following the play, JMFW could be heard – “That’s right, I’m here.” I was so pumped, Jack “Mother ****ing” Williams just talked sh*t to Brandon Marshall. Wow.

ST: Paulescu was booming them. I mean booming them today as they worked on coverage teams. I didn’t see Kern kick any.

I’m not sure if I’ll make the evening practice, they’re generally walkthrough’s anyhow. If I do make it, I’ll be sure to post a report.


Nice job Montrose.

[LonghornBronco]

Not to porn shops, casinos, bars, stip clubs, cigar lounges, and most importantl... NOT TO TRAINING CAMP!

Anyways,

I really want to see DeWayne Robertson dominate come August 9th. Agreed?

Last time I checked it was a kids game... ???

[montrose]

Besides PR has Royal been working out of the slot like everyone thought he was going to be on draft day? Or as WR?

They've been using him in the slot, as an outside WR and have even used him in the backfield - motioning out in a few packages. I get the sense they're going to try to find innovative ways to get him the football.

Any word on Samie Parker getting any reps?

He's gotten little-to-none along with Sam, McDaniel and Russell. He's a sure fire cut.

That's ridiculous. I totaly agreed with you until the training camp statement. I can only wish that my dad would have brought me to camp when I was young. What a great way to build your love for a team and memories with your parents.

Okay, let me rephrase my thoughts on bringing kids to camp. If you want to bring your kids, by all means - it's a wonderful experience that helps build love for the team and provides a family moment. But if you're kid turns out to be like 99.9% of the other kids that go and spends the entire three-hour practice crying (babies) or whining to leave (toddlers and up), could you please leave? It's nothing personal but it makes enjoying camp a miserable experience for everyone around. Today, after a baby was crying in the 100 degree heat for 2 hours - the Dad finally got up and left to a round of applause by my section. I realize parents want to make memories, but the baby/kid doesn't want to be there. They're hot, it's boring and they're making the entire experience miserable for the other hundreds of people that just want to go and enjoy their football team. Most of all, the team organizes and puts on Fan Fair every year for this reason. Fan Fair is designed to be the family friendly event to take your children where there are plenty of things to keep their interest. Training Camp is nothing but sitting in the hot sun watching football players walk through plays for an hour, then compete in skills specific drills for an hour only to watch some limited-contact scrimmaging for an hour. I'm a die-hard fan, so I appreciate it. But when I was 6 or 7, let alone a toddler or baby, I'd be bored to death at training camp. One security guard and I had the idea that any families bringing babies or toddlers should sit in the end zone that they generally use for overflow seating. It's under a lot of shade which would keep the temperature down, it's farther away from the action to eliminate into-the-crowd accidents (already in camp D-Jack went flying into the crowd and Cutler threw a ball away that was a laser into a group of kids) and it would allow those families to have their outing while letting those who really want to enjoy the action be able to do so.

[Los Broncos]

Good report, thanks.

[Cito Pelon]

I think anybody questioning why Moss is running 2nd team is asking a good question.

[Inkana7]

I think anybody questioning why Moss is running 2nd team is asking a good question.

So is Marcus Thomas. Scheffler is playing with the 3s.

Shanny likes to make people fight for their jobs.

[hambone13]

Thanks for giving your thoughts. Honestly except for the old guys I don't find the Fan guys too bad (I never heard them mention the Marshall/Elam, Cutler/Favre moves tho)... Mosher and Evans are rather useless at times, but you'll rarely see them be on the COMPLETE opposite side of the field on a player. at least i never heard it, certainly never heard anything this different last year with the reports here.

Almost all the radio personalities at The Fan have to have a little "shock value" to their quotes/comments, etc. which makes them all annoying at times. Mosher makes my skin crawl with his lack of creativity and whiny voice. The only guy I really miss from the old shows is "Lou from Littleton". I think he ended up on am850. I loved that guy, accurate or not, he was a real fan.....

[jsco70]

My absolute favorite memory of Mike Evans stems from his first year with the Fan. Denver had just won the Super Bowl and was looking for the repeat. The Broncos were poised to play Dallas and Evans came on the air stating he had a "dream" Dallas was going to defeat the Broncos handily and stop TD in his tracks. He rambled all week about it and really made himself look foolish.

Without taking the time to pull the stats, Denver dominated the Cowboys. I think they put up almost 50 points and TD ran wild. I have never taken Evans seriously ever since.

[jsco70]

They've been using him in the slot, as an outside WR and have even used him in the backfield - motioning out in a few packages. I get the sense they're going to try to find innovative ways to get him the football.



He's gotten little-to-none along with Sam, McDaniel and Russell. He's a sure fire cut.



Okay, let me rephrase my thoughts on bringing kids to camp. If you want to bring your kids, by all means - it's a wonderful experience that helps build love for the team and provides a family moment. But if you're kid turns out to be like 99.9% of the other kids that go and spends the entire three-hour practice crying (babies) or whining to leave (toddlers and up), could you please leave? It's nothing personal but it makes enjoying camp a miserable experience for everyone around. Today, after a baby was crying in the 100 degree heat for 2 hours - the Dad finally got up and left to a round of applause by my section. I realize parents want to make memories, but the baby/kid doesn't want to be there. They're hot, it's boring and they're making the entire experience miserable for the other hundreds of people that just want to go and enjoy their football team. Most of all, the team organizes and puts on Fan Fair every year for this reason. Fan Fair is designed to be the family friendly event to take your children where there are plenty of things to keep their interest. Training Camp is nothing but sitting in the hot sun watching football players walk through plays for an hour, then compete in skills specific drills for an hour only to watch some limited-contact scrimmaging for an hour. I'm a die-hard fan, so I appreciate it. But when I was 6 or 7, let alone a toddler or baby, I'd be bored to death at training camp. One security guard and I had the idea that any families bringing babies or toddlers should sit in the end zone that they generally use for overflow seating. It's under a lot of shade which would keep the temperature down, it's farther away from the action to eliminate into-the-crowd accidents (already in camp D-Jack went flying into the crowd and Cutler threw a ball away that was a laser into a group of kids) and it would allow those families to have their outing while letting those who really want to enjoy the action be able to do so.

I agree with you about kids at camp to a point. There's always exceptions. I've taken my son there for the past four seasons and he's ten. But he really enjoys it and has never complained or caused problems. In fact, three years ago we were in California and had the opportunity to go on the field during the Chargers training camp. He met Marty Schottenheimer, Doug Flutie among others. He had the time of his life.

But taking a baby in 100 degree heat is crossing a line and a bad idea. Same with dragging your kid there when they aren't really interested. However, at the end of the day, the fans with kids have the same right as those without to go to camp.

I almost forgot, thanks so much for taking the time to go and report. Those of us stuck in the office greatly appreciate it!

[That One Guy]

I agree with you about kids at camp to a point. There's always exceptions. I've taken my son there for the past four seasons and he's ten. But he really enjoys it and has never complained or caused problems. In fact, three years ago we were in California and had the opportunity to go on the field during the Chargers training camp. He met Marty Schottenheimer, Doug Flutie among others. He had the time of his life.

But taking a baby in 100 degree heat is crossing a line and a bad idea. Same with dragging your kid there when they aren't really interested. However, at the end of the day, the fans with kids have the same right as those without to go to camp.

I almost forgot, thanks so much for taking the time to go and report. Those of us stuck in the office greatly appreciate it!

And, technically, Montrose has the right to tell the people their kids are a bunch of whiny little f'n headaches. Doesn't mean he should make a scene though and it doesn't mean they should sieze their right to ruin everyone else's day for their own pleasure.

[hambone13]

I agree with you about kids at camp to a point. There's always exceptions. I've taken my son there for the past four seasons and he's ten. But he really enjoys it and has never complained or caused problems. In fact, three years ago we were in California and had the opportunity to go on the field during the Chargers training camp. He met Marty Schottenheimer, Doug Flutie among others. He had the time of his life.

But taking a baby in 100 degree heat is crossing a line and a bad idea. Same with dragging your kid there when they aren't really interested. However, at the end of the day, the fans with kids have the same right as those without to go to camp.

I almost forgot, thanks so much for taking the time to go and report. Those of us stuck in the office greatly appreciate it!

IMO, if one doesn't recognize, first and foremost their kids are that uncomfortable and secondly, how annoying and disruptive they are to people around them, there is a strong chance, no matter what the age of the child is, there is a parental character issue issue that might need to be addressed. It's like people who choose to bring toddlers and infants to movies and don't leave when they are disruptive. It's not like they're on an airplane and don't have any options.

Personally, I think it's irresponsible parenting, socially rude and a bad example to your kids (if they're old enough to be reasoned with and/or disciplined) to burden other people with your child's discomfort or lack of social discipline.

[watermock]

hear hear

[Colin]

Josh Barrett and Jack Williams are two of the players that intrigue me the most heading into the draft. Since they are both Broncos, can someone please give those of us that cannot make it to the practices in person a perspective on these two players?

I just wanted you to know that I look forward to finding a few minutes after the kids are asleep to get my nightly update / fix on what is going on. Thanks in advance.

[Rank&File]

IMO, if one doesn't recognize, first and foremost their kids are that uncomfortable and secondly, that annoying and disruptive to people around them, there is a strong chance, no matter what the age of the child is, there is a parental character issue issue that might need to be addressed. It's like people who choose to bring toddlers and infants to movies and don't leave when they are disruptive. It's not like they're on an airplane and don't have any options.

Personally, I think it's irresponsible parenting, socially rude and a bad example to your kids (if they're old enough to be reasoned with and/or disciplined) to burden other people with your child's discomfort or lack of social discipline.


Great post

[Cito Pelon]

So is Marcus Thomas. Scheffler is playing with the 3s.

Shanny likes to make people fight for their jobs.

Neither you nor I know what goes on between Shanny's ears. There's a method in his madness, I guess. There's 9 days left in TC plus 4 weeks of exhibitions, we'll see what the Mad Genius comes up with opening night.

[kmonty]

Has it occurred to no one that Scheffler might be getting backup snaps (which are fewer in quantity) because they're taking it easy on him and his foot? Just thinking out loud...

[24champ]

One final note before getting to the report, parents: please, pleaseeeeee don’t bring your kids to camp. If I hear one more baby crying non-stop of toddler saying “Daddy, can we go yet?” after minutes, I’m going to crack. With that…


Exactly...leave them at home...


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[kmonty]

Exactly...leave them at home...


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LOL at least they gave the kid her duck too!

[broncocalijohn]

I notice the casual "no one can consistently block him except Clady" ..... so is Clady pretty much the future 10 year LT at this point, no questions?

when it says that hamilton compliments CLady and not the other way around, I would say that is my thinking too.

[fontaine]

Scheffler, Moss, and Thomas are the most intriguing players IMO.

If they can make it work and continue progressing then we'll have two extra dimensions on this team that we haven't had for the longest time.

A true pass catching TE will do wonders for our passing and red zone offense.

And if Moss/Thomas continue to build then our DL, for the first time in a while, can become an asset insteady of a liability on the field.

[Ratboy]

The only reason Jackson is taking more reps is because Tony Scheffler doesn't need to practice.

[broncocalijohn]

The only reason Jackson is taking more reps is because Tony Scheffler doesn't need to practice.

unless his last name is Foneco, I wouldnt exactly put it that way. Jackson DOES need the practice.

[BroncoInferno]

I think anybody questioning why Moss is running 2nd team is asking a good question.

No, Shanny always does things this way. He likes to make the youngsters fight for and earn their jobs. If you will recall, Dumervil was actually working with the 3rd team early in last years training camp. It doesn't mean much at this point.

[Mountain Bronco]

The organization encourages a family outing to training camp. Don't leave the kids at home, just be a good parent and discipline your kids so you can take them to places like this without pissing off everyone around you.

[Person]

That's ridiculous. I totaly agreed with you until the training camp statement. I can only wish that my dad would have brought me to camp when I was young. What a great way to build your love for a team and memories with your parents.

It sounds great in theory however most kids have the attention span of 3 seconds and get bored extremely fast and to quote montrose they end up saying "Daddy when can we go?" If you feel like your kid will be interested the whole time then by all means. However, that is usually not that case and your 4 year old would much rather be watching sponge bob than Jay Cutler.