PDA

View Full Version : 24's Training Camp Report 7/28


24champ
07-28-2008, 03:21 PM
2008 Broncos Training Camp


http://web1.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/Images/08%20Training%20Camp/tc_main_080728.jpg


Practice time: 8:15 AM
Location: Dove Valley Training Facility
Weather: Warm and then got really hot. Sunny.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/24champbailey/news.jpg

Orange Mane (http://www.orangemane.com)
Bronco Talk (http://broncotalk.net/)
Mile High Report (http://www.milehighreport.com/)
Denver Post (http://www.denverpost.com/broncos)
Rocky Mountain News (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/)
DenverBroncos.com Top Stories (http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=346)
CBS 4 Denver (http://cbs4denver.com/broncos)
ABC 7 Denver (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/denverbroncos/index.html)
Fox 11/31 Denver (http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/pages/Sports/Index;jsessionid=8FB7C7855AE125705644B3C148946314? pageId=6.3.2)
NBC 9 Denver (http://www.9news.com/sports/pro_football/nfl/denver_broncos/default.aspx)



Greetings my fellow training Camp junkies,

This might be my last report, I don't know if they are holding training camp on the 8th and 9th which is when I get back into Denver. At any rate, I had a lot of fun doing these and interacting with Montrose, Oskie, Apa and Kaylore. Disco actually made it in today with his kid...they both sported orange afros. Pretty funny and cute.

I also greatly appreciate the fan mail I get. Even getting some PMs from people from Vandy checking in on Cutler and Winborne. I learned a lot about our team these past 3-4 days and what to expect about the team. Which I will get into later. I hope Montrose continues to do reports this week and also looking forward to hearing from Oskie, Apa, Kahn about this team next weekend. I want to hear about who is making progress.

Anyway here is my report and some pics to follow later when I upload them from Photobucket...


Offense


Quarterbacks

Jay Cutler- Didn't look too good, needs to work on his decision making a little more. Once he gets some more repetition throwing to his receivers, he'll be fine. He threw a great pass to Marshall who ran it in for a TD.

Darrel Hackney- Consistent as a QB, makes several good decisions when throwing the ball. We were discussing about Hackney, and while he did good. I don't know if I would be comfortable with him as our 2nd. Doesn't have the experience like Ramsey has.

Patrick Ramsey- Flat out sucked today. Montrose is right, he looks like Preston Parsons out there. He had ONE good throw to Scheff I think, but that was it. Disappointing to see.

Running Backs-

Selvin Young- Looks consistent to me, he doesn't make many mistakes. He wasn't out on the field a lot today, but I feel comfortable with him as our number one guy.

Michael Pittman- He did alright, played in some fullback sets in for Hillis I assume. I do not see Pittman making this team. Too much talent to compete with and the other guys are clearly getting up to speed and learning the system.


Ryan Torain- Followed up yesterday with another brilliant performance. I really love how he cuts back, he seems to get a better feel of the offense everyday. I could see a RBBC coming back with Torain/Young.

Andre Hall- Did well yesterday, but wasn't noticeable much today thought I saw. Much of the attention went to Young/Torain/Aldridge, which brings me to...

Aldridge- Seems like every so often that he carries the rock, he can take off like a rocket. He has a problem going up the middle and isn't effective there. Which leads me to believe that Aldridge will be our Darren Sproles, frankly because he isn't going to be an every down running back and the fact that yesterday and today he did some kick returns. He has a good chance to make the team, needs to continue to improve.

Payton Hillis- Didn't notice him out there, apparently he was out. Hope he isn't injured bad.

Cecil Sapp- After yesterday's good showing, Sapp looked pretty average on the block and in receiving. Needs to hurry up and do well before Hillis comes back and takes the job.

Wide Receivers

Brandon Marshall- Looked very good today, I believe he is rounding back into form. He wasn't perfect, but he was close. Took a nice pass from Cutler for 80 yards.

Glenn Martinez- See him as a 4 or 5 on the team. He does the small things well, and blocks adequately too.

Eddie Royal- Still needs to get the timing down with Jay Cutler. They missed a great opportunity to hook up on a long throw by

Darrell Jackson- D-Jack did alright today. Is most likely the #2 guy on WR. I don't see anyone else challenging for that #2 spot.

Keary Colbert- Was a lot better than yesterday. Made a few catches, however on one play he should have gripped the ball a lot better than he should have. He bobbled the ball and if he was tackled in a real game, he would have lost it. Not a good thing to see, and he was disappointed about that catch.

Brandon Stokely- Didn't see him much today, he made a couple catches from I saw by beating JMFW on one play.

Clifford Russell- Was more noticeable than he was the entire camp. Made some solid catches, and did some special team work. Not a bad day, but I doubt he makes the squad.

Marquay McDaniel- Third day in a row where he wasn't noticeable.

Taylor Jacobs- Was nowhere to be seen, once again.

Tight Ends

Tony Scheffler- Continues to roll! I wouldn't put it past Scheff to have a Pro-Bowl season if he stays healthy. He makes the routes and catching the ball SO EASY. He has unbelievable hands.

Nate Jackson- Wasn't noticeable much, ran plays with the third team, was next to Polumbus and did well for blocking.

Brett Pierce- He had a fumble after catching the ball. Wasn't even a hard hit, not a good sign for a TE.

Chad Mustard- Didn't see him, actually if you go back to my previous reports. I haven't seen him all camp.

Daniel Graham- Was on the field a lot, didn't see any spectacular plays or catches from him. I suspect it was because Graham was helping out Harris and Polumbus on plays.

Offensive Line

Ryan Clady- Total beast. I am not worried about the LT position this season.

Erik Pears- Had a false start, was the only time I noticed him really. Like with most lineman during a game, you only see them when they commit a mistake.

Tom Nalen- Not much to report here. Someone get him a new pair of shorts that fit him. Thanks.

Montrae Holland- TFTP...and I didn't see him doing the sled at all. Might be doing that this afternoon, but really didn't see Holland anywhere.

Chris Kuper- Did pretty well today, he held his ground despite his injury. He does well on the running plays.

Ryan Harris- He was better today positionally, I focused on the RT spot a lot today, kept pointing out and making sure people were focused on Harris. He is getting better as far as Position goes, but as Requiem noted yesterday in my report. He is probably not strong enough for the position yet. He wasn't great or good today, but he wasn't junk either.

Ben Hamilton- Didn't notice him on the line much.

Polumbus- Had help from Nate Jackson and Graham. My opinion of this Puff is that he is good actually in the run game. I have never read his scouting reports, but he seems to be a road grader type of player. As far as pass protection, he needs to work on getting in better position in passing situations. He is an interesting player on the line thats for sure.



That's about it for the offense......defense next.

vancejohnson82
07-28-2008, 03:30 PM
nice....

seems like Colbert may have brought his stonehands with him to Denver...I thought maybe the new scenery would do somehting for his psyche...the #2 WR position is a definite area of concern.

Pittman will be on the fringe you think? I think the fact that he can play fullback may help him make the squad...im assuming we take 5 or 6 RBs out of camp..is that a fair guess?

Young, Torain, Hall, Pittman, Hillis, and from what you guys are saying..Aldridge

I only see Sapp being cut

Kaylore
07-28-2008, 03:32 PM
Chad Mustard- Didn't see him, actually if you go back to my previous reports. I haven't seen him all camp.
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/5391/favre2speaks30608308an0.jpg

montrose
07-28-2008, 03:37 PM
Mustard's on PUP.

Disco Man
07-28-2008, 03:39 PM
Nice seeing you for a bit today!!!!!!! Wanted to stay up there on the hill next to you guys but she wanted to play. I stayed over next to the building for about an hour and a half checking out the special teams. From what I saw we might have a kicker this year that just might be able to kick off deeper than the ten yard line!!!!!!!!!!!!

epicSocialism4tw
07-28-2008, 03:42 PM
Brandon Marshall- Looked very good today, I believe he is rounding back into form. He wasn't perfect, but he was close. Took a nice pass from Cutler for 80 yards.

So, his arm is still attached? EGADS! Its a froggin' miracle! ;D

ludo21
07-28-2008, 03:44 PM
Nice, thanks 24...

montrose
07-28-2008, 03:47 PM
So, his arm is still attached? EGADS! Its a froggin' miracle! ;D

I get the feeling BMarsh will be okay for the most part but I wouldn't be surprised if we get the occasional drop now and then. My biggest concern his ability to break tackles and stiff-arm, as the Broncos haven't gone full-live yet at practice.

Hotrod
07-28-2008, 03:51 PM
Mustard will return when Mustard says he will return.

Thanks 24 good stuff

24champ
07-28-2008, 03:54 PM
Defense

Defensive Line-

Dwayne Robertson- He was on the field today, limited reps.

Jarvis Moss- I thought he had his best camp today. He looks very quick once the ball is snapped.

Marcus Thomas- Like Moss, Thomas is very quick off the ball. He is very strong as well. I think on one play he knocked Casey Weigman on his ***.

Elvis Dumervil- Did well today too, beating Pears on occasion.

John Engleberger- Amazing that EVERY practice I have attended, Berger is the first guy on the field. Well before practice begins. He did well, and only once I saw him blow past Harris.

Ekuban- Didn't notice him today, although that could be because yesterday I heard he was moved to DT, whether that is permanent or not I have no idea.

Steven Harris- Didn't notice him much today.

Josh Mallard- Mallard is consistent. Continues to show heart and grit on the field. Busting his ass to get the ball carrier.

Kenny Peterson- Didn't see him out there.

Tim Crowder- He looked very strong today, played against Polumbus a bit today and is a strong DE pushing back the OL. I would like to see him be a little quicker and use better technique to get to the QB. He'll be the most complete DE on the team if he can figure out a way to get to the QB.

Linebackers-

DJ Williams- Was absent from morning stretches and some drills. I was worried because I thought he got injured or something. DJ was fine in the scrimmages and such. He looks comfortable out there.

Niko Koutouvides- Ran with the second team again today. He is a hard hitter thats for sure, still a little uneasy about his coverage skills.

Boss Bailey- He is really good. He is great in coverage, netted an INT today. As well as rushing the passer. This guy is FAST and flys to the ball very quick. I like what I have seen from him.

Nate Webster- Didn't see him a whole lot, much like yesterday he ran with first team and was alright. Nothing spectacular from him. I am a little worried about the Mike spot this year.


Jamie Winborn- Continues to do well, most of the time he shined was on special teams. He is quick to get down the field on kickoffs.

Larsen- Saw very little of him, but he looked pretty good in drills since Boss and DJ were absent.

Secondary


Champ Bailey- After yesterday, Champ returned and got a sick interception. He was playing D-J-O a little bit, and he closed in very quick to get an INT that only Champ would get. Impressive.

Dominique Foxworth- Still being very consistent. He also brought some wood to his game. He knocked Aldridge on his ass, gotta watch where your going rookie. :giggle:

Karl Paymah- Didn't notice him much today other than getting burned by Marshall.

Dre Bly- Consistent, doing a lot better these past few days. Looks like our #2 guy.

JMFW- I think he makes the team, but he needs some experience and getting better reads on the play. He closes on the receiver very well.

John Lynch- Lynch still looks good in run support, but no so much on Coverage.

Hamza- Pencil him in as the starter, he is the best safety out there. He is just everywhere and I haven't seen too many mistakes from him.

Marquand Manuel- Did well, didn't blitz as much as yesterday,

Josh Barrett- Saw him on a few plays, I think a time or two he was playing corner. Which is surprising, I thought the knock on him was that he was slow?

Marlon McCree- Wasn't noticeable much today.


Special Teams-

Special teams worked on kickoffs and kick returns. Royal, Andre Hall, Martinez all returned kicks, much like yesterday. Prater looks like he is the real deal, however I would like to see how he does in a real game come pre-season.


Pics are up next.

Broncosfreak_56
07-28-2008, 03:54 PM
Awsome report. Thanks.

24champ
07-28-2008, 04:01 PM
Mustard's on PUP.

That explains it then.

Pittman will be on the fringe you think? I think the fact that he can play fullback may help him make the squad...im assuming we take 5 or 6 RBs out of camp..is that a fair guess?

Young, Torain, Hall, Pittman, Hillis, and from what you guys are saying..Aldridge

I would say Pittman is out because pretty much what you see is what you get. With the other backs like Torain, Young, Aldridge. They have steadily improved everyday and show a lot of promise. It is well known that Shanny likes to bring some vets in to show the Rookies how to handle business in the NFL. The biggest wildcard to me is Andre Hall, he is versatile as far as the roster goes, plays special teams and seems to be a decent third option on the depth chart. If Aldridge keeps burning the turf for 15-20 yard gains, things could get interesting.

bowtown
07-28-2008, 04:03 PM
Mustard's on PUP.

Torn hamstring, i think he's out at least 8 weeks.

epicSocialism4tw
07-28-2008, 04:03 PM
Dre Bly- Consistent, doing a lot better these past few days. Looks like our #2 guy

If he's not our #2 corner, were in big trouble.

Houshyamama
07-28-2008, 04:06 PM
Josh Barrett- Saw him on a few plays, I think a time or two he was playing corner. Which is surprising, I thought the knock on him was that he was slow?


Thanks 24.

I think Barrett ran a sub 4.4 40 at the combine yeah? Like a 4.36 or some ridiculous number.

24champ
07-28-2008, 04:07 PM
If he's not our #2 corner, were in big trouble.

I was referring to Day 1, where he didn't look anything like our #2 corner. He's got his ass in gear after that poor showing.

Kaylore
07-28-2008, 04:09 PM
Josh Barrett- Saw him on a few plays, I think a time or two he was playing corner. Which is surprising, I thought the knock on him was that he was slow?
Barrett's timed speed is super-fast, but he doesn't play as fast as the clock when his pads go on as opposed to say Royal who looks as fast as his speed in Indy suggests. That doesn't mean Barrett is slow.

kmonty
07-28-2008, 04:11 PM
Kory Lichtensteiger has disappeared off the face of the Earth... ROFL!

Great job, thanks much again for all the reports

Disco Man
07-28-2008, 04:11 PM
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k84/DiscoMan1972/IMG_2725.jpg
Training Camp Pic

summerdenver
07-28-2008, 04:13 PM
Polumbus- Had help from Nate Jackson and Graham. My opinion of this Puff is that he is good actually in the run game. I have never read his scouting reports, but he seems to be a road grader type of player. As far as pass protection, he needs to work on getting in better position in passing situations. He is an interesting player on the line thats for sure.



Thanks for a great report. What position does polumbus play? RT?

Also I heard TFTP on fm104.3 and he sounded contrite and was not complaining.

Mountain Bronco
07-28-2008, 04:13 PM
Who is going to be the 2nd Safety? That seems like an area of concern as Lynch sounds slow out there.

montrose
07-28-2008, 04:15 PM
Thanks 24.

I think Barrett ran a sub 4.4 40 at the combine yeah? Like a 4.36 or some ridiculous number.

He doesn't look nearly that fast on the field. Not slow, but Abdullah seems to cover a lot more ground.

Kory Lichtensteiger has disappeared off the face of the Earth... ROFL!

He had a false start today. He's currently stuck on the 3rd team and hasn't shown a whole lot at this point. He'll probably make the team because of where he was drafted, but I could certainly see him having an "injury" that lands him on IR. With that, he really needs to practice and IR players cannot practice per league rules (although NE has broken this rule for years).

broncofan2438
07-28-2008, 04:17 PM
Nice report 24, thanks for helping those that cant make it out there

kmonty
07-28-2008, 04:18 PM
He doesn't look nearly that fast on the field. Not slow, but Abdullah seems to cover a lot more ground.



He had a false start today. He's currently stuck on the 3rd team and hasn't shown a whole lot at this point. He'll probably make the team because of where he was drafted, but I could certainly see him having an "injury" that lands him on IR. With that, he really needs to practice and IR players cannot practice per league rules (although NE has broken this rule for years).

LOL I love it montrose. You've already got all the conspiracies and whatnot all figgered out!

montrose
07-28-2008, 04:20 PM
Thanks for a great report. What position does polumbus play? RT?

Polumbus has been 2nd team RT all of camp.

Who is going to be the 2nd Safety? That seems like an area of concern as Lynch sounds slow out there.

Abdullah will be the every-down deep safety with Lynch up near the box on running downs and being replaced by McCree on passing downs.

lex
07-28-2008, 04:21 PM
I wish we would get Jarvis Moss and Boss Bailey on the FG block team. In a close game, Moss blocked two to save UFs national championship against South Carolina....plus Boss Bailey has/had a 40 something inch vertical and was all world at getting up there on FG blocks.

Denver724
07-28-2008, 04:23 PM
Is Lorne Sam out there? I have not seen his name mentioned.

Orange_Beard
07-28-2008, 04:25 PM
Thanks.

montrose
07-28-2008, 04:27 PM
Is Lorne Sam out there? I have not seen his name mentioned.

He makes a catch every now and then but doesn't see many reps. Likely camp fodder.

24champ
07-28-2008, 04:32 PM
Disco and Disco Jr. in the HOUSE!!!!

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/24champbailey/Training%20Camp%20O8/BroncosTrainingCamp092.jpg

Ryan Torain

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/24champbailey/Training%20Camp%20O8/BroncosTrainingCamp093.jpg

Tony Scheffler

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/24champbailey/Training%20Camp%20O8/BroncosTrainingCamp094.jpg

24champ
07-28-2008, 04:39 PM
Some drills...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/24champbailey/Training%20Camp%20O8/BroncosTrainingCamp096.jpg

Can't get around Clady.:giggle:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/24champbailey/Training%20Camp%20O8/BroncosTrainingCamp097.jpg

Kaylore
07-28-2008, 04:40 PM
Hey 24, how did Spencer Larsen look?

24champ
07-28-2008, 04:44 PM
Hey 24, how did Spencer Larsen look?

He was pretty good in the drills, got more reps in that way and I think Webster moved out to Strong side during those drills. During scrimmage I didn't see him that much as he was on third team.

kmonty
07-28-2008, 04:44 PM
I just want to see you're taking really sweet pictures 24. Love the o-line stuff especially. I can almost scout my Broncos, one pic at a time. :)

Bravo
07-28-2008, 04:46 PM
The FB spot is going to be the toss up position. Pittman I believe can play both FB and RB, blocks pretty well, this is a plus for him. I think Hillis has so much talent he is a keeper even if he has some developement to do. Runs hard, blocks OK, not the best but catches the ball well. Sapp, also has RB potential, but with all of the RBs we have, its not a big plus. Blocking So So. He has power in his favor. Selvin, Hall I think are in. Torain will be one of the best in the future. This leaves Aldridge. I like this kid. Not big enough to hit the middle, but is a Water Bug with the ball in space. All in all probably one will be out. Sapp, Pittman or Aldridge. Aldridge could go to PS.

24champ
07-28-2008, 04:48 PM
I just want to see you're taking really sweet pictures 24. Love the o-line stuff especially. I can almost scout my Broncos, one pic at a time. :)

Alright, here's two more.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/24champbailey/Training%20Camp%20O8/BroncosTrainingCamp098.jpg

and

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/24champbailey/Training%20Camp%20O8/BroncosTrainingCamp100.jpg

You can see Clady destroying someone.

kmonty
07-28-2008, 04:49 PM
Some drills...

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/24champbailey/Training%20Camp%20O8/BroncosTrainingCamp096.jpg

Can't get around Clady.:giggle:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/24champbailey/Training%20Camp%20O8/BroncosTrainingCamp097.jpg

Who is #29? Pittman is 28 on the official roster... ???

BlaK-Argentina
07-28-2008, 05:35 PM
I can't wait to watch Clady, Young and Torain. I think this season is going to be exciting regardless of how we finish. I'm just going to enjoy it.

Natedogg
07-28-2008, 05:38 PM
Nalen has the same shorts as my fat 50 year old dad!

Broncosmang
07-28-2008, 06:07 PM
Nalen has the same shorts as my fat 50 year old dad!


Dude, Nalen can wear a friggin miniskirt for all I care. The guy is a freakin animal and the most underrated center in the league. How he's only made 5 pro bowls is beyond me.

Thanks for the update champ. Great stuff. Being in the Philly area it's hard to get much other than Eagles rant.

kmonty
07-28-2008, 06:28 PM
Hey mang. Nice to see you from BroncoTalk. Welcome to the Mane. :)

Broncosmang
07-28-2008, 06:31 PM
Thanks dude. I was a regular poster on the freak for years under a different name. Nice to see find a place to extol the virtues of our Broncos.

Los Broncos
07-28-2008, 07:27 PM
Nice report as always, I'm high on Clady, all I've heard are good things about him.

Selvin and Sheffler are going to be exciting out there this season.

DenverDuo
07-28-2008, 07:39 PM
Nalen has the same shorts as my fat 50 year old dad!

Clady's got them too...

Person
07-28-2008, 08:35 PM
I always read and never post, I need to change that. Ryan Clady is totally awesome and puts bronco fans mind's at ease for the o-line. I woud like to see Marcus Thomas and DeWayne Robertson dominate this year. If that could happen it would make life for the rest of the defense a lot easier

theAPAOps5
07-28-2008, 09:13 PM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/24champbailey/Training%20Camp%20O8/BroncosTrainingCamp100.jpg

You can see Clady destroying someone.

Yeah I am pretty sure he would get called for holding on that one!

theAPAOps5
07-28-2008, 09:13 PM
Clady's got them too...

No he doesn't

Broncosfreak_56
07-28-2008, 09:18 PM
Yeah I am pretty sure he would get called for holding on that one!

Yeah, thats what I thought when I saw that too.

Inkana7
07-28-2008, 09:24 PM
It probably didn't look as much like holding in real time. You can get any sort of call from a still frame of an action sequence. Remember that site some Pats fan made of about 25 different penalties he "saw" on the David Tyree play?

Broncosfreak_56
07-28-2008, 09:28 PM
It probably didn't look as much like holding in real time. You can get any sort of call from a still frame of an action sequence. Remember that site some Pats fan made of about 25 different penalties he "saw" on the David Tyree play?

LOL I haven't seen that. Is that site still up?

Inkana7
07-28-2008, 09:31 PM
LOL I haven't seen that. Is that site still up?

No, about a week later he took it down and apologized.

Broncosfreak_56
07-28-2008, 09:33 PM
No, about a week later he took it down and apologized.

Damn.

socalorado
07-28-2008, 09:47 PM
Man, i have been waiting for this!
Thanks 24Champ! Great report!

This is the shot! the next beast in DEN!
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/24champbailey/Training%20Camp%20O8/BroncosTrainingCamp093.jpg

bronco610
07-28-2008, 11:20 PM
Thanks 24, love the reports:thumbsup: