View Full Version : Right Wing Propaganda Campaign Bears Fruit
Rohirrim
07-28-2008, 01:01 PM
Gunman opened fire at Unitarian Church to get the "liberals."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25872864/
Talk radio, Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, Rove, et al can be proud today. Their manipulation of weak minds is working.
Dudeskey
07-28-2008, 01:02 PM
Gunman opened fire at Unitarian Church to get the "liberals."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25872864/
Talk radio, Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, Rove, et al can be proud today. Their manipulation of weak minds is working.
Probably Michael Savage... I consider Rush & Hannity to be relatively benign... JMO
TexanBob
07-28-2008, 01:03 PM
Brilliant. Just like Clinton blaming talk radio for Oklahoma City. Way to demonize the opposition, Roh. So, can I blame al-Bama the next time a Muslim blows up a market?
Rohirrim
07-28-2008, 01:05 PM
Brilliant. Just like Clinton blaming talk radio for Oklahoma City. Way to demonize the opposition, Roh. So, can I blame al-Bama the next time a Muslim blows up a market?
I'm just taking the words from the guy's mouth. He went there to shoot "liberals."
Where do you think he got that hatred?
Rigs11
07-28-2008, 01:18 PM
Brilliant. Just like Clinton blaming talk radio for Oklahoma City. Way to demonize the opposition, Roh. So, can I blame al-Bama the next time a Muslim blows up a market?
oh please, did you forget the limbaugh plan to cause chaos at the dem convention already?
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/15980105/detail.html
Dudeskey
07-28-2008, 02:20 PM
oh please, did you forget the limbaugh plan to cause chaos at the dem convention already?
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/15980105/detail.html
Know what an agent provocateur is? I'm willing to bet there will be some of these @ the DNC convention. Limbaugh's call will already have been answered via our taxpayer dollars...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur
alkemical
07-28-2008, 03:32 PM
t's Official: Bush White House Fed Fox News Talking Points (http://www.disinfo.com/content/story.php?title=Its-Official-Bush-White-House-Fed-Fox-News-Talking-Points)
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Posted by ralph 2 days ago View profile
Countdown with Keith Olbermann reports:
It is one of those things you kind of assume to be true all along ... and yet are shocked when hard confirmation actually comes. Our fourth story tonight, from the former White House press secretary himself, word that the Bush White House routinely sent — and as far as we know, still sends — literal talking points to Fox News for its primetime propagandists, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity and others ... to spout, as if ventriloquist dummies, as if they had thought of it themselves, as if they had come to those opinions independently, as if there had been a process either fair ... or balanced.
bronco militia
07-28-2008, 04:05 PM
t's Official: Bush White House Fed Fox News Talking Points (http://www.disinfo.com/content/story.php?title=Its-Official-Bush-White-House-Fed-Fox-News-Talking-Points)
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Posted by ralph 2 days ago View profile
Countdown with Keith Olbermann reports:
It is one of those things you kind of assume to be true all along ... and yet are shocked when hard confirmation actually comes. Our fourth story tonight, from the former White House press secretary himself, word that the Bush White House routinely sent — and as far as we know, still sends — literal talking points to Fox News for its primetime propagandists, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity and others ... to spout, as if ventriloquist dummies, as if they had thought of it themselves, as if they had come to those opinions independently, as if there had been a process either fair ... or balanced.
this pissing contest with Fox and MsNBC is getting uglier and uglier every day
alkemical
07-28-2008, 04:23 PM
Oh, i agree
this pissing contest with Fox and MsNBC is getting uglier and uglier every day
You mean the "Keith Olbermann making Fox News look like the **** pile it really is on a nightly basis" pissing contest?
Its not a pissing contest if one guy has pissed all over the other and the second guy can't even muster a solid stream.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-28-2008, 08:22 PM
It's Official: Bush White House Fed Fox News Talking Points (http://www.disinfo.com/content/story.php?title=Its-Official-Bush-White-House-Fed-Fox-News-Talking-Points)
Now there's a shocker. ;)
Spider
07-28-2008, 08:39 PM
Heard about this on the radio today ..My first thought was ..... either texan Bob , W*GS , DBruleU, Cah or Cutthemdown was having a bad day ....... I ruled out W*GS when I heard the shooter didnt give a weather forecast after he was done .........
Cah ....... i was able to rule him out cause the shooter didnt shout death to all Muslims ...
I ruled out Cuthtemdown , cause the shooter didnt shout out hey spider lets see your big Republican be good stick stop this .........
Ruled out DBruleU when I heard the shooter didnt piss all over himself
That left texan Bob ........ Still not sure it wasnt him
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-30-2008, 08:58 AM
"All liberals should be killed"
O'Reilly, Savage, Hannity on shooter's reading list
(http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/28/church-shooting-police-find-manifesto-suspects-car/)Link (http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/28/church-shooting-police-find-manifesto-suspects-car/)
Police found right-wing political books and weapons in the home of the handjob who shot up a church to kill liberals "who are ruining the country," court records show.
Inside the house, officers found "Liberalism is a Mental Health Disorder" by Michael Savage, "Let Freedom Ring" by Hannity, and "The O'Reilly Factor," by Bill O'Reilly.
The shotgun-wielding suspect in Sunday's mass shooting was motivated by a hatred of "the liberal movement," and he planned to shoot until police shot him.
Savage, Hannity and O'Reilly aren't serious about the sh*t they spew.
It's just a mega-paycheck for them, but the extra-stupid Republicans don't know that.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-30-2008, 09:02 AM
Church Shooter is a GOP handjob
http://www.bartcop.com/jim_adkisson_handjobs-for-bush.jpg
Jim Adkisson of 'Handjobs for Bush'
Link (http://edition.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/28/church.shooting/?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail)
The suspect in a fatal shooting at a Knoxville church Sunday was motivated by hatred for liberals. Authorities recovered a four-page letter in which the suspect, Jim Adkisson, described his feelings and motives, police said.
Adkisson, 58, of Powell, Tennessee, has been charged with one count
of first-degree murder in the shootings at Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church.
Authorities discovered a letter from the state government telling Adkisson he was having his food stamps reduced or eliminated, police said.
Hey, Dumbass: you should blame the republicans for cutting your food stamps.
Liberals tried to help you when you lost your job - Bush and Co are the ones who said "screw that old man - I got mine, he can get his own too."
cutthemdown
07-30-2008, 10:05 AM
Heard about this on the radio today ..My first thought was ..... either texan Bob , W*GS , DBruleU, Cah or Cutthemdown was having a bad day ....... I ruled out W*GS when I heard the shooter didnt give a weather forecast after he was done .........
Cah ....... i was able to rule him out cause the shooter didnt shout death to all Muslims ...
I ruled out Cuthtemdown , cause the shooter didnt shout out hey spider lets see your big Republican be good stick stop this .........
Ruled out DBruleU when I heard the shooter didnt piss all over himself
That left texan Bob ........ Still not sure it wasnt him
Hilarious!
Too bad you weren't there to give him a flying, spinning, reverse punch to the neck. Besides I like to use a bow it's more of a challenge when the liberals scatter.
cutthemdown
07-30-2008, 10:07 AM
Funny though a right wing nut job on food stamps. Go figure. The bad news is this dude was the front runner to be McCains running mate.
Spider
07-30-2008, 10:12 AM
Hilarious!
Too bad you weren't there to give him a flying, spinning, reverse punch to the neck. Besides I like to use a bow it's more of a challenge when the liberals scatter.
LOL , remind me some time to tell you my Duck hunting story .......
Rohirrim
07-30-2008, 10:36 AM
He looks like that guy who does those sports commentaries on ESPN. I can't think of his name.
How many innocent people died in the 60s and 70s courtesy bomb-throwing left-wing radicals?
Rigs11
07-30-2008, 09:00 PM
How many innocent people died in the 60s and 70s courtesy bomb-throwing left-wing radicals?
ahh wigs always hankering back to the past to avoid addressing the present.Is that how you sleep at night?
Rank&File
07-30-2008, 09:44 PM
Some people in the south are just plain stupid. Hell, anyone who spends their time salivating over every word that comes out those idiots mouths (including olbermann) is deranged. They are all full of crap, and do way more harm than good.
Rohirrim
07-30-2008, 10:15 PM
How many innocent people died in the 60s and 70s courtesy bomb-throwing left-wing radicals?
Hilarious! Man, you're reaching caricature status.
Some of those left-wing radicals are still around, you know.
If Rush Limbaugh et.al. are partly to blame for this dork's murders, then whom do we blame for the murders those lefties committed?
This whole thread is beneath you, Ro.
Pseudofool
07-31-2008, 03:12 AM
How many innocent people died in the 60s and 70s courtesy bomb-throwing left-wing radicals?
Wow, Wiggy sticking it to the liberals. You go boy, clearly you value civil liberties over the GOP-like Free Market. You are like the Fox News of posters. "I swear I'm not a neo-con, I'm balanced, and fair, I'm a libertarian, I dislike Bush too..." Seriously, when are you EVER going to use your enthusiasm and intelligence to attack anything rightwing?
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-31-2008, 03:45 AM
Wow, Wiggy sticking it to the liberals. You go boy, clearly you value civil liberties over the GOP-like Free Market. You are like the Fox News of posters. "I swear I'm not a neo-con, I'm balanced, and fair, I'm a libertarian, I dislike Bush too..." Seriously, when are you EVER going to use your enthusiasm and intelligence to attack anything rightwing?
:yep:
If I had a nickel for every OM member who has reached these same conclusions about W*GS I'd be eligible for a Bush tax cut. :D
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-31-2008, 03:50 AM
ahh wigs always hankering back to the past to avoid addressing the present.Is that how you sleep at night?
W*GS is the radical right's designated "move along - nothing to see here" man.
Can you see W*GS as a criminal defense attorney?
"Your honor, I submit that my client should be acquitted of all charges against him on the grounds that someone else committed a similar crime 40 years ago."
:D
Brilliant. Just like Clinton blaming talk radio for Oklahoma City. Way to demonize the opposition, Roh. So, can I blame<b> al-Bama </b>the next time a Muslim blows up a market?
Just a heads up TB when you use the phrase "al Bama" you loose all credibility IMO. I do not have anyone on ignore but that's where you will go if I see that reference again. The country does not need shiit like that right now.
t's Official: Bush White House Fed Fox News Talking Points (http://www.disinfo.com/content/story.php?title=Its-Official-Bush-White-House-Fed-Fox-News-Talking-Points)
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Posted by ralph 2 days ago View profile
Countdown with Keith Olbermann reports:
It is one of those things you kind of assume to be true all along ... and yet are shocked when hard confirmation actually comes. Our fourth story tonight, from the former White House press secretary himself, word that the Bush White House routinely sent — and as far as we know, still sends — literal talking points to Fox News for its primetime propagandists, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity and others ... to spout, as if ventriloquist dummies, as if they had thought of it themselves, as if they had come to those opinions independently, as if there had been a process either fair ... or balanced.
As long as the people are fed dumb down food and propaganda TV there is not much hope. Watch the film "V" to get a fairly good depiction of todays sheepeople
Bronco_Beerslug
07-31-2008, 06:54 AM
Brilliant. Just like Clinton blaming talk radio for Oklahoma City. Way to demonize the opposition, Roh. So, can I blame al-Bama the next time a Muslim blows up a market?This exactly the mindset for a huge percentage of white Southern Republicans like Bob. Bigotry and racism still runs deep down there.
Rohirrim
07-31-2008, 07:58 AM
Some of those left-wing radicals are still around, you know.
If Rush Limbaugh et.al. are partly to blame for this dork's murders, then whom do we blame for the murders those lefties committed?
This whole thread is beneath you, Ro.
I think this thread rightfully points out that there can be a serious outcome to the poison being peddled by the Right. As long as they are going to inject it into the body politic they should have the guts to stand up and take credit for its effects.
Wow, Wiggy sticking it to the liberals. You go boy, clearly you value civil liberties over the GOP-like Free Market. You are like the Fox News of posters. "I swear I'm not a neo-con, I'm balanced, and fair, I'm a libertarian, I dislike Bush too..." Seriously, when are you EVER going to use your enthusiasm and intelligence to attack anything rightwing?
Why do you left-wingers need me to lay into the one or two legitimate right-wingers here? Can't you do it yourselves?
The preponderance of folks here are left-wingers, either mildly left or rabidly left; they also often post completely asinine and ridiculous comments. Seeing as how very few of their fellow left-wingers will challenge them, and the genuine right-wingers are rare 'round here, that their volume and content of posts attracts a lot of commentary on my part is just a reflection of the ideological imbalance here.
Pseudofool
07-31-2008, 08:08 AM
Why do you left-wingers need me to lay into the one or two legitimate right-wingers here? Can't you do it yourselves?
The preponderance of folks here are left-wingers, either mildly left or rabidly left; they also often post completely asinine and ridiculous comments. Seeing as how very few of their fellow left-wingers will challenge them, and the genuine right-wingers are rare 'round here, that their volume and content of posts attracts a lot of commentary on my part is just a reflection of the ideological imbalance here.We're a football board in Colorado, and we're suddenly liberal. Now I've heard it all. Seriously, it'd just be cool if we could see where you actually stand against some right-wing issues--esp. going toe to toe with another nutty poster. It's not about handling it; it's about being fair and balanced, as the good book, er, news station says...
I think this thread rightfully points out that there can be a serious outcome to the poison being peddled by the Right. As long as they are going to inject it into the body politic they should have the guts to stand up and take credit for its effects.
What about the poison being peddled by the Left? Or is the Left above such things and is all about peace, tolerance, love, and understanding?
If you believe that, you'll believe gaffney.
We're a football board in Colorado, and we're suddenly liberal. Now I've heard it all. Seriously, it'd just be cool if we could see where you actually stand against some right-wing issues--esp. going toe to toe with another nutty poster. It's not about handling it; it's about being fair and balanced, as the good book, er, news station says...
Go ahead. Find some right-wing issues and I'll show you where your claims I'm a neocon are BS.
Pseudofool
07-31-2008, 08:11 AM
Go ahead. Find some right-wing issues and I'll show you where your claims I'm a neocon are BS. Seriously, you just love putting liberal posters on the defensive; there's plenty of rightwingnut issues posted here almost daily, show a pair and weigh in.
Pseudofool
07-31-2008, 08:12 AM
What about the poison being peddled by the Left? Or is the Left above such things and is all about peace, tolerance, love, and understanding?
If you believe that, you'll believe gaffney.I need specific examples. The knock against the left is that they are naive, not poisonousness.
Rohirrim
07-31-2008, 08:47 AM
What about the poison being peddled by the Left? Or is the Left above such things and is all about peace, tolerance, love, and understanding?
If you believe that, you'll believe gaffney.
Why don't you stop hijacking threads with your deflections and start your own? If you want to point out how the Left spreads vehement hate messages against the Right the way Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, Coulter, Maltin, Faux Noise etc. etc. etc. and the Right Wing media machine does (not to mention the Bush cabal) on a daily basis, you are certainly free to do so.
I think it's entirely predictable that some weak minded people, like this shooter, can fill their ears with the hate mongering of Limbaugh and Hannity (et al) day after day after day and come to the conclusion that all that is wrong with America is the fault of "liberals."
alkemical
07-31-2008, 08:52 AM
Why don't you stop hijacking threads with your deflections and start your own? If you want to point out how the Left spreads vehement hate messages against the Right the way Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, Coulter, Maltin, Faux Noise etc. etc. etc. and the Right Wing media machine does (not to mention the Bush cabal) on a daily basis, you are certainly free to do so.
I think it's entirely predictable that some weak minded people, like this shooter, can fill their ears with the hate mongering of Limbaugh and Hannity (et al) day after day after day and come to the conclusion that all that is wrong with America is the fault of "liberals."
You and i agree very much on this type of thing...maybe in different ways or manners....
Seriously, you just love putting liberal posters on the defensive; there's plenty of rightwingnut issues posted here almost daily, show a pair and weigh in.
My choices on what to comment upon aren't dictated by anyone besides me, nor am I here to impress left-wingers (quit calling yourselves liberals, dammit!). If you can't defend your ideology, that ain't my problem.
I need specific examples. The knock against the left is that they are naive, not poisonousness.
Check out Daily Kos. Or Democratic Underground. Or our very own LABF.
Just because the target of their bile are things with which you disagree, doesn't make their crap any less bilious.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-31-2008, 06:00 PM
We're a football board in Colorado, and we're suddenly liberal. Now I've heard it all. Seriously, it'd just be cool if we could see where you actually stand against some right-wing issues--esp. going toe to toe with another nutty poster. It's not about handling it; it's about being fair and balanced, as the good book, er, news station says...
Ding ding ding! :yep:
W*GS never deviates from the script:
If a right-winger commits a crime, then we have no right to hold him accountable as long as W*GS can point to some other crime (comparable or not) committed by some liberal in the past.
W*GS is the poster boy for arrested moral development.
If a right-winger commits a crime, then we have no right to hold him accountable as long as W*GS can point to some other crime (comparable or not) committed by some liberal in the past.
Wrong.
You don't hold left-wingers (you are no liberal) accountable; that you smash right-wingers while ignoring left-wingers just speaks to your partisanship and hypocrisy.
Yes, I know you're a hyperpartisan and aren't fair, equitable, or consistent. In that regard, you're no better than Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, et.al. So, when you criticize the right-wing, you're being a hypocrite, nothing more.
We're a football board in Colorado, and we're suddenly liberal. Now I've heard it all.
Take either the results of the politicalcompass.org quiz, posted here, or the more-recent matrix quiz.
Plot them.
Then come back to me and say that left-wingers are a minority here.
Pseudofool
07-31-2008, 11:13 PM
Take either the results of the politicalcompass.org quiz, posted here, or the more-recent matrix quiz.
Plot them.
Then come back to me and say that left-wingers are a minority here. Are you sure all the posters participated in said poll? I doubt it.
Pseudofool
07-31-2008, 11:15 PM
Wrong.
You don't hold left-wingers (you are no liberal) accountable; that you smash right-wingers while ignoring left-wingers just speaks to your partisanship and hypocrisy.
Yes, I know you're a hyperpartisan and aren't fair, equitable, or consistent. In that regard, you're no better than Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, et.al. So, when you criticize the right-wing, you're being a hypocrite, nothing more. You don't believe there's a huge discrepancy in the corruption committed by conservatives as opposed to liberals? I mean it's freaking huge; that should suggest something about liberal values, rather than simple partisanship.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-31-2008, 11:27 PM
You don't believe there's a huge discrepancy in the corruption committed by conservatives as opposed to liberals? I mean it's freaking huge; that should suggest something about liberal values, rather than simple partisanship.
Ding ding ding! :yep:
In spite of this clear and marked discrepancy, W*GS ignores GOP corruption for the most part and focuses on liberals.
And then he wonders why so many people "mistake" him for a republican or a right-winger.
:D
cutthemdown
07-31-2008, 11:46 PM
Take either the results of the politicalcompass.org quiz, posted here, or the more-recent matrix quiz.
Plot them.
Then come back to me and say that left-wingers are a minority here.
maybe many conservatives just don't go into the WPR forum. It's possible liberals enjoy debating and complaining more. Conservatives may not see the need to argue and are more reserved when it comes to calling others at.
I'm not saying that's why you perceive the board liberal only throwing out a theory.
Are you sure all the posters participated in said poll? I doubt it.
IIRC, over 30 provided their numbers. I've got them. I'll provide a plot in the next day or two, to prove my point.
You don't believe there's a huge discrepancy in the corruption committed by conservatives as opposed to liberals? I mean it's freaking huge; that should suggest something about liberal values, rather than simple partisanship.
In the realm of politics, there are no good guys. Left-wingers are hardly above corruption, bribes, etc. - the games politicians play.
Do you believe that they are?
In spite of this clear and marked discrepancy, W*GS ignores GOP corruption for the most part and focuses on liberals.
Another lie.
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2021228&postcount=16
Pseudofool
08-01-2008, 01:03 AM
IIRC, over 30 provided their numbers. I've got them. I'll provide a plot in the next day or two, to prove my point.Wow, thirty. Clearly that's a good indication of how Orange Mane feels.
cutthemdown
08-01-2008, 01:04 AM
IIRC, over 30 provided their numbers. I've got them. I'll provide a plot in the next day or two, to prove my point.
like I said 30 is a small % of the overall board.
Pseudofool
08-01-2008, 01:08 AM
In the realm of politics, there are no good guys. Left-wingers are hardly above corruption, bribes, etc. - the games politicians play.
Do you believe that they are?Of course not. But how do explain away the huge discrepancy? Don't be evasive and change the subject. Answer the question: how can you explain the reason that far more Republicans get in trouble for corruption than Democrats? I can attribute it to values. And your not willing to acknowledge that all they are all politicians, they do have different values and play to different interest groups. For instance, it would be silly to assume that impoverished or marginalized peoples can bribe (or gift) in the same way corporations and their cronies can...
Wow, thirty. Clearly that's a good indication of how Orange Mane feels.
There are only a handful of posters that dominate the WRP forum; that 30+ has almost all of them. Nowhere did I say that those who answered the matrix quiz were representative of the OM as a whole.
Of course not. But how do explain away the huge discrepancy? Don't be evasive and change the subject. Answer the question: how can you explain the reason that far more Republicans get in trouble for corruption than Democrats?
Show me the numbers to back up the "far more" assertion. Provide the data.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-01-2008, 09:04 AM
:laugh:
If W*GS needs to be "shown" then he must be suffering from selective amnesia where the past eight years are concerned.
If W*GS needs to be "shown" then he must be suffering from selective amnesia where the past eight years are concerned.
I'd prefer the hard numbers, rather than your non-credible assertions.
I live in reality; you live in a faith-based delusion.
Pseudofool
08-01-2008, 02:57 PM
I'd prefer the hard numbers, rather than your non-credible assertions.
I live in reality; you live in a faith-based delusion.Philosophy 101, no one lives in reality, we all live in our heads--i.e. reality is mediated for everyone b our ideology or faith. Your claim of living in reality makes you an arrogant clown.
Philosophy 101, no one lives in reality, we all live in our heads--i.e. reality is mediated for everyone b our ideology or faith. <B>Your claim of living in reality makes you an arrogant clown.</b>
That is one reality we can all agree on
Philosophy 101, no one lives in reality, we all live in our heads--i.e. reality is mediated for everyone b our ideology or faith. Your claim of living in reality makes you an arrogant clown.
If we "all live in our heads", and you truly believe that walking off a cliff will cause you no harm, then please feel free to test your perceptions by finding a cliff and walking off of it.
Provide a video to YouTube so we can watch you perform this feat.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-01-2008, 05:18 PM
</b>
That is one reality we can all agree on
Indeed. :yep:
alkemical
08-03-2008, 10:02 AM
If we "all live in our heads", and you truly believe that walking off a cliff will cause you no harm, then please feel free to test your perceptions by finding a cliff and walking off of it.
Provide a video to YouTube so we can watch you perform this feat.
I'd rather push you off to be honest... But that's besides the point. Until you understand how you've been brainwashed - you will never understand that your reality - is just a reflection of what you've been told to believe in. But since you don't understand it, but not out any reason of not being capable of it: Instead it's because it doesn't make you "right" anymore - and that's what bothers you.
You tried this schtick with me before, and you're wrong then and you're wrong now with someone else.
I'd rather push you off to be honest... But that's besides the point.
If you aren't willing to put the reality inside your head to the ultimate test, you're just pretending.
Until you understand how you've been brainwashed - you will never understand that your reality - is just a reflection of what you've been told to believe in. But since you don't understand it, but not out any reason of not being capable of it: Instead it's because it doesn't make you "right" anymore - and that's what bothers you.
Since you've achieved Enlightenment, and don't believe in cliffs, then find one and walk off it. As I said, if your reality cannot comprehend cliffs ("real" and rhetorical), then the wrong is yours, not mine.
You tried this schtick with me before, and you're wrong then and you're wrong now with someone else.
I'm not much impressed by solipsists.
orangeatheist
08-03-2008, 02:29 PM
If you aren't willing to put the reality inside your head to the ultimate test, you're just pretending...I'm not much impressed by solipsists.
I'm with you, W*GS. I notice quite clearly that he avoided directly answering your question.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-03-2008, 06:10 PM
I'm with you, W*GS.
Now there's a shocker.
http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/kool_aid_man_waving.jpg
Another high-quality post from LABF...
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-03-2008, 06:25 PM
Oh well - at least W*GS didn't try to change the subject to Clinton or Ted Kennedy.
That's progress, I guess. :D
Have you heard about Clinton's use of extraordinary rendition?
alkemical
08-04-2008, 07:55 AM
If you aren't willing to put the reality inside your head to the ultimate test, you're just pretending.
Since you've achieved Enlightenment, and don't believe in cliffs, then find one and walk off it. As I said, if your reality cannot comprehend cliffs ("real" and rhetorical), then the wrong is yours, not mine.
I'm not much impressed by solipsists.
Considering that you are only worried about losing what you worked so very hard for... I think maybe it's YOU who should walk off the cliff. I already have, remember. I've actually PUT my money where my mouth is. Your cliff analogy shows what exactly what you don't get about it.
Considering that you are only worried about losing what you worked so very hard for... I think maybe it's YOU who should walk off the cliff. I already have, remember. I've actually PUT my money where my mouth is. Your cliff analogy shows what exactly what you don't get about it.
Whatever, Josh/amesj/clav. Keep living inside your head. For most, that's a safe place - for you, I'm not so sure.
alkemical
08-04-2008, 09:58 AM
Whatever, Josh/amesj/clav. Keep living inside your head. For most, that's a safe place - for you, I'm not so sure.
We all live in side our heads - that's the point you keep missing Gary.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-04-2008, 05:45 PM
We all live in side our heads - that's the point you keep missing Gary.
:yep:
Especially ironic when you consider W*GS' ideology is all head stuff, i.e., has never been tetsed in the real world. Ha!
cutthemdown
08-04-2008, 05:54 PM
It's obvious the right is on the attack and that there target is paint Obama as a flash in the pan, no substance, empty suit.
It also looks like it will be Wesley Clarks jobs to attack McCain's military record to pain him as a bumbling crappy pilot with a so so military career.
Eventually they have to debate it will be interesting to see that.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-05-2008, 12:17 AM
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alkemical
08-05-2008, 02:51 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/01/mccain-suggests-military-style-invasion-modeled-on-the-surge-to-control-inner-city-crime/
McCain suggests military-style invasion modeled on the surge to control inner city crime.»
Today, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) spoke to the National Urban League, a group “devoted to empowering African Americans to enter the economic and social mainstream.” When an audience member asked him how he planned to reduce urban crime, McCain praised Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s efforts in New York Cirty before invoking the military’s tactics in Iraq as the model for crime-fighting:
MCCAIN: And some of those tactics — you mention the war in Iraq — are like that we use in the military. You go into neighborhoods, you clamp down, you provide a secure environment for the people that live there, and you make sure that the known criminals are kept under control. And you provide them with a stable environment and then they cooperate with law enforcement, etc, etc.