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That One Guy
07-26-2008, 02:11 PM
I know folks want to say we basically bring terrorism on ourselves but what the hell did India do to bring this upon themselves? This stuff is getting out of control.
I know folks want to say we basically bring terrorism on ourselves but what the hell did India do to bring this upon themselves? This stuff is getting out of control.
You'll have all the extreme liberal lefties who have that..........
"Don't bother other countries and they won't bother us" mentality up in arms.
McGaffney,
don't blame the Hebrews! :~ohyah!: It WASN'T ISRAEL!
That One Guy
07-26-2008, 03:02 PM
That's what I'm wondering. I haven't heard of India doing any "anti-Muslim" activities but if they don't have anything at all to spin here, the situation is even worse than I thought.
Bronco_Beerslug
07-26-2008, 03:18 PM
I know folks want to say we basically bring terrorism on ourselves but what the hell did India do to bring this upon themselves? This stuff is getting out of control.Usually people post a link to the topic so they can see what you might be referring to.
Spider
07-26-2008, 03:30 PM
I know folks want to say we basically bring terrorism on ourselves but what the hell did India do to bring this upon themselves? This stuff is getting out of control.
Depends , India has been fighting with Pakistan long before you got hair on your balls
BABronco
07-26-2008, 03:31 PM
most terrorist attacks in India are by Hindus.
Spider
07-26-2008, 03:32 PM
You'll have all the extreme liberal lefties who have that..........
"Don't bother other countries and they won't bother us" mentality up in arms.
McGaffney,
don't blame the Hebrews! :~ohyah!: It WASN'T ISRAEL!
then we have the pedophile gay **** sticks on the right that think hey Bombing in India , lets invade Africa ............
That One Guy
07-26-2008, 03:35 PM
Usually people post a link to the topic so they can see what you might be referring to.
Alright, well, here's a Yahoo link. I just assumed everyone'd heard about it.
AHMEDABAD, India (Reuters) - At least 16 small bombs exploded in the Indian city of Ahmedabad on Saturday, killing at least 29 people and wounding 88, a day after another set of blasts in the country's IT hub, officials said.
On Friday, eight bombs exploded in quick succession in the southern information technology city of Bangalore, killing at least one person and wounding six others.
Saturday's blasts were in Ahmedabad's crowded old city dominated by its Muslim community. One was in a metal tiffin box, used to carry food, another apparently left on a bicycle.
"The blasts occurred in 90 minutes, one in a hospital, others in the old city of Ahmedabad," Narendra Modi, the state's Hindu-nationalist chief minister told reporters.
There were two separate series of bombings, the first near busy market places. A second quick succession of bombs went off 20 to 25 minutes later around a hospital, where at least six people died, police said.
Several TV channels said they had received an email from a group called the "Indian Mujahideen" at the time of the blasts. The same group claimed responsibility for eight bombs that killed 63 people in the western city of Jaipur in May.
One television channel showed a bus with its side blown up, shattered windows and the roof half-destroyed. Another showed a dead dog lying beside a blown-up bicycle.
"The bus had just started when the blast happened," P. K Pathak, a retired insurance official who was traveling in nearby bus, told Reuters.
"Many people standing on the exit door fell down. There was fire and smoke all over. We got down from our bus and rushed to help them."
Ahmedabad is the main city in the communally sensitive and relatively wealthy western state of Gujarat, scene of deadly riots in 2002 in which 2,500 people are thought to have died, most of them Muslims killed by rampaging Hindu mobs.
ISLAMIST MILITANTS
Both states targeted in the bomb attacks are ruled by the Hindu-nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party and are among the country's fastest-growing.
Suspicion is falling on Islamist militants intent on destabilizing India by fanning tensions between Hindus and Muslims, and police were deployed in Ahmedabad on Saturday to maintain calm.
India has suffered a wave of bombings in recent years, with targets ranging from mosques and Hindu temples to trains.
It is unusual for any group to claim responsibility, but India says it suspects militant groups from Pakistan and Bangladesh are behind many of the attacks.
"The government had received a threat e-mail and we are probing into it," local state government Home Minister Amit Shah told Reuters.
So far, police say they have few leads into Friday's Bangalore bombings.
On Saturday, another unexploded bomb was found near a shopping mall in Bangalore, but it was unclear whether the bomb was newly planted or meant to have exploded during Friday's attacks, police said.
India's home ministry said on Friday it suspected "a small militant group" was behind the Bangalore attacks, while some police officials suspected the blasts could be the work of the banned Students Islamic Movement of India.
Some IT companies in Bangalore, known as India's Silicon Valley, were increasing security after bombs went off there. Each bomb had a similar explosive force to one or two grenades.
The city is a prominent software development centre and is also home to a major outsourcing industry.
Also nicknamed the "world's back office," Bangalore has more than 1,500 top firms, including Infosys, Wipro and the offices of global firms such as Microsoft Corp and Intel Corp.
"If such incidents continue, investors will fly away from the city," said state opposition politician Mallikharjuna Kharge.
(Writing by Simon Denyer; Editing by Alistair Scrutton)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080726/wl_nm/india_blasts_dc
That One Guy
07-26-2008, 03:37 PM
Depends , India has been fighting with Pakistan long before you got hair on your balls
Sure, but why the recent bombings?
Spider
07-26-2008, 03:49 PM
Sure, but why the recent bombings?
why not ?
That One Guy
07-26-2008, 03:53 PM
why not ?
And thus the fundamental reason why everyone's "just be nice and they'll go away" anti-terrorism campaign would be a complete failure. :thumbsup:
Spider
07-26-2008, 03:58 PM
And thus the fundamental reason why everyone's "just be nice and they'll go away" anti-terrorism campaign would be a complete failure. :thumbsup:
I dont think anyone has said be nice and they will go away , in fact just the opposite dont go into Iraq , lets nail bin ladens ass to the wall
That One Guy
07-26-2008, 04:05 PM
I dont think anyone has said be nice and they will go away , in fact just the opposite dont go into Iraq , lets nail bin ladens ass to the wall
Bin Laden is not terrorism, he just happens to lead a group. Once he's gone, someone new will be there.
Spider
07-26-2008, 04:07 PM
Bin Laden is not terrorism, he just happens to lead a group. Once he's gone, someone new will be there.
LOL . let me guess you got that off of a fortune cookie ..... I know you are not suggesting , we ignore Bin Ladin , that would be just stupid .......
No Once bin Ladin is caught Al qadea loses **** load of money ........ Organizing skills , structure etc .......
Bronco_Beerslug
07-26-2008, 04:47 PM
Sure, but why the recent bombings?They are ongoing, have been for years and years.
Terrorism in India can be attributed to India's many low intensity conflicts within its borders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_India). If terrorism can be defined as "peacetime equivalent of war crime", then these sites of low intensity conflicts are prime spots for terrorism in India. The regions with long term terrorist activities today are Jammu and Kashmir, Central India (Naxalism) and Seven Sister States (independence and autonomy movements). In the past, the Punjab insurgency led to militant activities in the Indian state of Punjab as well as the national capital Delhi (Delhi serial blasts, anti-Sikh riots). As of 2006, at least 231 of the country’s 608 districts were afflicted, at differing intensities, by various insurgent and terrorist movements.
elsid13
07-26-2008, 05:34 PM
India terrorism is result of two things - the conflict with Muslims in the region bordering the Pakistan border and Marxist Revolutionary groups.
cutthemdown
07-26-2008, 05:45 PM
Sure, but why the recent bombings?
There is a valley, heavily armed, disputed border, and tension that exists everyday. Other then maybe N Korea S Korea its the most heavily armed area in the world.
Like Spider said long running feud between countries that share a border, but not a religion. What did they do to deserve it? Like Clint said deserving ain't got nothing to do with it.
elsid13
07-26-2008, 05:57 PM
There is a valley, heavily armed, disputed border, and tension that exists everyday. Other then maybe N Korea S Korea its the most heavily armed area in the world.
Like Spider said long running feud between countries that share a border, but not a religion. What did they do to deserve it? Like Clint said deserving ain't got nothing to do with it.
There is a religious problem that underlies this problem.
Dudeskey
07-26-2008, 07:04 PM
That's what I'm wondering. I haven't heard of India doing any "anti-Muslim" activities but if they don't have anything at all to spin here, the situation is even worse than I thought.
Aren't most Indians Hindu? Hell this could be the Pakistanis ****ing with them
TexanBob
07-26-2008, 07:15 PM
Keep in mind that the India-Pakistan-Bangladesh situation goes all the way up to presidential assassinations. It's a very unstable part of the world which is why all our jobs are being outsourced there. < /sarcasm>
That One Guy
07-26-2008, 07:27 PM
Aren't most Indians Hindu? Hell this could be the Pakistanis ****ing with them
I admittedly don't know much about India except that they're Hindu so I was wondering myself if it was just an opportunity for someone to mess with the outsiders in the area.
I really didn't know these attacks were common and had been going on for a while. Are these bombings an escalation of the situation or just the same ol' stuff? I knew there were border tensions with Pakistan but I was thinking it was simply a matter of disputed land or something along those lines; guess I don't know much about their history really.
That One Guy
07-26-2008, 07:33 PM
LOL . let me guess you got that off of a fortune cookie ..... I know you are not suggesting , we ignore Bin Ladin , that would be just stupid .......
No Once bin Ladin is caught Al qadea loses **** load of money ........ Organizing skills , structure etc .......
I guess I can see how you'd belief crap like that considering you'd want to blame Bush if the White House lawn isn't cut weekly. Bin Laden, much like Bush, is the face and overall leader but isn't going to do much in the actual day to day procedures. Bin Laden is publicity and a uniting force for Muslims but he can and will be that when captured or dead as well. Right now he's a Muslim jihad leader, captured or dead he will be a martyr to rally behind. Make no mistake, we're chasing Bin Laden to punish him for his deeds, not to end terrorism.
So what I guess I was getting at with that was that terrorism cannot be defeated, you can merely try to protect yourself against it and absorb the blows.
Dudeskey
07-26-2008, 07:40 PM
I admittedly don't know much about India except that they're Hindu so I was wondering myself if it was just an opportunity for someone to mess with the outsiders in the area.
I really didn't know these attacks were common and had been going on for a while. Are these bombings an escalation of the situation or just the same ol' stuff? I knew there were border tensions with Pakistan but I was thinking it was simply a matter of disputed land or something along those lines; guess I don't know much about their history really.
CIA factbook says:
Hindu 80.5%, Muslim 13.4%, Christian 2.3%, Sikh 1.9%, other 1.8%, unspecified 0.1% (2001 census)
Political Pressure Groups:
All Parties Hurriyat Conference in the Kashmir Valley (separatist group); Bajrang Dal (religious organization); National Socialist Council of Nagaland in the northeast (separatist group); Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (religious organization); Vishwa Hindu Parishad (religious organization
other: numerous religious or militant/chauvinistic organizations; various separatist groups seeking greater communal and/or regional autonomy
International Disputes:
since China and India launched a security and foreign policy dialogue in 2005, consolidated discussions related to the dispute over most of their rugged, militarized boundary, regional nuclear proliferation, Indian claims that China transferred missiles to Pakistan, and other matters continue; various talks and confidence-building measures have cautiously begun to defuse tensions over Kashmir, particularly since the October 2005 earthquake in the region; Kashmir nevertheless remains the site of the world's largest and most militarized territorial dispute with portions under the de facto administration of China (Aksai Chin), India (Jammu and Kashmir), and Pakistan (Azad Kashmir and Northern Areas); India and Pakistan have maintained the 2004 cease fire in Kashmir and initiated discussions on defusing the armed stand-off in the Siachen glacier region; Pakistan protests India's fencing the highly militarized Line of Control and construction of the Baglihar Dam on the Chenab River in Jammu and Kashmir, which is part of the larger dispute on water sharing of the Indus River and its tributaries; UN Military Observer Group in India and Pakistan (UNMOGIP) has maintained a small group of peacekeepers since 1949; India does not recognize Pakistan's ceding historic Kashmir lands to China in 1964; to defuse tensions and prepare for discussions on a maritime boundary, India and Pakistan seek technical resolution of the disputed boundary in Sir Creek estuary at the mouth of the Rann of Kutch in the Arabian Sea; Pakistani maps continue to show its Junagadh claim in Indian Gujarat State; discussions with Bangladesh remain stalled to delimit a small section of river boundary, to exchange territory for 51 Bangladeshi exclaves in India and 111 Indian exclaves in Bangladesh, to allocate divided villages, and to stop illegal cross-border trade, migration, violence, and transit of terrorists through the porous border; Bangladesh protests India's attempts to fence off high-traffic sections of the border; dispute with Bangladesh over New Moore/South Talpatty/Purbasha Island in the Bay of Bengal deters maritime boundary delimitation; India seeks cooperation from Bhutan and Burma to keep Indian Nagaland and Assam separatists from hiding in remote areas along the borders; Joint Border Committee with Nepal continues to examine contested boundary sections, including the 400 square kilometer dispute over the source of the Kalapani River; India maintains a strict border regime to keep out Maoist insurgents and control illegal cross-border activities from Nepal
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/in.html
Spider
07-26-2008, 07:44 PM
I guess I can see how you'd belief crap like that considering you'd want to blame Bush if the White House lawn isn't cut weekly. Bin Laden, much like Bush, is the face and overall leader but isn't going to do much in the actual day to day procedures. Bin Laden is publicity and a uniting force for Muslims but he can and will be that when captured or dead as well. Right now he's a Muslim jihad leader, captured or dead he will be a martyr to rally behind. Make no mistake, we're chasing Bin Laden to punish him for his deeds, not to end terrorism.
So what I guess I was getting at with that was that terrorism cannot be defeated, you can merely try to protect yourself against it and absorb the blows.
This is just plain stupid ........ you really screwed the pooch on this one .... I have seen you post some really retarded **** , I figured it was just to make an argument ,but this post has me rethinking ....... maybe you are handicapped ...before you launch into a tirade about personal attacks , there is no other way to answer this post of youres
Earendil
07-26-2008, 07:52 PM
That's what I'm wondering. I haven't heard of India doing any "anti-Muslim" activities but if they don't have anything at all to spin here, the situation is even worse than I thought.
See, this is why it's important to learn history. India hasn't done anything explicitly anti-Muslim, but regardless of who started it the only reason Pakistan exists is because the large (but still minority) Muslim population of post-war India didn't want to associate with the rest. And even after Pakistan was created, after a relocation that makes the Palestinians departure look minuscule, Pakistan and India have been fighting verbally and sometimes physically ever since. That's why Bangladesh exists, why the fight over Kashmir has raged for decades, why India got the bomb from the Brits and why our deal allies in Red China gave it to Pakistan (as well a North Korea) despite the fact Mushareff is the only thing standing between Al Qaeda and complete control of Pakistan.
Short form of the above: Violent Muslim extremists bomb India for the same reason Sir Edmund Hillary climbed Mt. Everest.
