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DomCasual
07-25-2008, 06:12 PM
I don't know if this is posted under a thread with a different title - if it is, sue me.

I'm starting to wonder if Brandon Marshall is hopeless.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_9998546

Cutler looks good; Marshall not so much

ENGLEWOOD, COLO. — With his diabetes and his passes both under control, quarterback Jay Cutler looked very impressive on the Denver Broncos' first workout of training camp.

His top target wasn't nearly so sharp.

Brandon Marshall, whose offseason was besmirched by a serious arm injury, another run-in with the law and a summons to the commissioner's office, was gassed throughout the Friday morning workout, taking a knee after just about every route he ran.

When it was over, Marshall trudged off the practice fields with his right shoe in his hand, saying he couldn't stop to speak with reporters because he had to go see a doctor.

Was he OK? "Oh, yeah," Marshall said before slipping into team headquarters.

He was mostly quiet on the field, too.

"I think he's a little out of shape," Cutler said. "I mean, he needs to run a little bit. But he caught the ball well and he's physical. I'm excited to see him in a few weeks." Cutler can only hope that he'll have Marshall, a third-year star who's coming off a breakout season, full-time in 2008.

Commissioner Roger Goodell is pondering punishment for the enigmatic 24-year-old wide receiver who has been arrested three times in the last year and is due in court in September on a drunken driving charge.

The Broncos expect to hear back from the league about a possible suspension as early as next week.

"He's been through a lot this offseason," Cutler said. "To come out here and just not think about stuff and play football and do what he loves, I mean that's good." Marshall missed most of the team's offseason workouts after a freak accident that landed him in the operating room for surgery on his right arm and called into question his maturity level again.

"It's time for me to grow up," Marshall said afterward, pledging to be a better citizen and teammate.

Marshall, a fourth-round draft choice in 2006 out of Central Florida, blossomed into the Broncos' best receiver last year, catching 102 passes for 1,325 yards and seven touchdowns.

He started Friday's workout with a large bandage on his right arm but he later removed it.

"I knew he would be fine. He said his hand was fine and he caught a few one-handed on the right arm," Cutler said. "He looked good." Observers were more impressed with Cutler.

"He's controlling the diabetes," coach Mike Shanahan said.

"Obviously, he has a game plan. He's gained his weight back, the majority of his weight, and he looks good." The third-year pro lost 35 pounds and some zip on his throws last season but neither he nor the Broncos heeded warning signs, including constant fatigue and unexplained weight loss, until team medical personnel noticed a high blood sugar reading in routine tests in March and sent him to a diabetes specialist.

Now, his blood sugars are down, his weight and spirits are up and his famous fastballs are back.

He ditched his insulin pump for practice but had a new glucometer on his left arm that provided constant readings.

Occasionally, he came to the sideline for finger pricks to test his blood sugars.

"I feel good. I don't really think about it, but I have Greek (head athletic trainer Steve Antonopulos) and he has all my stuff and he checks it and makes sure I am OK. If I need a Gatorade, they get me some Gatorade. Once I hit the field, I am not really thinking about it.

"I have a monitor that monitors my blood sugar every minute.

Greek just walks by me and tells me where I am at. If I am feeling OK, then I feel OK. I do have a pump, but when it gets really hot out it gets a little sticky and I don't like messing with it." Cutler said he's confident his strength and stamina won't wane like they did in 2007.

"Last year my body just wasn't reacting," he said. "I didn't know if I was going to make it to the end of the season to tell you the truth, but this year I am at the weight I kind of want to be at and I'll maybe gain a little bit more through camp." Cutler had another reason to smile Friday: massive rookie left tackle Ryan Clady, the Boise State star who was the 12th player selected in the draft, signed a five-year deal with $11 million in guarantees just in time to start protecting Cutler's blind side from the start of training camp.

EXTRA POINTS:@ Shanahan said rookie DT Carlton Powell of Virginia Tech is out for the year with a torn Achilles' tendon that occurred during offseason conditioning. ... Free agent TE Edell Shepherd was carted off the field in tears after injuring his right knee. "He might have torn an ACL today, but I don't know," Shanahan said.

theAPAOps5
07-25-2008, 06:15 PM
Champ Bailey said he just needs to get a few real reps in camp. This is a non-issue. Worry more about his impending suspension.

DomCasual
07-25-2008, 06:25 PM
Champ Bailey said he just needs to get a few real reps in camp. This is a non-issue. Worry more about his impending suspension.

Well, he's "taking a knee after just about every route he ran."

There's no reason for the guy to be that out of shape.

It would be great if he showed up a man on a mission - embarrassed and angry at all he had been through the last six months, and ready to show the world that he's "the man".

If that's not going to happen, it would be okay if he was just able to keep up with everyone else.

Taking a knee after every route he runs is not so good - especially considered contextually with all the other stuff going on with him. Maybe it's the Post's weird bias against him rearing its head - although "taking a knee after nearly every route" doesn't seem all that subjective.

I have not uttered a single critical word about Brandon Marshall here. It would just be great to read a positive note about him - anything.

Hogan11
07-25-2008, 06:28 PM
Haters

Ha!

theAPAOps5
07-25-2008, 06:28 PM
good point but the new writer, Lindsay wrote most of those articles and is giving these updates so it doesn't surprise me. The radio guys only mentioned his drops and never taking a knee. They rip him too so I would think they would catch that too.

theAPAOps5
07-25-2008, 06:29 PM
My point is its the first day. can't get too high or too low.

Cosmo
07-25-2008, 06:29 PM
Well, he's "taking a knee after just about every route he ran."

There's no reason for the guy to be that out of shape.

It would be great if he showed up a man on a mission - embarrassed and angry at all he had been through the last six months, and ready to show the world that he's "the man".

If that's not going to happen, it would be okay if he was just able to keep up with everyone else.

Taking a knee after every route he runs is not so good - especially considered contextually with all the other stuff going on with him. Maybe it's the Post's weird bias against him rearing its head - although "taking a knee after nearly every route" doesn't seem all that subjective.

I have not uttered a single critical word about Brandon Marshall here. It would just be great to read a positive note about him - anything.

Its quite possible that the man hasn't been sleeping well the past week. I mean, he's dealing with his ex, had a meeting with the commish, has to worry about his arm, and even old players sometimes get nervous when camp starts back up. Give him a week, if he's still doing this, i'd be concerned.

DomCasual
07-25-2008, 06:32 PM
Haters

Ha!

Well, in fairness, the Denver Post has seemed to have had a strange vendetta against him this offseason. Granted, he hasn't done a lot to warrant positive press. But they were writing a few stories a day for awhile there - and some of them seemed a little punitive.

BabyTO
07-25-2008, 06:41 PM
There's no reason for the guy to be that out of shape.
are you retarded? the guy almost cut off his arm a few weeks ago and you expect him to be in tip top shape? its hard to run, lift weights and all that stuff in order to stay in perfect shape. you have obviously no clue what it takes for a prof. athlete to stay in shape. its not enough to ride the stat. bike ::)
and stop b****ing and whining already, you'd think tomorrow will be our first regular season game. this is what training camp is for. so the players can get back in shape again. he will get back in shape, just like last season when he hurt his leg in training camp.

Rock Chalk
07-25-2008, 06:44 PM
He'll have at least 4 extra weeks to get in shape.

DomCasual
07-25-2008, 06:46 PM
are you retarded? the guy almost cut off his arm a few weeks ago and you expect him to be in tip top shape? its hard to run, lift weights and all that stuff in order to stay in perfect shape. you have obviously no clue what it takes for a prof. athlete to stay in shape. its not enough to ride the stat. bike ::)
and stop b****ing and whining already, you'd think tomorrow will be our first regular season game. this is what training camp is for. so the players can get back in shape again. he will get back in shape, just like last season when he hurt his leg in training camp.

I didn't realize you did cardio stuff with your arm. ???

theAPAOps5
07-25-2008, 06:48 PM
I didn't realize you did cardio stuff with your arm. ???

Hey when the wife is out of town I do lots of cardio with my arm. :thumbs:

Broncosfreak_56
07-25-2008, 06:50 PM
Not many people thought he would even play this year, let alone practice after his arm injury. So at least he is out there. Most people are a little out of shape the start of camp. Im much more worried about his impending suspension.

telluride
07-25-2008, 06:52 PM
If you recall we were all hating on him last year during camp (over his nagging injuries), and then he shook it off and had a great season. I suspect he'll whip himself into shape pretty damn fast now.

On another topic, I'm somewhat sick and tired of "Greek." I really think the training/medical staff could use some fresh blood, so to speak.

broncofan2438
07-25-2008, 06:53 PM
Relax its the first day people. But yea Marshall needs to bust his ass and get into shape

theAPAOps5
07-25-2008, 06:56 PM
If you recall we were all hating on him last year during camp (over his nagging injuries), and then he shook it off and had a great season. I suspect he'll whip himself into shape pretty damn fast now.

On another topic, I'm somewhat sick and tired of "Greek." I really think the training/medical staff could use some fresh blood, so to speak.

That or I wonder if Rich Tuten is over training them. Injuries come with over training.

TheManeMan
07-25-2008, 06:57 PM
Of course he's outta shape, all he did was eat Mcdonald's in the offseason... :unamused:

Hogan11
07-25-2008, 07:01 PM
If you recall we were all hating on him last year during camp (over his nagging injuries), and then he shook it off and had a great season. I suspect he'll whip himself into shape pretty damn fast now.

Wasn't that after Shanahan told him he'd better get his ass in gear and get out there? I seem to remember he had to be pushed some at that time.

Los Broncos
07-25-2008, 07:02 PM
Dam, not good news at all.

watermock
07-25-2008, 07:04 PM
As long as he doesnt pull a hammy, he'll be fine.

Jason in LA
07-25-2008, 07:05 PM
This isn't a big deal. Cutler doesn't have the medical background to say whether the guy is out of shape anyways. I'm sure Marshall is right where he needs to be. Lets not get carried away.

SonOfLe-loLang
07-25-2008, 07:09 PM
Maybe Marshall has diabetes:)

Broncoman13
07-25-2008, 07:38 PM
The play that Shepperd was injured on was messed up. He made a great catch and kind of got cheap shotted near the goal line. He fumbled the ball and then went after it and he laid there grabbing his knee for a second or two. He then got up and jogged (gingerly) along the side line. A lot of people were cheering for Brian Clark as he was wearing his old #. He was upset too. Somebody asked why he was so upset... "Can't make the team if he can't compete." Simple as that.

I didn't realize Powell was injured. THAT SUCKS! We are still thin in the middle. :(

kmonty
07-25-2008, 07:44 PM
I don't know if this is posted under a thread with a different title - if it is, sue me.

I'm starting to wonder if Brandon Marshall is hopeless.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_9998546

Cutler looks good; Marshall not so much

ENGLEWOOD, COLO. — With his diabetes and his passes both under control, quarterback Jay Cutler looked very impressive on the Denver Broncos' first workout of training camp.

His top target wasn't nearly so sharp.

Brandon Marshall, whose offseason was besmirched by a serious arm injury, another run-in with the law and a summons to the commissioner's office, was gassed throughout the Friday morning workout, taking a knee after just about every route he ran.

When it was over, Marshall trudged off the practice fields with his right shoe in his hand, saying he couldn't stop to speak with reporters because he had to go see a doctor.

Was he OK? "Oh, yeah," Marshall said before slipping into team headquarters.

He was mostly quiet on the field, too.

"I think he's a little out of shape," Cutler said. "I mean, he needs to run a little bit. But he caught the ball well and he's physical. I'm excited to see him in a few weeks." Cutler can only hope that he'll have Marshall, a third-year star who's coming off a breakout season, full-time in 2008.

Commissioner Roger Goodell is pondering punishment for the enigmatic 24-year-old wide receiver who has been arrested three times in the last year and is due in court in September on a drunken driving charge.

The Broncos expect to hear back from the league about a possible suspension as early as next week.

"He's been through a lot this offseason," Cutler said. "To come out here and just not think about stuff and play football and do what he loves, I mean that's good." Marshall missed most of the team's offseason workouts after a freak accident that landed him in the operating room for surgery on his right arm and called into question his maturity level again.

"It's time for me to grow up," Marshall said afterward, pledging to be a better citizen and teammate.

Marshall, a fourth-round draft choice in 2006 out of Central Florida, blossomed into the Broncos' best receiver last year, catching 102 passes for 1,325 yards and seven touchdowns.

He started Friday's workout with a large bandage on his right arm but he later removed it.

"I knew he would be fine. He said his hand was fine and he caught a few one-handed on the right arm," Cutler said. "He looked good." Observers were more impressed with Cutler.

"He's controlling the diabetes," coach Mike Shanahan said.

"Obviously, he has a game plan. He's gained his weight back, the majority of his weight, and he looks good." The third-year pro lost 35 pounds and some zip on his throws last season but neither he nor the Broncos heeded warning signs, including constant fatigue and unexplained weight loss, until team medical personnel noticed a high blood sugar reading in routine tests in March and sent him to a diabetes specialist.

Now, his blood sugars are down, his weight and spirits are up and his famous fastballs are back.

He ditched his insulin pump for practice but had a new glucometer on his left arm that provided constant readings.

Occasionally, he came to the sideline for finger pricks to test his blood sugars.

"I feel good. I don't really think about it, but I have Greek (head athletic trainer Steve Antonopulos) and he has all my stuff and he checks it and makes sure I am OK. If I need a Gatorade, they get me some Gatorade. Once I hit the field, I am not really thinking about it.

"I have a monitor that monitors my blood sugar every minute.

Greek just walks by me and tells me where I am at. If I am feeling OK, then I feel OK. I do have a pump, but when it gets really hot out it gets a little sticky and I don't like messing with it." Cutler said he's confident his strength and stamina won't wane like they did in 2007.

"Last year my body just wasn't reacting," he said. "I didn't know if I was going to make it to the end of the season to tell you the truth, but this year I am at the weight I kind of want to be at and I'll maybe gain a little bit more through camp." Cutler had another reason to smile Friday: massive rookie left tackle Ryan Clady, the Boise State star who was the 12th player selected in the draft, signed a five-year deal with $11 million in guarantees just in time to start protecting Cutler's blind side from the start of training camp.

EXTRA POINTS:@ Shanahan said rookie DT Carlton Powell of Virginia Tech is out for the year with a torn Achilles' tendon that occurred during offseason conditioning. ... Free agent TE Edell Shepherd was carted off the field in tears after injuring his right knee. "He might have torn an ACL today, but I don't know," Shanahan said.

:oyvey: Nothing like a foot injury to go with an arm injury to go with a suspension to go with being out of shape.

Play2win
07-25-2008, 08:29 PM
If you recall we were all hating on him last year during camp (over his nagging injuries), and then he shook it off and had a great season. I suspect he'll whip himself into shape pretty damn fast now.

On another topic, I'm somewhat sick and tired of "Greek." I really think the training/medical staff could use some fresh blood, so to speak.

QFT

Popps
07-25-2008, 08:35 PM
Nothing to see here. Delete this thread. It's all a plot to get Brandon!!

orinjkrush
07-25-2008, 08:49 PM
i second that. the medical/training staff need some serious evaluations.

too many injuries in camp.

maher_tyler
07-25-2008, 09:33 PM
My point is its the first day. can't get too high or too low.

Yea i'd be more worried if it was happening at the end of camp etc. You would think he'd be in a bit better shape though. I'll be worried if it keeps happening into the preseason games.