Brandon Marshall Facing 4-8 Game Suspension --

[wolf754life]

Brandon Marshall Facing 4-8 Game Suspension --
Thu Jul 24, 2008 --from FFMastermind.com
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NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports Denver Broncos WR Brandon Marshall, who was in New York on Monday to meet with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to plead his case, is facing a four-to-eight game suspension for a pattern of conduct the NFL does not approve. Losing Marshall for at least a quarter of the season would be a blow to the Broncos. Marshall was arrested three times in the span of one year, though he has yet to be convicted. The league now is weighing whether it should suspend Marshall, and how long the suspension would be.

[socalorado]

Hey numbnuts, we already have a Marshall Goodell thread goin.

[theAPAOps5]

I don't agree with it. I think 2 games is warranted 4 games is debatable but 8 games is complete BS.

[wolf754life]

Hey numbnuts, we already have a Marshall Goodell thread goin.


merge it, scheffter has spoken, minimum 4 games, how do you like our WR's now?

[socalorado]

I don't agree with it. I think 2 games is warranted 4 games is debatable but 8 games is complete BS.

Yeah. I think 2 is fair. 4 is gonna get alot of fans frustrated, with the tough front loaded schedule , 8 is complete BS. Agreed.

[theAPAOps5]

merge it, scheffter has spoken, minimum 4 games, how do you like our WR's now?

Well Royal will have to be amazing now and hopefully They can eek out at least a split of the 4 games or a winning record of the 8. If not the season will be lost and I think you might get your wish of a new coaching staff.

[Spider]

If you people had been nicer to me I would fill in for Marshal it would be like he never left ....... but since everyone pissed me off i will stay in wyoming ......;D

[theAPAOps5]

If you people had been nicer to me I would fill in for Marshal it would be like he never left ....... but since everyone pissed me off i will stay in wyoming ......;D

Dude you can't even handle your hose how can you play professional football!

[socalorado]

If you people had been nicer to me I would fill in for Marshal it would be like he never left ....... but since everyone pissed me off i will stay in wyoming ......;D

You would just end up punching Croyle in the throat!
$h!t, You most likely wouldnt see the field!
Shanny would probably have you hauling gravel to his new home!

[Spider]

Dude you can't even handle your hose how can you play professional football!

See this is what I am talking about

[Spider]

You would just end up punching Croyle in the throat!
$h!t, You most likely wouldnt see the field!
Shanny would probably have you hauling gravel to his new home!

See ....... ;D constant abuse

[PaintballCLE]

Well Royal will have to be amazing now and hopefully They can eek out at least a split of the 4 games or a winning record of the 8. If not the season will be lost and I think you might get your wish of a new coaching staff.

good point.... although when is the last time a rookie WR has made an impact on any team? Thats the one position that it usually takes 2-3 years before they start to come around.....unfortunately!

hey chad johnson is still out there! lol

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Haha!

[theAPAOps5]

What they would have to pay to get Chad Johnson would be too high. Might as well suck it up and hope for the best.

[Spider]

What they would have to pay to get Chad Johnson would be too high. Might as well suck it up and hope for the best.

Ocho Dropo

[PaintballCLE]

Dude you can't even handle your hose how can you play professional football!

you cant handle your own hose and you have the nerve to ask to handle mine? ;D

Oh wait.....sorry daddy long legs i forgot i was supposed to keep that a secret:rofl:

[SoDak Bronco]

if its 4 i think he will appeal it to 2...8 is nuts...are you freaking kidding me

[PaintballCLE]

What they would have to pay to get Chad Johnson would be too high. Might as well suck it up and hope for the best.

yeah i was just being optimistic.....of all the damn seasons i pick to go to all 16 games.....

[SoDak Bronco]

eddie royal will see the field at wr

[PaintballCLE]

you know what.....the hell with it.......as long as hes back by the cle game to torch that horrible secondary is all im asking for! Going to the game with like 8 browns fans.......we better win that one!

[Sassy]

eddie royal will see the field at wr

Yep!
Not a fan of Marshall off the field...but I don't think he deserves the 4-8 games off...that sucks!

[Sassy]

Who made Goodell God anyway?

[cutthemdown]

I don't agree with it. I think 2 games is warranted 4 games is debatable but 8 games is complete BS.

what if by giving him 8 games, the comish pounds it into marshalls head he's gotta fly straight? Maybe 2 games he just sort of grins and changes a little but not enough? You never know but no doubt Marshall deserves to get a suspension. No matter how long he better just take it like a man and make it his last one.

Either way this is going to be an ugly season.

[cutthemdown]

Who made Goodell God anyway?

The owners

[Sassy]

Maybe I should say how does the NFL overrule the law...like you guys have said...he hasn't been convicted of anything yet...

[BroncoBuff]

Zero. Unless there's conduct we don't know about.

Slipping on a McDonalds bag, knocking on the window of a taxi and having the case dismissed, and suffering extortion threats from a psycho ex who also happens to allege physical abuse, adds up to ... Zero.

And I would say the same thing for TO.

If he is suspended, there must be conduct we don't know ... and if the Broncos themselves really did receive an extortion demand from this woman, then B-March is entitled to every benefit of the doubt and then some regarding her allegations of physical abuse.

[Spider]

Yeah I agree 8 games ..better to do it now before Marshall gets into real trouble ......Besides we need a T.e. for power running in the redone

[broncofan2438]

Piece of ****ing ****

[SonOfLe-loLang]

I say Zero too...or one...hurting yourself " by slipping on a mcdonalds bag" isnt worthy of any penalty. So we're talking about some strange domestic battles between him and his crazy ex and a dui...am i missing something? This is ridiculous

[Kaylore]

Let's wait and see what the suspension actually is before we have a cow. If it is 8 games, this is no one's fault but Marshall's. He kept finding ways to be sitting in the back of cop cars with cuffs on. Get a clue, Marshall.

[BroncoBuff]

I say Zero too...or one...hurting yourself " by slipping on a mcdonalds bag" isnt worthy of any penalty. So we're talking about some strange domestic battles between him and his crazy ex and a dui...am i missing something? This is ridiculous
Sheesh, I forgot about the DUI ... Paymah too.

What discipline has Goodell handed out for DUIs?

[broncofan2438]

So how do we know this is true

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Let's wait and see what the suspension actually is before we have a cow. If it is 8 games, this is no one's fault but Marshall's. He kept finding ways to be sitting in the back of cop cars with cuffs on. Get a clue, Marshall.

I dont agree....8 games would be ridiculous, especially since the only thing he's been convicted of is a dui.

[Killericon]

Are there any scraps on the trade market/left in free agency we could pick up? Joe Horn? Eric Moulds?

...Chris Henry? Maybe now that he's acquitted, he'll pull a Josh Hamilton?

Okay, I'm kidding, but maybe we should look into Horn.

[BABronco]

See ....... ;D constant abuse

poor little spider getting bullied?

[ward63]

Who do you think this hurts and helps in making the roster?

[BlaK-Argentina]

I'm ok with 4 games because of the DUI only. But 8 games is ****ing crazy. If we lose him for half the season we're doomed.

[Killericon]

Who do you think this hurts and helps in making the roster?

Sammie Parker. I don't think it hurts anyone...

[BlaK-Argentina]

Sammie Parker. I don't think it hurts anyone...
It hurts the team though. I DO think he should be suspended, if only to hold him responsible for the crap he's been into, but 8 games would be terrible for the Broncos. Even though I think Jay can make any WR look at least average, Marshall is a playmaker and we need him bad.

Should have thought about it before ****ing up for the 100th time, Brandon. I'm pissed.

[NFLBRONCO]

First 4 games just got tougher imo.

[BroncoBuff]

Remember it's Darrell Jackson slotted in as backup B-Marsh's WR spot, so we're covered there. And depth-wise, I know lots of you don't care much for Glen Martinez, but he knows the offense and would be very competent backing up D-Jax for and length of time.

[BlaK-Argentina]

Remember it's Darrell Jackson slotted in as backup B-Marsh's WR spot, so we're covered there. And depth-wise, I know lots of you don't care much for Glen Martinez, but he knows the offense and would be very competent backing up D-Jax for and length of time.

PLEASE NO. Not Martinez again. :rofl:

[Greybeard]

If you people had been nicer to me I would fill in for Marshal it would be like he never left ....... but since everyone pissed me off i will stay in wyoming ......;D

I'M SORRY!! :Whaaaa!:

*gets down on knees and grovels*

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[NFLBRONCO]

Since Henry was not suspended last year no way Roger will overlook BM. If he got a warning teams (Oak) would cry foul. So imo Roger might make an example out of BM. We'll see what actually happens.

Our first few games got alot tougher if we lose him 4 or 8 games.

[Los Broncos]

8 is way to many, I hope to god that's not the case.

[BroncoMan4ever]

Haha!

Shut the **** up troll! even if Marshall is suspended, Denver will still have 3 wins on the season before Croyle has 1 for his career. So now who is in the worse position jackass.

[kmartin575]

good point.... although when is the last time a rookie WR has made an impact on any team? Thats the one position that it usually takes 2-3 years before they start to come around.....unfortunately!

hey chad johnson is still out there! lol

Dwayne Bowe, Marques Colston, Anquan Boldin

But your right, it usually doesn't happen.

[Hogan11]

Anything more than two games is excessive.

[kmartin575]

Yep!
Not a fan of Marshall off the field...but I don't think he deserves the 4-8 games off...that sucks!

Why not? Correct me if I am wrong but I believe Pacman Jones received his year long suspension without ever being convicted either.

[kmartin575]

Maybe I should say how does the NFL overrule the law...like you guys have said...he hasn't been convicted of anything yet...

Neither was Pacman Jones.

And Goodell specifically said the personal conduct policy allows suspensions to be made without an actual conviction. He expects players to hold themselves to a higher standard, which I would assume means not even being arrested.

[Florida_Bronco]

Why not? Correct me if I am wrong but I believe Pacman Jones received his year long suspension without ever being convicted either.

Pacman was involved in a shooting that left a man paralyzed.

[Killericon]

Pacman was involved in a shooting that left a man paralyzed.

That was my thought, too...

[longtimer]

If it is 8 games it could help us get Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss in the 2009 draft.

[Killericon]

If it is 8 games it could help us get Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss in the 2009 draft.

I think we'll be taking a WR or a Linebacker or a DT...Maybe a safety. I doubt very much that we'll be nabbing another OT next year.

[bronco610]

I'll wait for the official anouncement before weighing in.

[bpc]

Not really surprised. Then again, I'm in the screw Brandon Marshall group so I don't really care either. Hopefully a GOOD good can come in and pick up with Cutler where he left off. Not likely but stranger things have happened.

[BroncoMan4ever]

I think we'll be taking a WR or a Linebacker or a DT...Maybe a safety. I doubt very much that we'll be nabbing another OT next year.

I am thinking LB, RB, DB's and more DT's. I think the o-line is looking good and could become formidable for years to come

[BroncoMan4ever]

Rod Smith, the classiest man to ever wear a Broncos uniform believes in and is mentoring BMarsh. That is good enough for me. In Rod I will trust, and so should you. If he says BMarsh is turning the corner and getting away from all his problems, i will believe him.

on a side note, i wish Rod could convince Marshall to change his number to something in the 80's. But not number 80. As far as i am convinced no one should ever get to wear that number for Denver again. 80 is Rod Smith just like 7 is Elway. nothing can ever come close to earning those numbers

[ZONA]

I think the Broncos are going to try their best to explain most of his troubles were because of a domestic issue with his woman. They're not drug related. I highly doubt he gets more then 2 games. But as he sits there watching his team play while he is suspended, especially if they lose, guys are really gonna be frickin upset with his stupid ass. They're gonna lose trust in him and that's hard to get back. Especially if it's the guy who is throwing you the ball. Get him all pissed and he just might start looking at other targets before he does Marshall. Heck with the fines, these guys can afford it. What's really gonna tell you alot is if the other players getting upset at him bothers him and makes him change. If it doesn't phase him, he's not really not a team guy and I don't think he will last long here.

[kmartin575]

Pacman was involved in a shooting that left a man paralyzed.

Ok, point taken. But nobody is asking for or predicting Marshall to be suspended for an entire season. So if Goodell was to suspend Marshall for 4-8 games or however long, I don't think it would be inconsistent with recent suspensions.

[rmsanger]

to be honest I think he needs a year off to straighten his ass out...

[Spider]

poor little spider getting bullied?

Pretty much

[elsid13]

Pretty much

It only happens to truckers that drive trucks with "flames" on them

[montrose]

Someone want to explain to me how Jared Allen - convicted of multiple DUIs - got 2 games and BMarsh is staring down a minimum of 4 without any convictions? I hate to play this card but the Marshall camp may want to put a call into the NAACP. Oh, and I'm not black.

[DenverBrit]

2 games and a lecture.
Guy on the light rail said so.

[broncofan2438]

Yea i say two games

[Kaylore]

Someone want to explain to me how Jared Allen - convicted of multiple DUIs - got 2 games and BMarsh is staring down a minimum of 4 without any convictions? I hate to play this card but the Marshall camp may want to put a call into the NAACP. Oh, and I'm not black.

Because Allen wasn't arrested for wrongful imprisonment and then again for beating a girl.

[dbfan4life]

Rod Smith, the classiest man to ever wear a Broncos uniform believes in and is mentoring BMarsh. That is good enough for me. In Rod I will trust, and so should you. If he says BMarsh is turning the corner and getting away from all his problems, i will believe him.

on a side note, i wish Rod could convince Marshall to change his number to something in the 80's. But not number 80. As far as i am convinced no one should ever get to wear that number for Denver again. 80 is Rod Smith just like 7 is Elway. nothing can ever come close to earning those numbers

We'll they're still letting the #84 out....

[socalorado]

Because Allen wasn't arrested for wrongful imprisonment and then again for beating a girl.

Allen got 2 DUI's. How far apart were they?
I think that may also play into this.
Marshall is/was on a tear. What was the time span of his arrests?
Like, 5 months?!?!?

[Kaylore]

Allen got 2 DUI's. How far apart were they?
I think that may also play into this.
Marshall is/was on a tear. What was the time span of his arrests?
Like, 5 months?!?!?

That's true. In fact wasn't Allen's a 4 game and he had it reduced to 2? No, that doesn't seem right at all.

[elsid13]

Because Allen wasn't arrested for wrongful imprisonment and then again for beating a girl.

Yeah because a dismissed charge and pending one are always worse the being actually found guilty in court of law. Nice to see we have moved to the Napoleonic Legal System

[Hogan11]

That's true. In fact wasn't Allen's a 4 game and he had it reduced to 2? No, that doesn't seem right at all.

Could the 4 game thing come from the fact that Marshall aspires to be a high profile showman and "star"? Examples are tended to be made of such people and this could be where the downside of the whole "Baby TO" persona comes into play. It warrants no more than two games IMO, not 4 to 8...clearly something else is coming into play here.

[ScottXray]

Anything more than 2 games is out of line. Even that is harsh.

4-8 is unreasonable and should be fought based on other suspensions and the seriousness of the charges involved. Goodell is going to end up getting the league in court often if he keeps this up.

[theAPAOps5]

Could the 4 game thing come from the fact that Marshall aspires to be a high profile showman and "star"? Examples are tended to be made of such people and this could be where the downside of the whole "Baby TO" persona comes into play. It warrants no more than two games IMO, not 4 to 8...clearly something else is coming into play here.

Wait so they are going to punish someone for aspiring to be a star in the league which would garner it more attention and eventually more revenue. Thats whats wrong with this commissioner. He is beyond heavy handed without due process.

I mean seriously people the guy hasn't even been convicted of anything yet. The imprisonment charge was dropped because it we erroneous and he hasn't been formally charged yet in the other. When he gets his DUI conviction then he warrants a suspension but the league is seriously wrong if he gets 8 games if that ends up being the only conviction. 4 games max should be the suspension.

[Popps]

Pacman was involved in a shooting that left a man paralyzed.

By all accounts, Marshall was involved in an incident that left a man dead.


The issue here is that we're seeing a pattern and that's why he's up for disciplinary action.

[Hogan11]

Wait so they are going to punish someone for aspiring to be a star in the league which would garner it more attention and eventually more revenue.

To hammer home the league conduct policy........apparently so.

[kmartin575]

Someone want to explain to me how Jared Allen - convicted of multiple DUIs - got 2 games and BMarsh is staring down a minimum of 4 without any convictions? I hate to play this card but the Marshall camp may want to put a call into the NAACP. Oh, and I'm not black.

He originally got 4 but it got reduced to 2.

[theAPAOps5]

I guess so but I think it would be harsh. Check that, anything over 4 games would be overboard.

[Hotrod]

I guess we will get to see what Mustard brings to the table.

Seriously 8 games would be bull**** 4 would be stupid and 2 is prolly deserved.

[Denver724]

In my opinion, our first 8 games are a lot tougher than the last 8. Not having Marshall could have a very negative impact on our post-season hopes.

[Florida_Bronco]

By all accounts, Marshall was involved in an incident that left a man dead.

Involved? Yes

Responsible? Not by any stretch of the imagination.

[Popps]

Involved? Yes

Responsible? Not by any stretch of the imagination.

Well, I wouldn't say that. Seems to depend who you asked. By the accounts that I read, the dispute involved Marshall and the gang members. To say he was responsible would only be conjecture, but someone pointed out that Pacman wasn't found responsible for the man's paralysis, either.

I understand your point completely. Pacman is a little beyond Marshall, at this point. But, we're still talking about patterns. Marshall is a problem and frankly, I wish he wasn't our problem at this point.

Do we really want another season of Travis Henry bull****? Week after week of "will he be suspended or not?"

[kmonty]

By all accounts, Marshall was involved in an incident that left a man dead.


The issue here is that we're seeing a pattern and that's why he's up for disciplinary action.

Marshall took a fist that night, according to Fatsis' book. Then his friend and teammate was killed. Yeah, let's include that in considering his punishment, that sounds more than fair. He hasn't been through enough already.

[BroncoBuff]

I guess we will get to see what Mustard brings to the table.
The key to Mustard making it - this year and every year recently - is whether we can find a long-snapper who plays a position. As long as Mike Leach is taking up a TE spot, Mustard will have to play OT or wait til somebody gets injured. You should be pimping Gandy or Weigman or Kory as long-snapper ... or maybe even Spencer Larsen.

[Florida_Bronco]

Well, I wouldn't say that. Seems to depend who you asked. By the accounts that I read, the dispute involved Marshall and the gang members. To say he was responsible would only be conjecture, but someone pointed out that Pacman wasn't found responsible for the man's paralysis, either.

I understand your point completely. Pacman is a little beyond Marshall, at this point. But, we're still talking about patterns. Marshall is a problem and frankly, I wish he wasn't our problem at this point.

Do we really want another season of Travis Henry bull****? Week after week of "will he be suspended or not?"

The dispute was an argument inside a club. Even if Marshall started it, he is still not responsible for the gang members premeditated murder.

While I understand your frustration, we have to remember that every incident save for the DUI has involved his psycho/gold digging ex girlfriend who now appears to be out of the picture finally.

Lets give him a chance to show he's finally got it.

[Falconer]

I would say that 8 games would be a little overboard. However, it isn't like Goodell just dreamed up this policy last night. The players have known for over a year now that mulitiple run-ins with the law will more than likely get you sent for a meeting with Mr. Goodell. Soon after you will have some kind of suspension.

While I hate that is happening to one of our best players, hopefully it will end up helping Marshall make the necessary changes in his life. As we all know, he has been in the news way too much for questionable antics and his repeated mantra of growing up needs to become a reality.

[prunch]

Where is the source link on this, I see nothing in the name-brand websites?

[OOJack]

Who made Goodell God anyway?

How awesome would it be to see Goodell get pulled over for a DUI? I would laugh all the way to him getting canned and flipped off.

The dude lets cheaters off scot-free, but would rather keep the games integrity by going after personal lives. He's made some good decisions, but I lost complete respect for him after Spygate. EFF HIM!

[kmonty]

Where is the source link on this, I see nothing in the name-brand websites?

NFL.com, check out the Jason Peters Buffalo story (it's a sub-story)

[Popps]

Marshall took a fist that night, according to Fatsis' book. Then his friend and teammate was killed. Yeah, let's include that in considering his punishment, that sounds more than fair. He hasn't been through enough already.

That's interesting. Most reports had Marshall spraying booze all over people in the club. (What that's about, I have no idea.) Then, Walker's eye-witness account (that no one has disputed) has Marshall continuing the confrontation outside at which time people had to separate him and the gang members.

Hey, I didn't say it should be "included" in his punishment. It's just got to be included if you're calculating what a ****-brain this guy is.

There seem to be two separate and very distinct categories of people on this forum.

1. People who embrace reality.

2. People who continue to make excuses for this ****-bag because he can catch a football.

Choose your camp.

[BroncoMan4ever]

We'll they're still letting the #84 out....

he wasn't a Bronco his entire career, and that is why he isn't among the status of Rod or Elway in deserving his number retired.
And don't give me that argument that John was a Colt, because that is crap, being drafted by a team only to never play a single down for them is not being on another team.

[ol number 7]

Anything more than two games is excessive.

Marshall must want to team up with "Champagne "Walker again. Letting gals bait him into physical altercations is just plain stupid.

[elsid13]

Well, I wouldn't say that. Seems to depend who you asked. By the accounts that I read, the dispute involved Marshall and the gang members. To say he was responsible would only be conjecture, but someone pointed out that Pacman wasn't found responsible for the man's paralysis, either.

I understand your point completely. Pacman is a little beyond Marshall, at this point. But, we're still talking about patterns. Marshall is a problem and frankly, I wish he wasn't our problem at this point.

Do we really want another season of Travis Henry bull****? Week after week of "will he be suspended or not?"

Dwill death isn't on Marshall, it on the punks who decide to pull the ****ing trigger. They had a choice, they are the ones that killed someone. Nothing Marshall could of done, justified thier actions!

[Popps]

The dispute was an argument inside a club. Even if Marshall started it, he is still not responsible for the gang members premeditated murder.

Again, you should read Walker's account. I know he's not a favorite around here, but he had no real reason to lie. He was almost shot, himself. He put Marshall outside, in confrontation with the gang members moments before the shooting... this spilling out from the club and Marshall's booze spraying incident.

This being a "premeditated" murder is extremely presumptive on your part and I've heard nothing to support that it wasn't sparked by events that night.





While I understand your frustration, we have to remember that every incident save for the DUI has involved his psycho/gold digging ex girlfriend who now appears to be out of the picture finally.

Lets give him a chance to show he's finally got it.

Again, why do we believe him and not the girlfriend? Because he can catch a football? And, even if his girlfriend is as evil as the big bad Denver Post, why would this guy stay involved with a situation that had to involve police on multiple occasions?

Add that to his arm injury and the rest of his bull****, along with a possible suspension... and I'd say his problems are FAR from "behind him."

Personally, I don't care if this turd has ability. I'm ready to put him on the next train with Travis Henry and get him out of our lives.

Or, we could go through another season of possible suspensions, bull**** and maybe Mike will even pull out the lie detector test.

[Popps]

Dwill death isn't on Marshall, it on the punks who decide to pull the ****ing trigger. They had a choice, they are the ones that killed someone. Nothing Marshall could of done, justified thier actions!

Absolutely agree.

That said, there were those involved who had no apparent reason to lie who believe Marshall's behavior had something to do with the incident. Just fits a pattern. If people want to pretend the pattern doesn't exist, have at it. That's fairly typical homer fan behavior.

Well, until the situation blows up like Travis Henry. Then, people suddenly come to their senses.

[OOJack]

Absolutely agree.

That said, there were those involved who had no apparent reason to lie who believe Marshall's behavior had something to do with the incident. Just fits a pattern. If people want to pretend the pattern doesn't exist, have at it. That's fairly typical homer fan behavior.

Well, until the situation blows up like Travis Henry. Then, people suddenly come to their senses.

Popps, I think you're way off base with the dwill situation. It was new years, Marshall was celebrating like the rest of world. No one sane would think partying hard would lead to someone shooting at them.

Yeah, he's being immature and he needs to act like a man. But pulling that situation into your argument doesn't hold up.

[Kaylore]

Oh great. Popps is calling Marshall a murderer. You've just entered the twilight zone! ::)

[Ambiguous]

he wasn't a Bronco his entire career, and that is why he isn't among the status of Rod or Elway in deserving his number retired.
And don't give me that argument that John was a Colt, because that is crap, being drafted by a team only to never play a single down for them is not being on another team.

But John Elway was a Colt at one point too.

[Mountain Bronco]

I was thinking 2 games. He deserves some punishment, but 4 is a bit much 8 is horse**** and Goodel is obviously powertriping.

[Mountain Bronco]

If a player can get 8 games and has never been convicted of any crime whatsoever, but roid users (cough Merriman cough) only get 4 games and the pro-bowl bid and cheaters (cough pats cough) get a slap on the wrist, he isn't targeting the right thing. Cleaning up the leagues image is good, but he is starting to piss me off with his high and mighty crap. Plus, seems he has it out for Shanny because he beat the system last year with Henry.

[Spider]

I wouldnt have a problem with 8 game suspension ......... Use B Marsh as an example , 1 dui is one to many ...... 1 st dui offene should carry 1 year in Jail mandatory ........

[Mediator12]

I posted this in the other dead thread....

Oh my, has the objectivity gone out the window around here. What is going on here is a whole bunch of people crying about the punishment, even though it fits the mandate and the warnings from the Commissioner. It is the consequences side of his actions, and it was well established before his arrests people.

The suspension will be for getting arrested multiple times in over a year. Chris Henry was not convicted of anything before he served his suspension and the same will apply here to Marshall.

The NFL is trying to stop the PATTERN of behavior. Getting arrested a lot is going to get you suspended! Hello, it has been going on for awhile here and even though people would LIKE to not see it with Marshall, the arrest reports are there. The Behavior is not subjective, it is not about being guilty, its about getting arrested and making the league look like a bunch of thugs. To the common fan, who does not dive into the details like every judge here on the Mane, Marshall looks like a common thug getting arrested as much as he has! The media treats his arrests like just that and Goodell has warned players and teams repeatedly that this is going to happen.

Keep rationalizing and justifying his behavior any way you want. Keep calling Goodell names for enforcing the policy he set in place BEFORE Marshall was arrested. It does not change the fact that Marshall is going to be punished for What he did. He violated the NFL's conduct policy 3 times in a year, was injured in a dubious accident, and has shown little remorse publically for his behavior. If he was my son, I would be praying for the consequences to catch up to his attitude. Then, he just might realize life has consequences instead of acting like he is above them.

[PLOWHORSE]

Lets go get a real badass WR in Boldin!

[wolf754life]

amen, agreed, he needs to be held accountable!

[theAPAOps5]

I wouldnt have a problem with 8 game suspension ......... Use B Marsh as an example , 1 dui is one to many ...... 1 st dui offene should carry 1 year in Jail mandatory ........

Considering what happens to your CDL I can totally agree with this.

[Inkana7]

Lets go get a real badass WR in Boldin!

....in 2011.

[ward63]

I wouldnt have a problem with 8 game suspension ......... Use B Marsh as an example , 1 dui is one to many ...... 1 st dui offene should carry 1 year in Jail mandatory ........

Off topic...the jails are crowded enough right now, what do you think when people get a DUI and go to jail for a year? I don't like DUI's of course, but it wouldn't work.

[Spider]

Off topic...the jails are crowded enough right now, what do you think when people get a DUI and go to jail for a year? I don't like DUI's of course, but it wouldn't work.
Bull ....... it would work......

[theAPAOps5]

Off topic...the jails are crowded enough right now, what do you think when people get a DUI and go to jail for a year? I don't like DUI's of course, but it wouldn't work.

Just do like the Sheriff in Phoenix and put cons in pink stripes and make them live in tents.

[Steve Prefontaine]

I posted this in the other dead thread....

Oh my, has the objectivity gone out the window around here. What is going on here is a whole bunch of people crying about the punishment, even though it fits the mandate and the warnings from the Commissioner. It is the consequences side of his actions, and it was well established before his arrests people.

The suspension will be for getting arrested multiple times in over a year. Chris Henry was not convicted of anything before he served his suspension and the same will apply here to Marshall.

The NFL is trying to stop the PATTERN of behavior. Getting arrested a lot is going to get you suspended! Hello, it has been going on for awhile here and even though people would LIKE to not see it with Marshall, the arrest reports are there. The Behavior is not subjective, it is not about being guilty, its about getting arrested and making the league look like a bunch of thugs. To the common fan, who does not dive into the details like every judge here on the Mane, Marshall looks like a common thug getting arrested as much as he has! The media treats his arrests like just that and Goodell has warned players and teams repeatedly that this is going to happen.

Keep rationalizing and justifying his behavior any way you want. Keep calling Goodell names for enforcing the policy he set in place BEFORE Marshall was arrested. It does not change the fact that Marshall is going to be punished for What he did. He violated the NFL's conduct policy 3 times in a year, was injured in a dubious accident, and has shown little remorse publically for his behavior. If he was my son, I would be praying for the consequences to catch up to his attitude. Then, he just might realize life has consequences instead of acting like he is above them.

+1. Great post Med.

[stugotsII]

Another great pickup for the Broncos...

Bravo management! I hear OJ Simpson is ready to make a come back, plus Clarrett gets out of the clink in like 11 years, so we could pick him up too.

[PRBronco]

Another great pickup for the Broncos...

Bravo management! I hear OJ Simpson is ready to make a come back, plus Clarrett gets out of the clink in like 11 years, so we could pick him up too.

You make it sound like they signed him as a free agent with a well known rap sheet. He was actually an excellent pick up, I bet every GM in the league was wishing they had taken him in the second, if not first round that year, before this off season. He's far and away the best receiver Shanahan's ever drafted, and probably one his best draftees period.

...he's just unfortunately RETARDED.

[Florida_Bronco]

Again, you should read Walker's account. I know he's not a favorite around here, but he had no real reason to lie. He was almost shot, himself. He put Marshall outside, in confrontation with the gang members moments before the shooting... this spilling out from the club and Marshall's booze spraying incident.

This being a "premeditated" murder is extremely presumptive on your part and I've heard nothing to support that it wasn't sparked by events that night.

I understand there was a confrontation, but the gang members clearly had time to cool down yet choose to get in a car and chase down the limo. I think that would meet the legal definition of a premeditated murder. Had they fired shots during or immediately after the confrontation, then you could argue it was a crime of passion.

Again, why do we believe him and not the girlfriend? Because he can catch a football? Why would we believe her and not him? Works both ways, I just give the benefit of the doubt to Brandon, especially after the seemingly well founded rumors of extortion and the imprisonment charges being thrown out.

And, even if his girlfriend is as evil as the big bad Denver Post, why would this guy stay involved with a situation that had to involve police on multiple occasions? Who knows. You do stupid **** when you're "in love" I guess.

Add that to his arm injury and the rest of his bull****, along with a possible suspension... and I'd say his problems are FAR from "behind him." I disagree. I think I'm a pretty good judge of character, and I don't see a bad person in Brandon Marshall.

[Florida_Bronco]

Oh great. Popps is calling Marshall a murderer. You've just entered the twilight zone! ::)

He certainly is implying that D-Will's death is Brandon's fault, which is complete horse****.

[Donk]

I understand there was a confrontation, but the gang members clearly had time to cool down yet choose to get in a car and chase down the limo. I think that would meet the legal definition of a premeditated murder. Had they fired shots during or immediately after the confrontation, then you could argue it was a crime of passion.

Why would we believe her and not him? Works both ways, I just give the benefit of the doubt to Brandon, especially after the seemingly well founded rumors of extortion and the imprisonment charges being thrown out.

Who knows. You do stupid **** when you're "in love" I guess.

I disagree. I think I'm a pretty good judge of character, and I don't see a bad person in Brandon Marshall.


For once in your worthless life you are right.

[theAPAOps5]

Again, you should read Walker's account. I know he's not a favorite around here, but he had no real reason to lie. He was almost shot, himself. He put Marshall outside, in confrontation with the gang members moments before the shooting... this spilling out from the club and Marshall's booze spraying incident.

This being a "premeditated" murder is extremely presumptive on your part and I've heard nothing to support that it wasn't sparked by events that night.




I wish you could hear what those in the know, the real know, say about Walker and that night. Then it would make more sense why he is putting the light on someone else.

People are quick to put all the blame on Marshall but there is another story out there. Cecil Lammey has eluded to it and I have heard bits and pieces of it too.

[Popps]

Chris Henry was not convicted of anything before he served his suspension and the same will apply here to Marshall.

The NFL is trying to stop the PATTERN of behavior. Getting arrested a lot is going to get you suspended! Hello, it has been going on for awhile here and even though people would LIKE to not see it with Marshall, the arrest reports are there. The Behavior is not subjective, it is not about being guilty, its about getting arrested and making the league look like a bunch of thugs. To the common fan, who does not dive into the details like every judge here on the Mane, Marshall looks like a common thug getting arrested as much as he has! The media treats his arrests like just that and Goodell has warned players and teams repeatedly that this is going to happen.

Keep rationalizing and justifying his behavior any way you want. Keep calling Goodell names for enforcing the policy he set in place BEFORE Marshall was arrested. It does not change the fact that Marshall is going to be punished for What he did. He violated the NFL's conduct policy 3 times in a year, was injured in a dubious accident, and has shown little remorse publically for his behavior. If he was my son, I would be praying for the consequences to catch up to his attitude. Then, he just might realize life has consequences instead of acting like he is above them.


No, see... the Denver Post is picking on him. You need to lighten up. There's a hysterical joke thread about how innocent Marshall really is. You should drop in.

[theAPAOps5]

No, see... the Denver Post is picking on him. You need to lighten up. There's a hysterical joke thread about how innocent Marshall really is. You should drop in.

Nah the joke is you and how you are basically calling Marshall a murderer. The guy deserves to be suspended but not for 8 games.

[Popps]

Nah the joke is you and how you are basically calling Marshall a murderer.

Yea... I never called him a murderer, silly.

I said he's got a ****ty pattern of behavior and I don't doubt for a minute that his antics were contributory to the events that led to DW's shooting.

A little different really, isn't it.

[theAPAOps5]

Yea... I never called him a murderer, silly.

I said he's got a ****ty pattern of behavior and I don't doubt for a minute that his antics were contributory to the events that led to DW's shooting.

A little different really, isn't it.

Silly! :spit:

You are right I wrongly called you out! Its easy to feed off others. I don't know how much he really was involved. The radio guys here always make mention of him not being to blame at all. But they never go into detail because of how they got the info. So who can really say. I only know another side of the story but it doesn't involve Marshall so I can't say if he is or isn't directly the cause.

[watermock]

To insinuate Marshall should be suspended in part because of his spraying bubbly in a strip club is absurd. Not only wasnt he convicted, he wasnt even arrested, he's just a witness who just as easily caught that bullet. Maybe it WAS meant for him, but your dealing in so many what ifs it ludicrous.

[Popps]

Silly! :spit:

You are right I wrongly called you out! Its easy to feed off others. I don't know how much he really was involved. The radio guys here always make mention of him not being to blame at all. But they never go into detail because of how they got the info. So who can really say. I only know another side of the story but it doesn't involve Marshall so I can't say if he is or isn't directly the cause.

Fair enough, and it wouldn't surprise me if Walker was more involved than he let on. I don't take either of those guys for being overly gifted in the brains department.

[theAPAOps5]

Fair enough, and it wouldn't surprise me if Walker was more involved than he let on. I don't take either of those guys for being overly gifted in the brains department.

Totally agree with you on that.

[Florida_Bronco]

For once in your worthless life you are right.

Who the hell are you? ???

[wolf754life]

i am the truth, the way, and the light

[Mediator12]

i am the truth, the way, and the light

Dude, that is not funny thwack

I realize you like to be over the top, but that is not a smart direction to go.

[That One Guy]

I wouldnt have a problem with 8 game suspension ......... Use B Marsh as an example , 1 dui is one to many ...... 1 st dui offene should carry 1 year in Jail mandatory ........

The lifetime criminal who makes Marshall look like a nun saying he should be made an example of.

I'll take that to mean that DUI is not one of the many charges on that record of yours?

[SportinOne]

Wait... what?

1st DUI and 1 year in jail? Are you serious?

I can see why they would take a license or a CDL away for that, but a year in jail? I haven't had a DUI, but my girlfriend was at .11 when she got hers. So do you honestly think she should go to jail for 365 days.. minimum? Get off your high horse. It's my opinion that truck drivers truly do believe that they own the roads that they are forced to drive on every day..

[colonelbeef]

Incredibly stupid to speculate when he has been convicted of absolutely zero so far.