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Spider
07-23-2008, 10:20 PM
I wont post it , but the Anbar Gaffe was just awfull ........what in the hell was McCain thinking ?

jhat01
07-23-2008, 10:26 PM
It's senility dude. He's just old and worn down. I firmly believe that he wouldn't have the physical or mental strength for 4 years in office. I like him too, I think he's a genuine guy for the most part, he just doesn't have it

Spider
07-23-2008, 10:30 PM
It's senility dude. He's just old and worn down. I firmly believe that he wouldn't have the physical or mental strength for 4 years in office. I like him too, I think he's a genuine guy for the most part, he just doesn't have it

Yeah , it is a damn shame .......

BroncoBuff
07-23-2008, 11:42 PM
He's just not qualified from a mental standpoint - I really believe that.

BroncoBuff
07-23-2008, 11:46 PM
Here's a list of McCain gaffes I posted earlier:


McCain has made numerous collossal blunders in just the past two or three months:

He mistakenly referred to the Iranians as Sunnis, specifically discussing Iran arming the Sunni insurgents .. clearly a context that rules out a "misspeak."
He made the exact same "Iran arming Sunni militias" mistake a couple days later in Israel, and Lieberman stepped up and corrected him.
Supposedly he made the mistake a third time that week, though I don't have the details when.
He talked about "Czeckoslovakia" this week (and didn't stop to correct himself).
Then he talked about "Czeckoslovakia," again, the very next day! :oyvey:
About two months after the invasion of Iraq, he was quoted in an interview - and I'm not making this up - that "Sunnis and Shi'as don't have a history of violence between them, I think they'll get along."
In a foolish statement that exposed him as a seat-of-the-pants know-nothing in the GW mold, (a gaffe CBS News actually edited OUT of their airing of the interview), he said the Sunni ceasefires, aka the "Anbar Awakening," was made possible by the Surge. Whoa there, old feller! ... the Surge happened five months after the Anbar Awakening. What made this gaffe even more egregious (and by all rights utterly humiliating), was that he said it in the midst of an attack against Obama for "not understanding" what's going on in Iraq! :~ohyah!:
The afore-mentioned discussion of border security between two nations that do not share a border. PLEASE POST HERE when he corrects that error ... because I don't think he will. He's a stubborn old coot who can't be bothered to educate himself, and he is also very unpopular among the other Senators


And you really wanna chide with "King Obama?" Well, know this: if Barack Obama even whispered the work "Czeckoslovakia," or for even one moment confused Sunnis with Shi'a, or betrayed a complete ignorance of the timetable for major events in Iraq, he would be u-t-t-e-r-l-y d-e-s-t-r-o-y-e-d. McCain and the 527s would be all over the air claiming it was proof Obama is "not ready to lead."

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2008, 12:47 AM
He missed his window (which was in 2000, IMO.)

He can thank the Rove dirty tricks department for that loss.

Pseudofool
07-24-2008, 01:22 AM
CBS edited their broadcast to avoid showing the gaffe, instead they showed his answer to the previous question and covered the edit with a picture of McCain and Petreus, since CBS has said they are not happy with it, and mistakes happen.

You also got love the McCain backtrack on this as well suggesting that "The Surge" actually refers not to an increase in the number of troops but all things that are counter-insurgent. Absurd.

Joe-voter really isn't hip to this nuance, but in the debates, I imagine McCain will be toast because of these bumbles and out-and-out lies and distortions.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2008, 07:18 AM
• Veterans accuse McCain of wanting to occupy Iraq indefinitely (http://www.yahoo.com/s/922630)

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2008, 07:29 AM
Quotes

"We have a lot of work to do and it's a very hard struggle,
particularly given the situation on the Iraq/Pakistan border."

- McCain, pretending Iraq and Pakistan share a border Link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/21/mccain-owns-first-foreign_n_114013.html)

http://www.bartcop.com/iraq-pakistan-border.gif
That "border" Gramps talks about is a country called 'Iran.'

Crushaholic
07-24-2008, 10:55 AM
I truly believe that McCain in 2008 will be the most inept presidential candidate since Bob Dole. It depresses me that the Republicans pushed the wrong candidate. They must have (wrongly) anticipated that the Democrats would nominate their "establishment" candidate (Hillary).

Traveler
07-24-2008, 11:11 AM
Old man yells at cloud!:olddude: That's the image that comes to mind whenever I see Mac-Cane lately.

Traveler
07-24-2008, 11:15 AM
They must have (wrongly) anticipated that the Democrats would nominate their "establishment" candidate (Hillary).

maybe that's why they trying to create chaos during the Dem primaries. They really preferred to run against Hillary.

BroncoBuff
07-24-2008, 11:18 AM
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc173/jbl55/oldmanyellsatcloud.jpg

DenverBrit
07-24-2008, 12:08 PM
maybe that's why they trying to create chaos during the Dem primaries. They really preferred to run against Hillary.

It was their best hope of bringing out the far right wing conservatives.
The country would be much better off if that group just stayed home, listened Rush Limbaugh all day and skipped the vote. ;D

Bronco Jamus
07-24-2008, 12:29 PM
It was their best hope of bringing out the far right wing conservatives.
The country would be much better off if that group just stayed home, listened Rush Limbaugh all day and skipped the vote. ;D

See I think the whole spectrum has it's place.

Play2win
07-24-2008, 12:47 PM
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc173/jbl55/oldmanyellsatcloud.jpg

OMG-- That is soooo RICH...


McCane IS Grampa SIMPSON....

Hilarious! :rofl: :rofl:

Play2win
07-24-2008, 12:50 PM
It was their best hope of bringing out the far right wing conservatives.
The country would be much better off if that group just stayed home, listened Rush Limbaugh all day and skipped the vote. ;D

Or they could down a whole bunch of Vicadin, and just SAY they listened to Limbaugh all day...

It would amount to about the same thing...

DenverBrit
07-24-2008, 01:16 PM
Or they could down a whole bunch of Vicadin, and just SAY they listened to Limbaugh all day...

It would amount to about the same thing...

Either way, they'll be as dumb as a box of doorknobs and shouldn't be voting. :~ohyah!:

Traveler
07-24-2008, 01:49 PM
Mac-cane!

Play2win
07-24-2008, 02:04 PM
Either way, they'll be as dumb as a box of doorknobs and shouldn't be voting. :~ohyah!:

I contest... a box of doorknobs can at least, sometimes, in some small way, actually be useful... ;D

The Lone Bolt
07-24-2008, 02:32 PM
http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/mccain__oPt.jpg

Rigs11
07-24-2008, 03:04 PM
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m263/jordanpb69/mccain-dance.gif

Rigs11
07-24-2008, 03:08 PM
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff176/YaleBox/carrot_for_president.jpg

DenverBrit
07-24-2008, 03:22 PM
I contest... a box of doorknobs can at least, sometimes, in some small way, actually be useful... ;D

My humble apologies to all doorknobs. :notworthy

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2008, 05:55 PM
I truly believe that McCain in 2008 will be the most inept presidential candidate since Bob Dole. It depresses me that the Republicans pushed the wrong candidate. They must have (wrongly) anticipated that the Democrats would nominate their "establishment" candidate (Hillary).

As I've said all along, I don't believe it's an accident that the rethugs chose a such a weak candidate in McSame.

They know the most disastrous of the Bush policy chickens are still coming home to roost, and they are counting on Obama looking like the second coming of Jimmy Carter.

Their plan, IMO, is to cut and run, leave a Democratic president holding the bag (sound familiar?) and position themselves to take back the WH (and possibly regain their majorities in both houses) in four years.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2008, 05:56 PM
LMAO @ those 'toons. :laugh:

BroncoBuff
07-24-2008, 06:04 PM
OMG-- That is soooo RICH...


McCane IS Grampa SIMPSON....

Hilarious! :rofl: :rofl:
Gotta source that credit ... Keith Olbermann ;D

ant1999e
07-24-2008, 06:19 PM
• Veterans accuse McCain of wanting to occupy Iraq indefinitely (http://www.yahoo.com/s/922630) "We've succeeded. And we will come home in victory. And it'll be based on conditions. But al-Qaida is not defeated. They're on the run, but they're not defeated.

So the Iraqi gov. wants us out. Lets pull out and finish what we started in Afganistan.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2008, 06:41 PM
So the Iraqi gov. wants us out. Lets pull out and finish what we started in Afganistan.

Seven years later, and Osama bin Laden is still free.

I want to hear something specific from both candidates as to what they plan to do about this.

BABronco
07-24-2008, 07:17 PM
I wont post it , but the Anbar Gaffe was just awfull ........what in the hell was McCain thinking ?

the question isnt what the hell was he thinking. it is, why the hell do you like him?

Spider
07-24-2008, 07:21 PM
the question isnt what the hell was he thinking. it is, why the hell do you like him?

he served our country .....and back in 2000 he made alot of sense .......

Play2win
07-24-2008, 07:24 PM
Gotta source that credit ... Keith Olbermann ;D

I can absolutely see that. That episode must have been a riot...

I really haven't watched any TV for a while... I miss my Jeopardy, but thats about it...

I have my Netflix, iTunes and the Internet to keep me entertained... :thumbsup:

Drek
07-24-2008, 08:34 PM
It was their best hope of bringing out the far right wing conservatives.
The country would be much better off if that group just stayed home, listened Rush Limbaugh all day and skipped the vote. ;D
Hell no.

Everyone has the right to vote, and everyone in this country has no reason not to exercise it.

But there is also no excuse for not educating yourself heading into an election, especially with the internet at nearly everyone's finger tips.

Case in point, today I was talking with my mother, a strong moral conservative who has little interest in economic and foreign policy. She votes based on christian morality, most importantly on the subject of abortion.

Today she said to me that she didn't even see a point in voting, because Obama will obviously go pro-choice, as the democratic tradition, and McCain has never been a real pro-lifer by any stretch, even still after all his flipping from previous stances he remains pro-stem cell research.

So she said how could she vote for either candidate and that she saw no need to vote. But that is playing into the two party system's hands. I implored her to look at the two truly pro-life candidates, Ron Paul and Bob Barr, and explore their other stances. Chose the one of those two that best fits her secondary beliefs, and vote accordingly.

As long as people feel like their vote is worthless because it doesn't fit what the two party system is offering then we'll never see the kind of political revolution that this nation was originally founded to open doors for.

Decide what matters to you. Educate yourself on who meets what you want. Vote for that person. We're all human first, American's second. That should always take president over being a republican, democrat, libertarian, or any other political group. Its time for the citizenry of this nation to wake up and make that fact known.

The supposed "socialist" democratic party isn't a threat to our civil liberties, its the growing level of near fascism the two party system is imposing on us. Russia is now bordering on that level of political control thanks to a one party system and it is creating some legitimate turmoil across the globe. We're only one step removed from similar crisis, and every American who doesn't vote their conscience because they want a "winner" from the two party system is to blame.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2008, 08:55 PM
he served our country .....and back in 2000 he made alot of sense .......

He just wasn't enough of a God-fearing Christian cowboy you'd like to have a beer with. ;)

DenverBrit
07-24-2008, 08:58 PM
Hell no.

Everyone has the right to vote, and everyone in this country has no reason not to exercise it.

But there is also no excuse for not educating yourself heading into an election, especially with the internet at nearly everyone's finger tips.

Case in point, today I was talking with my mother, a strong moral conservative who has little interest in economic and foreign policy. She votes based on christian morality, most importantly on the subject of abortion.

Today she said to me that she didn't even see a point in voting, because Obama will obviously go pro-choice, as the democratic tradition, and McCain has never been a real pro-lifer by any stretch, even still after all his flipping from previous stances he remains pro-stem cell research.

So she said how could she vote for either candidate and that she saw no need to vote. But that is playing into the two party system's hands. I implored her to look at the two truly pro-life candidates, Ron Paul and Bob Barr, and explore their other stances. Chose the one of those two that best fits her secondary beliefs, and vote accordingly.

As long as people feel like their vote is worthless because it doesn't fit what the two party system is offering then we'll never see the kind of political revolution that this nation was originally founded to open doors for.

Decide what matters to you. Educate yourself on who meets what you want. Vote for that person. We're all human first, American's second. That should always take president over being a republican, democrat, libertarian, or any other political group. Its time for the citizenry of this nation to wake up and make that fact known.

The supposed "socialist" democratic party isn't a threat to our civil liberties, its the growing level of near fascism the two party system is imposing on us. Russia is now bordering on that level of political control thanks to a one party system and it is creating some legitimate turmoil across the globe. We're only one step removed from similar crisis, and every American who doesn't vote their conscience because they want a "winner" from the two party system is to blame.

Vote however you wish, it's a democracy......mostly. ;D