Has Ron Paul become a world-collapse conspiracist?

[BroncoBuff]

Ron Paul is a real Debbie-Downer.... seems a bit harsh:

Ron Paul warns of pending global catastrophe
July 9, 2008

Congressman Paul said: "Madam Speaker, I have, for the past 35 years, expressed my grave concern for the future of America . The course we have taken over the past century has threatened our liberties, security and prosperity. In spite of these long-held concerns, I have days--growing more frequent all the time--when I'm convinced the time is now upon us that some Big Events are about to occur. These fast-approaching events will not go unnoticed. They will affect all of us. They will not be limited to just some areas of our country. The world economy and political system will share in the chaos about to be unleashed.

Though the world has long suffered from the senselessness of wars that should have been avoided, my greatest fear is that the course on which we find ourselves will bring even greater conflict and economic suffering to the innocent people of the world--unless we quickly change our ways.

America , with her traditions of free markets and property rights, led the way toward great wealth and progress throughout the world as well as at home. Since we have lost our confidence in the principles of liberty, self reliance, hard work and frugality, and instead took on empire building, financed through inflation and debt, all this has changed. This is indeed frightening and an historic event.

The problem we face is not new in history. Authoritarianism has been around a long time. For centuries, inflation and debt have been used by tyrants to hold power, promote aggression, and provide “bread and circuses” for the people. The notion that a country can afford “guns and butter” with no significant penalty existed even before the 1960s when it became a popular slogan. It was then, though, we were told the Vietnam War and the massive expansion of the welfare state were not problems. The seventies proved that assumption wrong.

Today things are different from even ancient times or the 1970s. There is something to the argument that we are now a global economy. The world has more people and is more integrated due to modern technology, communications, and travel. If modern technology had been used to promote the ideas of liberty, free markets, sound money and trade, it would have ushered in a new golden age--a globalism we could accept.

Instead, the wealth and freedom we now enjoy are shrinking and rest upon a fragile philosophic infrastructure. It is not unlike the levies and bridges in our own country that our system of war and welfare has caused us to ignore.

I'm fearful that my concerns have been legitimate and may even be worse than I first thought. They are now at our doorstep. Time is short for making a course correction before this grand experiment in liberty goes into deep hibernation.

There are reasons to believe this coming crisis is different and bigger than the world has ever experienced. Instead of using globalism in a positive fashion, it's been used to globalize all of the mistakes of the politicians, bureaucrats and central bankers.

Being an unchallenged sole superpower was never accepted by us with a sense of humility and respect. Our arrogance and aggressiveness have been used to promote a world empire backed by the most powerful army of history. This type of globalist intervention creates problems for all citizens of the world and fails to contribute to the well-being of the world's populations. Just think how our personal liberties have been trashed here at home in the last decade.

The financial crisis, still in its early stages, is apparent to everyone: gasoline prices over $4 a gallon; skyrocketing education and medical-care costs; the collapse of the housing bubble; the bursting of the NASDAQ bubble; stock markets plunging; unemployment rising; massive underemployment; excessive government debt; and unmanageable personal debt. Little doubt exists as to whether we'll get stagflation. The question that will soon be asked is: When will the stagflation become an inflationary depression?

There are various reasons that the world economy has been globalized and the problems we face are worldwide. We cannot understand what we're facing without understanding fiat money and the long-developing dollar bubble.

There were several stages. From the inception of the Federal Reserve System in 1913 to 1933, the Central Bank established itself as the official dollar manager. By 1933, Americans could no longer own gold, thus removing restraint on the Federal Reserve to inflate for war and welfare.

By 1945, further restraints were removed by creating the Bretton-Woods Monetary System making the dollar the reserve currency of the world. This system lasted up until 1971. During the period between 1945 and 1971, some restraints on the Fed remained in place. Foreigners, but not Americans, could convert dollars to gold at $35 an ounce. Due to the excessive dollars being created, that system came to an end in 1971.

It's the post Bretton-Woods system that was responsible for globalizing inflation and markets and for generating a gigantic worldwide dollar bubble. That bubble is now bursting, and we're seeing what it's like to suffer the consequences of the many previous economic errors.

Ironically in these past 35 years, we have benefited from this very flawed system. Because the world accepted dollars as if they were gold, we only had to counterfeit more dollars, spend them overseas (indirectly encouraging our jobs to go overseas as well) and enjoy unearned prosperity. Those who took our dollars and gave us goods and services were only too anxious to loan those dollars back to us. This allowed us to export our inflation and delay the consequences we now are starting to see.

But it was never destined to last, and now we have to pay the piper. Our huge foreign debt must be paid or liquidated. Our entitlements are coming due just as the world has become more reluctant to hold dollars. The consequence of that decision is price inflation in this country--and that's what we are witnessing today. Already price inflation overseas is even higher than here at home as a consequence of foreign central banks' willingness to monetize our debt.

Printing dollars over long periods of time may not immediately push prices up--yet in time it always does. Now we're seeing catch-up for past inflating of the monetary supply. As bad as it is today with $4 a gallon gasoline, this is just the beginning. It's a gross distraction to hound away at “drill, drill, drill” as a solution to the dollar crisis and high gasoline prices. Its okay to let the market increase supplies and drill, but that issue is a gross distraction from the sins of deficits and Federal Reserve monetary shenanigans.

This bubble is different and bigger for another reason. The central banks of the world secretly collude to centrally plan the world economy. I'm convinced that agreements among central banks to “monetize” U.S. debt these past 15 years have existed, although secretly and out of the reach of any oversight of anyone--especially the U.S. Congress that doesn't care, or just flat doesn't understand. As this “gift” to us comes to an end, our problems worsen. The central banks and the various governments are very powerful, but eventually the markets overwhelm when the people who get stuck holding the bag (of bad dollars) catch on and spend the dollars into the economy with emotional zeal, thus igniting inflationary fever.

This time--since there are so many dollars and so many countries involved--the Fed has been able to “paper” over every approaching crisis for the past 15 years, especially with Alan Greenspan as Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, which has allowed the bubble to become history's greatest.

The mistakes made with excessive credit at artificially low rates are huge, and the market is demanding a correction. This involves excessive debt, misdirected investments, over-investments, and all the other problems caused by the government when spending the money they should never have had. Foreign militarism, welfare handouts and $80 trillion entitlement promises are all coming to an end. We don't have the money or the wealth-creating capacity to catch up and care for all the needs that now exist because we rejected the market economy, sound money, self reliance and the principles of liberty.

Since the correction of all this misallocation of resources is necessary and must come, one can look for some good that may come as this “Big Event” unfolds.

There are two choices that people can make. The one choice that is unavailable to us is to limp along with the status quo and prop up the system with more debt, inflation and lies. That won't happen.

One of the two choices, and the one chosen so often by government in the past is that of rejecting the principles of liberty and resorting to even bigger and more authoritarian government. Some argue that giving dictatorial powers to the President, just as we have allowed him to run the American empire, is what we should do. That's the great danger, and in this post-911 atmosphere, too many Americans are seeking safety over freedom. We have already lost too many of our personal liberties already. Real fear of economic collapse could prompt central planners to act to such a degree that the New Deal of the 30's might look like Jefferson 's Declaration of Independence.

The more the government is allowed to do in taking over and running the economy, the deeper the depression gets and the longer it lasts. That was the story of the 30s and the early 40s, and the same mistakes are likely to be made again if we do not wake up.

But the good news is that it need not be so bad if we do the right thing. I saw “Something Big” happening in the past 18 months on the campaign trail. I was encouraged that we are capable of waking up and doing the right thing. I have literally met thousands of high school and college kids who are quite willing to accept the challenge and responsibility of a free society and reject the cradle-to-grave welfare that is promised them by so many do-good politicians.

If more hear the message of liberty, more will join in this effort. The failure of our foreign policy, welfare system, and monetary policies and virtually all government solutions are so readily apparent, it doesn't take that much convincing. But the positive message of how freedom works and why it's possible is what is urgently needed.

One of the best parts of accepting self reliance in a free society is that true personal satisfaction with one's own life can be achieved. This doesn't happen when the government assumes the role of guardian, parent or provider, because it eliminates a sense of pride. But the real problem is the government can't provide the safety and economic security that it claims. The so called good that government claims it can deliver is always achieved at the expense of someone else's freedom. It's a failed system and the young people know it.

Restoring a free society doesn't eliminate the need to get our house in order and to pay for the extravagant spending. But the pain would not be long-lasting if we did the right things, and best of all the empire would have to end for financial reasons. Our wars would stop, the attack on civil liberties would cease, and prosperity would return. The choices are clear: it shouldn't be difficult, but the big event now unfolding gives us a great opportunity to reverse the tide and resume the truly great American Revolution started in 1776. Opportunity knocks in spite of the urgency and the dangers we face.

Let's make “Something Big Is Happening” be the discovery that freedom works and is popular and the big economic and political event we're witnessing is a blessing in disguise."

http://prwallstreet.com/article.cfm?articleID=19246

[cutthemdown]

Baja is going to love this. You just made him @@@ all over LABF.

[Taco John]

This is the same stuff Ron Paul was talking about when he launched his campaign last March. In fact, this is the whole reason he launched his campaign.

[Arkie]

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[orinjkrush]

i hope he's wrong. i fear he may be right.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Ron Paul is a real Debbie-Downer.... seems a bit harsh:
Same crap he's been spewing for two years, along with sh*t like the federal government is amassing foreign troops on our borders, 9-11 is a government conspiracy, etc...

[Rohirrim]

I still love much of what Ron Paul said, especially the part about bringing ALL of our troops home from all over the world and stop being the unilateralist imperial cowboy. There is much to Libertarian philosophy that is attractive. What I don't like is the simplistic government bashing and welfare bashing, as if these alone are the secret ills of the world.

Government can work and it has worked in the past. History has proved nothing is more powerful than the will of the people. I believe the message of the founders was that people should own the government, control the government and make it work for them. Obviously, the U.S. government no longer serves the interests, or the will, of the American people. Maybe Ron Paul is right. Maybe a consortium of dark lords in global banking star chambers run the world. I don't know. But, simply bashing the government (or the idea of government itself) leaves you no avenue down which to drive collective actions for the good of an entire society (say infrastructure), instead relying on the inherent good will of some mythical individualism (or market forces) that will solve all ills. And if we cut off all the avenues through which we can take collective action, what tools do we use to fight this specter of totalitarianism? Do we fight as individuals? Fat chance.

And the plain truth is that if we do not act as a society to care for the ill, the infirm, the poor, the ignorant and the destitute among us, guess what? Do you think some mythical family is going to do it? Some well meaning community? Some charitable individuals? Perhaps, in some cases. Perhaps not. Do we leave it in the hands of philosophy? If the past is any teacher, that concept leads to death carts rolling through the streets. Nothing is new under the sun. It's all been tried before under various names. It is not what lies in mankind's government that plagues him, it is what is in his heart.

I'm just tired of all voodoo philosophies; Invisible forces working for the common good. Greed is good. Individualism is the secret force. Market forces will sort out everything. Freedom works! All of them represent the abandonment of true consciousness, true responsibility and of rationalism itself. Here's the secret that has taken me years to understand: There may be a mythical force that has created the primordial order, but it operates on a scale that is far beyond the comprehension of any human being who, locked in some tiny capsule of time, can only perceive his own predicament, and little of that. The key is, if you don't make it happen, it doesn't happen. It is man who imposes order. It is man who charts a course, grips the wheel, and steers a destiny. For man to relinquish that duty in favor of invisible forces is to accept chaos. Reality is made of liquid. It invites you to shape it.

That's my two cents.

[ak1971]

chaos is your friend..

my two cents

[BroncoBuff]

That's my two cents.
killer post ... you're a rock star.

[Meck77]

The key is, if you don't make it happen, it doesn't happen.


Couldn't agree more. Too many people expect others to make things happen for them.

[TDmvp]

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/788/ronpaulmagooqd6.jpg


That is all ...

[ak1971]

Couldn't agree more. Too many people expect others to make things happen for them.

can you give me a dollar?

[Obushma]

Same crap he's been spewing for two years, along with sh*t like the federal government is amassing foreign troops on our borders, 9-11 is a government conspiracy, etc...

Can you please link me to a site, or upload one video, where Ron Paul says 9-11 is a goverment conspiracy?

[Earendil]

This is the same stuff Ron Paul was talking about when he launched his campaign last March. In fact, this is the whole reason he launched his campaign.
It's also why, even though I wouldn't vote for him despite growing up with him right next door in Galveston, I have tremendous respect for him. You can question his veracity, his judgment and occasionally even his sanity, but no one can doubt his commitment, and that's very rare in the world today, especially in politics.

I didn't read all of that but a lot of I didn't have to read because I already knew it. The praise for truly free markets and disdain for globalism is telling. The world paid a very high price in blood for the market reforms of the 20th Century, and for all the talk of "free" trade globalism as currently practiced is little more than an end run around those reforms. It's actually starting to turn back the clock to the days of Dickens as the developed Free World is forced to compromise cherished ideals to "compete on a level playing field" with nations where "freedom" and "equality" are sick jokes if they're even countenanced. I don't mind competing with Indian workers because they have a democratic system where the people can assert themselves, but shipping jobs to the only OTHER remaining Superpower, jobs filled by kidnapped and enslaved children or people sent to prison labor camps for missionary work, is just wrong. And stupid.

I've always agreed with Paul on the gold standard though, and all the talk about how "we don't have enough gold to redeem all the dollars!" is just that. The proof we can run a fractional reserve where we only have a tithe of the gold needed to redeem all circulated currency is that WE'RE STILL DOING IT! The difference is that the Fed and subsidiary banks maintain around 10% of their deposits as cash on hand in the form of cash that's worthless, instead of gold that has a fixed value.

And don't be confused, gold's value is static. There's a finite amount and we've pretty much found all of it, so the value isn't changing much; what fluctuates is the mercurial value of fiat currencies in relation to the static value of gold. The only way to stop that is to go back to a gold standard, and while it's never going to be $35/oz. the way it was for four decades, the sooner we stop the bleeding the better. One real advantage of Bretton Woods (and here Rep. Paul and I part company, I believe) is that it stabilized all currencies: They were pegged to the dollar, but the dollar was pegged to gold, so they had stability resting on its stability. And as Rep. Paul notes, when we jerked the rug out from under the dollar, we took all those other currencies down with us. It's no wonder the strongest currency today (the euro) is one that didn't exist then to suffer those consequences.

Meanwhile, I KNOW he's right about our habit of robbing Peter to pay Paul so we can live on credit indefinitely. We do that periodically and it works for about a decade before all the creditors show up at once and the economy implodes, while the systems defenders call it the same old boom-bust cycle. As long as we keep listening to them it will be the same old cycle, with the middle class diminishing more and more each time. The next time someone starts telling you great trickle down theory is, remind them how well it worked when Herbert Hoover invented it in 1930.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Can you please link me to a site, or upload one video, where Ron Paul says 9-11 is a goverment conspiracy?
I should have said he thinks the government investigation into 9-11 was a conspiracy of some sort. I always wondered where he got the idea the U.S. government was amassing foreign troops on our borders (loony tunes stuff).

[baja]

Baja is going to love this. You just made him @@@ all over LABF.

I have been saying this long before I ever heard of Ron Paul and long before LABF came to this what should be obvious to all understanding.

If you bother to read the whole article in has a very positive ending to it and that lays, as it always has, in the youth of American and the world.

There are many out there that are not fooled by the dead unsustainable systems that you subscribe to Cut Them Down.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I still love much of what Ron Paul said, especially the part about bringing ALL of our troops home from all over the world and stop being the unilateralist imperial cowboy. There is much to Libertarian philosophy that is attractive. What I don't like is the simplistic government bashing and welfare bashing, as if these alone are the secret ills of the world.

Government can work and it has worked in the past. History has proved nothing is more powerful than the will of the people. I believe the message of the founders was that people should own the government, control the government and make it work for them. Obviously, the U.S. government no longer serves the interests, or the will, of the American people. Maybe Ron Paul is right. Maybe a consortium of dark lords in global banking star chambers run the world. I don't know. But, simply bashing the government (or the idea of government itself) leaves you no avenue down which to drive collective actions for the good of an entire society (say infrastructure), instead relying on the inherent good will of some mythical individualism (or market forces) that will solve all ills. And if we cut off all the avenues through which we can take collective action, what tools do we use to fight this specter of totalitarianism? Do we fight as individuals? Fat chance.

And the plain truth is that if we do not act as a society to care for the ill, the infirm, the poor, the ignorant and the destitute among us, guess what? Do you think some mythical family is going to do it? Some well meaning community? Some charitable individuals? Perhaps, in some cases. Perhaps not. Do we leave it in the hands of philosophy? If the past is any teacher, that concept leads to death carts rolling through the streets. Nothing is new under the sun. It's all been tried before under various names. It is not what lies in mankind's government that plagues him, it is what is in his heart.

I'm just tired of all voodoo philosophies; Invisible forces working for the common good. Greed is good. Individualism is the secret force. Market forces will sort out everything. Freedom works! All of them represent the abandonment of true consciousness, true responsibility and of rationalism itself. Here's the secret that has taken me years to understand: There may be a mythical force that has created the primordial order, but it operates on a scale that is far beyond the comprehension of any human being who, locked in some tiny capsule of time, can only perceive his own predicament, and little of that. The key is, if you don't make it happen, it doesn't happen. It is man who imposes order. It is man who charts a course, grips the wheel, and steers a destiny. For man to relinquish that duty in favor of invisible forces is to accept chaos. Reality is made of liquid. It invites you to shape it.

That's my two cents.

Yep.

There isn't much that Paul says in the OP that's not right on the money, IMO.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I have been saying this long before I ever heard of Ron Paul and long before LABF came to this what should be obvious to all understanding.

If you bother to read the whole article in has a very positive ending to it and that lays, as it always has, in the youth of American and the world.

There are many out there that are not fooled by the dead unsustainable systems that you subscribe to Cut Them Down.

Cutthemdown has been too busy doing for Dubya what Monica did for Bill to notice what's happening in the world around him.

[Rohirrim]

I saw a very interesting thing in the news yesterday. Did you know that Exxon doesn't make the majority of its profit from drilling for oil? It makes the majority of its profit by churning its stock, doing massive buy-backs to jack up its stock prices and then skimming off the paper profit to enrich its officers and stockholders. It spends more on stock buy-backs than it does on exploration for new oil resources.

[Traveler]

I saw a very interesting thing in the news yesterday. Did you know that Exxon doesn't make the majority of its profit from drilling for oil? It makes the majority of its profit by churning its stock, doing massive buy-backs to jack up its stock prices and then skimming off the paper profit to enrich its officers and stockholders. It spends more on stock buy-backs than it does on exploration for new oil resources.

zowie! Now there's a shocker! (sarcasm)

[alkemical]

Ron Paul is working for the Illuminati. He's the one who is drawing out those who would be "opposition" to their plans.

[c_lazy_r]

Ron Paul is working for the Illuminati. He's the one who is drawing out those who would be "opposition" to their plans.

Do I sense sarcasm?

[alkemical]

Sometimes you get lucky and have useful idiots.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I saw a very interesting thing in the news yesterday. Did you know that Exxon doesn't make the majority of its profit from drilling for oil? It makes the majority of its profit by churning its stock, doing massive buy-backs to jack up its stock prices and then skimming off the paper profit to enrich its officers and stockholders. It spends more on stock buy-backs than it does on exploration for new oil resources.

Exactly.

And then the righties and those same stockholders blame the "enviro-whackos" for the "scarcity" problems.

[Arkie]

What if Ron Paul is correct in his assessment?

[Bronco_Beerslug]

What if Ron Paul is correct in his assessment?
The U.S. government is amassing foreign troops on our border?

[Bob]

Minus Iraq, I am almost lock step with him.

Two next things that will happen -- food prices will really soar -- we have not seen anything yet, sad to say. Also banks will start failing, and the feds will insure accounts up to 100,000, which will mean it will print ever more money ...

The only reason why people think it wont happen at this point is because they dont want it to, and just cant believe it -- just like some idiots on the Titanic, or those in 1928.

[Arkie]

The Dollar made its Lowest close in two months in yesterday’s session and was sitting barely a half a cent above an ALL TIME LOW in the USDX chart.

[Bob]

The Dollar made its Lowest close in two months in yesterday’s session and was sitting barely a half a cent above an ALL TIME LOW in the USDX chart.

Dont worry about it we can just print more to makeup teh difference...:clown:

[Arkie]

The fools in this world frustrate me.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Two next things that will happen -- food prices will really soar -- we have not seen anything yet, sad to say. Also banks will start failing, and the feds will insure accounts up to 100,000, which will mean it will print ever more money ...

The only reason why people think it wont happen at this point is because they dont want it to, and just cant believe it -- just like some idiots on the Titanic, or those in 1928.

The banks are already failing, food prices are soaring for a lot of people around the globe - it's just a question of how long before rising energy and food costs price the rest of us out of the market.

I was reading some article the other day about the number of $25K (and under) per year households in America and how gas prices which will boot them to the curb are not that far off. Pretty scary.

I guess the "free market" crusaders think all those people will just disappear into some economic black hole - never to be seen again.

Your Titanic and 1928 analogies are spot-on.

[BroncoBuff]

The fools in this world frustrate me.

Me too.

[BroncoBuff]

This is the same stuff Ron Paul was talking about when he launched his campaign last March. In fact, this is the whole reason he launched his campaign.
Yes, I see the consistency of policy and position ... it's just this alarmist "world chaos" "Big Events" warnings (below) that sound new.

I'm convinced the time is now upon us that some Big Events are about to occur. ... The world economy and political system will share in the chaos about to be unleashed.

If a congressman is willing to publicly predict throw out dire global "chaos" predictions, he should really give some SERIOUS specifics, at least nutshell specifics. And don't bother to say "he does," because he didn't do it in this address on the House floor. He took plenty of time to go on and on about the "pending chaos," but said next to nothing about the mechanics of how it will come about, or specific suggestions to avoid it.

[Obushma]

Yes, I see the consistency of policy and position ... it's just this alarmist "world chaos" "Big Events" warnings (below) that sound new.



If a congressman is willing to publicly predict throw out dire global "chaos" predictions, he should really give some SERIOUS specifics, at least nutshell specifics. And don't bother to say "he does," because he didn't do it in this address on the House floor. He took plenty of time to go on and on about the "pending chaos," but said next to nothing about the mechanics of how it will come about, or specific suggestions to avoid it.


He had 5 minutes, you expect him to explian how ****ed up our economy has become in five minutes? The man has been talking about this his whole political carreer. You just dont hear these ideas because the established political philosophy, doesnt believe in it.

[alkemical]

http://cryptogon.com/?p=3023

Plane Carrying Ron Paul, Six Other Congressmen Makes Emergency Landing
July 23rd, 2008

Via: CNN:

A plane carrying Texas Rep. Ron Paul and six other members of Congress was forced to make an emergency landing Tuesday due to mechanical issues.

According to the Federal Avaiation Administration (FAA), Continental Airlines flight 458, a Boeing 737 en route to Washington, DC from Houston made a rapid decent in New Orleans when the pilot reported pressurization problems.

Reps. Ted Poe, Nick Lampson, and Henry Cuellar, Solomon P. Ortiz, John Carter, and Ciro Rodriguez were among those aboard the flight. The FAA says the plane had a safe landing in New Orleans with no injuries.

Update: Trevor Kincaid, a spokesman for Rep. Nick Lampson, tells CNN the congressmen are being rebooked on two different flights from New Orleans to Washington, D.C.

Kincaid said Lampson told him, “there was a minor technical failure with the pressure” and there was “a slow gradual descent, no nosedive.” Lampson told him in a phone conversation that, “some people didn’t realize there was a problem until the gas masks came down.” Lampson said there was no panic on the plane and praised Continental Airlines for their handling of the situation

[c_lazy_r]

http://cryptogon.com/?p=3023

Plane Carrying Ron Paul, Six Other Congressmen Makes Emergency Landing
July 23rd, 2008

Via: CNN:

A plane carrying Texas Rep. Ron Paul and six other members of Congress was forced to make an emergency landing Tuesday due to mechanical issues.

According to the Federal Avaiation Administration (FAA), Continental Airlines flight 458, a Boeing 737 en route to Washington, DC from Houston made a rapid decent in New Orleans when the pilot reported pressurization problems.

Reps. Ted Poe, Nick Lampson, and Henry Cuellar, Solomon P. Ortiz, John Carter, and Ciro Rodriguez were among those aboard the flight. The FAA says the plane had a safe landing in New Orleans with no injuries.

Update: Trevor Kincaid, a spokesman for Rep. Nick Lampson, tells CNN the congressmen are being rebooked on two different flights from New Orleans to Washington, D.C.

Kincaid said Lampson told him, “there was a minor technical failure with the pressure” and there was “a slow gradual descent, no nosedive.” Lampson told him in a phone conversation that, “some people didn’t realize there was a problem until the gas masks came down.” Lampson said there was no panic on the plane and praised Continental Airlines for their handling of the situation


Anyone know if those other congressmen have the same political views as RP?

[alkemical]

Heh

Update: Trevor Kincaid, a spokesman for Rep. Nick Lampson, tells CNN the congressmen are being rebooked on two different flights from New Orleans to Washington, D.C.

[baja]

Minus Iraq, I am almost lock step with him.

Two next things that will happen -- food prices will really soar -- we have not seen anything yet, sad to say. Also banks will start failing, and the feds will insure accounts up to 100,000, which will mean it will print ever more money ...

The only reason why people think it wont happen at this point is because they dont want it to, and just cant believe it -- just like some idiots on the Titanic, or those in 1928.

I see I am starting to get some company on my lonely perch of reality.

Bob let's see if people will start ridiculing you as the did me or if we have entered the "no comment" stage from the general population.

[baja]

Want to know what is next after the two issues you mentioned Bob?

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Rule of Common Sense that would even apply to our military and our government: There is no need to buy a half a million coffins unless you expect half a million people to need burial.

The existence of the coffin depot in Georgia is not proof positive of anything except the existence of the coffin depot. However, with the other supporting data presented in the last Health Freedom eAlert blast on this topic, this piece of information forms a piece of a pattern which is well beyond chilling.

Weaponizing a virus is a great way to make sure you have a plague on your time line and for your reasons. But, as someone from India once wrote to me, "Are there enough trees on the planet to cremate 90% of humanity after they have died?"

No. There are not. So the ever-prudent US Government (think New Orleans, post Katrina) has decided to plan ahead and provide, at one depot, at least, half a million coffins.

Click here (http://www.prisonplanet.com/half-a-million-plastic-coffins.html) if you did not click on it at the start of this email to see where your mortal remains may go in the time of Avian Plague, if what I have written here is true. Pray God that I am mistaken and that General Bert's intellegence is also mistaken.

Now, if you, like me, cannot think of any other reason for a half million coffins, courtesy of Uncle Sam, read what I have written again (reprinted below) and start making preparations for your own protection in the coming plague, the one that inevitably has the word "inevitable" attached to it. At the end of this email are steps I urge, no I implore you, to take on your own behalf, for you and your loved ones.

By the way, do not forget to start, or enhance, a personal program of strong immune boosing with factors like vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, medicinal mushrooms, herbs and nano silver, organic (i.e., pesticide free, GMO-free) food, healthy fats and no refined sugar. Oh, yes, NO artificial sweeteners with the excpeption of organic Stevia (which can actually be good for you, exerts no impact on your blood sugar and has other positive qualities). The FDA has banned its used in beverages (although it is rumored that Coke will produce a soft drink sweetened with Stevia) but you can get it in health food stores in many forms. Buy the organic one!.

Having information is the key to being able to use that information protectively and productively. As it happens, Natural Solutions Foundation is launching a brand new service, allowing providers of healthy goods and services to let others know about them - creaing a Healthy Living eMall, if you like. What a good time to learn about healthy options! Watch for it soon: www.NaturalSolutionsMarketPlace.org

And don't forget the wonderful supply of organic supplements and supplies available on our other website, www.Organics4u.org.

If you are a merchant of healthy services and products, list them on our new MarketPlace, www.NaturalSolutionsMarketPlace.org. If you are not, buy these products and use them heavily.

And if you are a freedom lover, and love life as well, donate NOW to keep Natural Solutions Foundation up and running. Your recurring donations qualify you for membership in the new Health Freedom Heroes. Click here - http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=189 now to make that tax deductible donation.

"But I already gave to the Natural Soluitons Foundation!" you might say. Thank you! BUT now think seriously about giving again http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=189 AND getting your community and contacts involved, too. It's their life as well as yours, you know.

Our decision-makers may not know, may not care or may believe that they can weather the man-made storm below ground in vast bunkers and , who knows? Maybe they can. That is not the point. The point is your life and the lives of your loved ones which are potentially at stake in a game of geopolitical chicken. The one whose population is decimated first loses.

For Whom are You Fighting?

I have a 33 year old son who has a life in front of him. I love him so I am fighting for him and his unborn child as well as for you. For whom are you fighting? What is your life worth? What is theirs worth?

Time? Become an organizer in your own community. Contact Kathy.Greene@usa.net and let her know where you live, who you are and shat you plan to

Money? Give generously - http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=189 - to make sure there is someone there fighting for you.


Creativity? Send us your health freedom art and we'll post it on "The Art of Health Freedom" - http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/


Skills? If you are a PR person, or a web designer or an organic farmer, or a researcher or a secretary, or a lawyer, or whatever, we need your skills urgently. We need to be an army of highly skilled and organized capacity self-organizing in the face of little money.


We are all in this together or we are in our US-Government issue, regulation one-size fits all impermeable, plasticsnap top, 100 year guaranteed coffins.

It's your choice.

Oh, one more thing: if you think, as I did intially, "Nah! Those are just tubs, not coffins, check out this link (http://www.polyguardvaults.com/index.cfm?ID=9)

I have taken the unusual step of sending out our information for you to use and disseminate an unprecidented third time (see below). The reason is that it is of unprecedented importance and we are all so busy that we read and delete before disseminating a great deal of information. This is much too important information to lose it in cyberspace!.

I urge you to share this information with everyone you know.

Original Posting; Read on:


What I Have To Tell You Is Not Comfortable or Pretty.
But this Report Could Save Your Life,
Especially the Action Steps at the end of this Report & Video.

Dr.Laibow's Blog and Video Report on the Avian Flu Threat:
http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?p=742

What follows is my most recent report on the pandemic timeline and build up. If you have already read it and are following the story closely, now would be an excellent time to send out the email blast to your friends, associates and contacts and help make this store spread like a virus - but a beneificial one!

Let's start with a few quotes:

"The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable."
- H L Mencken

"No country and no people can be free and ignorant at the same time."
- Thomas Jefferson

"The only safe vaccine is the one that is never used."
- James Shannon
Former National Institutes of Health (NIH) Director

"I haven't got a flu shot and I don't intend to."
- George W. Bush
2004 Presidential Candidate

This Natural Solutions Intelligence Report
Could Save Your Life.

Or you can ignore it, but that choice might kill you. It's your choice. The tale which you need to hear is a long, complicated one, winding its way from China to France by way of the First World War, Rockefeller's Oil Cartel, Sanofi-Pasteur and Iraq to its final destination: A syringe full of something claiming to be a vaccine against the now-deadly Avian Flu imported from China and filled in a plant in the US. Filled with what? Nothing good. This is not a story to be told in a few brief paragraphs.

It is long and complicated but I urge you to read it and then to take the steps listed and please, SHARE THIS INFORMATION AS WIDELY AS POSSIBLE.

Avian Flu Has Apparently Already Been Weaponized

I'll give you the bottom line first: based on Gen. Stubblebine's careful analysis of the existing evidence, Avian Flu has already been turned into a pandemic virus with a lot of sophisticated help from people who are not your friends, but who are very good at weaponizing organisms, like the previously innocuous bird flu virus, H5N1.

There is a basic virological fact you need to know to make sense of what comes next: it is impossible to make a vaccine against a virus that does not yet exist. Public relations efforts to the contrary, IF a vaccine is being made against the Avian Flu virus in its pandemic form, that means that the pandemic virus already exists. Period. End of discussion. So that fact that the Avian Flu vaccine is already being manufactured in China by Sanofi-Pasteur, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the French arm of the Rockefeller oil cartel (Total Petroleum) is confirmation of what you are about to read. If you allow it to be introduced into your body, there is no reason to imagine it will be anything but an unmitigated disaster for your immune system and for you. We believe it's planned to be that way.

I do not know A. True Ott, PhD, but he was kind enough to send me a PDF file recently in which he puts a lot of the pieces together that I have been finding in my own research. Some of his conclusions I have serious difficulty with, but parts of his chronology are used here with appreciation.

Let's start with the basics: H5N1 is a benign, commonplace virus which most birds carry with no harm to themselves or humans. Humans also have viruses we have no problem with: these viral companions keep our immune systems healthy and humming. Only under the stimulus of novel and dangerous toxins which your body has no way to get rid of (detoxify), and stress which overwhelms your coping capacity, does an innocuous virus mutate and become something that can make you sick or kill you.

All human cases of H5N1 have occurred in areas of sick birds in large concentrations such as factory farms where handlers come into contact with stressed and sick birds in toxic surroundings where toxic residues are concentrated at high levels.

For example, in Vietnam, where thousands of gallons of Monsanto chemicals such as Agent Orange were dumped in huge amounts following the Vietnam war outbreaks of Avian Flu are not uncommon. These outbreaks occurred in highly toxic environments, where crowded, sick factory farm chickens have been inoculated [supposedly] against Avian Flu.

It will also become deadly, of course, when labs are employed to alter it so that it becomes an efficient weapon of mass destruction. The US has had a program to accomplish exactly that for over a century now, astounding as that may seem!

Our best intelligence estimate is that pandemic Avian Flu already exists. It appears to have been turned into a massive viral threat through bioengineering by the United States, fusing the deadly genome of the 1918 Pandemic, mis-named the "Spanish Flu", with the DNA of the H5N1 virus in a growth medium of human kidney cells to make sure that the virus recognizes human cells and knows how to invade them.

Please re-read that paragraph again and consider the threat that poses to you and your family.

The Spanish Pandemic Rides Again

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he Spanish Pandemic Rides Again

The genome of the 1918 pandemic so-called "Spanish Flu" was recently intentionally resurrected. Because of that resurrection, the Avian Flu, and its vaccine, are now a US government-instigated threat to life - your life.

The Spanish Flu, which was not Spanish at all, was created in the US through an early bioweapons program and injected into healthy young men (i.e., 'soldiers') as the first mandatory vaccination in the military during WWI (also known as the "War to End Wars" and the "Great War"). The "Spanish Flu", which originated in Kansas on US Military bases, killed about 50 million people world-wide including about 650,000 Americans. It was one of the deadliest pandemics in modern history. It was also one of the most successful biological weapons ever created.

Time Line To Disaster

This may be one of the most important chronologies you will ever read:

April 6, 1917:

* US declares war on Austria-Hungary, Bulgaria, Germany, and the Ottoman Empire.
* America swings into full production of War material.
* American men are drafted into military service and deployed for training in Spain
* ALL NEW RECRUITS ARE GIVEN MANDATORY VACCINATIONS --- One of which is a "broad-spectrum" live virus influenza vaccination
* Rockefeller makes millions in vaccine sales while consolidating Standard Oil contracts worldwide
* The first British soldiers committed to World War I are deployed to Iraq to protect American oil interests there
* Following mass vaccine injections, U.S. soldiers are crowded into troop ships and sent to "train" in Spain. Seasick, stressed soldiers aged 18-34 exhibit influenza symptoms on the voyage
* Immediately after arriving in Spain, U.S. soldiers are "trained", that is, exposed to, the various forms of gas they will experience in the trenches in France
* Exposure to these highly toxic gases causes the live-virus influenza organisms to mutate into an extremely lethal, and highly communicable, form of virus
* Millions of young, healthy men and women aged 18-34 die worldwide as a result of vaccinations combined with novel and highly toxic chemicals

November 11, 1918

* Armistice with Germany and its Allies

* Following the end of "The Great War" - The heads of the various multi-national banks met in conference at San Remo in 1924 to assess war reparations for Germany

* The Rockefellerd and the Rothschilds consolidated and vastly increased their wealth through actively funding both sides of the war

March 28, 1924

* Rockefeller formes a French oil conglomerate calling it "Total", the "French Company of Petroleums" aka CFP
* TOTAL is awarded a controlling interest via Deutsche Bank's stock in the Turkish Petroleum Company in Baghdad which was eventually renamed the Iraq Petroleum Company
* The Iraq Petroleum Company was confiscated and nationalized by Saddam Hussein in 1990.
* TOTAL Inc. is a true multi-national mega-corporation which operates in more than 130 countries and has over 110,000 employees.

Now the Avian Flu - Oil - China - US - WMD connection starts to get interesting.

Here's the Play: Oil to Drugs to Death

Two of TOTAL's prime, wholly-owned subsidiaries are the pharmaceutical giants Sanofi-Aventis, and Sanofi-Pasteur. Both are world-leaders in the development and testing of experimental vaccines, which are manufactured primarily in China. On March 23, 2005, NIH, through the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, announces the initiation of a program to develop a vaccine for Avian Flu, asserting that although there have only been less than a handful of cases, Avian Flu poses a vast public health menace.

http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/news/newsreleases/2005/avianfluvax.htm

And it is clearly true that a weaponized virus does present a massive threat to public health. That's the whole point of weaponizing it, isn't it? For a look at Sanofi-Pasteur's plans for its profit (and perhaps your death). You can confirm their plans here:

www.sanofi-aventis.com/Images/060706_IR_en_tcm23-13319.pdf

But please come back when you finish reading. The information below is critically important to you.

As a side note, the Chinese factories of these two pharmaceutical mammoths are (unlike Sanofi-Pasteur's Swiftwater, PA, factory, according to dissidents such as Harry Wu, et. al.) staffed in part or entirely by political and other prisoners working under brutal slave labor conditions. China has a long history of Western Pharmaceutical manufacture, according to Wikipedia.

Bear in mind that most influenza strains and their hosts adapt to each other after roughly two years, so that the same strain of flu no longer causes symptoms. Of course, once a strain has been weaponized, there is little reason to think that it will revert as natural strains do. It, or the vaccine it seems to legitimize, will go on killing and killing and killing. Or is the word "culling"?

To date, there have only been around 385 human cases identified worldwide (if those identifications are trustworthy, of course), with only 243 deaths. To put the absurdity of this effort into perspective, Sudden Cardiac Death (SCD), which researchers believe is heavily associated with aspartame consumption, is a leading cause of death which, according to the CDC, for example, killed 460,000 Americans in 1999 and the numbers keep rising - http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5106a3.htm. But Aspartame is not under the gun. Instead, Avian Flu is.

To quote Dr. Ott, "There are 6.7 Billion humans on planet earth. This equates to a statistical infection rate of .000000004215 percent. In other words, statistically speaking, you are over 100,000 times more likely to be hit by lightning in your home than to contract the "Bird Flu."

Given the shockingly obvious lack of a real threat from an unweaponized H5N1 virus, how can we explain the Bush Administration spending billions of dollars preparing each of the 50 States for what it drums into us is the "inevitable Bird Flu pandemic" anticipated to kill half or more of all Americans and similar numbers of people around the globe?

Back to the Time Line

March 1997:

* Zero confirmed "H5N1" human cases exist anywhere in the word
* The U.S. Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, Ft. Detrick, Rockville, Maryland, the US research center for biological weaponry, commissions Dr. Jeffery Taubenberger to lead a research team to ISOLATE the 1918 Flu Virus' genetic code, the most lethal pathogen in history

Aug. 24, 1997:

* Brevig, Alaska. Research Team member Johan Hultin sends well-preserved 1918 flu virus specimens (from a frozen body killed by the 1918 flu) to Dr. Taubenberger's lab in Maryland.
* Days later, Taubenberger detects the genetic fragments for which he has been searching.
* The 1918 virus' RNA-based gene fragments are analyzed by computer sequencing in order to reveal its complete genetic code. Even with a super-computer, this code sequencing will take years to complete.

October, 2003:

* Taubenberger's team finally deciphers the deadly 1918 flu virus' entire genetic code - completing a 6 year project.
* Taubenberger's colleague, R.G. Webster, publishes article in American Scientist Magazine declaring: "The world is teetering on the edge of a flu pandemic that could kill a large fraction of the human population".

October, 2004

* Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute declares that up to one billion people around the world could die during the next pandemic.

June, 2005:

* At Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York (alleged to be Rockefeller controlled), Taubenberger,Peter Palese and Adolfo Garcia-Sastro create plasmids, or DNA rings, from the 1918 killer virus, permanently "stabilizing" its genetic material for use as a biological weapon
* This is the final step in revitalizing the deadly pathogen but the press is told tit will only to be used as a "vaccination tool" - even though the disease is currently non-existent.

August, 2005:

* Taugenberger's team inserts plasmids into human kidney cells which then transfers human DNA into the virus making it "human specific"
* The 1918 virus, responsible for the death of millions around the world is now ready for use by humans

Sept. 9, 2005:

* The UN in New York City issues a world-wide press release introducing David Nabarro as the "UN System Senior Coordinator for Avian, Human Influenza".

Sept. 29, 2005:

* Nabarro issues an "Official U.N. Warning" that "an outbreak of 'avian influenza' would kill between 5 million and 150 million people on each continent."

Oct. 2005:

* Pres. Bush's newly appointed secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS, the parent organization of both the CDC and the FDA), former Utah Governor Mike O. Leavitt, intensifies multibillion Pandemic Bird Flu preparations

Dec. 2005:

* Bush solicits Congress for $7.1 Billion to fund "preparations" --- $3.3 billion is immediately allocated to Leavitt's HHS

January 24, 2006

* Department of Homeland Security awards KBR, a Halliburton subsidiary, a $385 million contract for US detention centers

Jan. 2006:

* Leavitt launches website - www.pandemicflu.gov - on which he says: "Let me be clear. It is only a matter of time before we discover H5N1 in America. The migration patterns of the wild fowl that carry the virus makes it appearance here almost inevitable!"

* China hosts the "International Pledging Conference on Avian and Human Influenza" in Beijing and is promised massive sums of money from the west --- Leavitt alone commits $334 million in funds to aid China's research into "vaccine development".
* Leavitt has a long history of fostering Chinese trade activities as Utah's Governor

March 2006:

* Breaking new ground, Leavitt's HHS allocates funds to a private television network to produce a "made-for-TV" movie about the "bird flu"
* Leavitt jokes that he wants "the handsomest actor" to play his character

* Leavitt declares on HHS website (exactly as John D. Rockefeller declared in 1916): "The best defense against influenza is VACCINATION."
* Leavitt further declares: "The current U.S. capacity for manufacturing egg-based vaccines is not sufficient to supply our entire population. HHS is supporting research into [human kidney] cell-based vaccine manufacture of producing vaccine domestically

April, 2006:

* HHS announces a $97 million contract for the development of cell-based flu vaccine.
* Leavitt declares: "The FDA can use its Emergency Use Authorization authority to permit the use of unapproved products if there's a reasonable belief the products may be effective."
* 32 states pass laws which make resisting inoculation once ordered by the governor a felony.
* These laws join Patriot Act I, II, BARDA, BIOSHIELD I, II in making drug treatment and innoculation mandatory once a Pandemic is called.
* Unlimited quarantine without review is mandated under these laws for those who resist innoculation under Pandemic conditions.
* Fully staffed, empty detention centers exist all over North America. The largest, in Alasks, is roumored to have a 2.5 million person capacity.

December, 2006

* New York Times reports Gulf War Syndrome positively linked to vaccination of Veterans.
* More than 100,000 vets contracted the syndrome during the 1991 Desert Storm Operation.
* More than 20,000 vets have died to date from this syndrome believed to be triggered by squalene, a vaccine "adjutant."
* All modern vaccines contain squalene

April 17, 2007:

* The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) branch of HHS utilizes its Emergency Use Authorization authority and awards a license to produce H5N1 "Bird Flu" vaccines to Sanofi-Pasteur.

* FDA Bird Flu approval letter states:

"We have approved your Biologics License Application (BLA) for Influenza Virus Vaccine, H5N1, effective this date. You are hereby authorized to introduce or deliver for introduction into interstate commerce, Influenza Virus Vaccine, H5N1, under your existing Department of Health and Human Services U.S. License No. 1725; however, we acknowledge your statement provided in your submission of April 5, 2007, that Sanofi Pasteur Inc. does not intend to license this product for commercial distribution, since it was produced under contract to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services as part of national pandemic preparedness initiatives. Influenza Virus Vaccine, H5N1, is indicated for active immunization of persons 18 through 64 years of age at increased risk of exposure to the H5N1 influenza virus subtype contained in the vaccine."

* Among the required post-market studies on this untested vaccine are;

1. Protocol submission: Study DMID 04-077: "A randomized, double-blinded, phase I/II, study of the safety, reactogenicity, and immunogenicity of intramuscular inactivated influenza A/H5N1 vaccine in healthy children aged 2 years through 9 years."
2. Final study report submission: September 30, 2008.Study DMID 04-076: "A randomized double-blinded, placebo-controlled, phase I/II, dose-ranging study of the safety, reactogenicity, and immunogenicity of intramuscular inactivated influenza A/H5N1 vaccine in healthy elderly adults."
3. Study DMID 05-0043: "Revaccination of healthy subjects with intramuscular inactivated subunit influenza A/Vietnam/1203/2004 (H5N1) vaccine representing a drifted variant.
4. "Study DMID 05-0090: "Evaluation of a booster dose of A/Vietnam/1203/04 (H5N1) vaccine administered at 6 months to healthy adult subjects after a two dose schedule at 0 and 1 month."
5. Study DMID 05-0129: "Open label evaluation of H5N1 vaccine at vaccine manufacturing facilities."
6. Study DMID 05-0130: "A single center, open label, phase I/II study of the safety and immunogenicity of two 90 µg doses of intramuscular inactivated influenza A/H5N1 vaccine in healthy adult subjects."

Nov. 26, 2007:

* Leavitt's HHS orders 100 million H5N1 "vaccines [doses]" from Sanofi-Pasteur. Expected delivery date, August, 2008.
* Sanofi-Pasteur issues a press release announcing their lucrative HHS contract (100 million vaccines @ $15 USD each) and declares that the cell-based vaccine will be mass produced in the company's CHINA facility - then shipped to Stillwater, PA for hypodermic syringe-friendly packaging.
* Approval and contract have all been consummated in the absence of official human testing.

Jan. 2008:

* Covert 'human trials' of Sanofi-Pasteur H5N1 vaccine is conducted on 350 homeless vagrants in Poland.
* According to London Telegraph and Examiner articles, this results in 21 "instant" deaths and over 200 severely incapacitated or hospitalized." Development and sales of H5N1 vaccine continues.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/2235676/Homeless-people-die-after-bird-flu-vaccine-trial-in-Poland.html

February 14, 2008

* U.S. Air Force Gen. Gene Renuart, commander of North American Aerospace Defense Command and U.S. Northern Command, and Canadian Air Force Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, commander of Canada Command, sign a Civil Assistance Plan that allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency.
* "Our commands were created by our respective governments to respond to the defense and security challenges of the twenty-first century, and we both realize that these and other challenges are best met through cooperation between friends.... The plan facilitates the military-to-military support of civil authorities once government authorities have agreed on an appropriate response."
* Avian Flu response is a part of NorthCom's mission, and according to Gen. Stubblebine's analysis, appears to be the primary element in its mission: http://www.northcom.mil/Avian%20Flu/index.html


June 17, 2008

* Dr. David Nabarro, UN Influenza Coordinator, welcomes a donation of 60 million doses of H5N1 Avian Flu vaccine by Sanofi-Pasteur.
* This adds to the stockpile of a previous donation of 30 million doses by GlaxoSmithKline Dr. Nabarro said that good progress had been made but Avian Flu could still kill as many of 150 million people.
* Avian Flu still entrenched in Viet Nam, Bangladesh, India, Egypt and India [sic] says Dr. Nabarro.
* Outbreaks recorded in 60 more countries according to US Influenza Coordinator.

But the people who make vaccines are ethical and look out for our best interests don't they? The cold, hard fact is that vaccine makers are neither ethical nor concerned with health and longevity of their recipients.

Remember: vaccination remains an uninurable risk: no parent, physician or pharmaceutical company can buy insurance against vaccine induced harm. The insurance industry refuses to accept the risk. That's why Congress created the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program that is funded by a special tax added to the cost of each vaccine shot: we pay to protect pharmaceutical company profits.

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Vaccines can be used for a great deal more than just for what it says on the label. After all, faced with a syringe of fluid, who is to say exactly what is in there and what the intended, or unintended outcomes of being injected will be?

It takes a huge amount of faith to allow a hypodermic under your skin. That faith is, the Natural Solutions Foundation believes, without significant basis.

Shielded by the FDA, vaccine (and drug) manufacturers are immune from prosecution for wrong doing and continue to do wrong with horrifying impunity. That's even BEFORE the Avian Flu weaponization and subsequent vaccine development. A few examples out of many, many will suffice:

April, 1930

* Eli Lilly, makers of Thimerisol, inject the product into 22 people with meningitis who all die. Lilly publishes the "study", claiming that Thimerisol, 50% mercury by weight, is safe.

1972:

* World Health Organization (WHO) Bulletin No.47 refers to creation of an immune virus and suggests that a useful way to study the effects would be "to put it into a vaccination program and observe the results."
* It is theorized that WHO used the smallpox vaccination program in Central Africa for this study, since the spread of HIV infection coincides precisely with the most intense and recent smallpox vaccination campaigns.
* Information on the Central African countries most infected with HIV precisely matches WHO figures indicating the number of people vaccinated in these areas.
* The virus requested would selectively destroy the T-cell system. (1972 Federation Proceedings of WHO).

1974

* Henry Kissenger writes a classified "National Security Study Memorandium 2000: Implications of worldwide population growth for U.S. security and overseas interest (NSSM 200)" which identifies India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nigeria, Mexico, Indonesia, Brazil, the Philippines, thailand, Egypt, Turkey, Ethiopia and Columbia as targets for initial population reduction.
* The Philippine Supreme Court found that 3 million Philippinas between 12 and 45 years of age were given this vaccine.
* Native American Woman and Black women in the US received this vaccine.
* Sterility rates in Native American Women in the US is over 35%.
* Sterility rates in Black Women in the US is over 25%.

December 1976

* No epidemic of Swine flu surfaces despite rapid approval and respone to perceived threat following 1 death of a solder at Ft. Dix, NJ.
* Swine Flu inoculation program shut down after risk of death and polio like syndrome from the vaccination is found to be almost 12 times greater in vaccinated than unvaccinated people. 5% of people afflicted die, 10% are crippled or maimed for life.

http://www.haverford.edu/biology/edwards/disease/viral_essays/warnervirus.htm

May 1987:

* The Times of London reported on its front page that smallpox vaccine administered by the World Health organization had triggered HIV/AIDS.
* 100 Million vaccinated Africans are at risk.
* Areas with highest vaccination rate show highest HIV/AIDS rates.
* Robert Gallo, discoverer of the HIV/AIDS virus, defends those figures and says, "AIDS researchers will keep their mouths shut because they are paid to do so."

November 28, 2002

* A rider tacked onto the end of the Homeland Security Bill confers immunity from liability prosecution on Eli Lilly and other manufacturers of vaccines.

June 1990:

* Court case reveals that babies in Los Angeles were used as human guinea pigs with a experimental measles vaccine called Edmonston Zagreb high titer measles vaccine (E-Z ). From 1989-1991, Kaiser Permanente and LA County Dep't of Health and CDC injected 700+ "mostly minority" babies with unlicensed experimental vaccines with fraudulently-obtained parental consent.
* E-Z is closely associated with increased death rate in infant girls in Sendgal, Guneau Bisseau, and Haiti before their second birthday.
* Most of the families are not aware to date that their child was used as a human guinea pi

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March 19, 1992

* Dr. David Heymann, head of the office of research for the World Health Organization's Global Programme on AIDS, and Harvard pathology professor William Haseltine refuse to discuss the possibility of AIDS transmission via vaccines.
* Dr. Heymann states in a phone interview from Geneva, "The origin of the AIDS virus is of no importance to science today. Any speculation on how it arose is of no importance." Haseltine is even more adamant. "It's distracting, it's nonproductive, it's confusing to the public, and I think it's grossly misleading in terms of getting to the solution of the problem. It's over, it's done with, it's very, very, very unlikely it happened that way, and it's another nonsense article. It's the worst kind of reporting as far as I'm concerned."

World Health Organization (WHO)
Uses Vaccines to Make Women Sterile

1972:

* WHO begins its "Special Programme" in human reproduction with programs for both male fertility control through vaccines and female fertility control

1985

* WHO Vaccines for smallpox and tetanus are laced with female reproductive hormones to induce permanent sterility to "eliminate 150 million excess Sub-Saharan Africans" according to WHO documents.

July, 1989

* After years of denial, a scientific paper demonstrates conclusively that WHO tetanus vaccines used in the Philipines contained female reproductive hormones, inducing permanent sterility without consent or knowledge of the women treated.
* Tetanus toxoid is linked to the human reproductive hormone to overcome immunological tolerance to the hormone and prod the body of the woman into producing antibodies to her own reproductive hormones.

1990

* Women between the ages of 12 and 45 are targeted for a 5 injection series of "tetanus" shots.
* Boys, men, children and older women are not given the shots.
* Tetanus ordinarily requires a single booster every 10 years.
* The 5 shot tetanus protocol is used with vaccines which contained female reproductive hormones to render the women of Tanzania, Nigeria, Nicaragua, Mexico and other countries infertile
* Oxford University Press publishes article titled "Bypass by an alternate carrier of acquired unresponsiveness to hCG upon repeated immunizations with tetanus-conjugate vaccine' confirming method of inducing sterility requires multiple vaccinations.

1993:

* WHO committees more than $356 million on "reproductive health" research.
* Funding for abortificant (abortion producing) vaccine comes from many sources.

1. $90+ million contributed by Sweden
2. $52+ million contributed by Great Britain
3. $41 million contributed by Norway
4. $27 million contributed by Denmark
5. $12 million contributed by Germany
6. $5.7 million contributed by US
7. $61 million contributed by UNFPA
8. $15.5 million contributed by World Bank
9. $2.5 million contributed by Rockefeller Foundation
10. $1+ million contributed by Ford Foundation
11. $716.5 thousand contributed by IDRC (International Research and Development Centre of Canada)

April 2000

* Observer Newspaper reports Glaxo, Pfizer, Squibb and Genentec experimented on children at Incarnation Children's Center, NY.
* Incarnation Children's Center is run by Columbia University which was paid to experiment on children, mostly wards of the state minority children.
* Babies as young as 6 months were injected with double doses of experimental measles vaccine.
* Children as young as 4 were given multi-drug cocktails.
* More than 100 orphans and babies were used in 36 experiments.

March 2008

* Haruna Kaita, a pharmaceutical scientists and head of a Nigerian University analyzed the latest WHO vaccine in Indian labs.
* Sterility agents were among the contaminants found in the samples.
* According to the local population of the Akha, a Thai hill tribe, pregnant women are forced to receive the vaccine in order to get ID cards for their children.
* Violent still births and miscarriages result.


ACTION STEPS

I Told You It Was A Long Story, But One You Needed to Hear.
Now What Can You Do To Protect Yourself and Your Loved Ones?

First of all, remember that you have an immune system.

Back at the beginning of this article I told you that viruses (and bacteria, for that matter), do not make you sick if you are equipped with a healthy immune system and you are non toxic.

That means change your eating habits TODAY. The intake of refined sugar, pesticides, fluoridated water and toothpastes, etc., artificial colors, flavors and preservatives and genetically modified foods (found in everything that does not explicitly say "Certified Organic") all depress your immune system.

Buy "Organic", wild crafted, food that is locally grown by people you know (and don't assume that just because a field is nearby, the food is not sprayed or genetically modified or both). ASK!

So Step One is to alter your diet and make eating for life, not for the moment, your number one food priority. Please, take this seriously.

Step Two is to harvest and cultivate information. When the Pandemic is about to be released (and, God willing, it will never be), there will be increased propaganda rumblings to "prepare" you to submit to the schemes for control and inoculation. Stay in touch with your local community advanced health care advocates (including NSF local organizers, alternative practitioners, health store and food co-ops, etc)... keep your eyes and ears opened and let us know if you come across any information that may help us all.

The Natural Solutions Foundation gets information from all over the world. Our friends are inside of corporations and outside of them, inside of governments and outside of them, inside of news media and outside of them. We hear things early and we WILL let you know what we are hearing as soon as we hear it.

That means that you need to open our emails when you get them and at least skim them. It also means that you should share the fact that there are free Health Freedom eAlerts for which other people need to be watching, as well. They need to be on the list so they can have early warning as well. Send everyone you know this link

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and ask them to join the free distribution list. It's very good insurance: it costs nothing but can save lives.

There are two other lists you need to join to stay informed and empowered. The first is our powerful and vibrant No-Forced-Vaccines Yahoo Forum at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/no-forced-vaccination/join

The second list is about GM "foods". Check out Natural Solutions Foundation's Trustee Ralph Fucetola's most recent blog on the topic,

http://vitaminlawyerhealthfreedom.blogspot.com/2008/07/five-action-steps-to-protect-from-gmos.html

Organic foods may be expensive: pandemic diseases and cancer are a lot more expensive. So is forced sterility. So are lethal allergies.

Since Genetically Modified "food" is so omnipresent in the food supply and so very dangerous, find out what you can do about it, and how to avoid it, by joining the Natural Solutions Foundation No GMO Yahoo!Group:

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Step Three is to develop your "exit strategy." Once the Pandemic drums start beating, it is time to get out of the US until the insanity is past. Where to go? That is a matter of personal decision. If you do not have a passport, you cannot go anywhere. Get one.

If you do not have a plan, you will not go anywhere. Make one.

Come visit us in Panama, for example, in the lovely Valley of the Moon. Go to some place sane and stay there with your kids while this insanity swirls around. No one knows what the vaccines will contain or what they will do. If you want to play roulette with the intent of the vaccine makers, that is your choice. I have my passport in hand and I will use it. I hope you will, too.

The Valley of the Moon: http://www.naturalsolutionsfoundation.org

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[alkemical]

jesus christ!!!

[BroncoBuff]

He had 5 minutes, you expect him to explian how ****ed up our economy has become in five minutes? The man has been talking about this his whole political carreer. You just dont hear these ideas because the established political philosophy, doesnt believe in it.
That excuse doesn't fly. In the first place, five minutes is PLENTY of time to get specific ... but all he does is say "we screwed up" and "we're screwed" ... just in numerous different ways. No specifics, virtually none anyway. Naming names and naming problems with specificity would've been statesmanlike, but that's just circular whining and 'sky-is-falling' nonsense.

The sky MIGHT be falling, but I've been hearing people warn about such calamities for thirty years ... why is now all that much different?

[Obushma]

Here is a blog he put out on Monday.

http://www.house.gov/htbin/blog_inc?BLOG,tx14_paul,blog,999,All,Item%20not%20 found,ID=080721_2234,TEMPLATE=postingdetail.shtml

Most people dont really understand how our economy works, or what backs the dollar.

He also does a web cam blog after most sessions in congress. You can see those blogs at http://www.house.gov/paul/ on the top right of the page. Has a lot of information on his feelings as to whats going on.

[cutthemdown]

Sigh

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Here is a blog he put out on Monday.

http://www.house.gov/htbin/blog_inc?BLOG,tx14_paul,blog,999,All,Item%20not%20 found,ID=080721_2234,TEMPLATE=postingdetail.shtml

Most people dont really understand how our economy works, or what backs the dollar.

He also does a web cam blog after most sessions in congress. You can see those blogs at http://www.house.gov/paul/ on the top right of the page. Has a lot of information on his feelings as to whats going on.There are still people listening to this crackpot?

[baja]

Here is a blog he put out on Monday.

http://www.house.gov/htbin/blog_inc?BLOG,tx14_paul,blog,999,All,Item%20not%20 found,ID=080721_2234,TEMPLATE=postingdetail.shtml

Most people dont really understand how our economy works, or what backs the dollar.

He also does a web cam blog after most sessions in congress. You can see those blogs at http://www.house.gov/paul/ on the top right of the page. Has a lot of information on his feelings as to whats going on.

This is why our founding fathers considered, but decidedly rejected the creation of a national central bank. They understood that governments, even the best of governments, cannot control spending. Even the current administration, which promised strict fiscal responsibility, has had to increase the national debt limit by 65 percent to keep up with its spending sprees. <b> Every dollar created and spent by government makes the dollars in your pocket worth less and less. Eventually any currency controlled by government will be debased to worthlessness, and will wipe out the savings of the citizens who put faith in that currency. </b>

[mhgaffney]

I agree with Baja - - the present crisis has been developing for a very long time.

One thing I have noticed about Ron Paul. He never exaggerates. If anything he tends to understate the situation. Indeed, in his recent statement to Congress he even acknowledged this. So, if anything, the situation is WORSE than his estimation.

We are in the crisis of world civilization --and whether we survive or go the way of the DoDo is about to be decided.

No doubt, every intelligent life form across the universe must go through a similar trial. Those intelligent species who cannot learn to live in peace and harmony -- within the ecological limits of their planet imposed by nature -- must invariably self destruct.

Probably only one in ten make it. Will we?

This is the question.

If we could only harness a fraction of the wasted energy on this board -- we could probably solve at least a few of the problems. But with the population of retards and knee jerks in here I'd say our chances are slim.

Still, hope is for those without hope.

MHG

[baja]

I agree with Baja - - the present crisis has been developing for a very long time.

One thing I have noticed about Ron Paul. He never exaggerates. If anything he tends to understate the situation. Indeed, in his recent statement to Congress he even acknowledged this. So, if anything, the situation is WORSE than his estimation.

We are in the crisis of world civilization --and whether we survive or go the way of the DoDo is about to be decided.

No doubt, every intelligent life form across the universe must go through a similar trial. Those intelligent species who cannot learn to live in peace and harmony -- within the ecological limits of their planet imposed by nature -- must invariably self destruct.

Probably only one in ten make it. Will we?

This is the question.

If we could only harness a fraction of the wasted energy on this board -- we could probably solve at least a few of the problems. But with the population of retards and knee jerks in here I'd say our chances are slim.

Still, hope is for those without hope.

MHG

Watch this mark - there is hope;

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6030443037963555139

[Maximus]

What if Ron Paul is correct in his assessment?

Ron Paul hasn't been wrong about anything... I'm serious!

[Bob]

The banks are already failing, food prices are soaring for a lot of people around the globe - it's just a question of how long before rising energy and food costs price the rest of us out of the market.

I was reading some article the other day about the number of $25K (and under) per year households in America and how gas prices which will boot them to the curb are not that far off. Pretty scary.

I guess the "free market" crusaders think all those people will just disappear into some economic black hole - never to be seen again.

Your Titanic and 1928 analogies are spot-on.

Thanks, just not sure what teh government will do when it does get really bad -- my guess is that it grows, and trys to fix everything, and by so doing creates more problems than it fixes. Hitler came to power in large measure because people were very scared --we were willing to give up much after 911, buit think how much we will be willing to give up if many are hungry? The blame game is going to get nasty.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Ron Paul hasn't been wrong about anything... I'm serious!Really? This crackpot is a lunatic!

http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/media.canada.com/e028eb9a-84d6-4def-93db-73f7261fb08f/ronpaul-o-rama.jpg?size=l

Republican Congressman Ron Paul (http://www.google.com/search?q=ron+paul+foreign+troops&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)recently appeared on nationally syndicated radio and again reiterated his deep concern that foreign troops are mobilizing outside and inside America to be used as assets in a martial law takeover by the Bush administration.

"It's a horrible precedent and it's all part of the NAFTA scheme and globalization and world government," Paul told the Alex Jones Show.


The John Birch Society has some supporters in Congress. Ron Paul of Texas recently argued: (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKbirchS.htm)"The beneficial, educational impact of the John Birch Society over the past four decades would be hard to overestimate. It is certainly far more than most people realize. Anyone who has been in the trenches over the years battling on any of the major issues - whether it’s pro-life, gun rights, property rights, taxes, government spending, regulation, national security, privacy, national sovereignty, the United Nations, foreign aid - knows that members of the John Birch Society are always in there doing the heavy lifting. And most importantly, they approach all of these issues from a strong moral and constitutional perspective. Lots of people pay lip service to the Constitution, but Birchers study it, understand it, apply it, and are serious about protecting it and holding public officials accountable to it."

The Freedom Report's online archives (http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720-ac15-4532a7da84ca) only go back to 1999, but I was curious to see older editions of Paul's newsletters, in part because of a controversy dating to 1996, when Charles "Lefty" Morris, a Democrat running against Paul for a House seat, released excerpts stating that "opinion polls consistently show only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions," that "if you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be," and that black representative Barbara Jordan is "the archetypical half-educated victimologist" whose "race and sex protect her from criticism." At the time, Paul's campaign said that Morris had quoted the newsletter out of context. Later, in 2001, Paul would claim that someone else had written the controversial passages. (Few of the newsletters contain actual bylines.) Caldwell, writing in the Times Magazine last year, said he found Paul's explanation believable, "since the style diverges widely from his own."

Finding the pre-1999 newsletters was no easy task, but I was able to track many of them down at the libraries of the University of Kansas and the Wisconsin Historical Society. Of course, with few bylines, it is difficult to know whether any particular article was written by Paul himself. Some of the earlier newsletters are signed by him, though the vast majority of the editions I saw contain no bylines at all. Complicating matters, many of the unbylined newsletters were written in the first person, implying that Paul was the author.

But, whoever actually wrote them, the newsletters I saw all had one thing in common: They were published under a banner containing Paul's name, and the articles (except for one special edition of a newsletter that contained the byline of another writer) seem designed to create the impression that they were written by him--and reflected his views. What they reveal are decades worth of obsession with conspiracies, sympathy for the right-wing militia movement, and deeply held bigotry against blacks, Jews, and gays. In short, they suggest that Ron Paul is not the plain-speaking antiwar activist his supporters believe they are backing--but rather a member in good standing of some of the oldest and ugliest traditions in American politics.

[W*GS]

Sigh. The same flakes flogging the same folderol.

Why don't you guys get together and move someplace far, far away so you can survive the End Times?

Sheesh - whadda bunch o' morons...

[Arkie]

We are mirroring the Weimar Republic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Republic)

[W*GS]

No, we are not, Arkie.

You're just another lunatic.

If anything shows that the OM is far from representative of the US population, it's that the percentage of doomsters, loonies, paranoids, and conspiracy-under-every-bed folks here is far far far far far higher. Less than 1% of the US population believes in all the crap more than a few OMers believe in.

This board has become infested with these dorks, which is pathetic. Anywhere else, idiots like Alex Jones get (rightfully) laughed at; here, he's a freakin' messiah.

Gods, you guys take the cake.

[Spider]

No, we are not, Arkie.

You're just another lunatic.

If anything shows that the OM is far from representative of the US population, it's that the percentage of doomsters, loonies, paranoids, and conspiracy-under-every-bed folks here is far far far far far higher. Less than 1% of the US population believes in all the crap more than a few OMers believe in.

This board has become infested with these dorks, which is pathetic. Anywhere else, idiots like Alex Jones get (rightfully) laughed at; here, he's a freakin' messiah.

Gods, you guys take the cake.

Don let the door hit you in the ass on the way out .......... No one is forcing you to stay here ...........

[kappys]

No, we are not, Arkie.

You're just another lunatic.

If anything shows that the OM is far from representative of the US population, it's that the percentage of doomsters, loonies, paranoids, and conspiracy-under-every-bed folks here is far far far far far higher. Less than 1% of the US population believes in all the crap more than a few OMers believe in.

This board has become infested with these dorks, which is pathetic. Anywhere else, idiots like Alex Jones get (rightfully) laughed at; here, he's a freakin' messiah.

Gods, you guys take the cake.


The one thing that makes me laugh is that these conspiracy guys are "prepared" for when the apocalypse hits as if they can fend themselves off from the hordes of roving zombie-men ready to eat their flesh.

[Rohirrim]

Everybody should read Cormac McCarthy's The Road.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

The one thing that makes me laugh is that these conspiracy guys are "prepared" for when the apocalypse hits as if they can fend themselves off from the hordes of roving zombie-men ready to eat their flesh.

LOL

That's good stuff!!

[alkemical]

Well - i wish Ron Paul would be more specific when he says forces. I don't see it as "forces" as troops. But with things like Blackwater taking over for stuff on the war on drugs, it's sort of like the telecom/fisa bill:

It's done to skirt the constitution.

So while i don't think it's armies on the boarder - i do think there are groups abroad, and internally whom are a threat to the US sovereignty that we know.

[alkemical]

http://www.wunderkabinett.co.uk/damndata/index.php?/archives/1545-Illuminati-Mission-Failed.html

Illuminati "Mission Failed"

Clearly sinister secret societies rarely reveal their workings to we mere mortals but sometimes something goes wrong and we get a glimpse at the clandestine inner workings of their megalomaniac plots to rule the world.

We have already seen the accidental revealing of Fred Engel, King of the German Illuminati and an Asian group dedicated to their downfall. Now we stumble across a story that starts of like an amusing burglary-gone-wrong tale, with a someone trying to break into the Knoxville Museum of art but getting stuck in a duct, before boldly heading off into some very odd territory:

it's what he said next--"Mission failed"--that would launch a tale of intrigue.

With help from the Knoxville Fire Department, officers pulled Smith from the air duct without injury. Then they asked him what he was doing.

A police report indicates Smith said he was a "special agent with the United States Illuminati, badge number 0931."

His mission?

One from "Director Womack," to "defuse and confiscate a Soviet-made MERV6SS-22AN warhead, with 14.5 kg of enriched uranium and a plutonium trigger, capable of delivering a 40-kiloton yield."

Police say Smith believed the device was concealed in a blue, plastic cow sculpture in the basement of the museum.

...

The police report indicates Smith said he "rappelled onto the roof from a CH2 Huey," but police believe he stood on an ash tray to get onto the stepped-design portion of the roof.


The ultimate irony is that he was in the wrong museum!!

he got a phone call from his "agency" while in the air duct, saying they had made a mistake, as the bomb is supposed to be hidden in a museum in Memphis.


I do hope the local authorities took this seriously and dispatched someone to the other museum.

Source


Are the Illuminati behind the credit crunch?

Is this part of a broader plot? I knew it had to happen

At this time, it is important to remember that an Illuminati defector known as "Svali" said she was taught that the "end of the world" scenario involved an economic collapse. Remember the Illuminati is a Masonic cult founded and funded by the central bankers who own the Fed. Here is her full testimony given about ten year ago.

"Want to hear the end of the world scenario the Illuminati taught me? It was cult propaganda, but this is how they believed the New Order would be ushered in:

There will be continued conflict in the Mideast, with a severe threat of nuclear war being the culmination of these hostilities. An economic collapse that will devastate the economy of the US and Europe, much like the great depression.

One reason that our economy continues limping along is the artificial supports that the Federal Reserve had given it, manipulating interest rates, etc. But one day, this won't work (or this leverage will be withdrawn on purpose) and the next great depression will hit.

The government will call in its bonds and loans, and credit card debts will be called in. There will be massive bankruptcies nationwide. Europe will stabilize first,and Germany, France and England (surprise) will have the strongest economies, and will institute through the UN an international currency.


Those devils!! And the really cunning bit of their vile plan is that they revealed their secrets in a suitably vague way that could easily be fitted to future globally happenings whether or not they had a hand in them!!

Source

Ron Paul has also been muttering about "secret governments":

The interesting thing is that they (the financial institutions) don't come to the Congress, I mean the Federal Reserve buys them out, they own it. We as tax payers now own Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and know one knows how much that will cost. They don't come to the Congress, we don't have appropriations, it's done by secret government, private individuals behind the scenes maneuvering and manipulating and trying to patch things up. While in the meantime, I'm sure there's a few people making a couple of bucks out of this whole thing.


Yes, I'm not 100% sure it is fully coherent either.

Source

Hat tip

And here was I thinking it was the result of what happens when greed meets lax regulation and develops a financial system that only three people in the world fully understand (three may be an overestimate - I've seen estimates as low as zero). We may be at the mercy of large and strange forces but the truth is far more frightening than a mere conspiracy!!!

[baja]

This is for you Josh, you maybe the only one here that can appreciate it

Lightworkers around the world have made the heart commitment to assist with the necessary purging that is taking place in the global economy. This is a natural part of the cleansing that must occur in order for the archetypes of God’s Infinite Abundance and Eternal Peace to tangibly manifest in the lives of awakening Humanity.

In order for the patterns of perfection for the New Earth to physically manifest, the overwhelming corruption, greed, fraud, selfishness, ignorance and abuse of power, which has been the order of the day for far too long in our global economic system, must be exposed and eliminated. This is exactly what we are witnessing at this time. Any attempt to reestablish these negative behavior patterns at the expense of the masses of Humanity will fail. These destructive patterns cannot be sustained in the 5th-Dimensional frequencies of the New Earth.

As the archetypes for God’s Infinite Abundance and Eternal Peace filter into the physical, etheric, mental and emotional strata of Earth, everything that conflicts with these patterns of perfection is being pushed to the surface to be healed and transmuted back into Light. Things seem very difficult at this time. That is due to the fact that as we watch the news and read our newspapers we easily see the horrific patterns of greed, fraud, corruption and the inequitable distribution of wealth that are being exposed. What we do not see as easily, is the incredible Light that is pushing these obsolete patterns of separation, fear and the abuse of power to the surface.

It is not the Divine Intent of our Father-Mother God for this imperative cleansing of the global economic system to take awakening Humanity down the tubes financially. Quite the contrary. The Divine Intent is for these old behavior patterns, which have caused so much pain and suffering throughout the world, to be quickly exposed and eliminated. Then the patterns of God’s Infinite Abundance and Eternal Peace will be easily established as the order of the day on the New Earth.

The most important thing Lightworkers can do to accelerate this process of healing is to focus our attention on the new patterns of Abundance and Peace. The Beings of Light in the Realms of Illumined Truth have given us wonderful invocations, visualizations and decrees to assist us in doing just that. These gifts from On High are designed to help us keep the focus of our thoughts, words, feelings and actions on the Truth of what is occurring instead of on the fear-based patterns of our broken global economy.

Please join in consciousness with Lightworkers all over the world as you empower the patterns of perfection for our global economy and for the New Earth. Go within to the deepest recesses of your heart, and join in one-pointed consciousness as you invoke the full Divine Potential of God’s Infinite Abundance and Eternal Peace.

These invocations are stated in the first person so that we will experience them tangibly in our individual lives, and simultaneously, we will invoke this Light for all Humanity as we serve as surrogates on behalf of every man, woman and child on Earth.

THE GOLDEN FLAME OF ABUNDANCE

Through the Power of God blazing in my heart and the hearts of ALL Humanity, I joyously receive and accept the gift of God’s Golden Flame of Eternal Peace and Infinite Abundance.

On the wings of this Divine Light, I Ascend into the Causal Body of God.

From this realm of Divine Consciousness, I have the clear inner knowing that
GOD IS MY SUPPLY!

I relinquish now, in the name of God, I AM, all of the power I have ever given to lack and limitation through my thoughts, words, actions and feelings in any time frame or dimension, both known or unknown.

I relinquish now, in the name of God, I AM, all of the beliefs I have ever had that were based in poverty consciousness.

From this moment forward, I consecrate and dedicate my very life to be the Open Door through which the new, frequencies of the Golden Flame of Eternal Peace and Infinite Abundance will now flow to bless me, my family, friends, coworkers and ALL Humanity.

As I breathe, think, speak, feel and act, the Presence of God within me is perpetually expanding the Golden Light of Eternal Peace and Infinite Abundance to all Life evolving on Earth. And so it is.

Through all levels of Divine Consciousness I now decree:

I AM! I AM! I AM!
The eternally sustained manifestation of God’s infinite supply of money and every good thing I require to assist me in my service to the Light, NOW made manifest and sustained by Holy Grace.

I AM! I AM! I AM!
The eternally sustained manifestation of God’s infinite supply of money and every good thing I require to assist me in my service to the Light, NOW made manifest and sustained by Holy Grace.

I AM! I AM! I AM!
The eternally sustained manifestation of God’s infinite supply of money and every good thing I require to assist me in my service to the Light, NOW made manifest and sustained by Holy Grace.

In deep love and appreciation for my glorious gift of Life, I consecrate my Heart and Soul
to be the Open Door for the patterns of perfection from the Causal Body of God until the New Earth is manifest, and all Life evolving here is wholly Ascended and FREE.

It is done! And so it is! Beloved I AM, Beloved I AM, Beloved I AM.

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[Meck77]

So far Ron has been right on target. He was the only candidate willing to speak out about a looming financial crisis that we are now facing. Mccain mentioned it two years. Not sure about Obama.

[baja]

So far Ron has been right on target. He was the only candidate willing to speak out about a looming financial crisis that we are now facing. Mccain mentioned it two years. Not sure about Obama.

Well I laid it out for you guys two years ago also but I feel much closer to RP than McCheese. McCheese' s latest statement was the basic economy is solid America a few hours later he was suspending his campaign to fly back to Washington to save that solid economy from utter collapse.

For real how can you continue to support this guy and his soccer mon VP.

[TailgateNut]

[QUOTE=baja;2101837

For real how can you continue to support this guy and his soccer mon VP.[/QUOTE]


They just vote party, **** the country!

[Meck77]

to support this guy and his soccer mon VP.

Not sure if you meant me by this statement but my vote for president has always gone to a 3rd party candidate. I don't believe either Obama or Mccain are the answer personally.

[alkemical]

Not sure if you meant me by this statement but my vote for president has always gone to a 3rd party candidate. I don't believe either Obama or Mccain are the answer personally.

Oh no, they're the answer Meck - don't get that confused. It's the question that is the worry.

[Dudeskey]

Oh no, they're the answer Meck - don't get that confused. It's the question that is the worry.

Yep. The question happens to be a close- ended one...™

[TailgateNut]

Not sure if you meant me by this statement but my vote for president has always gone to a 3rd party candidate. I don't believe either Obama or Mccain are the answer personally.



Sort of confusing as to why you were one of Bushs' water carriers for a long time, if you in FACT did not cast a vote for him. HMMMMMM?

[alkemical]

Yep. The question happens to be a close- ended one...™

Indeed.

[baja]

Sort of confusing as to why you were one of Bushs' water carriers for a long time, if you in FACT did not cast a vote for him. HMMMMMM?

I had decided not to say anything but I was wondering the same.

[Hotrod]

This is an odd thread

[TailgateNut]

I had decided not to say anything but I was wondering the same.


Every GD one of the X-Bush knob slobbers has now magically turned into an independent or a Libertarian. I'm so sick of the whole lot of them attempting to convince the rest of us they they had no hand in putting the current idiot into the WH. I may forget some things, but I do recall many of the "battles" which existed/ were waged on this board prior to the last election.
Now, all of a sudden, no one voted for Bush! Right!!!

[TailgateNut]

This is an odd thread

What's odd, is the collection of chameleons.

[Hotrod]

Every GD one of the X-Bush knob slobbers has now magically turned into an independent or a Libertarian. I'm so sick of the whole lot of them attempting to convince the rest of us they they had no hand in putting the current idiot into the WH. I may forget some things, but I do recall many of the "battles" which existed/ were waged on this board prior to the last election.
Now, all of a sudden, no one voted for Bush! Right!!!

Thats not true. I've maned up and admitted I voted for the idiot. I was obviously not alone.

[Taco John]

I didn't vote for Bush either time and have been a public libertarian going back to my days at the DPO (and prior).

[W*GS]

We are in the crisis of world civilization --and whether we survive or go the way of the DoDo is about to be decided.

Uh-hunh.

You're the dodo; the rest of us aren't.

[mhgaffney]

Broncobuff apparently is so sedated (on what?) -- or maybe he's just asleep -- that he doesn't GROK on what is happening.

Last week it was AIG. Before that it was Lehman Bros.

Today it was Washington Mutual. So who's next? We know that Gen Motors and Ford are also on the ropes. Where is the bottom?

Obviously, we are in a financial melt down of unprecedented proportions -- and if the so called bail out materializes -- the banksters will probably use it to cover their toxic debts, that is, to save themselves, while leaving the nation in even deeper straits.

Some Americans already "get it." Some will eventually "get it" only after being dragged kicking and screaming. But -- alas -- many, like Broncobuff, W*gs, Beerslugger (and Rohirrim?) will NEVER get it.

The other day I found this photo of Broncobuff posted on the Internet. Or is it Beerslugger? Without a head -- it's hard to tell.

Some please! Come to his (their) assistance before they lose it altogether.

MHG

[mhgaffney]

As the crisis deepens -- we can expect that those who are in denial will become more and more irrational.

Things are about to get truly bizarre -- stranger than we have ever seen in our lifetimes. Some poor souls are going to melt down right in front of our sad eyes.

Who are these unfortunates?

ANSWER: They are just like you and me -- except that their world view is sharply at odds with reality. Moreover -- they are not spiritually grounded -- which means they will be blown over when the true tempest hits.

What we are witnessing now are merely the foreshocks. Sadly -- the worst is yet to come.

MHG

[Hotrod]

As the crisis deepens -- we can expect that those who are in denial will become more and more irrational.

Things are about to get truly bizarre -- stranger than we have ever seen in our lifetimes. Some poor souls are going to melt down right in front of our sad eyes.

Who are these unfortunates?

ANSWER: They are just like you and me -- except that their world view is sharply at odds with reality. Moreover -- they are not spiritually grounded -- which means they will be blown over when the true tempest hits.

What we are witnessing now are merely the foreshocks. Sadly -- the worst is yet to come.

MHG

While I think were ****ed I just wanted to take a second and ask if were still invading Syria in July 2008???