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Spider
07-15-2008, 07:47 PM
went to apologize , to help clear my conscience ..... person would have no part of it ...... So I guess I am off the hook ?

SonOfLe-loLang
07-15-2008, 07:49 PM
The story please!

Spider
07-15-2008, 07:49 PM
P.S. Buff and Baja know what I did , I couldnt sleep last night .... today wasnt much better .... I guess what I am asking is what do I have to do to clear my conscience

Spider
07-15-2008, 07:50 PM
The story please!

you dont want ot hear it ....... but it was bad , damn bad .....

Hogan11
07-15-2008, 07:52 PM
If you sincerely apologized and it wasn't accepted, what more can you do?

I'd say you did what you could, turn the page.

Spider
07-15-2008, 07:53 PM
If you sincerely apologized and it wasn't accepted, what more can you do?

I'd say you did what you could, turn the page.

Thanks .......

Meck77
07-15-2008, 07:53 PM
you dont want ot hear it ....... but it was bad , damn bad .....

oh man....You didn't become a raider fan did you?

Spider
07-15-2008, 07:57 PM
oh man....You didn't become a raider fan did you?
well acted like one without the colors

Sassy
07-15-2008, 07:57 PM
oh man....You didn't become a raider fan did you?

ROFL!

Bob
07-15-2008, 08:02 PM
Let me guess:

1. Did you use more than your daily allocation of fossil fuels? If so, you are going to hell.
2. Did you vote for a Republican? If so, hell you are in. (say this with a Yoda voice.)
3. Did you run over the very rare & protected spotted rabbit?
4. Did you run a legal, but immoral Mexican trucker off the road?

Spider
07-15-2008, 08:04 PM
Let me guess:

1. Did you use more than your daily allocation of fossil fuels? If so, you are going to hell.
2. Did you vote for a Republican? If so, hell you are in. (say this with a Yoda voice.)
3. Did you run over the very rare & protected spotted rabbit?
4. Did you run a legal, but immoral Mexican trucker off the road?those are not bad things ....... they are mere hobbies ;D
But I think I will try and apologize one more time ........... Conventional wisdom is to beat the snot out of the person until they accept
........

CHANGSTER
07-15-2008, 08:06 PM
Did you at least bring his fingers with you so he could maybe get em reattached? If so, yeah your good.

SonOfLe-loLang
07-15-2008, 08:06 PM
Yeah, if they wont accept, what can ya do...you cant go back in time, so just gotta move on..ya did what ya could

But now im dying to know what ya did:)

Spider
07-15-2008, 08:08 PM
Yeah, if they wont accept, what can ya do...you cant go back in time, so just gotta move on..ya did what ya could

But now im dying to know what ya did:)
Long story short
well there was an argument , I punch the guy in the throat , His throat swelled up , he couldnt breathe for a bit there ...... still pretty bruised today he has a hard time speaking , but he got **** you out pretty clear

CHANGSTER
07-15-2008, 08:16 PM
Oh I was close, sort of. Well not much you can do with that. Even if he didn't accept it, thats all you can do. If it was fairly soon after cant be really surprised he didn't.

Meck77
07-15-2008, 08:18 PM
Yeah it might be best to wait for the pain and bruise to go away before ya'll have a beer together.

Bob
07-15-2008, 08:19 PM
On a more serious note, I am sorry that you are going through this. It is my opinion that when you can restitution for a wrong committed, you should. So some things we can’t easily “fix” but at least one can try. It is the trying to make it right without expectation of anything in return that is important. Sometimes if someone is holding a grudge against me, for something stupid I have done, the best thing that I can do is something really kind for them (and sometimes I would try to do it so that they would not know that I did it.)

My sister could not forgive my dad for things that he did (real and imagined) for years, then he got brain cancer, so it seems that people wait too late to find a way through this kind of thing -- if they don’t accept your apology, it may take time -- just as it might be hard for you to let it go, if the situation was reversed? If so, what would he HE HAVE TO DO to make it up to you?

Good luck to you....

Spider
07-15-2008, 08:20 PM
Maybe I should get him a hooker for an hour ........

Spider
07-15-2008, 08:22 PM
On a more serious note, I am sorry that you are going through this. It is my opinion that when you can restitution for a wrong committed, you should. So some things we can’t easily “fix” but at least one can try. It is the trying to make it right without expectation of anything in return that is important. Sometimes if someone is holding a grudge against me, for something stupid I have done, the best thing that I can do is something really kind for them (and sometimes I would try to do it so that they would not know that I did it.)

My sister could not forgive my dad for things that he did (real and imagined) for years, then he got brain cancer, so it seems that people wait too late to find a way through this kind of thing -- if they don’t accept your apology, it may take time -- just as it might be hard for you to let it go, if the situation was reversed? If so, what would he HE HAVE TO DO to make it up to you?

Good luck to you....
well I am considering anger management classes .....

yerner
07-15-2008, 08:23 PM
Damn dude. That is a pretty awful thing to do to somebody. I hope the argument was important.

Probably want to apologize again after some time. Then let it go either way.

Spider
07-15-2008, 08:25 PM
Damn dude. That is a pretty awful thing to do to somebody. I hope the argument was important.

Probably want to apologize again after some time. Then let it go either way.

it was over something Stupid my brother did ..... I just got tired of hearing it

SBboundBroncos
07-15-2008, 08:27 PM
just move on, if you were sincerely apologetic and he didnt accept there is relly no point in trying again. and unless there is a friendship involved its not worth staying up for

i say go to bed and dont look back, its his problem once he turns away the apology, at least the way i look at it

Gcver2ver3
07-15-2008, 08:29 PM
he's not gonna accept your apology right now...it's too soon...

wait awhile and then try it...people don't really wanna hear apologies after getting their butts kicked though...

it's actually prolly better that you don't apologize and just be leave him be...

SonOfLe-loLang
07-15-2008, 08:29 PM
yeah, id give it some time, at least till he heals

Spider
07-15-2008, 08:32 PM
I wonder if I paid for a day off for him .....

Los Broncos
07-15-2008, 08:38 PM
Dude Spider, your so high strung, I don't know what to say.

That One Guy
07-15-2008, 08:50 PM
Just keep this in mind for the future though. I think some of the antics are amusing because I'm generally non-confrontational unless necessary but sometimes the situations do go overboard. As long as the next guy doesn't get punched in the throat, something good has come from it. Think of the kids... something like this could have turned out much worse than merely a grudge being held.

Just think of that kid a while back that got hit with a baseball and died. Just a matter of the ball hitting him between heart beats and it stopped. It's too easy for something really bad to happen in a situation like that; make sure it's worth it before you strike someone else, no matter how pissed you are at the time. Everything's a learning experience.

Malcontent
07-15-2008, 09:04 PM
Spide..Ive chatted a bit with you here, and I think your a pretty decent guy...Heck we all have our moments of regret. Best thing to do is, in my opinion, send the guy a respectfull and from the heart self written card, some beer, and apologize once more. If that is ignored then so be it. As a guy...I would take the above gesture with respect. That is all...

scttgrd
07-15-2008, 09:09 PM
You have to let it sit for a little while. Then in a week or so go and see whats up. If this is family you have to give some time. Don't explain or B.S. your way through it, just admit you were wrong and apologize one more time. If that doesn't work, wait for it. It will either come or it won't, you can't force it.

Spider
07-15-2008, 09:15 PM
Spide..Ive chatted a bit with you here, and I think your a pretty decent guy...Heck we all have our moments of regret. Best thing to do is, in my opinion, send the guy a respectfull and from the heart self written card, some beer, and apologize once more. If that is ignored then so be it. As a guy...I would take the above gesture with respect. That is all...

Thanks. I really do feel bad about what happened ....... I mean the guy wouldnt shut up , he just kept running his mouth non stop .........

Spider
07-15-2008, 09:17 PM
You have to let it sit for a little while. Then in a week or so go and see whats up. If this is family you have to give some time. Don't explain or B.S. your way through it, just admit you were wrong and apologize one more time. If that doesn't work, wait for it. It will either come or it won't, you can't force it.

The guy I hit wasnt family .......

Malcontent
07-15-2008, 09:19 PM
Was he a "friend" or just someone that pissed you off in a diner? Just asking...

That One Guy
07-15-2008, 09:20 PM
Thanks. I really do feel bad about what happened ....... I mean the guy wouldnt shut up , he just kept running his mouth non stop .........

Sometimes you have to stand up as well. We weren't there to gauge the situation but I wont stand long for someone bashing my family. It may not have been the smart thing to do but, for instance, someone come over here and go after my wife or son... you might get punched in the throat and I'll call the cops myself afterwards. You still have to have priorities, only how the situation evolved can dictate whether your priorities are in line or not.

SouthStndJunkie
07-15-2008, 09:20 PM
Maybe he did not want to accept your apology because he plans to sue your ass off.

Spider
07-15-2008, 09:23 PM
Was he a "friend" or just someone that pissed you off in a diner? Just asking...

it was at work , not even a friend .....28 year old kid

Spider
07-15-2008, 09:26 PM
Maybe he did not want to accept your apology because he plans to sue your ass off.

Not in Wyoming , the cops were called , filed under mutual combat , the guy did square off with me , it isnt like I just walked up and blasted him , I told him to shut the **** up or I will shut him up ( something along those lines ) He told me in front of everyone he would beat me down , I didnt say a word , I just struck him ........

socalorado
07-15-2008, 09:26 PM
Thanks. I really do feel bad about what happened ....... I mean the guy wouldnt shut up , he just kept running his mouth non stop .........

So you punched Baja in the throat.
Big deal ! Trust me, many of us here have wanted to do that!
$h!t, half of us wouldnt mind it if you drove over to Wolfpuppies house and
coldcocked him. (kidding)

Seriously, if hes a big enough man, he will understand that in the heat of the moment $h!t happens, and in the long run, as long as he can speak again he will more than likely have MORE respect for you as a person.
I just bet once he gets to speaking again, he will come up to you and say that he was being an @$$hole, and he shouldnt have taunted you into actually using physical force, and then you guys will have a few beers and be better friends from it.
Dont apologize anymore. Youve done it enough, and now your just being a pushover. He knows you feel like crap, and he knows he should have stopped smacktalking, so let it go.
I guess learn from it. Try to change the "feel before you think" to "think before you feel" I guess.

Malcontent
07-15-2008, 09:26 PM
OK..how bad off is the guy? Will he survive, or does he have "Javon Walker-broken face like symptoms"...Cmon Spide fess up...were not going to slam you, just trying to help man!

Spider
07-15-2008, 09:31 PM
So you punched Baja in the throat.
Big deal ! Trust me, many of us here have wanted to do that!
$h!t, half of us wouldnt mind it if you drove over to Wolfpuppies house and
coldcocked him. (kidding)

Seriously, if hes a big enough man, he will understand that in the heat of the moment $h!t happens, and in the long run, as long as he can speak again he will more than likely have MORE respect for you as a person.
I just bet once he gets to speaking again, he will come up to you and say that he was being an @$$hole, and he shouldnt have taunted you into actually using physical force, and then you guys will have a few beers and be better friends from it.
Dont apologize anymore. Youve done it enough, and now your just being a pushover. He knows you feel like crap, and he knows he should have stopped smacktalking, so let it go.
I guess learn from it. Try to change the "feel before you think" to "think before you feel" I guess.

good advice

PaintballCLE
07-15-2008, 09:31 PM
Being the Republican that I am.... you ready for my great advice?

Don't give a F^%K what anyone else thinks........if you feel bad for it then its over. Lifes too short to worry about what other people think.......For example.......if i did something to you......then felt bad about it (hell, even if i didnt and you deserved it) whats done is done and you cant change time.....so just roll with it man.......the more you think about it the worse it usually becomes.

On that note.....Check the Gala award thread.........i nominated you (and yes that was before this thread lol)

Spider
07-15-2008, 09:33 PM
OK..how bad off is the guy? Will he survive, or does he have "Javon Walker-broken face like symptoms"...Cmon Spide fess up...were not going to slam you, just trying to help man!
He isnt seriously hurt , though "putting the boots to him "did enter my mind , but I thought I had killed this guy ........i was worried

Spider
07-15-2008, 09:34 PM
Being the Republican that I am.... you ready for my great advice?

Don't give a F^%K what anyone else thinks........if you feel bad for it then its over. Lifes too short to worry about what other people think.......For example.......if i did something to you......then felt bad about it (hell, even if i didnt and you deserved it) whats done is done and you cant change time.....so just roll with it man.......the more you think about it the worse it usually becomes.

On that note.....Check the Gala award thread.........i nominated you (and yes that was before this thread lol)
;D

JPEZ
07-15-2008, 09:37 PM
He isnt seriously hurt , though "putting the boots to him "did enter my mind , but I thought I had killed this guy ........i was worried

He's holding a grudge!
He's gonna try and take you out when you're not paying attention! :yep:

Spider
07-15-2008, 09:38 PM
He's holding a grudge!
He's gonna try and take you out when you're not paying attention! :yep:

If he did that I would feel better , he wouldnt get the Job done , but I wouldnt feel like such an asshole

Ray Finkle
07-15-2008, 09:39 PM
Hey Spider,
Remorse is the best thing right now.....right or wrong, if you weren't feel bad for what happened, then you are an ass. I know you enough to know that is not true. Apologize and if he turns his back, then that is all you can do.

Spider
07-15-2008, 09:41 PM
Hey Spider,
Remorse is the best thing right now.....right or wrong, if you weren't feel bad for what happened, then you are an ass. I know you enough to know that is not true. Apologize and if he turns his back, then that is all you can do.

Thanks bro ........

JPEZ
07-15-2008, 09:42 PM
If he did that I would feel better , he wouldnt get the Job done , but I wouldnt feel like such an a-hole

That's what I mean!!!
He knows he won't get the job done "mano-y-mano" so he's gonna ambush!

chaz
07-15-2008, 09:42 PM
Don't give a F^%K what anyone else thinks........if you feel bad for it then its over. Lifes too short to worry about what other people think.......

simply stunning...

Spider-Do something nice for him, nothing extravagant but something. Don't lose sleep worrying about the past, it's over, instead think about rectifying the situation and then MOVING ON. He was an a-hole, no doubt and hopefully he'll realize his error like you have. Don't beat yourself up, forgive yourself and learn from it.

PaintballCLE
07-15-2008, 09:42 PM
I wonder if I paid for a day off for him .....

am i really hearing this from the big and bad spider? your supposed to Puff, puff, PASS

Taco John
07-15-2008, 09:49 PM
I would say that there's a window here. Asking for forgiveness when the guy is still in serious pain isn't going to get 'er done. You've got to show you're really sorry by coming back when he's healed up... IMO.

Spider
07-15-2008, 09:49 PM
am i really hearing this from the big and bad spider? your supposed to Puff, puff, PASS
If I had hit him in the Jaw , I wouldnt feel bad about it .......

Ratboy
07-15-2008, 09:51 PM
Long story short
well there was an argument , I punch the guy in the throat , His throat swelled up , he couldnt breathe for a bit there ...... still pretty bruised today he has a hard time speaking , but he got **** you out pretty clear

Lawls! Pwned. Ha!

eddie mac
07-15-2008, 09:54 PM
Not in Wyoming , the cops were called , filed under mutual combat , the guy did square off with me , it isnt like I just walked up and blasted him , I told him to shut the **** up or I will shut him up ( something along those lines ) He told me in front of everyone he would beat me down , I didnt say a word , I just struck him ........

Where I come from it sounds like he deserved a good slap.

Spider
07-15-2008, 09:54 PM
Lawls! Pwned. Ha!
In English...........

Spider
07-15-2008, 09:56 PM
Where I come from it sounds like he deserved a good slap.

well both of my Brothers are assholes , but I dont need to hear it from other people ........

PaintballCLE
07-15-2008, 10:01 PM
If I had hit him in the Jaw , I wouldnt feel bad about it .......



lol well i assumed you were aiming for the jaw, and just hit a bit low......now if you were aiming for the throat.......then thats a different story......i would have to give you extra bonus points for that lol!

Second (I really hope you know im just messing around with ya..... i hoe you dont take any of this personally because i value my throat!)

eddie mac
07-15-2008, 10:03 PM
well both of my Brothers are a-holes , but I dont need to hear it from other people ........

Been in the exact same position many years ago Spide and did the exact same thing when another guy called my girl a slut. Fair dues he beat the **** out of me but I still hurt the ****er and he was far bigger than I was and he never said **** ever again.

baja
07-15-2008, 10:06 PM
You could send him flowers with a nice card!

Spider
07-15-2008, 10:07 PM
lol well i assumed you were aiming for the jaw, and just hit a bit low......now if you were aiming for the throat.......then thats a different story......i would have to give you extra bonus points for that lol!

Second (I really hope you know im just messing around with ya..... i hoe you dont take any of this personally because i value my throat!)
;D I know
well he is younger ,stronger and faster , when he squared off , all that went through my mind was take this bastard out and fast , maybe subconsciously I did go for his throat .. I am 6 foot 225 pounds , he was 5'11 or 6 foot and 240 pounds . ..

baja
07-15-2008, 10:07 PM
Or even loan him your favorite sheep for the night.

Seriously what ever you do be sure to watch your back until he comes around and it's good to try to make amends.
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Spider
07-15-2008, 10:09 PM
Been in the exact same position many years ago Spide and did the exact same thing when another guy called my girl a slut. Fair dues he beat the **** out of me but I still hurt the ****er and he was far bigger than I was and he never said **** ever again.

well you got your point across ...... ;D
remember this , you can put muscle on your body except for your nuts , front of your throat , and joints , big or small these points are targets on all men .....

baja
07-15-2008, 10:10 PM
Been in the exact same position many years ago Spide and did the exact same thing when another guy called my girl a slut. Fair dues he beat the **** out of me but I still hurt the ****er and he was far bigger than I was and he never said **** ever again.

I called a guys girl a slut once and found the barrel of a 45 stuck between my eyes...

I said maybe she is not all that bad. Luckily that cracked the guy up and we moved on.

Spider
07-15-2008, 10:12 PM
Or even loan him your favorite sheep for the night.

Seriously what ever you do be sure to watch your back until he comes around and it's good to try to make amends.
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No on the sheep ..... I feel bad but not that bad ;D

Casper Bronco
07-15-2008, 10:18 PM
Maybe I should get him a hooker for an hour ........

And you think getting him a hooker in Casper is going to make it better?ROFL!

eddie mac
07-15-2008, 10:18 PM
I called a guys girl a slut once and found the barrel of a 45 stuck between my eyes...

I said maybe she is not all that bad. Luckily that cracked the guy up and we moved on.Ha!

eddie mac
07-15-2008, 10:21 PM
No on the sheep ..... I feel bad but not that bad ;D

You could say it was an honest mistake. Tell him you'd heard there were rumours flying around the workplace that he was really a woman so you were just checking if it was really a Adam's apple in his throat.LOL

Spider
07-15-2008, 10:23 PM
You could say it was an honest mistake. Tell him you'd heard there were rumours flying around the workplace that he was really a woman so you were just checking if it was really a Adam's apple in his throat.LOL

LOL ........

baja
07-15-2008, 10:26 PM
Seriously watch your back bro he might want to lead pipe your ass...

Spider
07-15-2008, 10:32 PM
Seriously watch your back bro he might want to lead pipe your ass...

Meh ......he wouldnt get a cherry if he does that ....... these are the last of my worries , you know what scares me the most ? My boys doing the same things I have done

theAPAOps5
07-15-2008, 10:38 PM
Dude you have to be careful. Punching a guys throat could land you with involuntary manslaughter. You are lucky you didn't crush his esophagus.

I have lost it and punched a guy but not in the throat. Actually this guy was running his mouth and got into my face. Too close to punch so I head butted him. Broke his nose. I apologized when I ran into him again and he totally thought he deserved it. My solution, I quite drinking hard liquor. It always got me in trouble. I also started working out and it was great stress management.

Sassy
07-15-2008, 10:42 PM
I can't believe some of you find this humorous.

Paladin
07-15-2008, 10:50 PM
Aw, h3ll, Spider. Go clock himn again. This time hit the jaw. He deseves it for keeping you awake at nights.....

baja
07-15-2008, 10:52 PM
Meh ......he wouldnt get a cherry if he does that ....... these are the last of my worries , you know what scares me the most ? My boys doing the same things I have done

Well you can sure teach them a better way, sometimes we teach what we need to learn the most. ;D

That One Guy
07-15-2008, 10:53 PM
I can't believe some of you find this humorous.

1. Sometimes people do deserve a good throat punch.

2. I also find a ball to the nuts funny as long as it wasn't my nuts nor my ball. When someone else is responsible and the victim, it can definitely be hillarious. Sounds like two A-holes ran into each other and one A-hole now has a little less to say... or he has to struggle a bit more to say it.

Knuckle Dragger
07-15-2008, 10:53 PM
I don't know you, and I don't know him. But if the guy squared off to fight and you got the better of him, then that's that. If he didn't want to fight he should have backed out and shut up. You did the manly thing and tried to square it with him after the fact. He didn't accept it, then it's all on him. I wouldn't let it trouble you a bit. IMO

That One Guy
07-15-2008, 10:55 PM
Nice... in a sweet twist a fate, "Knuckle Dragger" uses the "hey, you guys fought and he lost" logic. That's awesome.

BroncoBuff
07-15-2008, 10:56 PM
Maybe I should get him a hooker for an hour ........
What happened to the ice-cold 6-pack of Bud in bottles I suggested? :wiggle:

BroncoBuff
07-15-2008, 10:57 PM
P.S. Buff and Baja know what I did , I couldnt sleep last night .... today wasnt much better .... I guess what I am asking is what do I have to do to clear my conscience
You know ... they CAN be reattached.

Remember John Bobbitt?

baja
07-15-2008, 11:01 PM
<b>1. Sometimes people do deserve a good throat punch.</b>

2. I also find a ball to the nuts funny as long as it wasn't my nuts nor my ball. When someone else is responsible and the victim, it can definitely be hillarious. Sounds like two A-holes ran into each other and one A-hole now has a little less to say... or he has to struggle a bit more to say it.

Don't know about that. The throat is a kill shot not too many deserve that.

If you think the guy can kick your ass it's better to disable him ie break his nose or take his wind.

baja
07-15-2008, 11:02 PM
You know ... they CAN be reattached.

Remember John Bobbitt?

I told him to claim his jaw locked up...

LonghornBronco
07-15-2008, 11:10 PM
Spidy, spidy, spidy.... ar'nt you a bit old to be fightin after work? I know where your coming from. I have been struggling with my anger/violence issues for years. So much so that I'm seeing a shrink. You need to get ahold of this before you hurt somebody (or yourself). Sorry to come down on you so hard, but my brother was killed in a street fight because he was sticking up for a friend (who ran as fast as he could). This is something in my family that has lead to alot of prison time and worse. I read your posts often and always saw the similarities to my own strugles (and sick sense of humor). Also I think you have a big heart, so man get some help will ya, before you run into a bunch of guys that don't know when to call the dogs off when they are puttin the boots to ya.

P.S. What did your brother do to him?

rugbythug
07-15-2008, 11:13 PM
Hey Bro- I would look into the anger management courses. No since having to get into it with people all the time. It's not like you get anything constructive out of it.

Or better yet skip the classes and read the Bible. You sleep better and have less fights.

baja
07-15-2008, 11:55 PM
Meh ......he wouldnt get a cherry if he does that ....... these are the last of my worries , you know what scares me the most ? My boys doing the same things I have done

I know you are fearless but non the less I'm gonna say a little prayer for your safety

CoopDawg
07-16-2008, 02:17 AM
Just don't let it happen again, that is the only thing you can truly control. You clearly recognize that you messed up so just let some time go by and try to apologize again.

Greybeard
07-16-2008, 02:30 AM
Long story short
well there was an argument , I punch the guy in the throat , His throat swelled up , he couldnt breathe for a bit there ...... still pretty bruised today he has a hard time speaking , but he got **** you out pretty clear

Well, no wonder. Why don't you wait for a while until he recovers and the pain
goes away, then try back? It's just not human nature to do much forgiving
while you're still suffering. ???

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watermock
07-16-2008, 02:53 AM
I take it flowers wouldn't help?

Arkansas Bronco
07-16-2008, 06:07 AM
;D I know
well he is younger ,stronger and faster , when he squared off , all that went through my mind was take this bastard out and fast , maybe subconsciously I did go for his throat .. I am 6 foot 225 pounds , he was 5'11 or 6 foot and 240 pounds . ..

Hard call bro Im 160 and fought guys up to 280 (hell yea I lost) but a throat punch is a dish served only for when you want to kill a man. On the other side now days you can never tell how far the other guy wants to go most punks like to pull guns ( like Eddie Ive had a gun on my forehead as well).

thumpc
07-16-2008, 06:26 AM
So you punched Baja in the throat.
Big deal ! Trust me, many of us here have wanted to do that!
$h!t, half of us wouldnt mind it if you drove over to Wolfpuppies house and
coldcocked him. (kidding)

Seriously, if hes a big enough man, he will understand that in the heat of the moment $h!t happens, and in the long run, as long as he can speak again he will more than likely have MORE respect for you as a person.
I just bet once he gets to speaking again, he will come up to you and say that he was being an @$$hole, and he shouldnt have taunted you into actually using physical force, and then you guys will have a few beers and be better friends from it.
Dont apologize anymore. Youve done it enough, and now your just being a pushover. He knows you feel like crap, and he knows he should have stopped smacktalking, so let it go.
I guess learn from it. Try to change the "feel before you think" to "think before you feel" I guess.

What he said. The guy challenged you, then was too slow to back it up. You only feel bad because you hurt him, but how could you know he was such a worthless fighter? His physical pain is temporary.
Don't let someone insult your family, repeatedly, and then play the victim when they get trounced. The kid will heal, and for Pete's sake, don't write him a Goddam letter, he owes you an apology. Its your brother he was talking about.

TheReverend
07-16-2008, 06:42 AM
So the real bad thing is just hitting someone...?

thumpc
07-16-2008, 06:58 AM
Don't know about that. The throat is a kill shot not too many deserve that.

If you think the guy can kick your ass it's better to disable him ie break his nose or take his wind.

He said the throat shot wasn't intentional. The throat is close to the jaw and the nose. When one is swinging at a guy who has just claimed he will kick your ass, insulted your family, and is 28 years old, 240lbs, its no time to be gentle, and accuracy is not always perfect.
Spider was cornered, it happened at his workplace, in front of his coworkers. Its the kind of thing that needs to be handled, nipped in the bud, to prevent future misery and abuse.
The guy has issues with your brother, and you understand that. He used that pretense in an attempt to punk you at work, where the respect you receive can affect your livelihood.
How would you feel if you had allowed him to go on? When would it stop if boundaries are not drawn?

ScottXray
07-16-2008, 10:25 AM
Spidey,

Wait a while (one-two weeks or so) and try to apologise again. Offer to pay for any medical expenses he might have incurred and throw in a case or three of his favorite beverage, maybe a set of Broncos tickets to a game. Document your attempt in some way!
If he still won't accept it get ready to hire a lawyer, cause you are gonna get sued. He has two years to file, so you aren't out of the woods for that long.

Hope it works out, but unfortunately you may be in the wrong (legally) and it could get expensive before it's over if the guy is a real dick.

Don't beat his ass again. If he refuses to accept an apology avoid him and watch your ass.

Steve Sewell
07-16-2008, 10:28 AM
those are not bad things ....... they are mere hobbies ;D
But I think I will try and apologize one more time ........... Conventional wisdom is to beat the snot out of the person until they accept
........

You have to try and do a fake cry...think about something really sad, like the 97 divisional playoff game vs. the Jags.

Hotrod
07-16-2008, 10:28 AM
I didnt read that whole thread but did he deserve to get his ass kicked or no. If so your a pussy for saying sorry.

Steve Sewell
07-16-2008, 10:33 AM
Thanks. I really do feel bad about what happened ....... I mean the guy wouldnt shut up , he just kept running his mouth non stop .........

Hmm, if someone was bagging on my brother non-stop I'd probably do the same thing with no regrets or apologies.

TheReverend
07-16-2008, 10:36 AM
I didnt read that whole thread but did he deserve to get his ass kicked or no. If so your a p***Y for saying sorry.

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Steve Sewell
07-16-2008, 10:37 AM
;D I know
well he is younger ,stronger and faster , when he squared off , all that went through my mind was take this bastard out and fast , maybe subconsciously I did go for his throat .. I am 6 foot 225 pounds , he was 5'11 or 6 foot and 240 pounds . ..

Was this...

Bob?

Steve Sewell
07-16-2008, 10:41 AM
Spidy, spidy, spidy.... ar'nt you a bit old to be fightin after work? I know where your coming from. I have been struggling with my anger/violence issues for years. So much so that I'm seeing a shrink. You need to get ahold of this before you hurt somebody (or yourself). Sorry to come down on you so hard, but my brother was killed in a street fight because he was sticking up for a friend (who ran as fast as he could). This is something in my family that has lead to alot of prison time and worse. I read your posts often and always saw the similarities to my own strugles (and sick sense of humor). Also I think you have a big heart, so man get some help will ya, before you run into a bunch of guys that don't know when to call the dogs off when they are puttin the boots to ya.

P.S. What did your brother do to him?

I know this...that most men deal with depression with anger/lashing out. Glad you are seeking help.

chaz
07-16-2008, 10:43 AM
Dude you have to be careful. Punching a guys throat could land you with involuntary manslaughter. You are lucky you didn't crush his esophagus.
.

not to get technical, but the esophagus is soft tissue behind the trachea, which is what would be crushed. el windpipeo for those that speak spanish.

Steve Sewell
07-16-2008, 10:44 AM
Spidey,

Wait a while (one-two weeks or so) and try to apologise again. Offer to pay for any medical expenses he might have incurred and throw in a case or three of his favorite beverage, maybe a set of Broncos tickets to a game. Document your attempt in some way!
If he still won't accept it get ready to hire a lawyer, cause you are gonna get sued. He has two years to file, so you aren't out of the woods for that long.

Hope it works out, but unfortunately you may be in the wrong (legally) and it could get expensive before it's over if the guy is a real dick.

Don't beat his ass again. If he refuses to accept an apology avoid him and watch your ass.

He's not going to win a lawsuit if there were multiple witnesses that saw two people square up to fight. Spider was acting in self defense more than anything.

theAPAOps5
07-16-2008, 10:48 AM
not to get technical, but the esophagus is soft tissue behind the trachea, which is what would be crushed. el windpipeo for those that speak spanish.

Thanks for the clarification. I knew that too. Sounds like the guy deserved an ass kicking. You just have to watch the throat punches. That could turn bad quick.

BMF Bronco
07-16-2008, 11:02 AM
**** him, if he didn't want to get punched he should have kept his mouth shut.

cutthemdown
07-16-2008, 11:05 AM
I'd say if you really feel you were wrong and what you did was as bad as you let on that just an apology may not be enough.

Sometimes people need time before they can forgive so you have to give it to them. If your sincere and they still can't forgive after a few weeks or whatever then you move on. Of course you never grovel and of course I know you wouldn't do that.

cutthemdown
07-16-2008, 11:09 AM
He isnt seriously hurt , though "putting the boots to him "did enter my mind , but I thought I had killed this guy ........i was worried

One day you probably will kill someone. Your anger and lack of control are Darth Vadersih. You need some serious anger management so you won't make a mistake that can't be fixed with just an apology.

You said something about the movie dual once with dennis weaver. I always liked that flick as well. Just try and make sure you don't end up like the trucker in that movie.

Kaylore
07-16-2008, 03:36 PM
All you can do is apologize and ask forgiveness. I would also try to restore what you took away. In this case you took away his a-holeness so you should try and make him a jerk again as soon as possible. After that it's not in your hands.

Spider
07-16-2008, 08:49 PM
He got moved to another job site , I will be hauling asphault all next week ........

theAPAOps5
07-16-2008, 09:21 PM
Eh that is a ****ty route. Asphalt is hot, smelly, and usually you have to sit in a cue waiting to drop.

Spider
07-16-2008, 09:32 PM
Eh that is a ****ty route. Asphalt is hot, smelly, and usually you have to sit in a cue waiting to drop.

;D Not to mention dieseling the trailer , thencleaning to out aftwards

socalorado
07-16-2008, 10:04 PM
;D Not to mention dieseling the trailer , thencleaning to out aftwards

Is it an end dump?

baja
07-16-2008, 10:28 PM
All you can do is apologize and ask forgiveness. I would also try to restore what you took away. In this case you took away his a-holeness so you should try and make him a jerk again as soon as possible. After that it's not in your hands.

OK I don't want to hear you whining about your religion and being disrespected any more you hypocrite.

orinjkrush
07-16-2008, 10:47 PM
gotta be careful about that throat punch thingey. smash the adam's apple and its goodbye wally.

rugbythug
07-16-2008, 10:59 PM
OK I don't want to hear you whining about your religion and being disrespected any more you hypocrite.

Wow- Coming in from far left field

Earendil
07-16-2008, 11:06 PM
those are not bad things ....... they are mere hobbies ;D
But I think I will try and apologize one more time ........... Conventional wisdom is to beat the snot out of the person until they accept
........
Conventional wisdom isn't always right, but perhaps you haven't burned your bridges as I did. However, the voice of bitter experience says:

You've done what you can. You offered a sincere apology for reacting badly when wronged, but whether anyone forgives you is on their soul. Don't beat yourself over things you repent but can't undo. The ball is in their court now and you can't return it for them. If they want to deal with it they will and if they won't you don't want to deal with them at all. You can't do it for them and only make it worse trying. That's what provoked you, remember?

"Off the hook" is perhaps a bit too much, but there's no more you can do.
Just keep this in mind for the future though. I think some of the antics are amusing because I'm generally non-confrontational unless necessary but sometimes the situations do go overboard. As long as the next guy doesn't get punched in the throat, something good has come from it. Think of the kids... something like this could have turned out much worse than merely a grudge being held.
I was non-confrontational, too, wanted to be "nice." I always said I was like my parents: We'll endure a lot, especially if we care, but when we've had enough, we're done. The problem is you end up where I and apparently Spider, too, were recently.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Neddy

If you don't address it quickly huge misunderstandings occur ending in disaster for everyone. Assert but don't assault is my new motto.

colonelbeef
07-17-2008, 01:34 AM
Stop getting in fights dude. All you are asking for is a lawsuit. Take it easy and realize that you aren't here to put all of the morons in place. People acting like douchebags will get theirs one way or another. Take up a hobby that will alleviate your temper. Like logging, or pro football.

Hopefully this kid learned his lesson too and will stop acting like a toughguy.

thumpc
07-17-2008, 01:50 AM
I don't think Spider is going to have any problems at work for a long while.

Spider
07-17-2008, 06:37 AM
Is it an end dump?

48 foot belly dump

Hotrod
07-17-2008, 09:15 AM
I don't think Spider is going to have any problems at work for a long while.

LOL very true

Rock Chalk
07-17-2008, 09:27 AM
went to apologize , to help clear my conscience ..... person would have no part of it ...... So I guess I am off the hook ?

Next time, aim for the toilet.

socalorado
07-17-2008, 09:30 AM
48 foot belly dump

Aww. So you cant hydraulically lift up the front and then let gravity do the work for you.
F,n sucks man. You gotta actually get in the back with a shovel and a hose and start cleaning.
Sucks, ive done it.

Kaylore
07-17-2008, 09:34 AM
OK I don't want to hear you whining about your religion and being disrespected any more you hypocrite.

LOL It's a joke, Baja. Dude, do you walk around all day finding sadness, misery and woe in everything? I think I pegged you (http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/weenie.htm) perfectly. Anyway, for the sake of being a good poster, please don't hijack this thread.

TheReverend
07-17-2008, 09:38 AM
Aww. So you cant hydraulically lift up the front and then let gravity do the work for you.
F,n sucks man. You gotta actually get in the back with a shovel and a hose and start cleaning.
Sucks, ive done it.

Did not see that coming...

What the hell do you do?

socalorado
07-17-2008, 09:45 AM
Did not see that coming...

What the hell do you do?

When i was a kid i worked for my friends, dads demolition and grading company. breakin rocks all day.
Man, did that job teach me the meaning of "hard work".

TheReverend
07-17-2008, 09:51 AM
When i was a kid i worked for my friends, dads demolition and grading company. breakin rocks all day.
Man, did that job teach me the meaning of "hard work".

When i was a kid i worked as Chuck E Cheese. Man, did that job NOT teach me the meaning of "hard work".

Mountain Bronco
07-17-2008, 10:18 AM
Why am I not suprised to see this thread. What are you 50 years old with kids and still getting in fights, yelling at construction crews and god knows what else? Isn't it time to grow up?

Waits patiently for the profanity laced reply.

Arkansas Bronco
07-17-2008, 10:24 AM
Why am I not suprised to see this thread. What are you 50 years old with kids and still getting in fights, yelling at construction crews and god knows what else? Isn't it time to grow up?

Waits patiently for the profanity laced reply.

Fights arnt one sided, unless you just wanna stand there and get your ass beat.

Orange_Beard
07-17-2008, 10:27 AM
Punch him again.

socalorado
07-17-2008, 10:37 AM
When i was a kid i worked as Chuck E Cheese. Man, did that job NOT teach me the meaning of "hard work".

DUDE! Were you the freaky "chester molester" guy who walked around in the mouse costume? Man, i swear, we would kick and smack that guy till they chased, (kicked) us out!! Lots of hi-jinks and shenanigans at cheese!
Good times. good times.

DB-Freak
07-17-2008, 10:40 AM
lol... why in the throat dude?

cutthemdown
07-17-2008, 10:50 AM
lol... why in the throat dude?

because Roadhouse is his favorite movie of all time.

DB-Freak
07-17-2008, 10:54 AM
Spider must be a 10th blackbelt in JKD or Krav Maga.

Rock Chalk
07-17-2008, 12:03 PM
OK I don't want to hear you whining about your religion and being disrespected any more you hypocrite.

DId you finalize your Mexican citizenship yet?

Hotrod
07-17-2008, 12:12 PM
Why am I not suprised to see this thread. What are you 50 years old with kids and still getting in fights, yelling at construction crews and god knows what else? Isn't it time to grow up?

Waits patiently for the profanity laced reply.

http://www.andy-yates.co.uk/vd/ghey.jpg

Kaylore
07-17-2008, 12:15 PM
http://www.andy-yates.co.uk/vd/ghey.jpg

:spit:

Spider
07-17-2008, 05:19 PM
Why am I not suprised to see this thread. What are you 50 years old with kids and still getting in fights, yelling at construction crews and god knows what else? Isn't it time to grow up?

Waits patiently for the profanity laced reply.
so the down side is what ??
I was feeling pretty bad about what I did , but I guess this guy beat the snot out of one of the Mexican workers last year cause the Mex accidentaly drank his water ......... But then a piss ant like you ,would have taken his abuse ......

Spider
07-17-2008, 05:22 PM
lol... why in the throat dude?

He is younger , stronger and faster , got alot more stanima ...... though I shouldnt have hit him in the throat though ........

Spider
07-17-2008, 05:24 PM
Aww. So you cant hydraulically lift up the front and then let gravity do the work for you.
F,n sucks man. You gotta actually get in the back with a shovel and a hose and start cleaning.
Sucks, ive done it.

;D

Spider
07-17-2008, 05:25 PM
Spider must be a 10th blackbelt in JKD or Krav Maga.
;D just a quick fuse

DB-Freak
07-18-2008, 08:12 AM
;D just a quick fuse

Well done my friend.... a ninja should always go for the quick kill although striking someone in the throat, groin, or eyes doesn't exactly sound like a mutual combat situation thing unless it was a fight to the death.

Earendil
07-18-2008, 08:20 AM
Well done my friend.... a ninja should always go for the quick kill although striking someone in the throat, groin, or eyes doesn't exactly sound like a mutual combat situation thing unless it was a fight to the death.
Since when are Ninja Samurai? You want three days in the surf waiting for the dishonorable SOB to strike first, find yourself a shogun. Poison darts in the dark, go ninja.

Spider
07-18-2008, 09:39 AM
Ok got a lot of feed back , thanks ....... But now if you had been in my shoes , mind you these people are not office people , they are laborers ,
there is no human resource people , no affirmative action , no supervisor , nothing , you have to solve your own hassles .......
So what would some of you done ?
Fight ? walk off ? get in touch with your feminine side ?
i will add this , doesnt matter if it is in the patch or a construction , you want to be known as someone who can hold his own ........

Beantown Bronco
07-18-2008, 09:58 AM
I would've taken a sh*t in his cab.

TheReverend
07-18-2008, 11:16 AM
Sleep with his wife, mother, sister and post pics at work.

Mountain Bronco
07-18-2008, 11:23 AM
Ok got a lot of feed back , thanks ....... But now if you had been in my shoes , mind you these people are not office people , they are laborers ,
there is no human resource people , no affirmative action , no supervisor , nothing , you have to solve your own hassles .......
So what would some of you done ?
Fight ? walk off ? get in touch with your feminine side ?
i will add this , doesnt matter if it is in the patch or a construction , you want to be known as someone who can hold his own ........

Look Spider, I understand the construction world, I was a ditch laborer sticking pipe for miles and miles of water line for years and you are right, these are not office people and you can't be a pansy ass. I just figured after all your years and experience you would have moved on from actually engaging in fisticuffs. However, now it sounds more like a premptive strike in order to avoid a full on brawl with someone who sounds like a lowlife. If that is the case, why are you sorry at all?

Beantown Bronco
07-18-2008, 12:06 PM
I was a ditch laborer sticking pipe for miles and miles of water line for years

Reminds me of a classic line from one of my favorite movies:

I've laid more pipe in this town than Wabasha Plumbing.

SouthStndJunkie
07-18-2008, 03:43 PM
Surveillance Footage at a job site in Wyoming:

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Spider
07-18-2008, 07:01 PM
Look Spider, I understand the construction world, I was a ditch laborer sticking pipe for miles and miles of water line for years and you are right, these are not office people and you can't be a pansy ass. I just figured after all your years and experience you would have moved on from actually engaging in fisticuffs. However, now it sounds more like a premptive strike in order to avoid a full on brawl with someone who sounds like a lowlife. If that is the case, why are you sorry at all?
I dont feel bad about the fight , I wanted it more then he did , I feel bad about where I hit him .....

DarkHorse
07-18-2008, 07:05 PM
Wait a few days and offer another apology. If still not accepted then really what more can you do? Tell him to contact you (If he can) when he's ready to accept, and move on.

Punching someone in the throat isn't that bad - hell, very effective if anything. :thumbsup:

broncocalijohn
07-18-2008, 07:48 PM
went to apologize , to help clear my conscience ..... person would have no part of it ...... So I guess I am off the hook ?

You at least apologized but he doesnt have to accept your apology. I dont know what went down on the punching of the throat but seems pretty severe. You can ruin someones vocal cords or kill him. I think the best way to show him you are truely sorry is to finally get to anger management and give him one of your 15 kids. It will be like babysitting. Good luck. Punching someone's throat?

broncocalijohn
07-18-2008, 08:17 PM
BTW, i voted "Yes you are off the hook." just based on that the poll is public and I dont want a late night knock on my door with a quick punch to the throat. You are forgiven!

Spider
07-18-2008, 08:19 PM
BTW, i voted "Yes you are off the hook." just based on that the poll is public and I dont want a late night knock on my door with a quick punch to the throat. You are forgiven!

thanks ....

lazarus4444
03-06-2009, 05:43 PM
Ahhh, so THIS is where all the throat punching stuff comes from, nice.

I think you scared yourself punching him in the throat and you got lucky.

Water under the bridge.

I bet nobody will be f'n with you from now on.

I don't blame you for taking a swing man. I don't care how old you are, sometimes you got to do what you got to do.