Obama is gonna pack Mile High Stadium

[ZONA]

Just saw on CNN that the Democratic convention speach will be given at Mile High Stadim (Invesco Field). That's probably because if he can get 80K tree huggers on a grassy hill in the NW, he can probably fill Mile High pretty easy. If it were McCain going to Denver,he'd have a hard time filling Casa Bonita..................hahahahahaa.

[rugbythug]

I still don't get the hype for obama. The biggest thing he has ever done is inspire I good Viral Video.

[lizzard123]

I still don't get the hype for obama. The biggest thing he has ever done is inspire I good Viral Video.

So has Mccain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G9jA-FGGd8

[cambrad8085]

Not only are they cursing the Pepsi Center, but now Invesco too? :(

[Atlas]

It'sgoing to be themost exciting convention ever. You'll be able to feel the electricity in the air.

I'm sure there will be some Denver Bronco references too.

[Smiling Assassin27]

I still don't get the hype for obama. The biggest thing he has ever done is inspire I good Viral Video.

Proves that he who can put on the best show wins the consciousness of the nation. Hail the American Idol generation...


"America has a genius for the encouragement of fame." --GK Chesterton

[epicSocialism4tw]

It'sgoing to be themost exciting convention ever. You'll be able to feel the electricity in the air.

I'm sure there will be some Denver Bronco references too.


Weird.

A bunch of people cheering for a guy who has never done anything of note politically...literally done nothing at all...as if he is the one to bring "change"?

One of the oddest times in American political history.

[Dempsey Dog]

Talk about desecration....sad, very sad.


Hopefully he will flip flop and decide not to go to Mile High after he decided to go to Mile High.

[peacepipe]

Talk about desecration....sad, very sad.
Hopefully he will flip flop and decide not to go to Mile High after he decided to go to Mile High.We've been talking about that for almost 8 yrs of GWB being in the whitehouse.
Hey, I'm hoping McCain flip flops again & take a stand against tax cuts.

[Atlas]

I actually wouldn't be too upset if McCain won. He is the most liberal Republican to run for President in my lifetime. That being said Obama is going to kick his ass.

[Flex Gunmetal]

I actually wouldn't be too upset if McCain won. He is the most liberal Republican to run for President in my lifetime. That being said Obama is going to kick his ass.

+1

[epicSocialism4tw]

I actually wouldn't be too upset if McCain won. He is the most liberal Republican to run for President in my lifetime. That being said Obama is going to kick his ass.

I'm not sure...

There is a mindless following of people who are almost hypnotized by his packaged charm.

Once that charm erodes and people begin to think about how unprepared this guy is for the job, they might start thinking again about what theyre getting into. You should be able to see how little prepared he is by the platform he has put forth thus far.

[alkemical]

So what prepares one to be President of the United States?

[Atlas]

I'm not sure...

There is a mindless following of people who are almost hypnotized by his packaged charm.

Once that charm erodes and people begin to think about how unprepared this guy is for the job, they might start thinking again about what theyre getting into. You should be able to see how little prepared he is by the platform he has put forth thus far.

Don't be a hater

[Orange_Beard]

I'm not sure...

There is a mindless following of people who are almost hypnotized by his packaged charm.

Once that charm erodes and people begin to think about how unprepared this guy is for the job, they might start thinking again about what theyre getting into. You should be able to see how little prepared he is by the platform he has put forth thus far.

Bush? Hello? No one could **** up worse then Bush.

[alkemical]

Bush? Hello? No one could **** up worse then Bush.

Don't ever say never....

[Atlas]

Don't ever say never....

Most times I would agree with that...but we are talking about George W. Bush. The worst President in United States history, and it's not even close. Warren Harding is George Washington compared to GW.

[Dempsey Dog]

We've been talking about that for almost 8 yrs of GWB being in the whitehouse.
Hey, I'm hoping McCain flip flops again & take a stand against tax cuts.

Tax cuts, huh? GWB has made mistakes, as all presidents do, but tax cuts was not one of them. Was that a problem when JFK cut taxes?

The problem was that GWB spent like a lib. Libs are always going after the makers in society to redistribute wealth to the takers. What a tragedy that is.

I never met a poor man who gave somebody a job. I have met many rich men who have given somebody a job though. Now if the government would stop adding undue expense burdens, taxes, to business and the wealthy, we could on with letting the market take of our economic woes, which it will always do much more efficiently than government can. Until libs decide to pick up an economics, finance, or business book, they will never understand this.

[Jana®]

Poor Denver. We're being overrun by Dummycrats! I'm going into hiding that weekend.

[alkemical]

Most times I would agree with that...but we are talking about George W. Bush. The worst President in United States history, and it's not even close. Warren Harding is George Washington compared to GW.

Dude, i'm warning you... Don't invoke that beast..... W is sort of like modern art (actually it seems each president is in a way) - it lowers the bar on what is acceptable.

[ColoradoDarin]

a couple of points...

1) GWB > Jimmah (sad but true, I remember the late 70s)

2)Obama = manufactured

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q227/dhaus5650/Obama.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q227/dhaus5650/Obama2.jpg

[longtimer]

Bush? Hello? No one could **** up worse then Bush.

YES their is the name is "OBAMA" :afro:

[epicSocialism4tw]

So what prepares one to be President of the United States?

Just about the opposite of everything that Obama has ever done.

First and foremost, the President has to be business savvy. It is his job to negotiate those waters with an eye on whats best for the constituency at all levels.

[alkemical]

Just about the opposite of everything that Obama has ever done.

First and foremost, the President has to be business savvy. It is his job to negotiate those waters with an eye on whats best for the constituency at all levels.

are you sure you want to keep that? Really really sure? ;D

[alkemical]

a couple of points...

1) GWB > Jimmah (sad but true, I remember the late 70s)

2)Obama = manufactured



Which candidate isn't manufactured?

[epicSocialism4tw]

Second, the President has to have a firm spine for the extremes: war, etc.

Obama has shown to be somewhat spineless.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Which candidate isn't manufactured?

I thought that Obama was different...sincerity, change, all that lofty stuff, right?

[ColoradoDarin]

Which candidate isn't manufactured?

Others have had experience to go along with the marketing.

[Needa Pass Rush]

Obama almost spattered in the heartland.

Obama's plane lands in St. Louis for maintenance

By LIZ SIDOTI – 2 hours ago
ST. LOUIS (AP) — The airplane carrying Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama made a precautionary landing in St. Louis on Monday after the crew had a problem keeping the nose up on takeoff from Chicago.
The plane, an MD-80 Midwest charter, struggled to keep the nose at the necessary angle, as it left for Charlotte, N.C., the pilot said. Later, Midwest Airlines said the problem developed because an emergency slide located in the tail cone of the plane deployed in flight and never threatened the safety of the flight.
Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Laura Brown said the plane did not declare an emergency but "requested a diversion for mechanical issues they called a flight control problem."
After landing, Obama read the paper in the front cabin, but ventured briefly to chat with the press at one point.
"I just thought we'd spice things up a little bit today," Obama joked.
The Illinois senator and a small entourage eventually left the plane to wait out the maintenance at a local hotel; the North Carolina trip was postponed. But he called the Charlotte event to apologize for his absence and summarize his speech on the nation's economic woes. He planned expand on that economic message later to his traveling press corps here in Missouri, a battleground state he hopes to win in the fall.
"I'm so sorry that I'm not down there," Obama said in the telephone call. "We had a little glitch in our plane." He promised to visit Charlotte soon.
Obama had two fundraisers in Atlanta scheduled for Monday evening.
Upon takeoff from Chicago, passengers had felt the plane dip briefly, causing a stomach-rolling sensation like being on a roller coaster, but the unexpected movement didn't alarm the frequent fliers on board.
Later, the pilot said, "We detected a little bit of controllability issue in terms of our ability to control the aircraft in the pitch, which is the nose up and nose down mode," His name was not released in accordance with Midwest policy.
"The autopilot and the aircraft are just fine. As we descended, whatever was inhibiting our ability has now been rectified. However, just for safety purposes we are going to be stopping in St. Louis and making sure that there's nothing binding our controls," he said.
The landing at 9:51 a.m. CDT was normal.
Obama, his staff, the Secret Service entourage and the press sat on the plane for over an hour as it was being checked out at Lambert Airport.
During his visit with reporters, Obama shook his head "no" when asked if he was worried.
"Anytime a pilot says something's not working the way it's supposed to, then you make sure you tighten your seat belt," Obama said. "Everything seemed under control. The pilots knew what they were doing."
Obama's campaign charter hasn't made a precautionary landing before.
"This is a first," he said.

[longtimer]

I thought that Obama was different...sincerity, change, all that lofty stuff, right?


NO, I live in Chicago and know he is just another political hack who can deliver a speech if it written ahead of time.

Example, he wants to reduce taxes on the middle class (but does not define what the middle class is) instead he wants to increase taxes on business. The problem with that is that a business views taxes as a production cost and pass that along to the end consumer with their profit mark up.

This translates into higher costs for the middle class and really hits the poor the hardest because they do not have disposable income to handle the back door tax increase. It is just another way the socialist party ( Democrats’) believe that they know how to better use our money instead of letting Americans do what they do best decide what is best for themselves.

America became great because economic power was not centralized in a government body like the Democrats’ keep trying to achieve.

[Dempsey Dog]

NO, I live in Chicago and know he is just another political hack who can deliver a speech if it written ahead of time.

Example, he wants to reduce taxes on the middle class (but does not define what the middle class is) instead he wants to increase taxes on business. The problem with that is that a business views taxes as a production cost and pass that along to the end consumer with their profit mark up.

This translates into higher costs for the middle class and really hits the poor the hardest because they do not have disposable income to handle the back door tax increase. It is just another way the socialist party ( Democrats’) believe that they know how to better use our money instead of letting Americans do what they do best decide what is best for themselves.

America became great because economic power was not centralized in a government body like the Democrats’ keep trying to achieve.

Well said!! Socialists have no clue how business, economics and the flow of capital work.

[TailgateNut]

YES their is the name is "OBAMA" :afro:


Now, that's some racist ****!

[BroncosinDC]

Obama almost spattered in the heartland.

Obama's plane lands in St. Louis for maintenance

By LIZ SIDOTI – 2 hours ago
ST. LOUIS (AP) — The airplane carrying Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama made a precautionary landing in St. Louis on Monday after the crew had a problem keeping the nose up on takeoff from Chicago.
The plane, an MD-80 Midwest charter, struggled to keep the nose at the necessary angle, as it left for Charlotte, N.C., the pilot said. Later, Midwest Airlines said the problem developed because an emergency slide located in the tail cone of the plane deployed in flight and never threatened the safety of the flight.
Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Laura Brown said the plane did not declare an emergency but "requested a diversion for mechanical issues they called a flight control problem."
After landing, Obama read the paper in the front cabin, but ventured briefly to chat with the press at one point.
"I just thought we'd spice things up a little bit today," Obama joked.
The Illinois senator and a small entourage eventually left the plane to wait out the maintenance at a local hotel; the North Carolina trip was postponed. But he called the Charlotte event to apologize for his absence and summarize his speech on the nation's economic woes. He planned expand on that economic message later to his traveling press corps here in Missouri, a battleground state he hopes to win in the fall.
"I'm so sorry that I'm not down there," Obama said in the telephone call. "We had a little glitch in our plane." He promised to visit Charlotte soon.
Obama had two fundraisers in Atlanta scheduled for Monday evening.
Upon takeoff from Chicago, passengers had felt the plane dip briefly, causing a stomach-rolling sensation like being on a roller coaster, but the unexpected movement didn't alarm the frequent fliers on board.
Later, the pilot said, "We detected a little bit of controllability issue in terms of our ability to control the aircraft in the pitch, which is the nose up and nose down mode," His name was not released in accordance with Midwest policy.
"The autopilot and the aircraft are just fine. As we descended, whatever was inhibiting our ability has now been rectified. However, just for safety purposes we are going to be stopping in St. Louis and making sure that there's nothing binding our controls," he said.
The landing at 9:51 a.m. CDT was normal.
Obama, his staff, the Secret Service entourage and the press sat on the plane for over an hour as it was being checked out at Lambert Airport.
During his visit with reporters, Obama shook his head "no" when asked if he was worried.
"Anytime a pilot says something's not working the way it's supposed to, then you make sure you tighten your seat belt," Obama said. "Everything seemed under control. The pilots knew what they were doing."
Obama's campaign charter hasn't made a precautionary landing before.
"This is a first," he said.

I'd land too ASAP if I was flying an MD-80 with pitch control problems. That's how Air Alaska 261 crashed. In addition the T tail design of the MD-80 doesn't always allow best control depending on the level of pitch.

The MD-80 has an emergency exit on the rear of the plane.

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However there is no way that happened in flight. Interesting so just the slide deployed and caused issues? Time to do some research.

[epicSocialism4tw]

NO, I live in Chicago and know he is just another political hack who can deliver a speech if it written ahead of time.

Example, he wants to reduce taxes on the middle class (but does not define what the middle class is) instead he wants to increase taxes on business. The problem with that is that a business views taxes as a production cost and pass that along to the end consumer with their profit mark up.

This translates into higher costs for the middle class and really hits the poor the hardest because they do not have disposable income to handle the back door tax increase. It is just another way the socialist party ( Democrats’) believe that they know how to better use our money instead of letting Americans do what they do best decide what is best for themselves.

America became great because economic power was not centralized in a government body like the Democrats’ keep trying to achieve.


The role of a public servant (especially THE public servant) is to facilitate beneficial economic, social, and security matters for the populace.

You do not accomplish any of that by making poor business decisions.

[TailgateNut]

Just about the opposite of everything that Obama has ever done.

First and foremost, the President has to be business savvy. It is his job to negotiate those waters with an eye on whats best for the constituency at all levels.


...and GWB was/is business savy, and doing what's best for the country? Stop sniffing that jet fuel!

[Taco John]

I still don't get the hype for obama. The biggest thing he has ever done is inspire I good Viral Video.



He took down the biggest Juggernaut of a political machine that this generation has ever seen in the Clintons. That's about as lofty an accomplishment that anybody could hope to achieve.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Now, that's some racist ****!

It only took 32 posts...lets get it out!

http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/632/racecard5nm.jpg

[epicSocialism4tw]

He took down the biggest Juggernaut of a political machine that this generation has ever seen in the Clintons. That's about as lofty an accomplishment that anybody could hope to achieve.

He took down Hilary, not Bill.

The modern young voter has very little recogniscience of Bill anyhow...that's where Hilary was done in.

[longtimer]

Now, that's some racist ****!

NOT AT ALL!!

The only race I see in this election is the RACE of AMERICANS. (Unless you have proof that Obama is not an American)

Just because clear thinking Americans disagree with Obama on his Socialist agenda, that is not RACIST, It's being OBJECTIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Taco John]

He took down Hilary, not Bill.

The modern young voter has very little recogniscience of Bill anyhow...that's where Hilary was done in.


You didn't need to boost the accomplishment any by throwing the dead weight out if it. "The Clintons" was sufficient.

[Dempsey Dog]

He took down Hilary, not Bill.

The modern young voter has very little recogniscience of Bill anyhow...that's where Hilary was done in.

That was just young naive dems being googly eyed at their new sparkly toy.

[SleepingTiger]

Poor Denver. We're being overrun by Dummycrats! I'm going into hiding that weekend.

so true, good thing i live in Texas

[SoDak Bronco]

Why doesn't he goto Soldier Field, we don't want his ass in milehigh..this sucks..

[longtimer]

The role of a public servant (especially THE public servant) is to facilitate beneficial economic, social, and security matters for the populace.

You do not accomplish any of that by making poor business decisions.

Please tell me what branch of government is RUN like a Good BUSINESS.

Governments are a classic example of how to bankrupt a business they continually make bad business decision.

The only good decision government make is to tax less and let the free market grow the economy.

[Inkana7]

Conservatives are getting so scared of Obama. Their comments about him always make me giggle.

[Dempsey Dog]

Why doesn't he goto Soldier Field, we don't want his ass in milehigh..this sucks..

Soldier Field...no that guy hates the military.

How about Red Square or Tienanmen Square?

[Atlas]

McCain is much too old. He'll probably die in office and another bible thumper like Hucklebee will be President. I wouldn't be able to bear that.

http://themocker.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/mccain_wheelchair.jpg

[longtimer]

Conservatives are getting so scared of Obama. Their comments about him always make me giggle.

No that is not the problem,

The issue is that some of us are old enough to remember Jimmy Carter and Obama is not much different than him except he even less experience.

[Kaylore]

I think it's cool that O'Bama will be accepting his nomination in Denver and in the Broncos ground. The Broncos were the first NFL franchise to start a black QB. Now on the same field they play on, the first black major party nominee will be giving his acceptance speech. I think that's historic. :)

[TailgateNut]

NOT AT ALL!!

The only race I see in this election is the RACE of AMERICANS. (Unless you have proof that Obama is not an American)

Just because clear thinking Americans disagree with Obama on his Socialist agenda, that is not RACIST, It's being OBJECTIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Why the "AFRO"?

You are full of ****, and backpeddling!

[Taco John]

Even though I'm not an Obama voter, I'm kind of happy that this is happening. I'm hoping that this exposure will lead to a Superbowl in Denver.

[TailgateNut]

so true, good thing i live in Texas


Great. Stay the **** there, and while you're at it, call the rest of the village idiots who moved to Colorado and tell them to come home!

[Inkana7]

No that is not the problem,

The issue is that some of us are old enough to remember Jimmy Carter and Obama is not much different than him except he even less experience.

Jimmy Carter had world's more experience governing than Abraham Lincoln. So does Obama.

[SleepingTiger]

...and GWB was/is business savy, and doing what's best for the country? Stop sniffing that jet fuel!

i thought this is about the next president. why are you talking about GWB?

[socalorado]

...and GWB was/is business savy, and doing what's best for the country? Stop sniffing that jet fuel!

As i am reading this, i constantly see the same weird argument being put out there by Obamaniacs.

This comparison to what the US had for the last 8 years. I dont understand that.
Who cares about GWB and his shortcomings. Thats totally irrelevant to the statement.

I see most Obamacons doing this. its sooo strange to me.
Obamacons can never explain why they are voting for Obama, or give me a resume of his accomplishments in his career or his personal life. They only complain that the last guy sucked, so i'm voting for this guy to spite the last guy.

Oh, and BTW, i dont like either of them. McCain is another topic alltogether.

[SleepingTiger]

Great. Stay the **** there, and while you're at it, call the rest of the village idiots who moved to Colorado and tell them to come home!

easy big guy... don't have to be so emotional.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Jimmy Carter had world's more experience governing than Abraham Lincoln. So does Obama.

LOL

[Atlas]

Funny all these idiots weren't running around telling everyone that GW had too little experience to be President. If they did maybe they wouldn't have voted for him and we would have been spared the last 8 years of misery.

These are the same people that was hating on McCain a year ago. HAHAHAHA They can't get behind their canidate so they just gotta hate on Obama.

[Inkana7]

LOL

It's a fact. Look it up.

[24champ]

McCain is much too old. He'll probably die in office and another bible thumper like Hucklebee will be President. I wouldn't be able to bear that.

http://themocker.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/mccain_wheelchair.jpg

http://www.bwog.net/uploads/mccain.jpg

[Kaylore]

As i am reading this, i constantly see the same weird argument being put out there by Obamaniacs.

This comparison to what the US had for the last 8 years. I dont understand that.
Who cares about GWB and his shortcomings. Thats totally irrelevant to the statement.

I see most Obamacons doing this. its sooo strange to me.
Obamacons can never explain why they are voting for Obama, or give me a resume of his accomplishments in his career or his personal life. They only complain that the last guy sucked, so i'm voting for this guy to spite the last guy.

Oh, and BTW, i dont like either of them. McCain is another topic alltogether.

He has no resume, no credentials and all the left has done the last eight years is rip on Bush (much of it was deserved) so they don't have any answers. Their party has become about Bush hating. Look at Tailgate Nut; The guy can't even stay on topic. I maintain that Bush leaving office is going to be worse for the Dems than they want to admit. If O'bama wins the election, and I think we probably will, and then of America's problems don't magically go away it's going to be funny.

I agree, though. McCain is hardly anything to get excited about. I'm probably going third party unless O'Bama taps Hillary as his running mate.

[Atlas]

You realize by reading articles and reading this thread that Obama supporters talk about Obama. McCain supporters talk about Obama. I think that is funny.

[Inkana7]

He has no resume, no credentials and all the left has done the last eight years is rip on Bush (much of it was deserved) so they don't have any answers. Their party has become about Bush hating. I maintain that him leaving office is going to be worse for the Dems than they want to admit. If O'bama wins the election, and I think we probably will, and then of America's problems don't magically go away it's going to be funny.

I agree, though. McCain is hardly anything to get excited about. I'm probably going third party unless O'Bama taps Hillary as his running mate.

Then why vote?

[Atlas]

http://badcartoonist.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/holbert.gif

[Orange_Beard]

George W. Bush, the violent Jimmy Cater.

[Atlas]

Obama is going to shock the world with his V.P. choice.

Can anyone say Colin Powell???

[SleepingTiger]

You realize by reading articles and reading this thread that Obama supporters talk about Obama. McCain supporters talk about Obama. I think that is funny.

actually i see Obama supporters talk about GWB more than anything else

see tailgatenut

[TailgateNut]

Funny all these idiots weren't running around telling everyone that GW had too little experience to be President. If they did maybe they wouldn't have voted for him and we would have been spared the last 8 years of misery.

These are the same people that was hating on McCain a year ago. HAHAHAHA They can't get behind their canidate so they just gotta hate on Obama.


Spot on. I, and a few others on this board saw a disaster in the making, while these mincompoops were all saluting their new fuehrer 8 years ago (although you can't get any of them to admit that they supported the asswipe). Now they come here crying because the tide will change, some of it due to the actions of their hero. Hell, most repukes don't want to be associated with Dumbya. They keep their distance.

The reality is that we have two choices (sorry to the green, independant and other weird folk), and McCain isn't a real choice, he's a continuation!

[longtimer]

Why the "AFRO"?

You are full of ****, and backpeddling!

Not back peddling at all.

It is a way to teach a very important lesson. A picture or a symbol only has the meaning of what the reader gives it. The reader has no idea what the author's view or perception of the picture is, they just assume what is meant as though they can read "MINDS". This happens all the time when you watch the news.

That picture has really no meaning to me. Other than it is a HAIR Style.

[obediah]

Just saw on CNN that the Democratic convention speach will be given at Mile High Stadim (Invesco Field).

Good time and place for the Terrorist that DONT exist to plant weapons of mass destruction that DONT exist. Too bad OSama is friends with all of them and the WMDs are being saved on the attack on Israel.

However McCain better have Casabonita's checked by bomb dogs before he eats his taco. OSama;s buddies would love to take out even the smallest threat....

flame away morons...

Obediah out!

[Dempsey Dog]

So Atlas, what is your misery? What have you, specifically, suffered from due to GWB in the last 8 years? Have you lost your job, had a decline in salary, what?

In all seriousness, the left talks about GWB induced pain and misery as a group, but never in individual terms. What is that for you?


As a side note, this all thread reminds me of a old Charlie Daniels song. I cannot quite it exactly, but basically it says that we might fight amongst ourselves, but if any outsider messes with us, then they better watch out. We Bronc fans stick together, despite our differences.

[24champ]

He has no resume, no credentials and all the left has done the last eight years is rip on Bush (much of it was deserved) so they don't have any answers. Their party has become about Bush hating. Look at Tailgate Nut; The guy can't even stay on topic. I maintain that Bush leaving office is going to be worse for the Dems than they want to admit. If O'bama wins the election, and I think we probably will, and then of America's problems don't magically go away it's going to be funny.

I agree, though. McCain is hardly anything to get excited about. I'm probably going third party unless O'Bama taps Hillary as his running mate.

Yep. Pretty much sums it up. Although I gotta add that the Democrats have been in Charge of congress for awhile and not much has changed...actually things have gotten worse under them.

[Dempsey Dog]

You realize by reading articles and reading this thread that Obama supporters talk about Obama. McCain supporters talk about Obama. I think that is funny.

The whole topic is Obama going to Mile High. Had nothing to do with McCain from the get go.

[longtimer]

You realize by reading articles and reading this thread that Obama supporters talk about Obama. McCain supporters talk about Obama. I think that is funny.

This thread is about Obama not McCain. HUM... maybe that is why we are discussing Obama!

[TailgateNut]

He has no resume, no credentials and all the left has done the last eight years is rip on Bush (much of it was deserved) so they don't have any answers. Their party has become about Bush hating. Look at Tailgate Nut; The guy can't even stay on topic. I maintain that Bush leaving office is going to be worse for the Dems than they want to admit. If O'bama wins the election, and I think we probably will, and then of America's problems don't magically go away it's going to be funny.

I agree, though. McCain is hardly anything to get excited about. I'm probably going third party unless O'Bama taps Hillary as his running mate.


I could always suck on Bushs' left nut like his brainwashed group of followers, like you, Cutt, the Texans and a few select others!

No thanks. I aim my hate at those who betrayed our country by not only placing this asshole in power once, but then, after seeing the incompetence, doing it again.


Cue: "I didn't vote for him"!

[socalorado]

He has no resume, no credentials and all the left has done the last eight years is rip on Bush (much of it was deserved) so they don't have any answers. Their party has become about Bush hating. Look at Tailgate Nut; The guy can't even stay on topic. I maintain that Bush leaving office is going to be worse for the Dems than they want to admit. If O'bama wins the election, and I think we probably will, and then of America's problems don't magically go away it's going to be funny.

I agree, though. McCain is hardly anything to get excited about. I'm probably going third party unless O'Bama taps Hillary as his running mate.

Yeah, i just thinks that its odd, that people would back a guy, no matter how shady he is ( and dont read into that) or how inexperienced he is, and yet they would supposedly support the guy out of a spiteful desperation to try and eek out a win. That sooo weird to me.
And their only argument is " Well, the last guy was a @$$hole!! SO, SO, so i'm voting for this guy!"
Just reeks of desperation.
And that what this always boils down to with this guy called Obama.
So sad as well that this is as good as the dems can do. This guy!?!?
Thats it? Some weird, socialist extreme dude who has no experience and no resume of proven success and thats your guy.!?!?!?
Jeez, the Repubs are on the ropes, tired and beat down, and this is all the Dems have to knock them out??
Would not suprise me at all, if McPain just walks away with the presidency once these 2 get into actual debates.
i have a feeling that Obama can give a great speech, but in a debate, he may be in real trouble.
Again, i am not a supporter of either.
just my 2 cents, guys.

[TailgateNut]

Not back peddling at all.

It is a way to teach a very important lesson. A picture or a symbol only has the meaning of what the reader gives it. The reader has no idea what the author's view or perception of the picture is, they just assume what is meant as though they can read "MINDS". This happens all the time when you watch the news.

That picture has really no meaning to me. Other than it is a HAIR Style.

You ARE Full of ****!

[Orange_Beard]

He has no resume, no credentials and all the left has done the last eight years is rip on Bush (much of it was deserved) so they don't have any answers. Their party has become about Bush hating. Look at Tailgate Nut; The guy can't even stay on topic. I maintain that Bush leaving office is going to be worse for the Dems than they want to admit. If O'bama wins the election, and I think we probably will, and then of America's problems don't magically go away it's going to be funny.

I agree, though. McCain is hardly anything to get excited about. I'm probably going third party unless O'Bama taps Hillary as his running mate.

I guess the shoe is on the other foot. See like only 8 years ago I was saying the same stuff about W.

[SleepingTiger]

You realize by reading articles and reading this thread that Obama supporters talk about Obama. McCain supporters talk about Obama. I think that is funny.

you do bring up a good point. I am scared of Obama and what he might do to this country. i see a guy sitting in a hostel enviorment for year in year out and doesn't say a thing or do anything about it. not only that, he supports it.

at this point, i am taking the lesser of two evils.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Yep. Pretty much sums it up. Although I gotta add that the Democrats have been in Charge of congress for awhile and not much has changed...actually things have gotten worse under them.

Yeah...they talk about levying taxes on oil (can they be this shortsighted as to see that taxing big oil will cause the price to increase?) and have no other solutions for the modern oil crisis given that they will not budge on drilling for the sake of various ecosystems. I'm all for conservation, but sometimes you have to sacrifice. either you vote for your country to survive or you vote to protect yourself from the sad imagery of animals being disturbed.

On that note...

Dems complained incessantly about the Iraq war being about oil. If it was about oil, did Bush and his folks not see this thing coming? Did they not try to be proactive and take care of several problems at once including securing oil for us?

Did the dems not interfere and demand that we hand control of those oilfields over to NATO who could care less if we suffer economically?

[obediah]

I could always suck on Bushs' left nut


Sorry but im not willing to suck anyones left nut...

i think someone has some daddy issues...


Obediah Out!

[Kaylore]

I guess the shoe is on the other foot. See like only 8 years ago I was saying the same stuff about W.

Well we'll see. I think between the two, O'Bama seems to have the purest intentions. I have a feeling it will be Carter part 2, but we'll see.

[epicSocialism4tw]

you do bring up a good point. I am scared of Obama and what he might do to this country. i see a guy sitting in a hostel enviorment for year in year out and doesn't say a thing or do anything about it. not only that, he supports it.

at this point, i am taking the lesser of two evils.

Or you could vote third party.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Well we'll see. I think between the two, O'Bama seems to have the purest intentions. I have a feeling it will be Carter part 2, but we'll see.

Pure intentions?

He's a lawyer and a politician.

That's as dirty as it gets.

[longtimer]

Jimmy Carter had world's more experience governing than Abraham Lincoln. So does Obama.

Let’s see?

He has never run an Executive branch of government.
He has never chaired a committee as a Senator.
HE was part of the corrupt Chicago political machine in Chicago who has the FBI performing sting operation ever two to three years.
He owes his political beginnings to the Rescoe who is being tried for political corruption in IL.

Shall I go on or can you provide me with some positive Experience Obama has for the most powerful position a person can hold on planet earth.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Oh, on the "pure intentions" thing....

Obama is planning a platform to attract religious voters by propagating Bush's Faith-Based Initiative...in which there is a devious little poison pill.

The Initiative includes mandates that the recipient of funds abandon religious instruction or overtones to the programs funded by the initiative.

So, you can get the money if you give up the faith-based aspect of your charity in every domain that receives monies gained through the program.

That's pretty sick.

[SleepingTiger]

I could always suck on Bushs' left nut like his brainwashed group of followers, like you, Cutt, the Texans and a few select others!

No thanks. I aim my hate at those who betrayed our country by not only placing this a-hole in power once, but then, after seeing the incompetence, doing it again.


Cue: "I didn't vote for him"!

so much hate, sounds like you got alot of build up emotions.

[socalorado]

Let’s see?

He has never run an Executive branch of government.
He has never chaired a committee as a Senator.
HE was part of the corrupt Chicago political machine in Chicago who has the FBI performing sting operation ever two to three years.
He owes his political beginnings to the Rescoe who is being tried for political corruption in IL.

Shall I go on or can you provide me with some positive Experience Obama has for the most powerful position a person can hold on planet earth.

Yeah,this is what i am talking about. Obamacons support him and complain about GWB's long laundry list,.... and look!!! OBAMA has a long laundry list and hes not even PRES yet!

These guys are ALL BS artists with their own personal agenda's.
Thats what scary.

[epicSocialism4tw]

so much hate, sounds like you got alot of build up emotions.

He has really bad menstruation periods.

[TailgateNut]

He has really bad menstruation periods.



You making that comment is RICH! You are Yavoon on midol!

[PaintballCLE]

Bush? Hello? No one could **** up worse then Bush.

um carter comes to mind.

[Atlas]

um carter comes to mind.

You weren't even alive when Carter was in office. I'll bet the only thing you know about him is what you have been spoon fed by Rush and FOX Spews.

[Bronco Jamus]

I would like to have one Obama Supporter to give me one good reason to vote for Obama. And don't tell me he's not George Bush and don't tell me McCain is George Bush. Leave the Bush's out of it.

[Atlas]

I would like to have one Obama Supporter to give me one good reason to vote for Obama. And don't tell me he's not George Bush and don't tell me McCain is George Bush. Leave the Bush's out of it.

McCain is so old he could very well die on inaugaration day. His medical history is about as shakey as Cheney's.

There, one reason. That was so ****ing easy.

[rugbythug]

I guess the shoe is on the other foot. See like only 8 years ago I was saying the same stuff about W.

w was a governor of a large state as opposed to a first term senator

[epicSocialism4tw]

I would like to have one Obama Supporter to give me one good reason to vote for Obama. And don't tell me he's not George Bush and don't tell me McCain is George Bush. Leave the Bush's out of it.


The Bush/McCain equivilancies are goofy too...that dude is liberal on so many issues that most repubs are scared of him.

[rugbythug]

McCain is so old he could very well die on inaugaration day. His medical history is about as shakey as Cheney's.

There, one reason. That was so ****ing easy.

wow and so compelling too. Obama should be president because Mccain is mortal.

[obediah]

McCain is so old he could very well die on inaugaration day. His medical history is about as shakey as Cheney's.

There, one reason. That was so ****ing easy.

and you dont think there is a chance OSama will die on inaugaration day?

can you say kkk, hate groups, etc..

that is a stupid reason.

obediah

[Bronco Jamus]

McCain is so old he could very well die on inaugaration day. His medical history is about as shakey as Cheney's.

There, one reason. That was so ****ing easy.

That's not a good reason. He's a former POW. Show him some respect.

Now give me a reason on the issues on the areas of oversight by the executive branch. You've got two areas: Domestic and Foreign Policy

[socalorado]

The Bush/McCain equivilancies are goofy too...that dude is liberal on so many issues that most repubs are scared of him.

NO!Obama's not Liberal! He a socialist. Call a spade a spade. thats what he is.
McPain is a blue democrat! Except for the whole war! RA RA! thing. hes a democrat!

[24champ]

Yeah...they talk about levying taxes on oil (can they be this shortsighted as to see that taxing big oil will cause the price to increase?) and have no other solutions for the modern oil crisis given that they will not budge on drilling for the sake of various ecosystems. I'm all for conservation, but sometimes you have to sacrifice. either you vote for your country to survive or you vote to protect yourself from the sad imagery of animals being disturbed.

Yeah just ask LABF and other Californians if they like the fact the government is taxing them 64 cents per gallon? Now they want to tax oil companies? You can't tax your way out of it.

In the meantime...

Russia doesn't give a flying **** about Caribou or Polar Bears...already looking to drill up there by making Geological surveys and planning. Meanwhile we have our thumbs up our asses...

[longtimer]

Yeah,this is what i am talking about. Obamacons support him and complain about GWB's long laundry list,.... and look!!! OBAMA has a long laundry list and hes not even PRES yet!

These guys are ALL BS artists with their own personal agenda's.
Thats what scary.

Realistically there is not a good choice this time around, but that’s seems to be a four year cycle.

So for me the choice comes down to do I want America to become a Socialist country with a centralize government making my choices for me or do I want my FREEDOM to be accountability to myself and my family and thru my own actions and choices make a better life for my family.

There is never a free ride no matter what a Politian says.

[PaintballCLE]

You weren't even alive when Carter was in office. I'll bet the only thing you know about him is what you have been spoon fed by Rush and FOX Spews.

lol just because i wasn't alive doesnt mean i dont know what a screw up he was. I mean were you arend when lincoln was president?


People seem to forget the economy going down the tubes is CLINTON"S fault. He artificially inflated the US economy to appear to be "booming" then about a year before he left office things were in a downward spiral then. People blam GWB for the economy we have now.....now i agree he sure didn't make things better....but Clinton was the one who started it. When did all the sub-prime lenders come about? Clinton years. When did we ignore all the terroirst activity? Clinton years. When did the US start spoon feeding lazy people who refuse to work by giving them money and starting up every free program known to mankind with moeny they really didn't have? Clinton years.....All i am saying is that before you blame bush for everything....remember that he inherited most of these problems from the Clinton administration.

[socalorado]

McCain is so old he could very well die on inaugaration day. His medical history is about as shakey as Cheney's.

There, one reason. That was so ****ing easy.

Thats not a reason. You seem really, really mad at this stuff.
Stop HATING the old Pres. He done. Move on.
Give us a reason to vote for the guy.

[Meck77]

The democrats in the Supreme Court are responsible for the Eminent Domain abuse sweeping the country.

While Obama does his speech in the stadium I and many others will be conducting the largest Eminent Domain protest yet. You see it's the democrats in the Supreme Court who allowed Eminent Domain abuse to spread like cancer across this country. In fact I'm finding most democrats in power in Colorado support the theft of private property for government development/their own personal development. It's unbelievable how ass backwards the party is on that issue.

[rugbythug]

Bush=Bad President because the Media says so. To me it is very funny how presidents are good or bad based on opinion polls and not some sort of standard that is less fickle than your average UFC fan.

Personally I think Clinton ended up being a Good President. Although only because he got to do nothing that he wanted.
He Passed NAFTA which is good and had welfare reform. Other than that he was busy chasing skirts.

The less effective at passing legislation our central gov't is the better off we all are.

[epicSocialism4tw]

That's not a good reason. He's a former POW. Show him some respect.

Now give me a reason on the issues on the areas of oversight by the executive branch. You've got two areas: Domestic and Foreign Policy

I probably wont vote for the guy, but he has my respect. When he was found out, he was given the option to leave. He chose to stay with his fellow soldiers.

That kind of leadership is definitely worthy of a President.

[PLOWHORSE]

The democrats in the Supreme Court are responsible for the Eminent Domain abuse sweeping the country.

While Obama does his speech in the stadium I will conducting the largest Eminent Domain protest yet. You see it's the democrats in the Supreme Court who allowed Eminent Domain abuse to spread like cancer across this country. In fact I'm finding most democrats in power in Colorado support the theft of private property for government development/their own personal development. It's unbelievable how ass backwards the party is on that issue.

Yeah!! Tailgate at the convention!!!

[Orange_Beard]

Well we'll see. I think between the two, O'Bama seems to have the purest intentions. I have a feeling it will be Carter part 2, but we'll see.

Sorry, the the Bush economy is already worse then the Carter economy.

Bush will go down as the "non-christian" Jimmy Carter.

[Bronco Jamus]

I probably wont vote for the guy, but he has my respect. When he was found out, he was given the option to leave. He chose to stay with his fellow soldiers.

That kind of leadership is definitely worthy of a President.

Absolutely honorable. My vote is still up in the air.

[epicSocialism4tw]

The democrats in the Supreme Court are responsible for the Eminent Domain abuse sweeping the country.

While Obama does his speech in the stadium I and many others will be conducting the largest Eminent Domain protest yet. You see it's the democrats in the Supreme Court who allowed Eminent Domain abuse to spread like cancer across this country. In fact I'm finding most democrats in power in Colorado support the theft of private property for government development/their own personal development. It's unbelievable how ass backwards the party is on that issue.

It's not backwards, its typical of an expansive government.

[rugbythug]

The democrats in the Supreme Court are responsible for the Eminent Domain abuse sweeping the country.

While Obama does his speech in the stadium I and many others will be conducting the largest Eminent Domain protest yet. You see it's the democrats in the Supreme Court who allowed Eminent Domain abuse to spread like cancer across this country. In fact I'm finding most democrats in power in Colorado support the theft of private property for government development/their own personal development. It's unbelievable how ass backwards the party is on that issue.

Blame Reagan for Soudre (SP) What a disappointment that guy is. The abuse of Eminent Domain doesn't effect most people so they don't care about it. Sad

[Bronco Jamus]

Sorry, the the Bush economy is already worse then the Carter economy.

Bush will go down as the "non-christian" Jimmy Carter.

????

In the Bush years I have increased my yearly income 500 percent. I can only hope the next 4 years are just as "bad".

[24champ]

The democrats in the Supreme Court are responsible for the Eminent Domain abuse sweeping the country.

While Obama does his speech in the stadium I and many others will be conducting the largest Eminent Domain protest yet. You see it's the democrats in the Supreme Court who allowed Eminent Domain abuse to spread like cancer across this country. In fact I'm finding most democrats in power in Colorado support the theft of private property for government development/their own personal development. It's unbelievable how ass backwards the party is on that issue.

Infiltrate Mile High Stadium with thousands of Anti-Eminent Domain people posing as Obamacons ...and then go ape **** when Obama speaks. Perfect idea.

[longtimer]

You weren't even alive when Carter was in office. I'll bet the only thing you know about him is what you have been spoon fed by Rush and FOX Spews.

I am and I do remember just how bad Carter screwed this country up. Obama has some of the head in the sand approach to national security as Carter. His understanding of how commerce works is just as pathetic, as he demonstrates with his tax policy.

[rugbythug]

Sorry, the the Bush economy is already worse then the Carter economy.

Bush will go down as the "non-christian" Jimmy Carter.

By what measurement?

[Bronco Jamus]

come on Obamatrons:

Give me a reason on the issues on the areas of oversight by the executive branch to vote for Obama. You've got two areas: Domestic and Foreign Policy. Come on. this should be on the tip of your lips waiting for the world to follow. :)

[Atlas]

That's not a good reason. He's a former POW. Show him some respect.

Now give me a reason on the issues on the areas of oversight by the executive branch. You've got two areas: Domestic and Foreign Policy

Former POW?? WTF does that have to do with his age and all his health problems.

Anyway, why is he a hero? Is it because he was a prisoner of war? I mean thousands of soldiers were prisoners of war. He isn't any more of a hero than them right?

Wouldn't he have been more of a hero if he would have escaped? He got captured and thrown in jail for 5 years. I would say the soldiers that didn't get captured were probably bigger heros than him.

I would say that John Kerry is a much bigger hero. He served three tours while McCain was sitting in prison doing nothing.

[Bronco Jamus]

Former POW?? WTF does that have to do with his age and all his health problems.
.

It means you need to show him the respect you would show any POW. Now I'll read the rest of your post. You're better than that.

[ColoradoDarin]

Sorry, the the Bush economy is already worse then the Carter economy.

Bush will go down as the "non-christian" Jimmy Carter.

Google "Misery index"

Bush > Carter

[SleepingTiger]

where is tailgatenut? he was so emotional and so ready to impose his will on anybody in his way!

[Bronco Jamus]

Anyway, why is he a hero? Is it because he was a prisoner of war? I mean thousands of soldiers were prisoners of war. He isn't any more of a hero than them right?

Wouldn't he have been more of a hero if he would have escaped? He got captured and thrown in jail for 5 years. I would say the soldiers that didn't get captured were probably bigger heros than him.

I would say that John Kerry is a much bigger hero. He served three tours while McCain was sitting in prison doing nothing.

Wow. It got worse. You don't have to be that way.

Now give me a reason.

[Bronco Jamus]

come on Obamatrons:

Give me a reason on the issues on the areas of oversight by the executive branch to vote for Obama. You've got two areas: Domestic and Foreign Policy. Come on. this should be on the tip of your lips waiting for the world to follow. :)

Come on Obamatrons:

Give me a reason on the issues on the areas of oversight by the executive branch to vote for Obama. You've got two areas: Domestic and Foreign Policy. Come on. this should be on the tip of your lips waiting for the world to follow.

I'll check back later.

[TexanBob]

If al-Bama is going to give his speech at Mile High, I hope he does it in a Broncos alternate jersey. Nobody ever wins wearing those things.

[Atlas]

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o20/speardog/1182036204_s.gif

[24champ]

I would say that John Kerry is a much bigger hero.

Ha!

[ColoradoDarin]

Former POW?? WTF does that have to do with his age and all his health problems.

Anyway, why is he a hero? Is it because he was a prisoner of war? I mean thousands of soldiers were prisoners of war. He isn't any more of a hero than them right?

Wouldn't he have been more of a hero if he would have escaped? He got captured and thrown in jail for 5 years. I would say the soldiers that didn't get captured were probably bigger heros than him.

I would say that John Kerry is a much bigger hero. He served three tours while McCain was sitting in prison doing nothing.

You aren't that stupid are you?

When it was found out by his captors that he was the son of an American Admiral, they offered McCain early release from the POW camp hoping to score a propaganda victory (eg "look at how the privileged get better treatment"). McCain turned it down saying that anyone captured before him should be released before him, and then suffered several years more torture.

go read (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_mccain) (yeah Wiki isn't perfect, but it'll do for this purpose)

[obediah]

Former POW?? WTF does that have to do with his age and all his health problems.

Anyway, why is he a hero? Is it because he was a prisoner of war? I mean thousands of soldiers were prisoners of war. He isn't any more of a hero than them right?

Wouldn't he have been more of a hero if he would have escaped? He got captured and thrown in jail for 5 years. I would say the soldiers that didn't get captured were probably bigger heros than him.

I would say that John Kerry is a much bigger hero. He served three tours while McCain was sitting in prison doing nothing.

LOL and we are the brain washed ones.. someone that has no more respect for POWs of any age, race, gender, political view, etc.. should be thrown into the same POW camps that still exist over there in pinko commie land..maybe in exchange for some of our troops still over there?

Wow someone really has watched too much Jane Fonda tv..

I cant believe he just brought up herman munster... what a waste of air. Is there a way to put this guy on ignore so his ignorance doesnt drain into my brain if my eye catches it?

Obediah

[SleepingTiger]

Come on Obamatrons:

Give me a reason on the issues on the areas of oversight by the executive branch to vote for Obama. You've got two areas: Domestic and Foreign Policy. Come on. this should be on the tip of your lips waiting for the world to follow.

I'll check back later.

what is that, the 4th time you asked the Obama supporters this question? where are all the Obama supporters now? Where is tailgatenut?

at least Atlas said something, even though it was totally irrelevant to Obama and ridicules. He at least tried

[TexanBob]

w was a governor of a large state as opposed to a first term senator

...a first-term senator who showed up for work just 143 days before deciding to run for president. That a bit like the trainee at the drive through window deciding he should be running McDonald's. :rofl:

[ColoradoDarin]

what is that, the 4th time you asked the Obama supporters this question? where are all the Obama supporters now? Where is tailgatenut?

at least Atlas said something, even though it was totally irrelevant to Obama and ridicules. He at least tried

They can't because Obama doesn't have any accomplishments that they can point to. He's got "Hope" and "Change" and he's good in front of the TelePrompTer. His superior judgment was supposed to be his selling point, but with his Rev and Bill Ayers associations along with being completely wrong about the "surge" throw that into question. What's left is a good speaker when he's reading from the script.

[TexanBob]

Blame Reagan for Soudre (SP) What a disappointment that guy is.

Souter (the correct spelling) was nominated by Bush 41. Reagan's disappointments were O'Connor and Kennedy.

[alkemical]

Others have had experience to go along with the marketing.

Define experience: Experience in ****ing us over, experience in taking away civil liberties, help me out here....

[Orange_Beard]

????

In the Bush years I have increased my yearly income 500 percent. I can only hope the next 4 years are just as "bad".

I guess it's all about you. I suspected you were a self center "christian" type.

[alkemical]

I thought that Obama was different...sincerity, change, all that lofty stuff, right?

Who the **** are you talking too, seriously.

[obediah]

They can't because Obama doesn't have any accomplishments that they can point to. He's got "Hope" and "Change" and he's good in front of the TelePrompTer. His superior judgment was supposed to be his selling point, but with his Rev and Bill Ayers associations along with being completely wrong about the "surge" throw that into question. What's left is a good speaker when he's reading from the script.

exactlly, and they hate being flamed when they are out numbered, they only like it when they are the majority in the board, they are prolly waiting for their buddies to get back from the welfare office and the protest down town to continue.

Obediah

[alkemical]

...and GWB was/is business savy, and doing what's best for the country? Stop sniffing that jet fuel!

That's what i was setting him up for :)

[alkemical]

Please tell me what branch of government is RUN like a Good BUSINESS.

Governments are a classic example of how to bankrupt a business they continually make bad business decision.

The only good decision government make is to tax less and let the free market grow the economy.

You mean like the bad business decisions that the gov't bailed out some corporations on?

[Orange_Beard]

come on Obamatrons:

Give me a reason on the issues on the areas of oversight by the executive branch to vote for Obama. You've got two areas: Domestic and Foreign Policy. Come on. this should be on the tip of your lips waiting for the world to follow. :)

US foreign policy is completely F-ed up.
Mr. Bush is the laughing stock of the world.

The Old man will continue with the mess Bush started, Obama will change it. That should be simple enough for you.

[longtimer]

Sorry, the the Bush economy is already worse then the Carter economy.

Bush will go down as the "non-christian" Jimmy Carter.

YOU are WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cater left with mortgage rates at around 21%
The highest I remember in the Bush years is around 7%

So GET your FACT straight before you SPEW the socialistic talking points taught by the Democrats’.

[TexanBob]

I am seriously worried about al-Bama's plane though. People that stand in the way of the Clintons have just the worst luck with airplanes.

[SleepingTiger]

US foreign policy is completely F-ed up.
Mr. Bush is the laughing stock of the world.

The Old man will continue with the mess Bush started, Obama will change it. That should be simple enough for you.

And what will Obama do to change the situation we are in now?

[Orange_Beard]

YOU are WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cater left with mortgage rates at around 21%
The highest I remember in the Bush years is around 7%

So GET your FACT straight before you SPEW the socialistic talking points taught by the Democrats’.

When Cater left gas was what a buck? Now it's 5, so stick that in you pipe and smoke it.

Under Cater the Dollar was worth more then Canadian money, For the FIRST TIME EVER IT IS NOT!

Pull your head out.

[alkemical]

I am seriously worried about al-Bama's plane though. People that stand in the way of the Clintons have just the worst luck with airplanes.

Well - Hillary invoked (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/invoke)assassination (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/23/1058940.aspx)--

[longtimer]

US foreign policy is completely F-ed up.
Mr. Bush is the laughing stock of the world.

The Old man will continue with the mess Bush started, Obama will change it. That should be simple enough for you.

Wrong Again!

Bush is not the laughing stock of the world. If that was true then Great Britain, France, Germany would not have thrown out the equivalent part of the USA's Democrats (I>E> Socialist) and replaced them with the Equivalent of the Republican Party (or a conservative approach)

Bush has lead the world to conservative point of view which is what I would expect from a USA president which is to lead and not follow with the word view. That is how America improves the world.

If foreign policy is so screw up then explain why a Canadian university found that since the USA declared war on Terror that worldwide Terrorist attack are down 41%, We must be doing something RIGHT.

Oh that’s right the socialist left does not want to be judge base on their performance but on their intentions.

[Orange_Beard]

And what will Obama do to change the situation we are in now?


Ahhh, watch a speech.

[Orange_Beard]

Wrong Again!

Bush is not the laughing stock of the world. If that was true then Great Britain, France, Germany would not have thrown out the equivalent part of the USA's Democrats (I>E> Socialist) and replaced them with the Equivalent of the Republican Party (or a conservative approach)

Bush has lead the world to conservative point of view which is what I would expect from a USA president which is to lead and not follow with the word view. That is how America improves the world.

If foreign policy is so screw up then explain why a Canadian university found that since the USA declared war on Terror that worldwide Terrorist attack are down 41%, We must be doing something RIGHT.

Oh that’s right the socialist left does not want to be judge base on their performance but on their intentions.


LOL

A Canadian University, nice. I really hope to send my kid to that Canadian University.

This sounds like FOX news "facts"

[alkemical]

down 41% from when? What's the merit and judgment of terror attacks...

[Orange_Beard]

down 41% from when? What's the merit and judgment of terror attacks...

How ****ing dare you question that study done at "Canadian University"

Those guys are SUPER smart.

[alkemical]

How ****ing dare you question that study done at "Canadian University"

Those guys are SUPER smart.

What are you talkin' aboot, eh?!? They are north, of course they are smarter!

[SleepingTiger]

When Cater left gas was what a buck? Now it's 5, so stick that in you pipe and smoke it.

Under Cater the Dollar was worth more then Canadian money, For the FIRST TIME EVER IT IS NOT!

Pull your head out.

LMAO Hilarious! LOL you cant be ****in serious!

you compare gas prices in the late 70's with now?

i guess GWB is the blame for price of, milk, theater tickets, housing or basically anything that prices raised on since the Carter days! LMAO

I guess with good old Obama in office, gas price will drop back down to a dollar like the Carter days. So will price in milk, food, energy.....

i hate flaming on the mane, but i will make you an exception. you are a ****ing moron that has his head so far up his ass, that you are ****ting and eating at the same time.

[SleepingTiger]

Ahhh, watch a speech.

i insist on you telling me. since you are such an Obama backer, tell me why you like him so much.

[Orange_Beard]

LMAO Hilarious! LOL you cant be ****in serious!

you compare gas prices in the late 70's with now?

i guess GWB is the blame for price of, milk, theater tickets, housing or basically anything that prices raised on since the Carter days! LMAO

I guess with good old Obama in office, gas price will drop back down to a dollar like the Carter days. So will price in milk, food, energy.....

i hate flaming on the mane, but i will make you an exception. you are a ****ing moron that has his head so far up his ass, that you are ****ting and eating at the same time.


Well it was Carter's fault.

[epicSocialism4tw]

i insist on you telling me. since you are such an Obama backer, tell me why you like him so much.


I have yet to get a straight answer from an Obamazombie.

Its always "uhhhhhhh.....mmmm....chaaaaaaange...." or "mmmmmm.....hoooooooope"

[Bronco Jamus]

Funny. The reason to vote for Obama is that he isn't George Bush, or the McCain is George Bush.

I'll ask again: Why should I vote for Obama in the areas of Foreign or Domestic Policy? Give me one good reason. I am starting to think Obama supporters can't.

[Bronco Jamus]

I guess it's all about you. I suspected you were a self center "christian" type.

I am far from the only one.

[Needa Pass Rush]

Obama is going to shock the world with his V.P. choice.

Can anyone say Colin Powell???

There is less then a one percent chance Powell gets the call. Alma has spoken. Besides, ask the Libs... we NEED diversity! ;D

[longtimer]

When Cater left gas was what a buck? Now it's 5, so stick that in you pipe and smoke it.

Under Cater the Dollar was worth more then Canadian money, For the FIRST TIME EVER IT IS NOT!

Pull your head out.


When Carter was president India and China where not industrialized and needed oil to run their countries; So the reason gas prices are so high is that there is more demand than supply and the democrats will not let domestic drilling for oil happening. Also if I remember correctly when Carter started gas was around 60 cents a gallon and when he left it had doubled.

The value of the dollar is the result of congress spending too much US cash on things like social programs not the war on terror. Social programs account for more than 40% of the US budget while the war on terror is less than 5%.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ef/Fy2008spendingbycategory.png


The value of the Dollar will correct it's self when the spending gets under control.

[CBF1]

I just hope they can clean up the mess afterwards and get the stench out of the stadium before I come out for Orangemane weekend.

[longtimer]

LOL

A Canadian University, nice. I really hope to send my kid to that Canadian University.

This sounds like FOX news "facts"

No, I used a Canadian source because they are more liberal in their view points and more likely to agree with how a democrat would think, just trying to give the liberal every chance to make a valid point.

[longtimer]

Funny. The reason to vote for Obama is that he isn't George Bush, or the McCain is George Bush.

I'll ask again: Why should I vote for Obama in the areas of Foreign or Domestic Policy? Give me one good reason. I am starting to think Obama supporters can't.

So far the reason they give is a good reason to vote for McCain. And I not thrilled by him.

[Bronco Jamus]

So far the reason they give is a good reason to vote for McCain. And I not thrilled by him.

He's not the best choice either. I keep going back and forth. From a tax perspective Obama's plan would hurt me both professionally and personally. At this point I almost have to wait until the get face to face. Its unfortunate Obama will not agree to townhall meetings/debates with McCain at this time.

the funny thing is I ask them to give me a reason to vote for Obama, and all they give me is what I asked them not to give:

Obama isn't George Bush and McCain is George Bush. They are correct that Obama isn't George Bush and they are wrong that McCain is George Bush.

[Needa Pass Rush]

US foreign policy is completely F-ed up.
Mr. Bush is the laughing stock of the world.
The Old man will continue with the mess Bush started, Obama will change it. That should be simple enough for you.

Excellent. He will be taking "conditon-less" kumbaya's with Ahmadinejad while he still hasn't even spoken to General "BetrayUs". The writing is on the wall for what Obama's foreign policy will look like. Not good for anyone living in the 50 great states of America.

[peacepipe]

Oh, on the "pure intentions" thing....

Obama is planning a platform to attract religious voters by propagating Bush's Faith-Based Initiative...in which there is a devious little poison pill.

The Initiative includes mandates that the recipient of funds abandon religious instruction or overtones to the programs funded by the initiative.

So, you can get the money if you give up the faith-based aspect of your charity in every domain that receives monies gained through the program.
That's pretty sick.Oh please, this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read. you can't recieve federal money if you discriminate in the hiring process.

[Orange_Beard]

I am far from the only one.

If that makes you feel good about yourself. Just stop with the church crap.

[Orange_Beard]

No, I used a Canadian source because they are more liberal in their view points and more likely to agree with how a democrat would think, just trying to give the liberal every chance to make a valid point.

First of all I am not a democrat. Just because Bush is the WORST president the US has ever had does not make me a liberal.


and by the way there is no source you dink.

[longtimer]

He's not the best choice either. I keep going back and forth. From a tax perspective Obama's plan would hurt me both professionally and personally. At this point I almost have to wait until the get face to face. Its unfortunate Obama will not agree to townhall meetings/debates with McCain at this time.

the funny thing is I ask them to give me a reason to vote for Obama, and all they give me is what I asked them not to give:

Obama isn't George Bush and McCain is George Bush. They are correct that Obama isn't George Bush and they are wrong that McCain is George Bush.

Why are you going back and forth?

I see it like this:

1 The president’s Job is the commander and chief, which candidate will protect the USA the BEST?

2 The president has the ability to force congress to over ride his disapproval of spending thru the use of the Veto, which candidate has a proven track record of voting against pork barrel spending? (this was Bushes down fall for the better part of six years he did not veto pork barrel spending)

There are other issues but these two seem to be the biggest.

Item number two will get the economy rolling again and increase the value of the dollar.

Item one, will determine if we continue to fight the war on terror on foreign soil or we face fighting it on American soil if we run and hide the terrorist will think we are weak and bring the fight to America here at home.

We have only lost this war in the media not on the battle fields just like in Vietnam.

[longtimer]

There is no source you dink.

I will dig it up but it will take me a while since I read it a few month back.

[TailgateNut]

I am far from the only one.


That seems to be the problem. You dumb**** bible thumping idiots put the current a-hole in the WH. May you all rot in HELL!

Now to answer your stupid ass question.

1. He refuses to be bought and paid for by special interests.

although #1 is enough for me, here's another;

2. He will rescind tax cuts for corporations and ueber wealthy

3. He will cut taxes on the middle class (the same middle class which IS the backbone of this country) which is struggling to make ends meet. This will restore some consumer confidence, which we desperately need.

4. He will listen to advisors and not wage war without exhausting all avenues of diplomacy (something the little warmongering b**** didn't ever consider)

5. He will weed out the lobbyist swine which stink up every branch of the goverment.

6. He can speak english (something which should be a requirement for the office of the president of the US)



Gotta go check on my wings.......

[longtimer]

I will dig it up but it will take me a while since I read it a few month back.

This is for you Orange_Beard

The link you ask for

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/05/terrorist-attacks-decline-40-during.html

[Orange_Beard]

When Carter was president India and China where not industrialized and needed oil to run their countries; So the reason gas prices are so high is that there is more demand than supply and the democrats will not let domestic drilling for oil happening. Also if I remember correctly when Carter started gas was around 60 cents a gallon and when he left it had doubled.

The value of the dollar is the result of congress spending too much US cash on things like social programs not the war on terror. Social programs account for more than 40% of the US budget while the war on terror is less than 5%.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ef/Fy2008spendingbycategory.png


The value of the Dollar will correct it's self when the spending gets under control.

So you admit there is a Jimmy Carter comparison. Gas also doubled under Bush.
You also forget that Bush had 6 years of republican majority. What did he do about spending? Aaaahhh, Nothing.

I also forgot to mention that we have the worst housing market since WW2.

[TailgateNut]

Funny. The reason to vote for Obama is that he isn't George Bush, or the McCain is George Bush.

I'll ask again: Why should I vote for Obama in the areas of Foreign or Domestic Policy? Give me one good reason. I am starting to think Obama supporters can't.


Hey, why don't you give a some positives about the Prehistoric candidate.
You are as annoying as a street whore on Colfax.

[Orange_Beard]

This is for you Orange_Beard

The link you ask for

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/05/terrorist-attacks-decline-40-during.html

Simon Fraser University? What is that?

Is this the school where Ward Churchill is teaching next?

A leading expert From Orange_Beard College says that terrorism has ended and that Anne-Nichole Smith is the not really dead.

[longtimer]

So you admit there is a Jimmy Carter comparison. Gas also doubled under Bush.
You also forget that Bush had 6 years of republican majority. What did he do about spending? Aaaahhh, Nothing.

I also forgot to mention that we have the worst housing market since WW2.

I never said that Bush did do a good job of controlling pork barrel spending.

He did however greatly increase revenue for the federal government with the tax cuts.

There is no comparison on gas because of the different demands on oil with over 2 billion more people needing the resource today than when Cater was in office. Carter use price fixing to try to correct the issue and that’s what caused the issue. Bush cannot control how many other countries such as china and India will pay for oil since it is sold on the world market place.

[longtimer]

First of all I am not a democrat. Just because Bush is the WORST president the US has ever had does not make me a liberal.


and by the way there is no source you dink.

I never said you were a Democrat and the worst President in my life time was Jimmy Carter.

[obediah]

If that makes you feel good about yourself. Just stop with the church crap.

im about sick of you rebellious little ****s telling me i do not have a right to speak of my beliefs if they have anything to do with God! you little atheist cry babbies need to get over it for one, second you bleeding hearts love to allow everyone else to spew crap about this country and everything else in the world, in fact you fight for it, well stupid you have fought for my right to bring up church crap whenever i feel like it! so suck it up whiner ill speak of whatever i choose when i choose it...

Obediah Out!

[longtimer]

Simon Fraser University? What is that?

Is this the school where Ward Churchill is teaching next?

A leading expert From Orange_Beard College says that terrorism has ended and that Anne-Nichole Smith is the not really dead.

It is a valid as any other study, the result are only as good as the data collected since I do not have access to the raw data it is hard to determine the validity of the report. But it does seem to find an interesting point of view that the main stream press always ignore good news on the war on terror.

[TailgateNut]

im about sick of you rebellious little ****s telling me i do not have a right to speak of my beliefs if they have anything to do with God! you little atheist cry babbies need to get over it for one, second you bleeding hearts love to allow everyone else to spew crap about this country and everything else in the world, in fact you fight for it, well stupid you have fought for my right to bring up church crap whenever i feel like it! so suck it up whiner ill speak of whatever i choose when i choose it...

Obediah Out!


is that "obediah out" for good? If it is, take you damn bible with you!

[obediah]

nope my bible and myself are here to stay whiner. and as for us bible thumpers burning in hell.. i hope you learn that my salvation is nothing you should concern yourselt with. i sure as hell dont concern myself what happens to you when you die. it amazes me you would care one way or another, i mean does that mean you believe in heaven/hell?

Obediah Out, for a bit!

[TailgateNut]

nope my bible and myself are here to stay whiner. and as for us bible thumpers burning in hell.. i hope you learn that my salvation is nothing you should concern yourselt with. i sure as hell dont concern myself what happens to you when you die. it amazes me you would care one way or another, i mean does that mean you believe in heaven/hell?

Obediah Out, for a bit!

Salvation?:rofl:

[obediah]

im sorry i didnt know you couldnt answer a question. and if you would like a link to dictionary.com to look up the word salvation i guess i can get it for you, its a word us bible thumpers use. Sorry should have kept it more simple for ya.

Obediah Out!

[TailgateNut]

im sorry i didnt know you couldnt answer a question. and if you would like a link to dictionary.com to look up the word salvation i guess i can get it for you, its a word us bible thumpers use. Sorry should have kept it more simple for ya.

Obediah Out!


Salvation. Is that the type of lotion religious nuts use to treat the rash the get after molesting children?

[Pseudofool]

I nominate this thread for Most Moron Posters in a Single Thread contest.

[ZONA]

You know what's a joke? Just a month ago McCain was slamming Obama for his position on wanting to open up communication channels with anyone who wants to talk. McCain made it perfectly clear that he disagrees with it and that it's "inexperience" on Obama's part. So here were are, talks with "The Axis Of Evil" North Korea have led to them giving up on their Nuk program.............. Hilarious! Hilarious!

But we knew McCain would not want to talk with those countries. It's always possible for things to be worked out diplomatically and that's not good in the eyes of a war monger. Before long, there might not be any countries to go bomb for no reason.................lol.

McCain just showed the world that he really DOESN'T know what it takes to lead a nation and the only experience he has is getting shot down in an airplane. It's proving itself to be the case that indeed, Obama has more common sense in his pinky then McCain has in his whole body.

Why anybody would want to vote for McCain I don't know. He has the balls to talk about being a PATRIOT and yet the people he takes money from are the ones working with terrorists (who kill Americans).

Charlie Black, McCain’s senior counsel and spokesman, began his lobbying career by representing numerous dictators and repressive regimes

Black’s firm represented the governor of Philippines dictator Ferdinand Marcos. According to a 1985 report, the firm Black, Manafort & Stone earned $950,000 plus expenses for its work to provide “advice and assistance on matters relating to the media, public relations and public affairs interests.”1
Black’s firm lobbied on behalf of Mobuto Sese Seko of Zaire, earning $1 million a year for his efforts.2
Black’s firm lobbied on behalf of Somali dictator Mohamed Siad Barre.3
Black’s firm represented Nigerian dictator Ibrahim Babangida, earning at least $1 million for his efforts.4
Black’s firm has represented Equatorial Guinea, an oil-rich state “best known for the outlandish brutality of its rulers.”5
Black represented Angolan rebel and “classical terrorist” Jonas Savimbi, a job that earned him $600,000.6 “We have to call him Africa’s classical terrorist,” Makau Mutua, a professor of law and Africa specialist told the New York Times. “In the history of the continent, I think he’s unique because of the degree of suffering he caused without showing any remorse.”7
In recent years his client list has also included the Iraqi National Congress8, Blackwater9, and the China National Off-Shore Oil Corp.10
Since 2005, BKSH has received more than $700,000 in fees from foreign entities.11
Thomas Loeffler, co-chairman of McCain’s campaign, has represented the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia RESIGNED: Click here

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia paid the Loeffler Group “a whopping $7.9 million from December 1, 2005, though November 2006 -- the largest fee collected from a foreign government by any lobbying firm in 2006,” according to National Journal.12 The Washington Times reported that “Mr. Loeffler's firm has received more than $10 million since 2006 from the Saudi Embassy and the Ministry of Commerce & Industry of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.”13 Much of this work was centered on gaining admission for the Kingdom to the World Trade Organization.14
Since 2005, according to the Washington Times, “the Loeffler Group reported more than $11 million in fees from foreign lobbying clients.”15
Peter Madigan, a leading McCain fundraiser, lobbies on behalf of the king of Dubai

Madigan has earned upwards of $800,000 to improve the United Arab Emirates’ reputation in the face of a class action lawsuit over the enslavement of boy camel jockeys.16


F U C JOHN MCCAIN

[Bronco Jamus]

Why are you going back and forth?

I see it like this:

1 The president’s Job is the commander and chief, which candidate will protect the USA the BEST?

2 The president has the ability to force congress to over ride his disapproval of spending thru the use of the Veto, which candidate has a proven track record of voting against pork barrel spending? (this was Bushes down fall for the better part of six years he did not veto pork barrel spending)

There are other issues but these two seem to be the biggest.

Item number two will get the economy rolling again and increase the value of the dollar.

Item one, will determine if we continue to fight the war on terror on foreign soil or we face fighting it on American soil if we run and hide the terrorist will think we are weak and bring the fight to America here at home.

We have only lost this war in the media not on the battle fields just like in Vietnam.

John McCain would diffenately be the better fit from a military perspective, but from a domestic perspective there is a bunch of confidence around Obama. Confidence is key.

[Bronco Jamus]

I nominate this thread for Most Moron Posters in a Single Thread contest.

Well. Welcome to the moron party. :)

Answer the question.

[TailgateNut]

John McCain would diffenately be the better fit from a military perspective, but from a domestic perspective there is a bunch of confidence around Obama. Confidence is key.


Good post, BUT, how would he be better from a military perspective? He could go off on another tangient as soon as he hears the jingling of a set of keys.

[TailgateNut]

Well. Welcome to the moron party. :)

.


We always knew you would be the perfect host.

[Bronco Jamus]

Good post, BUT, how would he be better from a military perspective? He could go off on another tangient as soon as he hears the jingling of a set of keys.

First and foremost he has ground level experience, and he's been a leader as a Senator. Even if we disagree with some of his politics, he's got experience leading an organization at a high level of government for a long time.

[Bronco Jamus]

We always knew you would be the perfect host.

Thanks. It's your turn to speak.

[TailgateNut]

First and foremost he has ground level experience, and he's been a leader as a Senator. Even if we disagree with some of his politics, he's got experience leading an organization at a high level of government for a long time.

He needs to be tested for PTSD before I'd even consider him. I know and in some cases knew quite a few Vietnam vets, and although I respect them as much, if not more than other vets, those who were exposed to the real horrors have underlying problems which they will carry to their graves.

Sorry, but that's the horrible truth,. like it, or not.

[Spider]

reading the republicans post on this makes me wish we had a ****ing Gitmo for their stupid asses

[BroncoBuff]

This clinches it then. If you're a Broncos fan, you must vote for Obama.

[socalorado]

You know what's a joke? Just a month ago McCain was slamming Obama for his position on wanting to open up communication channels with anyone who wants to talk. McCain made it perfectly clear that he disagrees with it and that it's "inexperience" on Obama's part. So here were are, talks with "The Axis Of Evil" North Korea have led to them giving up on their Nuk program.............. Hilarious! Hilarious!

But we knew McCain would not want to talk with those countries. It's always possible for things to be worked out diplomatically and that's not good in the eyes of a war monger. Before long, there might not be any countries to go bomb for no reason.................lol.

McCain just showed the world that he really DOESN'T know what it takes to lead a nation and the only experience he has is getting shot down in an airplane. It's proving itself to be the case that indeed, Obama has more common sense in his pinky then McCain has in his whole body.

Why anybody would want to vote for McCain I don't know. He has the balls to talk about being a PATRIOT and yet the people he takes money from are the ones working with terrorists (who kill Americans).

Charlie Black, McCain’s senior counsel and spokesman, began his lobbying career by representing numerous dictators and repressive regimes

Black’s firm represented the governor of Philippines dictator Ferdinand Marcos. According to a 1985 report, the firm Black, Manafort & Stone earned $950,000 plus expenses for its work to provide “advice and assistance on matters relating to the media, public relations and public affairs interests.”1
Black’s firm lobbied on behalf of Mobuto Sese Seko of Zaire, earning $1 million a year for his efforts.2
Black’s firm lobbied on behalf of Somali dictator Mohamed Siad Barre.3
Black’s firm represented Nigerian dictator Ibrahim Babangida, earning at least $1 million for his efforts.4
Black’s firm has represented Equatorial Guinea, an oil-rich state “best known for the outlandish brutality of its rulers.”5
Black represented Angolan rebel and “classical terrorist” Jonas Savimbi, a job that earned him $600,000.6 “We have to call him Africa’s classical terrorist,” Makau Mutua, a professor of law and Africa specialist told the New York Times. “In the history of the continent, I think he’s unique because of the degree of suffering he caused without showing any remorse.”7
In recent years his client list has also included the Iraqi National Congress8, Blackwater9, and the China National Off-Shore Oil Corp.10
Since 2005, BKSH has received more than $700,000 in fees from foreign entities.11
Thomas Loeffler, co-chairman of McCain’s campaign, has represented the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia RESIGNED: Click here

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia paid the Loeffler Group “a whopping $7.9 million from December 1, 2005, though November 2006 -- the largest fee collected from a foreign government by any lobbying firm in 2006,” according to National Journal.12 The Washington Times reported that “Mr. Loeffler's firm has received more than $10 million since 2006 from the Saudi Embassy and the Ministry of Commerce & Industry of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.”13 Much of this work was centered on gaining admission for the Kingdom to the World Trade Organization.14
Since 2005, according to the Washington Times, “the Loeffler Group reported more than $11 million in fees from foreign lobbying clients.”15
Peter Madigan, a leading McCain fundraiser, lobbies on behalf of the king of Dubai

Madigan has earned upwards of $800,000 to improve the United Arab Emirates’ reputation in the face of a class action lawsuit over the enslavement of boy camel jockeys.16


F U C JOHN MCCAIN

8 pages in, and NO ONE can explain why any of us should vote for Obama.
Not 1.
Lots of F JMcCain, but nothing on Barak. Huh.
DISCLAIMER: Please dont use the lame ass "cause hes not Bush II crap. or McPain is too old, cause if thats all you got, jeez, this is a joke.

[epicSocialism4tw]

So you admit there is a Jimmy Carter comparison. Gas also doubled under Bush.
You also forget that Bush had 6 years of republican majority. What did he do about spending? Aaaahhh, Nothing.

I also forgot to mention that we have the worst housing market since WW2.

See, here's the funny thing...

Bush spent most of his time picking up the pieces after the most devastating domestic attack in the history of the US. We seem to easily forget that the nation's economic hub and all of the information in it was destroyed completely in the matter of a few hours...and in the subsequent months Americans were certainly derailed from the normal economic behaviors that had been the norm.

Bush was the President during a very bad time.

What's Carter's excuse?

[bronco militia]

This clinches it then. If you're a Broncos fan, you must vote for Obama.

congrats:

the dumbest post yet :giggle:

[Spider]

See, here's the funny thing...

Bush spent most of his time picking up the pieces after the most devastating domestic attack in the history of the US. We seem to easily forget that the nation's economic hub and all of the information in it was destroyed completely in the matter of a few hours...and in the subsequent months Americans were certainly derailed from the normal economic behaviors that had been the norm.

Bush was the President during a very bad time.

What's Carter's excuse?
Give it a rest ....seriously , under Bush government has grown almost 60 % in size , Carter had the after mess of Nam .........if you are going to post , at least try and know what in the **** you are babbling about

[bronco militia]

anyway, I know a Denver cop who has been training for convention security for the last three months:

at the Pepsi Center!

what a logistical nightmare

but hey, anything for change we can believe in!

bwahaha

[epicSocialism4tw]

Give it a rest ....seriously , under Bush government has grown almost 60 % in size , Carter had the after mess of Nam .........if you are going to post , at least try and know what in the **** you are babbling about

The "after mess of Nam"?

That is in some way comparable to 9/11: the striking of the world's economic wheelhouse on a full-swing common workday and freezing the nation in fear for 3 years?

Then following that, conquering 2 nations successively and maintaining a war against a virtually invisible enemy for the better part of 7 years?

I thought that this was "Nam" to people of your ilk?

Wierd science.

[Spider]

anyway, I know a Denver cop who has been training for convention security for the last three months:

at the Pepsi Center!

what a logistical nightmare

but hey, anything for change we can believe in!

bwahaha

then ****ing stay home ...... vote for McSame .......Mcsame needs all the id....err help he can get

[epicSocialism4tw]

Look, I'm as disappointed in Bush as the next guy, but get some perspective.

[Spider]

The "after mess of Nam"?

That is in some way comparable to 9/11: the striking of the world's economic wheelhouse on a full-swing common workday and freezing the nation in fear for 3 years?

Then following that, conquering 2 nations successively and maintaining a war against a virtually invisible enemy for the better part of 7 years?

I thought that this was "Nam" to people of your ilk?

Wierd science.

look dumbass , 50 K americans died in that war ,Nam cost us alot Carter didnt get us in Nam , Bush got us into Iraq ...... I love how you left that off .....McSame needs all the dumb asses he can get to vote for his ass ..... Slip on your kneee pads and get busy

[bronco militia]

then ****ing stay home ...... vote for McSame .......Mcsame needs all the id....err help he can get

I'm just worried one of you pinko liberal scum will leave your stink on my seats.

Ha! .

[Spider]

Look, I'm as disappointed in Bush as the next guy, but get some perspective.

Bull**** ........ you was one of the Bush nut swingers for a long time

[epicSocialism4tw]

look dumbass , 50 K americans died in that war ,Nam cost us alot Carter didnt get us in Nam , Bush got us into Iraq ...... I love how you left that off .....McSame needs all the dumb asses he can get to vote for his ass ..... Slip on your kneee pads and get busy

I thought that Bush went into Iraq for the oil? Do you believe that to be true?

[socalorado]

look dumbass , 50 K americans died in that war ,Nam cost us alot Carter didnt get us in Nam , Bush got us into Iraq ...... I love how you left that off .....McSame needs all the dumb asses he can get to vote for his ass ..... Slip on your kneee pads and get busy

Easy tiger, easy....

[Spider]

I'm just worried one of you pinko liberal scum will leave your stink on my seats.

Ha! .
Since when is a janitor worried about a clean up ?

[Spider]

I thought that Bush went into Iraq for the oil? Do you believe that to be true?

what in the **** are you babbling about .......Let me break it down for you ... Carter didnt put us in Nam ........Bush went into Iraq .....what in the hell does it matter the reasons ?

[bronco militia]

Since when is a janitor worried about a clean up ?

I don't sit in the cheap seats with Tailgate ;D

[Spider]

Easy tiger, easy....

I got your easy right here

[Spider]

I don't sit with Tailgate ;D

LOL . that would be something though

[epicSocialism4tw]

what in the **** are you babbling about .......Let me break it down for you ... Carter didnt put us in Nam ........Bush went into Iraq .....what in the hell does it matter the reasons ?

I hope that you are too busy trucking to vote. ;D

[bronco militia]

I hope that you are too busy trucking to vote. ;D


either way, a Democrat will be in office the next 4 years.

[Spider]

I hope that you are too busy trucking to vote. ;D

LOL not a chance ..... I already told dan I was voting , and voting Democrat

[epicSocialism4tw]

either way, a Democrat will be in office the next 4 years.


That's true: McCain slightly left...Obama waaaaaaay (outer space) left

[Spider]

well good night republican scum ...I got a big day tomorrow .......we are just about done hauling dirt and rocks off , and will be hauling dirt in from Guernsy Wyoming ........;D

[TheDave]

I get too busy to post for a little while and... well... nothing changed

Carry on.

[baja]

Good post, BUT, how would he be better from a military perspective? He could<B> go off on another tangient as soon as he hears the jingling of a set of keys.

Very mean but funny as hell I lmao.

[ZONA]

What has John McCain ever done as far as leading and making good sound military judgement for this country? I am so sick of hearing he's the guy who would be best to run the military. WTF? Why? Cuz he was in the military oh I don't know, when George Washington was around. 5 Star General Clark has looked into his military background very deeply and has seen nothing impresive. The only pub McCain has is that he was a POW. BFD. There are 3 Americans who just returned from Columbia who were POW's for 5 years, should we nominate them for president? McCain voted for war against IRAQ and if we could roll back the clock 8 years knowing what we know now, he's so stupid, he would vote the same way again. For god sake, we can't even afford to be in Iraq. What was that number again, 20 billion a month or something. We're not even paying for it. We have to borrow from China to go to war. That's sad. McCain want to drill for oil off shore and build nuclear plants.............that's not only not gonna do anything for 10 years from now, 10 years from now, we should be close to bigger and better goals that are more viewed to the future, such as solar, bio, etc... We would be making a huge mistake to invest in those things (off shore drilling and nuclear). And.......offshore drilling is a crap shoot. They can't even make a good guess if there was an oil deposit big enough to justify the cost of drilling. But McCain doesn't think so I guess. McCain is just a face. He doesn't have any real ambition to change anything. He just wants to keep everything the way it is and play war and to say he was president before he dies. I don't see any true passion in his speaches at all. He's a telepromtor reading Bush policy puppet.

[24champ]

I get too busy to post for a little while and... well... nothing changed

Carry on.

I figured you were spending your time at the SausageMane.Com board...

[TailgateNut]

8 pages in, and NO ONE can explain why any of us should vote for Obama.
Not 1.
Lots of F JMcCain, but nothing on Barak. Huh.
DISCLAIMER: Please dont use the lame ass "cause hes not Bush II crap. or McPain is too old, cause if thats all you got, jeez, this is a joke.


Maybe you should take the time to read, instead of just running your mouth.

BTW: what are McStains positives?

[TheDave]

I figured you were spending your time at the SausageMane.Com board...

They banned me... ROFL!

[TailgateNut]

The "after mess of Nam"?

That is in some way comparable to 9/11: the striking of the world's economic wheelhouse on a full-swing common workday and freezing the nation in fear for 3 years?

Then following that, conquering 2 nations successively and maintaining a war against a virtually invisible enemy for the better part of 7 years?

I thought that this was "Nam" to people of your ilk?

Wierd science.


Conquering 2 nationsHilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!

You ****ing Texans all have a serious comprehension problem.

[TailgateNut]

I don't sit in the cheap seats with Tailgate ;D

:spit:

[epicSocialism4tw]

Conquering 2 nations
You ****ing Texans all have a serious comprehension problem.

So the nations of Afghanistan and Iraq are still standing and holding a united front against the US?

[TailgateNut]

Very mean but funny as hell I lmao.


You get my drift? Eh?;D

[TheDave]

So the nations of Afghanistan and Iraq are still standing and holding a united front against the US?

Come on... Thats like bragging that the Broncos kicked ass at the special olympics.

[TailgateNut]

What has John McCain ever done as far as leading and making good sound military judgement for this country? I am so sick of hearing he's the guy who would be best to run the military. WTF? Why? Cuz he was in the military oh I don't know, when George Washington was around. 5 Star General Clark has looked into his military background very deeply and has seen nothing impresive. The only pub McCain has is that he was a POW. BFD. There are 3 Americans who just returned from Columbia who were POW's for 5 years, should we nominate them for president? McCain voted for war against IRAQ and if we could roll back the clock 8 years knowing what we know now, he's so stupid, he would vote the same way again. For god sake, we can't even afford to be in Iraq. What was that number again, 20 billion a month or something. We're not even paying for it. We have to borrow from China to go to war. That's sad. McCain want to drill for oil off shore and build nuclear plants.............that's not only not gonna do anything for 10 years from now, 10 years from now, we should be close to bigger and better goals that are more viewed to the future, such as solar, bio, etc... We would be making a huge mistake to invest in those things (off shore drilling and nuclear). And.......offshore drilling is a crap shoot. They can't even make a good guess if there was an oil deposit big enough to justify the cost of drilling. But McCain doesn't think so I guess. McCain is just a face. He doesn't have any real ambition to change anything. He just wants to keep everything the way it is and play war and to say he was president before he dies. I don't see any true passion in his speaches at all. He's a telepromtor reading Bush policy puppet.



Don't hold back. :thumbsup:

[TailgateNut]

So the nations of Afghanistan and Iraq are still standing and holding a united front against the US?

No, you stupid as a box of rocks Texan. They are watching a country destroy itself from within by waging an idiotic war which lacks purpose and direction.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Come on... Thats like bragging that the Broncos kicked ass at the special olympics.

Is it not true? It is a simple truth that this other guy cannot grasp.

[epicSocialism4tw]

No, you stupid as a box of rocks Texan. They are watching a country destroy itself from within by waging an idiotic war which lacks purpose and direction.

ADD much? Wait! Look over there! What?

[24champ]

They banned me... ROFL!

you were soliciting again?

[TailgateNut]

Is it not true? It is a simple truth that this other guy cannot grasp.


A simple truth? That's why we loose soldiers on a daily basis and the world owns us!

But "we kicked ass". Right?

Stupid MF's like you are the ones who can't seem to see the reality of this issue. Yeehaw rednecks who just "wanna kick some ass".

Osama has won! He is watching a nation tear itself apart from within.
Exactly what he was looking for. We are his ****ing puppet.

But Bush doesn't want to kill his ass because he may loose a terror talking point.

****ing republican asshats!

[TheDave]

you were soliciting again?


It is what it is...:~ohyah!:

[TheDave]

Is it not true? It is a simple truth that this other guy cannot grasp.

I'm always surprised by the lengths some people will go to back their party... but "Conquering two nations" is a new one.

Let me give an example...

Lets say i was a complete psychopath and decided to fake my way into the special Olympics (insert joke here). Upon faking my way into this event i proceed to talk **** on my fellow competitors in the process of winning a handful of gold medals. Now technically i could tell others that i am an Olympic gold medal winner... but "some" might consider that an over exaggeration and something that i should not brag about.

[TailgateNut]

I'm always surprised by the lengths some people will go to back their party... but "Conquering two nations" is a new one.


Just the word "Conquering" makes me shake my head in disbelief. Tell all those dead and maimed that we "Conquered" Iraq and I'm assuming the bonehead is implying that we also "Conquered" Afghanistan.

Un-f-in-be-lieve-able!

[Rigs11]

All you jackasses that keep asking what Obama's foreign policy plans are just go to his website.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/foreignpolicy/

[24champ]

It is what it is...:~ohyah!:

:rofl: there's always craigslist.

[ZONA]

So the nations of Afghanistan and Iraq are still standing and holding a united front against the US?

The heads of state, no, they're just Bush puppets after all. The general populous of those countries was never united against the US. The fact is, and this is well documented, over the last 7 years, there have been huge increases in the number of young men joining terrorists based on our occupation of Iraq. Not just in Iraq, all over the middle east and parts of Africa and Europe. Really, all we are doing over there is blowing tax payer dollars, getting our soldiers killed, over extending our military leaving it weaker other places, selling our souls to Saudi for oil, barrowing from China while the value of the dollar drops, while trying to fight a faceless warrior. Young men, with more cause now then ever, flock to Iraq to fight the big bad american anti-christ. All of this for what, to have a false hope that we are more safe? For christ sake, we knew about the terrorist that were gonna hi-jack those planes on 911. Our "INTERNAL" affairs were not coordinated enough and frankly, nobody believed it could be pulled off and it was IGNORED. This so called "war" in Iraq is an expensive joke and the american tax payer is the audiance.

[JJJ]

US foreign policy is completely F-ed up.
Mr. Bush is the laughing stock of the world.

The Old man will continue with the mess Bush started, Obama will change it. That should be simple enough for you.

Remember the rest of the world likes soccer so they are wrong about a lot of things. History will be very kind to GWB.

Obama will likely win because there are too many naive people who are buying this "change" nonsense. When the novelty wears off we will all find out very quickly in his term what it means to change policy every 3 or 4 months depending on the polls or which group he is trying to appease at any given time. You haven't seen any flip-flopping yet, just wait until this time next year. You are going to see change on a routine basis I am sure, 3 or 4 times on the same issue in most cases. Watch how hard stock markets will spook when this guy gets in there and his dual faced policies start showing up.

I haven't given up hope for McCain yet though as for the second election running democrats have elected the most liberal senator in the senate to represent them. In another year when they should be able to walk into the White House they select someone that many people will start to realize over the next few months is really unelectable.

You dems learned nothing from Bill Clinton (really a democrat who subscribed to republican policies). If you want to win, move to the center. Everyone knows Obama may talk to the center but he is as left as they get in this country. NAFTA a mistake? Is this guy is a joke?

[JJJ]

well good night republican scum ...I got a big day tomorrow .......we are just about done hauling dirt and rocks off , and will be hauling dirt in from Guernsy Wyoming ........;D

How on earth can a trucker vote Democrat? You know over here in Europe gas is $8 a gallon because of taxes. These are the type of taxes the Dems want to put on your business. Whether they tax it at the pump or tax Exxon it all is going to come out of your pocket eventually.

[Atlas]

You aren't that stupid are you?

When it was found out by his captors that he was the son of an American Admiral, they offered McCain early release from the POW camp hoping to score a propaganda victory (eg "look at how the privileged get better treatment"). McCain turned it down saying that anyone captured before him should be released before him, and then suffered several years more torture.

go read (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_mccain) (yeah Wiki isn't perfect, but it'll do for this purpose)

So what you are saying is that he refused to go back to work for the army so he just sat in prison and do nothing, while other soldiers were getting killed on the front line. He also signed a confession of war crimes. Does this make him a hero as well.

War is hell, being a prisoner of war is hell, but it doesn't make you a hero. Unde the American prisoner of war guidelines it says a prisoner of war is to always try to escape. That way the enemy will have to use resources to find them.

Getting caught in a war doesn't make you a hero.

Of course you know I'm playing devil's advocate here

[Atlas]

How on earth can a trucker vote Democrat? You know over here in Europe gas is $8 a gallon because of taxes. These are the type of taxes the Dems want to put on your business. Whether they tax it at the pump or tax Exxon it all is going to come out of your pocket eventually.

In Europe they have free health care a better mass transit system, very strong Unions and they average 34 Vacation days a year. Plus they have less crime and their streets and towns are much cleaner. but go ahead and bash away.

[Atlas]

Just the word "Conquering" makes me shake my head in disbelief. Tell all those dead and maimed that we "Conquered" Iraq and I'm assuming the bonehead is implying that we also "Conquered" Afghanistan.

Un-f-in-be-lieve-able!

That's pretty humorous.

[JJJ]

In Europe they have free health care a better mass transit system, very strong Unions and they average 34 Vacation days a year. Plus they have less crime and their streets and towns are much cleaner. but go ahead and bash away.

You are naive enough to think it is free? It may be universal but it certainly, certainly is not free.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

5 Star General Clark has looked into his military background very deeply and has seen nothing impresive.

And the usual right-wing reactionary media mouthpieces are piling on Clark for stating the obvious, i.e., that McSame's experience as a POW doesn't necessarly mean he'd make a good president.

[ZONA]

You dems learned nothing from Bill Clinton (really a democrat who subscribed to republican policies). If you want to win, move to the center. Everyone knows Obama may talk to the center but he is as left as they get in this country. NAFTA a mistake? Is this guy is a joke?


Yes, we learned that a Republican Supreme Justice can decide for the entire country that the Florida vote didn't count the first time and to screw the public by gift wrapping the presidency to Bush.

If deciding not to take lobbyist money and make history by changing campaign reform before he is even in the Whitehouse is flip-flopping, I'll live with that. I'd rather have a president who doesn't owe favors for financing his campaign.

And please, you want to talk about flip-flop, just go back to 2000 and look and see how McCain has changed his views. It's like 2 different people.

Besides, McCain called his wife a C_NT. Do we want a person like that running the country. If he treats the people he loves like that, what's that mean for the rest of the world. ICBM's anyone?

[Atlas]

You are naive enough to think it is free? It may be universal but it certainly, certainly is not free.

Sure it's not free dufus :hitself: They get benefits for paying high gas prices. You make it sound like they pay high gas prices just because their governments are evil. That money is put to use over there. Better roads, Cleaner cities, 34 vacation days a year, and a very good mass transit system. They only work 32-36 hours a week in France and get 34 days vacation time a year. Think about that. How much would you give up to live a life like that? Most Americans get 14 days a year vacation and a very high percentage of them don't even take all of it.

[Bronco Jamus]

What has John McCain ever done as far as leading and making good sound military judgement for this country? I am so sick of hearing he's the guy who would be best to run the military. WTF? Why? Cuz he was in the military oh I don't know, when George Washington was around. 5 Star General Clark has looked into his military background very deeply and has seen nothing impresive.

George Washington was a great mililtary leader. Check the French and Indian War and go from there. John McCain has never been incharge of the Military, but his ground level experience combined with his experience in the Senate certainly puts him in a better postion for the job of Commander in Chief.

[socalorado]

Maybe you should take the time to read, instead of just running your mouth.

BTW: what are McStains positives?

Ive read every post, and i'm not running my mouth, i type this stuff out.
10! Pages and not one reason from a Obamacon why any of us should vote for him!
Just the usual crap about how bad bushco is. Right we got it. Thanks ZONA for the E! true hollywood story of GWB and JMcPain. Thats great. Isnt this thread about Obama?

One Obamacon was soooo freakin lazy he actually posted a obama website! for us all to go to . Wow. just wow.

BTW, i am not a McPain supporter or a republican. I just noticed many pages ago that some of us asked why we should vote for Obama, and so far NO ONE has brought ONE single real reason to the thread.

Alls this thead is, is a bunch of cry babies whining about the last 8 years under bushco, or how good europeans have it cause they have hand bags that we call a purse for ladies, or Carter was a clown or McPain is too old. and thats all great, but i still dont see any reason to vote for Obama. None.
You know, after 10 freaking pages you would think a Obamacon would go out of his way to explain why i should vote for him, but NO! No one has done this!
All the more reason to NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA!
and i'm not even a republican!