Lie-Berman pushing bull**** again .

[Spider]

This ****er is a real turd .........
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[Dudeskey]

Is there closed captioning or something? this cockeater's voice is intolerable

[Spider]

Is there closed captioning or something? this cockeater's voice is intolerable

I wish there was ....... ****ing Lieberman neglects to say , that if Barak had been in charge , we wouldnt be in Iraq ......

[cutthemdown]

Funny how the democrats expect us to trust who they run for office if they now say Liberman is not a good man. I mean they tried to put this guy one step from the Whitehouse. How are we supposed to trust Obama and his running mate will be good men if the Democrats obviously nominate people that only 3-4 yrs later they don't even want in the party anymore.

[Spider]

Funny how the democrats expect us to trust who they run for office if they now say Liberman is not a good man. I mean they tried to put this guy one step from the Whitehouse. How are we supposed to trust Obama and his running mate will be good men if the Democrats obviously nominate people that only 3-4 yrs later they don't even want in the party anymore.

what are you born stupid ?

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what are you born stupid ?

Most newborns by the fact they haven't had a chance to learn or develop their brains would be considered stupid. That is unless we compare them to you in which case they would be considered genius.

[Spider]

Most newborns by the fact they haven't had a chance to learn or develop their brains would be considered stupid. That is unless we compare them to you in which case they would be considered genius.

LOL bull**** ...... Down syndrom look it up genius ........

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LOL bull**** ...... Down syndrom look it up genius ........

What's a syndrom? and if you are mentally challenged like that I apologize for making fun of you. We all thought the truck you talked about was real. I didn't realize you were only talking about your tonka.

[orinjkrush]

Lieberman is just a bull horn for the Jewish Non Defamation League and Israel.

[Spider]

What's a syndrom? and if you are mentally challenged like that I apologize for making fun of you. We all thought the truck you talked about was real. I didn't realize you were only talking about your tonka.

LOL you pathetic little **** , I forgot the E .......... If you play Blues the same way you think .. you must really suck ...probably stuck to playing **** hole gigs for mere beer money .....

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Funny how the democrats expect us to trust who they run for office if they now say Liberman is not a good man. I mean they tried to put this guy one step from the Whitehouse. How are we supposed to trust Obama and his running mate will be good men if the Democrats obviously nominate people that only 3-4 yrs later they don't even want in the party anymore.

Your problem is that you just don't have the track record to support your bullsh*t:

Clinton = arguably one of the best presidents we've had since the 60s.

Bush = arguably the worst president ever.

[Tombstone RJ]

This ****er is a real turd .........
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I like it. Yah, Iraq is a mess, but when the new pime minister of Iraq has the ability to go to Iran and talk face to face without fear of Iran, that is important.

[Spider]

I like it. Yah, Iraq is a mess, but when the new pime minister of Iraq has the ability to go to Iran and talk face to face without fear of Iran, that is important.

He had that before the surge , Iran has been send diplomats ever since we took Saddam out ........

[Tombstone RJ]

He had that before the surge , Iran has been send diplomats ever since we took Saddam out ........

Point being, the surge is working and allows the prime minister not to feel bullied by his neighbor.

Now, I'm not 100% sold on Iraq being a "new democracy" but it's one step closer in getting the troops home and not allowing Iraq to fall into chaos.

I think what alot of people don't realize is that once the US attacked Iraq and destroyed it's government, it was obligated to see the entire "nation building" process through. If we started yanking troops out while the government is unstable, it's akin to cutting and running.

There has been US foreign policy blunders over the years in the ME, for example, the 1953 coup in Iran, but also the fact that the US deserted the Afghanistan freedom fighters in the 1980s after the USSR had been defeated. If the US would have kept a presence in Afghanistan to help rebuild the countries infastructure, the Taliban and Al Queda might have been avoided.

[Spider]

Point being, the surge is working and allows the prime minister not to feel bullied by his neighbor.

Now, I'm not 100% sold on Iraq being a "new democracy" but it's one step closer in getting the troops home and not allowing Iraq to fall into chaos.

I think what alot of people don't realize is that once the US attacked Iraq and destroyed it's government, it was obligated to see the entire "nation building" process through. If we started yanking troops out while the government is unstable, it's akin to cutting and running.

There has been US foreign policy blunders over the years in the ME, for example, the 1953 coup in Iran, but also the fact that the US deserted the Afghanistan freedom fighters in the 1980s after the USSR had been defeated. If the US would have kept a presence in Afghanistan to help rebuild the countries infastructure, the Taliban and Al Queda might have been avoided.

The point being is Lie-berman is pushing the same bull**** we heard about Nam , if Iraq makes or or fails it wont be because of us , it will be the people of Iraq ,that determines Iraqs fate ........ Thats something people just dont get , we can have troops over there the next 500 years , wont do any good for us , just Haliburton .....

[Spider]

Oh and I am not to sure about the surge working or not , I do know we are paying Al Sadir not to fight ...........

[Tombstone RJ]

The point being is Lie-berman is pushing the same bull**** we heard about Nam , if Iraq makes or or fails it wont be because of us , it will be the people of Iraq ,that determines Iraqs fate ........ Thats something people just dont get , we can have troops over there the next 500 years , wont do any good for us , just Haliburton .....

There's no easy solution...

[Spider]

There's no easy solution...

well I think after the elections the next president tells Iraq you got 2 years to get it together , we will keep a token force there , but that is it

[TexanBob]

This ****er is a real turd .........


The only adult among the Democrats on foreign policy.

Oops, I guess that's why he's no longer a Democrat.

[Florida_Bronco]

Bush = arguably the worst president ever.

I completely disagree with this statement....
























...there is no argument. 8')

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I completely disagree with this statement....
























...there is no argument. 8')

;D

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

JoJo the Turncoat Monkey apparently got his head out of McCain's ass long enough to get a whiff of the political winds (http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_10/015376.php)
LIEBERMAN HASN'T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO HIMSELF.... Joe Lieberman adopted the role of Republican attack dog early on, but as the election draws near, he's hoping (http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-lieberman1025.artoct25,0,5064934.story) the political world has a very short memory.

Lieberman, a self-proclaimed "independent Democrat" who was chosen by McCain to make the case against Obama at the Republican National Convention in early September, said his comments have been within bounds."When I go out, I say, 'I have a lot of respect for Sen. Obama. He's bright. He's eloquent.'"

My hunch is, Lieberman sees the direction of the political winds, and hopes to convince Democrats that while he's been a McCain sycophant, he's always been "respectful" towards Obama.Lieberman, in other words, has to hope Democrats haven't been paying any attention at all. The party is supposed to forget, for example, when Lieberman argued (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/12/lieberman-obama-has-not-always-put-country-first/) that Obama doesn't put "country first."The link at the top --to the Washington Monthly article-- has many more examples of JoJo's "respect" for Obama during this campaign.

Pleasepleasepleeeeeease let us get to 60 seats without this jackass, so we can kick his self-serving ass to the curb with the rest of the Senate garbage. Then the fine folks in Connecticut can sweep him out for good.

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Lieberman doesn't care what Democrats think. He's so popular with the Jews in his district you won't defeat him. He's proved he doesn't need dem support to win his seat. They already tried to run someone against him and he still won the election.

Liberman will sit back and hope he's the tiebreaker in the senate.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Lieberman doesn't care what Democrats think. He's so popular with the Jews in his district you won't defeat him. He's proved he doesn't need dem support to win his seat. They already tried to run someone against him and he still won the election.

Liberman will sit back and hope he's the tiebreaker in the senate.

I wouldn't be so quick to blow Joe if I were you...

If the Democrats had 60 votes, they'd have a far, far greater chance of enacting such Obama proposals as expanding health care to the uninsured, and raising taxes on those making more than $250,000 a year.

Duffy later added that the Democrats might not even need 60 votes, since they can likely attract support from moderate Republicans such as Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe of Maine on some issues, perhaps more than enough to offset the loss of support issue-to-issue from some more conservative Democrats.

"They don't need 60," Duffy said. "To be effective, they don't necessarily need 60."

A prominent liberal strategist who also addressed the Democratic group, Markos Moulitsas Zúniga of the website dailykos.com, agreed that Democrats could reach a filibuster-proof majority with fewer than 60 Democratic seats.

"The majority number for Obama to have a filibuster-rpoof majority is 57, 58," he said.

"There are seven potential Republians we can peel off on an issue by issue basis to get to that 60 vote total," he said.

http://washingtonbureau.typepad.com/election2008/2008/06/analyst-to-dems.html

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My point was just that Liberman is pretty safe because his district loves him.

Now doubt Dems would love to not need him and i also agree they have a shot for a fillibuster proof majority. Exciting stuff to say the least. It will be fun to see what the dems can get passed and what repubs can do to fight back.

Often the country gets scared about giving too much to one side. Some of the Senate contests may get closer.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Often the country gets scared about giving too much to one side.

That's funny - I haven't heard you or anyone else on the right saying anything like this these last eight years.

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[Blueflame]

Lieberman doesn't care what Democrats think. He's so popular with the Jews in his district you won't defeat him. He's proved he doesn't need dem support to win his seat. They already tried to run someone against him and he still won the election.

Liberman will sit back and hope he's the tiebreaker in the senate.

Um...Republicans in Connecticut abandoned their own candidate to ensure that "Independent" Joe.... who had lost the Democratic primary... remained in Congress. For a long time, Lieberman has been a Republican.

[cutthemdown]

That's funny - I haven't heard you or anyone else on the right saying anything like this these last eight years.

http://www.bartcopnation.com/dc/user_files/13491.jpg

actually I mentioned in an earlier thread one thing that worried me about McCain winning would be that it could shift Supreme Court all the way right. I said I thought that would be bad and coupled with Palin makes it easy for me to not vote for McCain.

I'm way more middle of the road then you LABF. Your so far left I don't think any mainstream politicians even close to you. Maybe Kuchinic and that's about it.

Certainly Clinton wasn't liberal enough for your taste. Obama may be closer but I don't think even he represents you.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

actually I mentioned in an earlier thread one thing that worried me about McCain winning would be that it could shift Supreme Court all the way right. I said I thought that would be bad and coupled with Palin makes it easy for me to not vote for McCain.

What you just said a few days ago doesn't count.

I'm talking about the last eight years.

I haven't heard you or any of the other Bush sheep complain about such imbalances of power on Bush's watch.


I'm way more middle of the road then you LABF. Your so far left I don't think any mainstream politicians even close to you. Maybe Kuchinic and that's about it.

It only seems that way to you because you have swallowed the right-wing propaganda the objective of which (for the past 30 years) has been to make "liberal" a dirty word.

The fact that you consider me "far left" shows your ignorance re: history.

According to your metric, Eisenhower was a flaming socialist.

And you're not "middle of the road" - you've been an apologist for the most extreme, radical right-wing administration in recent memory since you've been a member of this forum.