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broncofan7
06-23-2008, 09:33 AM
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080619.wcurfew19/BNStory/lifeFamily/home

Father doesn't know best, court rules in girl's fight to get grounding overruled
TU THANH HA

From Thursday's Globe and Mail

June 19, 2008 at 4:05 AM EDT

First, the father banned his 12-year-old daughter from going online after she posted photos of herself on a dating site. Then she allegedly had a row with her stepmother, so the father said his girl couldn't go on a school trip.

The girl took the matter to the court - and won what lawyers say was an unprecedented judgment.

Madam Justice Suzanne Tessier of the Quebec Superior Court ruled on Friday that the father couldn't discipline his daughter by barring her from the school trip.

The judge's decision, made from the bench, applies only to the girl's unusual circumstances, lawyers for both sides said, trying to dispel visions of grounded teenagers rushing to the nearest courthouse to overturn their parents' punishments. Nevertheless, the case triggered an uproar in the Gatineau region of Quebec, near Ottawa, where the girl, her divorced parents and her stepmother live.

Even though the school trip is now over, the father is appealing the ruling because his moral authority over his child had been undercut by the court, said his lawyer, Kim Beaudoin. "He is stunned by this situation. He feels like he's lost his daughter," Ms. Beaudoin said in an interview.

"My client wants to appeal so no other parents will live through the same thing."

Lucie Fortin, the lawyer representing the 12-year-old, said the judge found that depriving the girl of the school trip was an excessive punishment.

She said the girl has already been forbidden to use the Internet and her father also punished her by cancelling her participation in an extracurricular event.

The trip, a three-day outing within Quebec supervised by teachers and volunteer parents, marked her Grade 6 class graduation from elementary school.

"She's becoming a big girl. ... It's a unique event in her life," Ms. Fortin said.

The girl's parents are divorced. Her father has legal custody but for the past month she has lived with her mother, Ms. Fortin said.

Before Judge Tessier, she cited Sections 159 and 604 of the Quebec Civil Code, which allow minors in some circumstances to initiate court proceedings relating to the exercise of parental authority.

Ms. Beaudoin said Section 159 is normally used in extreme circumstances, for example when a child wants to be removed from negligent parents.

"What my client is saying is that a school trip is not a right, it's a privilege," she said.

Ms. Fortin said, however, that the case ended in court after a long, escalating dispute between the girl and her father and stepmother, which ended with the daughter being expelled from her father's house and living with her biological mother since May.

"I presented this [court] motion with a lot of sadness," Ms. Fortin said.

Ms. Beaudoin also described a climate of tension and defiance, saying the girl, who had been banned from Internet chatting, tried to circumvent the order by going online at a friend's house.

Judge Tessier heard the matter for about 40 minutes on Friday morning then gave her oral ruling in the afternoon, Ms. Beaudoin said.

randomtask
06-23-2008, 09:39 AM
Good grief. It's cases like this that remind me why I think that the civil courts system needs to be redone.

TheReverend
06-23-2008, 09:40 AM
This is retarded. That girl needs to get some sense smacked into her by her mom.

bronco militia
06-23-2008, 09:44 AM
"Oh Canada......"

epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2008, 09:44 AM
This is why Im glad Im not Canadian.

broncofan7
06-23-2008, 09:46 AM
This is why Im glad Im not Canadian.

That, socialized medicine, 'healthy' women and god -awful winters....

TheReverend
06-23-2008, 09:49 AM
That, socialized medicine, 'healthy' women and god -awful winters....

Pam Anderson, Elisha Cuthbert and the mega-ultra-hot playmate of the year are all Canadian.

...Like everything else that's great from Canada, it all leaves and gets here asap.

broncofan7
06-23-2008, 10:04 AM
Pam Anderson, Elisha Cuthbert and the mega-ultra-hot playmate of the year are all Canadian.

...Like everything else that's great from Canada, it all leaves and gets here asap.

Those are all abberations dear sir... ever been to Ottawa or Windsor? yuck!The majority are overweight like northern women here in the US. No reason to stay inshape because they are always wearing so many clothes....

TheReverend
06-23-2008, 10:07 AM
Those are all abberations dear sir... ever been to Ottawa or Windsor? yuck!The majority are overweight like northern women here in the US. No reason to stay inshape because they are always wearing so many clothes....

Girls that hot are always abberations...

broncofan7
06-23-2008, 10:15 AM
Girls that hot are always abberations...

In some places to a greater degree than others.........I have lived in PA, DE, OH, TX---and I have done a residency in CA--CA and TX have BY FAR the better looking women and many more of them. I do medical contract work 2 weekends a month to underserved places throughout TX and I can tell you that even some of the smaller towns in TX have more than a few gorgeous women. Guys down here take it for granted .......

epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2008, 10:18 AM
In some places to a greater degree than others.........I have lived in PA, DE, OH, TX---and I have done a residency in CA--CA and TX have BY FAR the better looking women and many more of them. I do medical contract work 2 weekends a month to underserved places throughout TX and I can tell you that even some of the smaller towns in TX have more than a few gorgeous women. Guys down here take it for granted .......


Yeah, we're pretty spoiled here.

TheReverend
06-23-2008, 10:21 AM
In some places to a greater degree than others.........I have lived in PA, DE, OH, TX---and I have done a residency in CA--CA and TX have BY FAR the better looking women and many more of them. I do medical contract work 2 weekends a month to underserved places throughout TX and I can tell you that even some of the smaller towns in TX have more than a few gorgeous women. Guys down here take it for granted .......

I hear ya, and a lot of is genetic. People with money that live in nice areas have trophy wives. Trophy wives make hotter kids.

But on that same note, I've lived in PA, IL, WI, NY, CA, FL, SC, NC, AZ, TX, and Iraq and there's hot women everrrrrrrrrrrrrywhere thankfully.

Tombstone RJ
06-23-2008, 10:31 AM
Wow, what a sad ruling. It's pathetic, and the judge has way overstepped the court's authority.

Northman
06-23-2008, 10:51 AM
Man, when did the goverment take over parenting?

epicSocialism4tw
06-23-2008, 10:56 AM
Man, when did the goverment take over parenting?

Long time ago, Anubis.

Hogan11
06-23-2008, 11:06 AM
Three things:

1)Well, the Canadian judicial system is messed up, thankfully the rest of the country isn't.

2) Some of the hottest women I've ever seen were in Montreal, like Iceland, there's something about colder climes when it comes to that dept.

3) Nothing good ever came out of Texas, period.

TailgateNut
06-23-2008, 11:32 AM
Trophy wives make hotter kids.

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:spit:

broncofan7
06-23-2008, 11:41 AM
Three things:



3) Nothing good ever came out of Texas, period.

Check out match.com if you don't believe me...search TX then search some states in the northern US. If you like your women in shape, the south is where it's at ......more of them so even a guy like me is able to get a hottie;)

TailgateNut
06-23-2008, 12:09 PM
Check out match.com ;)


:spit:

internet datingROFL!

broncofan7
06-23-2008, 12:41 PM
:spit:

internet datingROFL!

Hey, it beats cheating on your wife with office coworkers?:) lol --