ESPN First Take: Broncos counting on Pittman [Archive] - The Orange Mane

montrose

06-18-2008, 12:24 PM

Just a quick nugget from this morning's ESPN First Take. They had on Rick Stroud who covers the Bucs and the NFL for the St. Petersburg Times. Stroud mentioned the Broncos are going into this season with no previous 1,000 yard rusher and they are counting heavily on Michael Pittman. Stroud spoke to Pittman who said the Broncos have talked about using him in a 3rd down role and possibly at fullback. Pittman told Stroud his primary role on the team, however, will be to help out Selvin Young and Andre Hall both of which the team is very, very high on.

2KBack

06-18-2008, 12:26 PM

Broncos counting on Pittman...to be role player/mentor

Kaylore

06-18-2008, 12:27 PM

We're counting on someone we signed to our team? Shocking!

Inkana7

06-18-2008, 12:28 PM

Cool. Pittman's a good receiver out of the backfield, and I bet his biceps could pass-protect all by themselves.

montrose

06-18-2008, 12:32 PM

I was most taking back by his comments about playing FB. For the love of God Shanny, please start Hillis and make Sapp his backup and be done with it.

draco193

06-18-2008, 12:37 PM

I was most taking back by his comments about playing FB. For the love of God Shanny, please start Hillis and make Sapp his backup and be done with it.

Or just drop Sapp.

Drek

06-18-2008, 12:57 PM

I was most taking back by his comments about playing FB. For the love of God Shanny, please start Hillis and make Sapp his backup and be done with it.

Shanahan probably wants to find another guy who can play 'tweener for him so we can cut the FB roster down even further. They let Sapp sit in FA waters for a good long time before giving him a bargain basement contract, and that was before drafting Hillis.

I'm betting its also part of why Larsen is working out at FB. He's going to try carrying only one FB so that we can keep more HBs without giving up bubble spots to the backfield that he'd rather have for DBs, LBs, WRs, etc..

no-pseudo-fan

06-18-2008, 01:09 PM

Mike bell is in trouble, should put his resume on monster.com/

BroncoBuff

06-18-2008, 01:15 PM

I was most taking back by his comments about playing FB. For the love of God Shanny, please start Hillis and make Sapp his backup and be done with it.
I agree that making yet another RB into a FB is a bad idea ... but how do you figure a 7th-round rookie is just gonna walk in and start? I think just making the roster itself or even the practice squad is a better goal to begin.

Inkana7

06-18-2008, 01:25 PM

Killericon

06-18-2008, 01:26 PM

I agree that making yet another RB into a FB is a bad idea ... but how do you figure a 7th-round rookie is just gonna walk in and start? I think just making the roster itself or even the practice squad is a better goal to begin.

I don't think that you can say something like that about a full-back...I mean, even if your scout thinks that a FB is ready to star in the NFL, he's still not going to get picked until the 2nd day.

dbfan21

06-18-2008, 01:26 PM

Mike bell is in trouble, should put his resume on monster.com/

You know, I work in the recruiting field and I have seen some former players resumes on Monster, Careerbuilder, etc. Guys like Mike Lodish, Tyrone Braxton, and Wesley Duke. Anyone want their cell phone numbers? J/K

Popps

06-18-2008, 01:27 PM

Broncos counting on Pittman...to be role player/mentor

According to the reports, Melissa Pittman said Pittman told her to "get the f--- out of the car" and he called her a "white piece of s---" and a "b----".

Melissa Pittman, 25, returned to the house and again was confronted by Pittman who told her to "get out and get (your) family the f--- out of (my) house," the report said.

According to Phoenix police, an enraged Pittman rammed his Hummer into a Mercedes containing his wife, Melissa; his 2-year-old son, Mycah; and the family's 18-year-old babysitter. Pittman, who was arrested and charged in 2001 and in 1997 in domestic violence incidents, faces a possible six felony counts for Saturday's incident.

Sounds like a good role-player/mentor to me.

bronco militia

06-18-2008, 01:28 PM

yawn....thank god for the internet, or i'd have to count on ESPN for sports news again

Inkana7

06-18-2008, 01:34 PM

According to the reports, Melissa Pittman said Pittman told her to "get the f--- out of the car" and he called her a "white piece of s---" and a "b----".

Melissa Pittman, 25, returned to the house and again was confronted by Pittman who told her to "get out and get (your) family the f--- out of (my) house," the report said.

According to Phoenix police, an enraged Pittman rammed his Hummer into a Mercedes containing his wife, Melissa; his 2-year-old son, Mycah; and the family's 18-year-old babysitter. Pittman, who was arrested and charged in 2001 and in 1997 in domestic violence incidents, faces a possible six felony counts for Saturday's incident.

Sounds like a good role-player/mentor to me.

Kinda like Rod Smith.

Popps

06-18-2008, 01:41 PM

Kinda like Rod Smith.

Smith certainly deserves to be taken to task for the alleged incident and he's publicly admitted his wrong-doing and called himself out for it on multiple occasions, including going to counseling, this DESPITE the fact that the alleged victim recanted her story and said it was an absolute fabrication based on an argument. She later accused the prosecutors of tampering with evidence, among other things.

If you want to compare that to a guy who has multiple infractions and refuses to recognize that he did anything wrong, have at it. Seems a little lazy-brained, to me.

broncofan2438

06-18-2008, 01:42 PM

I watched this, they always talk it up before they go to commercial and then they talk about it for about two seconds. They tell us something we already know, or hope to hear

kmonty

06-18-2008, 01:49 PM

I watched this, they always talk it up before they go to commercial and then they talk about it for about two seconds. They tell us something we already know, or hope to hear

DING DING DING watched it too, we have a winner.

Merlin

06-18-2008, 01:52 PM

Kinda like Rod Smith.
Not at all like Rod Smith. He cleaned up his act after he got in trouble. Pittman is habitual woman beater and there is little evidence to suggest otherwise. However, his role is to mentor the players on how to play football, not how to be a decent human being. Pittman is slime, but in the context of the field, my understanding is that he does give his all and could play when not injured (or old). Let him mentor for 1 yr, and then begone.

kmonty

06-18-2008, 02:07 PM

I don't think Pittman makes the cut.

Young - Torain - Hall at tailback
Hillis - Sapp at fullback (maybe not in that order at first)

If the roster spot's there, Pittman and Bell can fight it out for a hybrid role backing up both spots.

BroncoBuff

06-18-2008, 02:20 PM

I don't think Pittman makes the cut.
I hope not ... I like all the young guys. Even though Pittman is a skilled veteran, I'd rather keep Mike Bell. Ridding this roster of malcontents Javon and Travis has left me feeling kinda refreshed and hopeful, at least from a player morale standpoint ... and Pittman doesn't fit with that.

Young - Torain - Hall at tailback
Hillis - Sapp at fullback (maybe not in that order at first)
Exactly ... with Mike Bell the #6 guy on the bubble.

One thing's for sure, we'll have the youngest stable of RBs in the league.

montrose

06-18-2008, 02:24 PM

I agree that making yet another RB into a FB is a bad idea ... but how do you figure a 7th-round rookie is just gonna walk in and start? I think just making the roster itself or even the practice squad is a better goal to begin.

Because the Broncos don't have one true FB on the roster, instantly making Hillis the best player on the team at that position. If I have to watch Selvin Young running into Cecil Sapp in the backfield because Sapp can't drive his man one more time, I'm going to go postal. Hillis isn't the greatest blocker, but he's the best of the FB options - and he's a much better receiving threat than all of the others as well.

I don't think Pittman makes the cut.

Young - Torain - Hall at tailback
Hillis - Sapp at fullback (maybe not in that order at first)

If the roster spot's there, Pittman and Bell can fight it out for a hybrid role backing up both spots.

I agree. A rebuilding team has no use for a guy like Pittman with more valuable young guys available.

Gcver2ver3

06-18-2008, 02:56 PM

Living in Tampa Bay, I have always been critical of Michael Pittman...on the field and off...

however, i do have to credit him for his receiving ability...

he is a GREAT 3rd down back...he is a terrific receiving back and a good blocker...

if 3rd downs is what we envision for him than he'll make the squad...he's easily the best 3rd down back on our team...

Inkana7

06-18-2008, 03:08 PM

Not at all like Rod Smith. He cleaned up his act after he got in trouble. Pittman is habitual woman beater and there is little evidence to suggest otherwise. However, his role is to mentor the players on how to play football, not how to be a decent human being. Pittman is slime, but in the context of the field, my understanding is that he does give his all and could play when not injured (or old). Let him mentor for 1 yr, and then begone.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't that blurb Popps had say that he was arrested in 1997 and 2001? Sounds to me like he's cleaned up his act.

c_lazy_r

06-18-2008, 03:24 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't that blurb Popps had say that he was arrested in 1997 and 2001? Sounds to me like he's cleaned up his act.

Although I don't know Pittman, I tend to agree. I don't approve of his actions in college and in AZ but that was a long, long time ago.

bowtown

06-18-2008, 03:24 PM

If you want to compare that to a guy who has multiple infractions and refuses to recognize that he did anything wrong, have at it. Seems a little lazy-brained, to me.

You might want to read this story from the Post (Warning reading this will make it much harder for you to continue to blindly make biased statements about things you know nothing about... though somehow I'm sure you'll find a way.)

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_9495437

Here's a little snippet for you:

These reports were naturally followed by references to the Broncos' recent signing of Michael Pittman, a veteran running back who in 2001 and 2003 was arrested in domestic violence incidents involving his wife.

"I don't know if it was temper as (much as) it was (being) new in the marriage," Pittman said this week. "I was used to do everything on my own, not having to share my life, and making bad decisions. I've matured.

"I'm 32 years old now. I go around and talk to kids about it. Go to high schools. I speak at seminars. I talk about making right decisions. My wife and I are still together. We're in love. We've moved on from it and we're stronger from it."

bronco militia

06-18-2008, 03:25 PM

a long time ago, Pittman was not washed up.

Popps

06-18-2008, 03:31 PM

You might want to read this story from the Post (Warning reading this will make it much harder for you to continue to blindly make biased statements about things you know nothing about... though somehow I'm sure you'll find a way.):

Look, the ****-bag beat the **** out of women for probably a decade. Some newspaper prints and article where he finally (supposedly) owns up to some of it, and you're sucking his dick?

Yea, you're right... it's me that's blind.

::)

Popps

06-18-2008, 03:34 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't that blurb Popps had say that he was arrested in 1997 and 2001? Sounds to me like he's cleaned up his act.

Dude..

On May 31, 2003, Pittman was arrested for two counts of aggravated battery, when he allegedly rammed a Mercedes Benz off the road with his Hummer SUV.

AGAIN in 2003.

This f@ck-bag has so many, it's hard to keep track.

But, hey... he's a Bronco and hasn't beaten any women that we know about in a couple of years. So, we should all be riding his jock.

bowtown

06-18-2008, 03:38 PM

Look, the ****-bag beat the **** out of women for probably a decade. Some newspaper prints and article where he finally (supposedly) owns up to some of it, and you're sucking his dick?

Yea, you're right... it's me that's blind.

::)

I'm not sucking his dick. I'm not saying anything about him. I'm saying that you inaccuratly labled him as a someone who has never owned up or recognized anything he did wrong. I also am not sure how you get two incidents, two years apart, both invloving his wife, as beating the $*** out of women for "probably a decade." (But you have yet again proven my point in my first post regarding your perseverance).

Popps

06-18-2008, 03:44 PM

I also am not sure how you get two incidents, two years apart, both invloving his wife, as beating the $*** out of women for "probably a decade." (But you have yet again proven my point in my first post regarding your perseverance).

Three incidents, ranging from the 90s to a least 2003, and his wife said she'd been beaten by the guy upwards of 60 times.

Maybe you need to do some reading.

Or, keep up with the man-crush. Knock yourself out. Get his jersey, whatever.

But personally, I think he's a tool and I hope we cut the ****ing loser.

Popps

06-18-2008, 03:46 PM

I realize the NFL is mostly filled with schmucks. I'm a grown-up. But, I'd like to see us get back to the point where we don't have one of the biggest dick-heads in the league on our team every season. There's a team in northern California that takes care of that job.

bowtown

06-18-2008, 03:59 PM

Three incidents, ranging from the 90s to a least 2003, and his wife said she'd been beaten by the guy upwards of 60 times.

Maybe you need to do some reading.

Or, keep up with the man-crush. Knock yourself out. Get his jersey, whatever.

But personally, I think he's a tool and I hope we cut the ****ing loser.

And personally, I think people can change sometimes. He hasn't been involved in an incident in 5 years, he admits the wrong decidsions he made in his past and even goes around talking to kids about it now. I guess you can go ahead and keep judging the guy for his past problems, but then again, why do you let Rod Smith off the hook? How about anyone who has ever commited a crime? Do they ever get to rehabilitate themselves or are they always just scumbags forever in your eyes?

See this isn't actually about Michael Pittman. I don't care about him. It's about your holier than thou postings that pass judgement on a person's past while totally ignoring the work they have put in to put that behind them, move forward, and try to make up for some of the harm they have caused along the way. It's kind of a personal thing to me...

Now if he goes out and does this again, he shows to not only still be a scumbag, but also to be a hypocrite, and then he deserves everything you want to throw at him... but until then I think a guy should be judged by the life he is currently trying to lead rather than the one he has worked hard to shed, rather than to have it used against him to make his efforts that much harder.

SleepingTiger

06-18-2008, 04:04 PM

We're counting on someone we signed to our team? Shocking!

LOL

Popps

06-18-2008, 05:07 PM

And personally, I think people can change sometimes. He hasn't been involved in an incident in 5 years.

So, if he wasn't a ballplayer, and was just some thug who beat up your daughter or mother, you'd feel the same way, right?

Like I said, buy his jersey and enjoy. But, some of us reserve the right not to cheer for repeat, violent criminals.

bowtown

06-18-2008, 05:12 PM

So, if he wasn't

Wasn't what?

See I can easily blaze over the majority of a post, taking none of it into account in my reply, too.

What a joke. I'm all done with this.

Popps

06-18-2008, 06:36 PM

Wasn't what?

See I can easily blaze over the majority of a post, taking none of it into account in my reply, too.

What a joke. I'm all done with this.

I took it all into account, kid. You couldn't answer the question, which pretty much tells us the answer.

Pittman is a ballplayer and on your sports team, so you're willing to overlook a few, or potentially a few hundred (for all we know) beat-downs on women half his size.

I wonder if he beats his kids, too?

It's cool, though. He's a ballplayer!!! I forgive him. I really think people can change... as long as they don't hurt me or my family, and as long as they're a ballplayer.

Popps

06-18-2008, 06:37 PM

By the way, he's gone 2 and 4 years between REPORTED female-beating incidents in the past. So, let's not throw a ****ing ticker-tape parade because he hasn't landed in jail in 5.

Hogan11

06-18-2008, 06:43 PM

I hope not ... I like all the young guys. Even though Pittman is a skilled veteran, I'd rather keep Mike Bell. Ridding this roster of malcontents Javon and Travis has left me feeling kinda refreshed and hopeful, at least from a player morale standpoint ... and Pittman doesn't fit with that.

Exactly ... with Mike Bell the #6 guy on the bubble.

One thing's for sure, we'll have the youngest stable of RBs in the league.

I know he wears #30 and all, but there's no way, no way in hell Mike Bell makes the roster this year without some sort of devine intervention. That fumble last season sealed his fate.

Popps

06-18-2008, 06:46 PM

I know he wears #30 and all, but there's no way, no way in hell Mike Bell makes the roster this year without some sort of devine intervention. That fumble last season sealed his fate.

It's too bad, too. Sometimes I think Shanahan dog-houses himself out of players a little too quickly. How is it that he rushes to the defense of dumb****s like Henry and Kircus, and abandons a 100% guy like Bell?

Given, fumbling is a sin... but Bell was actually a good role player and was turning into a surprisingly good blocker.

I hope he makes the squad, personally.

montrose

06-18-2008, 06:46 PM

I know he wears #30 and all, but there's no way, no way in hell Mike Bell makes the roster this year without some sort of devine intervention. That fumble last season sealed his fate.

God I felt bad for him after that. You just knew...

Hogan11

06-18-2008, 06:51 PM

God I felt bad for him after that. You just knew...

Yup, it just reeked of "last chance" and when he fumbled, the look on Shanahan's face after it happened.......pure doom.

Drek

06-18-2008, 07:02 PM

It's too bad, too. Sometimes I think Shanahan dog-houses himself out of players a little too quickly. How is it that he rushes to the defense of dumb****s like Henry and Kircus, and abandons a 100% guy like Bell?

Given, fumbling is a sin... but Bell was actually a good role player and was turning into a surprisingly good blocker.

I hope he makes the squad, personally.

Because Bell wasn't a 100% guy in camp last year?

That is how I heard it. He was going to have the chance to compete for the starting job with Henry, but instead just showed up and went through the motions. Thats how Young and Hall leapfrogged him.

A guy like Bell can't afford to not give 100% effort every time he steps on the practice field, let alone during games.

kmonty

06-18-2008, 07:02 PM

Bell had 1 fumble in 06. Not like he's butterfingers (people just remember the preseason in 06 too, that early fumble he had).

I'd rather have him than Pittman on the roster, if there's a spot for either.

Hogan11

06-18-2008, 07:04 PM

I'm actually a little surprised Bell's still on the current roster

BroncoBuff

06-18-2008, 08:19 PM

Because Bell wasn't a 100% guy in camp last year?

That is how I heard it. He was going to have the chance to compete for the starting job with Henry, but instead just showed up and went through the motions. Thats how Young and Hall leapfrogged him.

A guy like Bell can't afford to not give 100% effort every time he steps on the practice field, let alone during games.
I recall late last pre-season, Bell asked to be traded after he was moved to FB. Shanahan was quoted as saying he would accomodate him, but that he advised Bell to think about his demands for a moment first, and think about how far he'd come as in one season as a CFA. A day later, Bell withdrew the trade demand, and moved to FB.

That fumble was a harrowing moment, true ... but the season itself turned out to be pretty harrowing itself. This cleansing feeling of Henry, Walker, the Browncos and Plummer all GONE makes me hope Mike Bell wises up and minds his manners. He's a Denver local of course, and by all accounts a good kid. Let's hope he acts that way.

Popps

06-18-2008, 09:21 PM