McCain's plans

[Tombstone RJ]

http://www.johnmccain.com/

Go there, see what he has to say. Unlike Obama, he has a long history of service.

[Odysseus]

MCCAIN ON WOMAN ISSUES

McCain has voted consistently against women's health, and he supports overturning the landmark U.S. Supreme Court ruling, Roe v. Wade. Following is a summary of his positions on women's issues.

McCain Opposed Equal Pay Bill for Women, Said They 'Need Education and Training' Instead. McCain skipped a vote on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act that would ensure women have the opportunity to recover back pay for discrimination once they discover it. If he had been there to vote, he said he would have voted against it and that women "need education and training" rather than an equal pay bill. The bill addressed a recent Supreme Court decision that said Steelworker Lilly Ledbetter could not recover back pay for 19 years of discrimination at Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. because she had not discovered the unequal pay until she retired. The bill would amend the 1964 Civil Rights Act to allow employees to file charges of pay discrimination within 180 days of the last received paycheck affected by the discrimination. [Source: aflcio.org; H.R. 2831, Vote 110, 4/23/08; Associated Press, 4/28/08]

McCain Voted to Gut the Family and Medical Leave Act. In 1993, before finally voting for the Family and Medical Leave Act, McCain voted to jeopardize leave for millions of workers by gutting the bill. He voted to suspend the Family and Medical Leave Act unless the federal government certified that compliance would not increase business expenses or provide financial assistance to businesses to cover any related costs. [Source: aflcio.org S.Amdt. 16, S. 5, Vote 7, 2/4/93; H.R. 1, Vote 11, 2/4/93]

Source for the following information: Planned Parenthood

McCain opposed spending $100 million to prevent unintended and teen pregnancies. In 2005, McCain voted NO to allocate $100 million to expand access to preventive health care services that reduce the numbers of unintended and teen pregnancies and reduce the number of abortions.

McCain opposed legislation requiring that abstinence-only programs be medically accurate and scientifically based.
McCain voted NO on legislation that would help reduce the number of teen pregnancies by providing funding for programs to teach comprehensive, medically accurate sexuality education and other programs to prevent unintended teen pregnancies.

McCain opposed Title X, the nation's family planning program.
In 1990, McCain voted NO on legislation to extend the Title X federal family planning program, which provides low-income and uninsured women and families with health care services ranging from breast and cervical cancer screening to birth control.

McCain opposed requiring insurance coverage of prescription birth control.
In 2003, McCain voted NO on legislation to improve the availability of contraceptives for women and to require insurance coverage of prescription birth control.

McCain opposes comprehensive sex education.
In an interview aboard the "Straight Talk Express," McCain struggled to answer questions about comprehensive sex education and HIV prevention. He also stated that he supported "the president's policy" on sex education.

McCain unsure where he stands on government funding for contraception.
"Whether I support government funding for them or not, I don't know," McCain said about contraceptives.

McCain opposed repealing the "global gag rule."
In 2005, McCain voted NO on legislation to overturn the "global gag rule," which bars foreign nongovernmental organizations from receiving U.S. family planning assistance if the organization (using its own, non-U.S. funds) provides abortion services or information or advocates for pro-choice laws and policies in its own country.

McCain supports overturning Roe v. Wade.
In February 2007, the AP quoted McCain stating, "I do not support Roe v. Wade. It should be overturned." In May 2007, he reiterated his desire to overturn Roe v. Wade during an appearance on Meet the Press stating, "My position has been consistently in my voting record, pro-life, and I continue to maintain that position and voting record."

[tsiguy96]

http://www.johnmccain.com/

Go there, see what he has to say. Unlike Obama, he has a long history of service.

then why did john mccain oppose the truth accountability bill (HR 3603)?
didnt want americans to find out what he really did in vietnam? the goal was to find records of americans who were POWs, and find any POWs that may still be alive. he killed the bill after it passed 401-0 in the house. now tell me, why would he do that?

funny how the man with a long "history of service" has a whole organization of vietnam vets against him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFM1xqqTX_g

[tsiguy96]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAzBxFaio1I

its mccains new single.

[tsiguy96]

tim russert (RIP) makes john mccain look like a total moron.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajm5JTf7jZs&feature=related

i can find you 100 more videos that show the 2 sides of john mccain, neither of which make any sense.

[Odysseus]

McCain is carbon copy of Bush. He listens only to his inner circle.

This YouTube video is brutal. 401 to 1?

EDIT: funny how the man with a long "history of service" has a whole organization of vietnam vets against him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFM1xqqTX_g

[Spider]

I know McCains plan as well ........ If he gets elected he will keep the super rich rich , he will force all the common folk into work camps , slave wages to help corporate America , McCain will invite mexicans over to take all of the good jobs for alot less money , this will weaken America , we will have guns but cant afford ammo and when we are at our weakest point ........ Slam we all will have to do community service in the grand canyon ..Diabolical bastard ..

[tsiguy96]

come on some mccain supporter has to have an answer to this?

[Tombstone RJ]

come on some mccain supporter has to have an answer to this?

Hit the link to his web site, that is why I posted it.

[tsiguy96]

Hit the link to his web site, that is why I posted it.

then tell me why he has an entire organization of vietnam vets against him? or why he blocked a bill to help reveal the details of what happened to POW vets? does he have something to hide?

[TailgateNut]

I'm going to "jingle some keys" in his presence and watch him go "GAGA".

[tsiguy96]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbUUp8tVxIM

overwhelming evidence that john mccain is out of his ****ing mind. but go read johnmccain.com if it makes you feel better.

[tsiguy96]

bump until i get response

[TailgateNut]

...and I'll jingling my keys to keep McCain cowering in the corner.ROFL!

[Rohirrim]

Thanks for posting that, RJ. Based on some of McCain's earlier actions and words I knew he was a despicable individual, but now I see that he is even more closely aligned to the dismally failed, anti-Constitutional policies of the neocons than I even imagined. It's true what they say; McCain is just more Bush.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Thanks for posting that, RJ. Based on some of McCain's earlier actions and words I knew he was a despicable individual, but now I see that he is even more closely aligned to the dismally failed, anti-Constitutional policies of the neocons than I even imagined. It's true what they say; McCain is just more Bush.

QFT.

Tombstone sounds like one of those people who would vote for the Republican candidate no matter what - even if the GOP decided to nominate Mark Foley or Duke Cunningham.

It's all about brand loyalty.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[Tombstone RJ]

Thanks for posting that, RJ. Based on some of McCain's earlier actions and words I knew he was a despicable individual, but now I see that he is even more closely aligned to the dismally failed, anti-Constitutional policies of the neocons than I even imagined. It's true what they say; McCain is just more Bush.

Wow, so much angst, so little time, eh Ro?

Maybe I was wrong to praise any of your previously thought out posts.

[Tombstone RJ]

QFT.

Tombstone sounds like one of those people who would vote for the Republican candidate no matter what - even if the GOP decided to nominate Mark Foley or Duke Cunningham.

It's all about brand loyalty.

Nope, got the wrong poster. But, don't let my posts confuse you, I don't drink the Liberal Koolaide either.

My disdain for the GOP is only matched by my utter contemp for the Democratic party. Both suck azz royally, and I wouldn't join either party because each cater to extremists on both sides. Hence, both parties are flawed.

With all that said, I'm so very glad the LA Fakers got their azzes handed to them. Talk about a blowout....:rofl:

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I think McCain is going senile personally (he doesn't seem able to remember from year to year what he has said or done concerning the issues).

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Nope, got the wrong poster. But, don't let my posts confuse you, I don't drink the Liberal Koolaide either.

My disdain for the GOP is only matched by my utter contemp for the Democratic party. Both suck azz royally, and I wouldn't join either party because each cater to extremists on both sides. Hence, both parties are flawed.

With all that said, I'm so very glad the LA Fakers got their azzes handed to them. Talk about a blowout....:rofl:

A McClone supporter and a Celtics front runner?

Two strikes...

Ha!

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Thanks for posting that, RJ. Based on some of McCain's earlier actions and words I knew he was a despicable individual, but now I see that he is even more closely aligned to the dismally failed, anti-Constitutional policies of the neocons than I even imagined. It's true what they say; McCain is just more Bush.

Bush lives in his own little world, no doubt...
Bush rallies behind McCain at fundraising dinner (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080619/ap_on_el_pr/bush_2;_ylt=Ak0wfYam3lu6ijLOvbv2LXYE1vAI)
By BEN FELLER, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 15 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Seeking to energize party loyalists, President Bush on Wednesday gave his most extended public support to Sen. John McCain, his former foe for the White House. The president said McCain is the only candidate in the race who can face tough decisions and "will not flinch."

In a full-throated fundraising appearance for Republicans, Bush never mentioned the name of McCain's opponent in the presidential race, Democratic Sen. Barack Obama. But his critiques of Obama and Democratic leaders in Congress were clear as he turned their themes of "change" and "hope" against them.

Bush presided over an annual dinner at the cavernous Washington Convention Center, the last such fundraiser of his presidency. This one raised $21.5 million for Republican House and Senate candidates, an amount that easily topped last year's total but fell short of figures raised in earlier years.

The ostensible goal was to help the Republican Party win back Congress. In the House, where every seat is up for election this year, the Democrats hold an edge of 37 seats. In the Senate, where one-third of seats are on the ballot, the split is 49-49, with two independents who caucus with the Democrats.

Yet Bush put much of his energy in rallying support for McCain, mentioning his name time and again. McCain, the longtime Arizona senator, ran against Bush in 2000 but lost in the Republican primary. He eventually backed both of Bush's presidential bids and is getting the president's support in return.

"In trying times, America needs a president who has been tested and will not flinch," Bush told an audience of roughly 3,400 people.

"We need a president who has the experience and judgment to do what is right, even when it is not easy," Bush said. "We need a president who knows what it takes to defeat our enemies. And this year, there is only one man who has shown those qualities of leadership, and that man is John McCain."

Bush and McCain rarely appear in public together — the senator was campaigning in Missouri and Illinois on Wednesday — and Bush's speeches on his behalf tend to come at GOP fundraisers that are closed to the media.

Bush took the chance to sharply criticize a Supreme Court ruling that allows detainees in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to challenge their indefinite imprisonment in U.S. civilian courts. Obama applauded the decision, while McCain derided it as one of the worst decisions in the country's history.

"With this decision, hardened terrorists — hardened foreign terrorists — now enjoy certain legal rights previously reserved for American citizens," Bush said. "This is precisely the kind of judicial activism that frustrates the American people."

He said the best way to change that practice is to put Republicans in charge of the Senate and McCain at the helm of the White House.

Matthew Miller, a spokesman for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, said "all the campaign cash in the world won't fool voters into re-electing Republican senators who have overwhelmingly backed George Bush's failed agenda."
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[Tombstone RJ]

A McClone supporter and a Celtics front runner?

Two strikes...

Ha!

Yah, I know what my third strike is too... responding to anything you post.:P

[tsiguy96]

bump until RJ answers me :)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[Breaker]

then why did john mccain oppose the truth accountability bill (HR 3603)?
didnt want americans to find out what he really did in vietnam? the goal was to find records of americans who were POWs, and find any POWs that may still be alive. he killed the bill after it passed 401-0 in the house. now tell me, why would he do that?

funny how the man with a long "history of service" has a whole organization of vietnam vets against him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFM1xqqTX_g

I have a better question, why are you such an idiot, or are you just a liar?

The House Accountability Bill (HR 3603) was introduced on November 7, 1989, was sent to the House Committee on Government Operations on 11/7/1989 then sent to the Subcommittee on Legislation and National Security on 11/7/13. According to the Congressional record that was the last time any action was taken on HR 3603. That means that there was never a vote taken on the issue because it never made it out of committee so your claim that it passed 401-0 is a flat out lie, it was never even voted on as my search proves. The link of this search is below with the following criteria:

1. Limited to the 101st Congress (which was in session from January 3 of 1989 to January 3 of 1991.

2. Was limited to search for HR 3603

3. Was limited to search for bills that received floor action (was voted on)

4. Was limited to House Bills

Here are the results of that search: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas
(edit) (the link does not come up as valid becaus the search parameters are not saved, however if you go to http://thomas.loc.gov and follow my steps outlined above you will see the results yourself)

If you do the exact same search and replace the limited to bills that received floor action to ALL BILLS you get one hit:

HR 3603. "To direct the heads of Federal departments and agencies to disclose information concerning United States personnel classified as prisoners of war or missing in action from World War... (Introduced in House)[H.R.3603.IH]"

So this bill died in committee and was never voted on you lying piece of ****.

Now for the next part of your stupidity. I want you to tell me how a man who is United States Senator since 1987 personally killed a House of Representatives Bill that was never advanced to the Senate for vote in 1989.

I can already anticipate your mewling cry of he got it killed in the House of Representatives Committee so its his fault. I want proof that he got that bill killed in the House Committee from you, unless you are going to claim that for the first and only time in history a sitting Senator was appointed to a House Committee and killed it from within.

I bet $200 that you simply made up the # of 401-0 and counted that no one would call you out on your out right lie. I will even give you the benefit of the doubt that you believed you could explain the "missing" 34 votes as people that abstained from the vote or missed it, but then that would be giving you too much credit, wouldn't it?

How is that for a response you liar?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I have a better question, why are you such an idiot, or are you just a liar?

Still a bullsh*t slinger, I see.

He didn't say anything about whether the bill had been voted on or not - he asked why McSame was opposed to it.

[Spider]

Still a bullsh*t slinger, I see.

He didn't say anything about whether the bill had been voted on or not - he asked why McSame was opposed to it.

LOL minor detail

[Breaker]

Still a bullsh*t slinger, I see.

He didn't say anything about whether the bill had been voted on or not - he asked why McSame was opposed to it.

Hey idiot he said "he killed the bill after it passed 401-0 in the house. now tell me, why would he do that?"

That means two things:

1. That it passed a vote in the House .. which it did not.
2. That he "killed" it, or prevented it from being passed into law through some action of his when it was in the senate, which he did not.

Stick to posting cartoons and living off of others work, you obviously can not be involved in a conversation that requires any sort of thought.

[Spider]

Hey idiot he said "he killed the bill after it passed 401-0 in the house. now tell me, why would he do that?"

That means two things:

1. That it passed a vote in the House .. which it did not.
2. That he "killed" it, or prevented it from being passed into law through some action of his when it was in the senate, which he did not.

Stick to posting cartoons and living off of others work, you obviously can not be involved in a conversation that requires any sort of thought.

McCain Regulation ........ Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs ....

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Hey idiot he said "he killed the bill after it passed 401-0 in the house. now tell me, why would he do that?"


But jackass:

Anyone who is paying attention here can see you are trying to dodge his question, i.e., why did McCain oppose the bill?

Whether or not the bill came up for vote was not the question.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Stick to posting cartoons and living off of others(sic) work, you obviously can not(sic) be involved in a conversation that requires any sort of thought.

You're a barely-literate boob who wouldn't recognize rational thought if it bit you on the backside.

Watching you struggle to form coherent English sentences makes for some good comedy - keep it up. :laugh:

[Breaker]

McCain Regulation ........ Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs ....

Senate Select Committee and McCains role:

"The committee was responsible for getting the Department of Defense to declassify over one million pages of documents.[21] Kerry and McCain and others were able to get the Vietnamese government to give full access to their records.[21] The committee had full-time investigators or delegations stationed in Moscow and other parts of Russia, North Korea, and Southeast Asia.[22] In all, the committee would conduct over 1000 interviews, take over 200 sworn depositions, and hold over 200 hours of public hearings.[22] Some of the hearings were telecast on C-SPAN."

Give me some proof, either in an interview, voting record, or actual statement that proves he was against this open accountability, not just blogs and a special interest group.

[Spider]

Senate Select Committee and McCains role:

"The committee was responsible for getting the Department of Defense to declassify over one million pages of documents.[21] Kerry and McCain and others were able to get the Vietnamese government to give full access to their records.[21] The committee had full-time investigators or delegations stationed in Moscow and other parts of Russia, North Korea, and Southeast Asia.[22] In all, the committee would conduct over 1000 interviews, take over 200 sworn depositions, and hold over 200 hours of public hearings.[22] Some of the hearings were telecast on C-SPAN."

Give me some proof, either in an interview, voting record, or actual statement that proves he was against this open accountability, not just blogs and a special interest group.
And why should I jump through hoops to convience you of something you dont want to believe ?
I wont do all of that leg work , oh I could go to National Archives , come up with something , but that is too much work ....... either you believe these people or you dont ....... doesnt matter to me one way or the other .....
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[Spider]

watch the video all the way through 7 minutes and some odd seconds long , tell me those republicans in it are lying through their teeth

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain (http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/)

[Meck77]

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jul/01/charging-ahead-better-car-batteries/

Well he's certainly motivating some people in the car battery industry.

[The Lone Bolt]

Do you guys realize that LABF posted six times on this thread and NOT ONE OF THEM AN UNRELATED, RANDOM SHOT AT BUSH??Yikes!

You're losing your touch LA!;)

[Tombstone RJ]

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jul/01/charging-ahead-better-car-batteries/

Well he's certainly motivating some people in the car battery industry.

I like McCain's incentive to reward capitalism, not punish it with a "your making too much money" tax.

Also, if our economy goes towards battery power for transportation, then nuclear power plants are gonna be needed to produce the energy to charge all them batteries. Last time I checked, McCain wants more nuclear power plants asap.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Do you guys realize that LABF posted six times on this thread and NOT ONE OF THEM AN UNRELATED, RANDOM SHOT AT BUSH??Yikes!

You're losing your touch LA!;)

Do you realize that in a political discussion forum such as this one, no shot at Bush is "random" or "unrelated?"

Of course, it's clear why you would like us to think so: the survival of your party and your "movement" depends on creating as much distance from Bush as possible.

So, of course you're going to whine when someone connects dots between a given issue and your boy Dubya.

[The Lone Bolt]

Do you realize that in a political discussion forum such as this one, no shot at Bush is "random" or "unrelated?"

Of course, it's clear why you would like us to think so: the survival of your party and your "movement" depends on creating as much distance from Bush as possible.

So, of course you're going to whine when someone connects dots between a given issue and your boy Dubya.


"My" party and "my" movement? And what would that be LA?:kiddingme

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

"My" party and "my" movement? And what would that be LA?:kiddingme

GOP/conservative movement.

(But both of these obvioulsy play second fiddle to your loyalty to Bush, the neocons, and the PNAC nutjobs who thought invading Iraq was a good idea.)

[The Lone Bolt]

GOP/conservative movement.

(But both of these obvioulsy play second fiddle to your loyalty to Bush, the neocons, and the PNAC nutjobs who thought invading Iraq was a good idea.)

Funny I have never been a registered Republican. In fact, I'm pro-choice, against the "war on drugs", pro-gun control, against US dictator-coddling, pro-environment, and I'd like to see a more equitable economic system (reformed free-market, not socialist).

I consider myself a left-of-center pragmatist. But I can't define who I am only you can?

Does this work both ways? If I say you are a communist does that make you one no matter what you consider yourself?

I agree with the invasion of Iraq, and I'm not convinced that bush intentionally misled anyone on the prewar intel. That's about it. Otherwise I think he's an idiot. So if I part on two issues from popular left-wing views that makes me a "conservative?"

Don't you think you're stereotyping?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Funny I have never been a registered Republican. In fact, I'm pro-choice, against the "war on drugs", pro-gun control, against US dictator-coddling, pro-environment, and I'd like to see a more equitable economic system (reformed free-market, not socialist).

I consider myself a left-of-center pragmatist. But I can't define who I am only you can?

Does this work both ways? If I say you are a communist does that make you one no matter what you consider yourself?

I agree with the invasion of Iraq, and I'm not convinced that bush intentionally misled anyone on the prewar intel. That's about it. Otherwise I think he's an idiot. So if I part on two issues from popular left-wing views that makes me a "conservative?"

Don't you think you're stereotyping?

So tell me you didn't vote for Bush.

And if you support the invasion/occupation of Iraq then you are co-signing the neocons and PNAC whack jobs.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[Play2win]

So tell me you didn't vote for Bush.

And if you support the invasion/occupation of Iraq then you are co-signing the neocons and PNAC whack jobs.

What is the difference between a NEO-CON and a FACIST...


Really????

[The Lone Bolt]

So tell me you didn't vote for Bush.

And if you support the invasion/occupation of Iraq then you are co-signing the neocons and PNAC whack jobs.

I never voted for Bush (not that you'll believe me).

And admitting that conservatives can occasionally be right makes me a neo-con?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I never voted for Bush (not that you'll believe me).

Why the hell should I believe you when you've spent so much time and energy defending his policies here?

When you're the last man standing in defense of Bush's Iraq lies?

And admitting that conservatives can occasionally be right makes me a neo-con?

No, it doesn't.

However, like your sidekick W*GS, you seem to side with the conservatives in just about every debate that comes down the pike on this board.

I've certainly never seen you agree with any liberal on any issue.

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...