Voting Records for Obama & McCain

[Tombstone RJ]

http://www.votesmart.org/index.htm

Great site, lets you see how each senator has voted on every bill. It's amazing how many No Votes each senator has so it's kinda hard to tell where one candidate sits on a political issue, if he did not vote on that bill.

Anyhow, check it out.

[Tombstone RJ]

Wow, this is sad, how many people here who claim to be interested in McCain and Obama, yet nobody is looking at this post.

Lazy, lazy people is what we are.

Let's just flame off about a candidate because that is what the talking heads on TV want you to do, without actually doing the research ourselves.

[Tombstone RJ]

I think this person sums up the way I feel about Obama, at this point of his still young political career:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/140476

Posted By: kkhan @ 06/14/2008 9:23:20 AM

Comment: Don't get me wrong, I do not dislike Obama, he has interesting potentials but they need to be developed & tested on a wider scale in the political spectrum. Right now you have exagerrated his capabilities, this is what you will like him to be, but it is not who he really is. Let me tell you bluntly, I am no fool, foolish are the people who support Obama for president, foolish are the people who fell for his charm endorsed by his magnficent oratory skills. Let's examine his political exposure & see what we got. We have a rookie senator who is likeable, thus be became electable & that's all there is to it. Obama was able to convince his supporters that he has the solutions to the numerous problems facing the American nation, both national & international. In his campaign address to the public, Obama did what all politicans must do, tell the people what they want to hear & fortunately they believed that he will deliver in accordance with his campaign promises - perfectly normal. However, their belief is based not on his capabilities but on their admiration for him as a person, they developed a natural likeness for him, it cannot be explained better than that. Admiration is a powerful expression, it could take you to places where you do not deserve to be & this is exactly the case with Barack Obama.

[Spider]

Wow, this is sad, how many people here who claim to be interested in McCain and Obama, yet nobody is looking at this post.

Lazy, lazy people is what we are.

Let's just flame off about a candidate because that is what the talking heads on TV want you to do, without actually doing the research ourselves.

Just got done loading , I basically work 7 days a week , though i will take rest of the day off today , I will be back to work tomorrow ....... But I am looking at your site , not that it will change anyones mind , last 8 years have really stuck in peoples mind , 74% disapproval rating for Bush says it all ........

[Tombstone RJ]

Just got done loading , I basically work 7 days a week , though i will take rest of the day off today , I will be back to work tomorrow ....... But I am looking at your site , not that it will change anyones mind , last 8 years have really stuck in peoples mind , 74% disapproval rating for Bush says it all ........

I very much agree my good sir.:sunshine:

[Spider]

My main issue is energy ( hell I am a truckdriver ) so these 2 votes are high on my list .....
Obama ....
8 Amendment on Certain Energy-Related Programs, Including the Development of Oil Shale and Offshore Natural Gas
S Amdt 4207 to S Con Res 70 N Amendment Rejected - Senate
(47 - 51)
03/13/2008 Amendment on Certain Energy-Related Programs, Including the Development of Oil and Natural Gas in Coastal Areas Not Covered by a Moratorium
S Amdt 4329 to S Con Res 70 Y Amendment Adopted - Senate
(56 - 43)
Now McCain .....
Amendment on Certain Energy-Related Programs, Including the Development of Oil Shale and Offshore Natural Gas
S Amdt 4207 to S Con Res 70 NV Amendment Rejected - Senate
(47 - 51)
Amendment on Certain Energy-Related Programs, Including the Development of Oil and Natural Gas in Coastal Areas Not Covered by a Moratorium
S Amdt 4329 to S Con Res 70........
So as you can see I get 1 issue with Obama , I dont know what I get with McCain .....But I think Obama would be more willing ot work on Shale oil issue

[Spider]

They are both against drilling in ANWAR , as I am also , we have enough oil here in the 48 to carry us well over 50 years( very low ball Amount of years ) if we cut off Canada and Mexico suppling us , we can ship it refine it alot cheaper then ANWAR ..... I wish Obama would come to the shale oil side , but to many No Voted from McCain on Energy issues .....
I would like ot see more Nuclear plants , more clean coal plants also ..

[Tombstone RJ]

McCain is being somewhat slandered by the GOP because he very much tends to be pro-environment. At his last town hall meeting one of his main issues was alternative energy sources, and allowing companies to explore alternative fuels (hence no tax on windfall profits and lowering the corporate tax to 25% in order to incourage foreign companies to come to America with new ideas).

He wants more nuclear power plants and more off shore drilling. He also wants to get rid of the tarif on ethenol so countries like Brazil can import it.

In his last town hall meeting shown on Fox, he likened the hunt for alternative energy to Kennedy's putting the man on the moon in that, he believes if there is a concerted effort by American companies to get off foreign oil, it can be done quiet easily within 10 years.

Pretty cool stuff, I thought.

[Rohirrim]

What we really need to realize is that ethanol is only a good source when you are not using the number one feed grain of your food economy to fuel it. Of course, no candidate from either party will ever stop that locomotive, or even try to speak up against it. Not with ArcherDanielsMidland and others sitting at the controls. Brazil uses sugar cane. That's why it works for them. For us to use corn is so idiotic it's hard to fathom.

[Tombstone RJ]

What we really need to realize is that ethanol is only a good source when you are not using the number one feed grain of your food economy to fuel it. Of course, no candidate from either party will ever stop that locomotive, or even try to speak up against it. Not with ArcherDanielsMidland and others sitting at the controls. Brazil uses sugar cane. That's why it works for them. For us to use corn is so idiotic it's hard to fathom.

I agree 100%. Also, Brazil is maxed out and really doesn't have any extra ethanol to import to us. However, if other countries start producing ethanol via sugar cane, we may be able to import that stuff, sans the crappy tariff.

[Spider]

Dont lower the tarrifs , that will lead to more problems then what we have now , as for alt fuel , hey I am all for it , but right now it isnt a reality for what this country needs , Personal cars , taxis , other forms of light transportation could be used right now , but for heavy stuff we are years away . perhaps Diesel only fuel for oil right now ....
But we can drill our way out of this for 50 years at min..... My Beef with McCain is he really hasnt taken a stand on drilling ...... Even Obama wants to drill up section 181 ...... Just need ot get Obama on board with Shale oil

[BroncoBuff]

Wow, this is sad, how many people here who claim to be interested in McCain and Obama, yet nobody is looking at this post.

Lazy, lazy people is what we are.

Let's just flame off about a candidate because that is what the talking heads on TV want you to do, without actually doing the research ourselves.
The legislative process in Congress is such a sausage factory, it's borderline impossible to glean much from yes/no votes on bills that are often given phony and misleading titles like "The Clear Skies Act." And the capsule descriptions of what the legislation proposes can be equaly misleading. Read about the House Rules Committee and David Dreier.

I'm more concerned with the people each candidate propose to surround himself with. I would back the candidates naming propective cabinets during the campaign. Just as with McCain's choice to rely on sub-prime mortgage crisis enabler Phil Gramm, you can learn a lot from whom they choose as close advisors.

[Tombstone RJ]

The legislative process in Congress is such a sausage factory, it's borderline impossible to glean much from yes/no votes on bills that are often given phony and misleading titles like "The Clear Skies Act." And the capsule descriptions of what the legislation proposes can be equaly misleading. Read about the House Rules Committee and David Dreier.

I'm more concerned with the people each candidate propose to surround himself with. I would back the candidates naming propective cabinets during the campaign. Just as with McCain's choice to rely on sub-prime mortgage crisis enabler Phil Gramm, you can learn a lot from whom they choose as close advisors.

I agree, it's hard to know just what the hell are the issues on a bill until you get in it a dissect it a bit, which requires research on the part of the reader. However, the information is there, if a person is willing to take the time.

I also agree that it's paramount to know who the candidate is going to surround himself with once he reaches the highest office in the land. Bush's cabinet is a telling tale and says alot about his political philosophy.

I have not ruled out voting for Obama, but he's gotta quit with the "Sound and Fury Signifying Nothing" stuff and really get to brass tacks on issues.