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socalorado

06-03-2008, 08:02 AM

Didnt see it posted, so here ya go. Sorry if it already has been.

HENRY, SHANAHAN ALTERCATION PRECEDED RELEASE?

Posted by Mike Florio on June 3, 2008, 7:09 a.m. EDT
Rumors are swirling that the seemingly abrupt decision of the Broncos to cut running back Travis Henry was ultimately prompted by an altercation of some kind involving Henry and coach Mike Shanahan.

Though we’re not hearing that Henry pulled a Latrell Sprewell on the Broncos’ head coach, or that the incident in any way turned physical, several sources have told us that there was some type of unpleasant exchange between the two at some point within the past few weeks.

Presumably, the Broncos waited to cut Henry until after they got Michael Pittman under contract. If Henry had been cut before Pittman was signed, Pittman’s leverage would have increased.

And so the end result is that Shanahan has wasted another $6.7 million of owner Pat Bowlen’s money. Despite the apparent fact that the decision didn’t arise from Henry’s football skills, the reality that the Broncos were forced to part ways with Henry due to his attitude and/or off-field conduct further proves that Shanahan simply isn’t a good judge of character when it comes to football players.

But he’s definitely a good coach, because as a coach he continues to generally achieve at a relatively high level despite having one hand tied behind his back via his generally poor decisions in free agency and the draft.

I posted this simply to get it out of the way. Sorry, WOLF LEX, and TELL-U-CRY. What a douche florio is.

Northman

06-03-2008, 08:09 AM

Florio is just a little behind the times right now when it comes to understanding when Mr. Bowlen and Shanahan decided to clean house. Everything prior to this offseason is understood that there were some bad decisions made but that Bowlen and Shanahan are now cleaning house. How hard is it for Florio and company to understand this? Its not rocket science.

no-pseudo-fan

06-03-2008, 08:13 AM

Not really sure what to think. Henry is a scumbag, and he wasn't at the top of his game. What if he was? Would this have happened?

DelBronco

06-03-2008, 08:14 AM

So he's reporting that some people have told him that Shanny and Henry may have had an altercation of some kind over the past 2 weeks? Top notch journalism, really. He has no idea what happened, nor is he even sure that it did, but some people have informed him that something may have, so we're supposed to take his word for it. What an assclown.

fontaine

06-03-2008, 08:17 AM

TheReverend

06-03-2008, 08:42 AM

Shanahan just signed a life long woman beater in Micheal Pittman to replace Henry.

How's that for cleaning house?

Fixed that for you. Let's not add discrimation to the list of character defects. He'll gladly smack around any woman.

Edit: Removed the water spit smiley icon... was is in some pretty bad taste...

no-pseudo-fan

06-03-2008, 08:45 AM

Shanahan just signed a life long wife beater in Micheal Pittman to replace Henry.

How's that for cleaning house?

Now that would be interesting if Pittman and/or Shanahan would wear wife beaters to press conferences. Maybe it is just me, but I would enjoy that.

cmhargrove

06-03-2008, 08:48 AM

It wouldn't have even been a contest.

Shanahan would have flashed his gleaming pearly whites, blinding Travis. Then, he would hit him with a kidney shot, rabbit punch, round house, then kicked him in the babymaker.

Shanahan wins, and he won't tolerate pussies on his team...

TheReverend

06-03-2008, 08:49 AM

bronco militia

06-03-2008, 08:50 AM

IMO, Pittman will be lucky to make the roster.

TheReverend

06-03-2008, 08:52 AM

IMO, Pittman will be lucky to make the roster.

If they decide Selvin is the 1-2 down guy, Pittman will odds be the 3rd down back

cmhargrove

06-03-2008, 08:56 AM

IMO, Pittman will be lucky to make the roster.

Just a question, have you ever seen Pittman run?

I don't know what he has left in the tank but the dude can play. He's no world beater, but I think you will be impressed. He catches very well out of the backfield and takes off north and south. He doesn't juke, he hammers. When I watched him before, he never hesitated but ran straight for his hole. And he isn't slow, he does have some wheels.

If our O-line is doing well this year, you might be impressed with what Pittman brings to the table. I'm just sayin'...

cmhargrove

06-03-2008, 08:57 AM

Pun intended?

It's a mark of brilliance, I know. I just have to live with it.

fontaine

06-03-2008, 09:04 AM

Fixed that for you. Let's not add discrimation to the list of character defects. He'll gladly smack around any woman.

Thanks, I gave that scumbag far too much credit.

yerner

06-03-2008, 09:06 AM

Just a question, have you ever seen Pittman run?

I don't know what he has left in the tank but the dude can play. He's no world beater, but I think you will be impressed. He catches very well out of the backfield and takes off north and south. He doesn't juke, he hammers. When I watched him before, he never hesitated but ran straight for his hole. And he isn't slow, he does have some wheels.

If our O-line is doing well this year, you might be impressed with what Pittman brings to the table. I'm just sayin'...

Bro, this isn't 2001. Pittman has not been that impressive the last couple years. That is, when he was healthy enough to play. And he's 32.

bronco militia

06-03-2008, 09:15 AM

Just a question, have you ever seen Pittman run?

I don't know what he has left in the tank but the dude can play. He's no world beater, but I think you will be impressed. He catches very well out of the backfield and takes off north and south. He doesn't juke, he hammers. When I watched him before, he never hesitated but ran straight for his hole. And he isn't slow, he does have some wheels.

If our O-line is doing well this year, you might be impressed with what Pittman brings to the table. I'm just sayin'...

I figured Pittman would take advantage of Cadillac Williams injury, but Earnest Graham emerged instead. I'm not sure he has much left in the tank other than to be a backup.

Jason in LA

06-03-2008, 09:15 AM

This guy writes for PFT.com, right? When I read the title of this thread the first thing I thought was PFT.com. Why do people read that tabloid?

TheReverend

06-03-2008, 09:15 AM

Bro, this isn't 2001. Pittman has not been that impressive the last couple years. That is, when he was healthy enough to play. And he's 32.

But he's healthy enough and experienced enough to be valuable pass-pro... hence the 3rd down title.

lex

06-03-2008, 09:58 AM

Didnt see it posted, so here ya go. Sorry if it already has been.

HENRY, SHANAHAN ALTERCATION PRECEDED RELEASE?

Posted by Mike Florio on June 3, 2008, 7:09 a.m. EDT
Rumors are swirling that the seemingly abrupt decision of the Broncos to cut running back Travis Henry was ultimately prompted by an altercation of some kind involving Henry and coach Mike Shanahan.

Though we’re not hearing that Henry pulled a Latrell Sprewell on the Broncos’ head coach, or that the incident in any way turned physical, several sources have told us that there was some type of unpleasant exchange between the two at some point within the past few weeks.

Presumably, the Broncos waited to cut Henry until after they got Michael Pittman under contract. If Henry had been cut before Pittman was signed, Pittman’s leverage would have increased.

And so the end result is that Shanahan has wasted another $6.7 million of owner Pat Bowlen’s money. Despite the apparent fact that the decision didn’t arise from Henry’s football skills, the reality that the Broncos were forced to part ways with Henry due to his attitude and/or off-field conduct further proves that Shanahan simply isn’t a good judge of character when it comes to football players.

But he’s definitely a good coach, because as a coach he continues to generally achieve at a relatively high level despite having one hand tied behind his back via his generally poor decisions in free agency and the draft.

In other news, Mike Shanahan is not the head football coach of the Michigan Wolverines.

cmhargrove

06-03-2008, 09:59 AM

Bro, this isn't 2001. Pittman has not been that impressive the last couple years. That is, when he was healthy enough to play. And he's 32.

I completely agree he isn't a starter, and won't be making regular highlights on ESPN. However, for vet minimum, I believe he can serve a good role for this young team. If he can pound out a few hard 3rd downs (ala Mike Anderson), and get four TD's (ala Travis Henry), then he has a place on the squad and can fulfill a role.

Many think he won't make the final roster, I think he does because of his experience, and his ability to protect Cutler.

Remember, our starting squad now has lots of talent, but little experience (except for Pittman). I think that alone gives him a solid shot at being on the field. We'll see in TC how far his skills have eroded.

RaiderH8r

06-03-2008, 10:48 AM

Pittman may serve a purpose yet but it remains to be seen. On it's face, today, he looks to be a solid option for 3rd and 5. He can pick it up running, he can take it on a swing pass, he can offer some protection, he can do it on a screen. Depending on how our rooks come along in addition to Selvin (who also is a stunner when in space on a swing or screen) this may end up just fine. The more I hear people rave about Torain and the more I learn about him the more excited I am to see if he has the goods. I've been itching for a hammer back with 4.5 speed for awhile. Well...at least one that had some tread left on the tires when he came to our shop.

Northman

06-03-2008, 11:01 AM

Shanahan just signed a life long wife beater in Micheal Pittman to replace Henry.

How's that for cleaning house?

Life long? Ive only seen one incident on his record. If you have more to add please show me.

Bob's your Information Minister

06-03-2008, 11:07 AM

Just another brick in Shanny's pathetic post-Elway wall.

TheReverend

06-03-2008, 11:11 AM

Just another brick in Shanny's pathetic post-Elway wall.

Says the Carl Peterson "wall of shame"

bowtown

06-03-2008, 11:13 AM

Just another brick in Shanny's pathetic post-Elway wall.

Just another piece of sh!t on Bob's worthless post troll hut.

TheReverend

06-03-2008, 11:15 AM

Life long? Ive only seen one incident on his record. If you have more to add please show me.

I'm indifferent to the whole signing but he IS right.

The wife claimed that there's been 40-50 times she hasn't reported.

Pop open a Marshall thread and you'll find I'm not one for the he-said/she-said game so I won't put too much faith into her word... especially if she's dumb enough to be beaten 50 times and NOT report them, but at Fresno he did choke his girlfriend and slam her head into the seat cushion repeatedly.

cmhargrove

06-03-2008, 11:16 AM

Just another brick in Shanny's pathetic post-Elway wall.

Honestly Bob, is that all you've got? You're losing your skills...

Northman

06-03-2008, 11:17 AM

but at Fresno he did choke his girlfriend and slam her head into the seat cushion repeatedly.

There should be a record on that correct? Do you have a link of the arrest?

fontaine

06-03-2008, 11:18 AM

Life long? Ive only seen one incident on his record. If you have more to add please show me.

Numerous incidents spread across years from college to the pros with his wife claiming that many went unreported to the authorities.

Kreiger has something on it in the RMN. Sorry but I don't want to drudge through that crap again so look for yourself.

bronco militia

06-03-2008, 11:19 AM

worry about it later if he makes the final roster

Northman

06-03-2008, 11:26 AM

Numerous incidents spread across years from college to the pros with his wife claiming that many went unreported to the authorities.

Kreiger has something on it in the RMN. Sorry but I don't want to drudge through that crap again so look for yourself.

Well, i only see one incident reported on his record and thats what im going with. Unless it shows up on his record as a constant problem i dont consider him a character issue. Especially since ive havent heard anything since 2001. Rod Smith had an incident as well so i guess he is a disgrace to the Bronco uniform too.

Bob's your Information Minister

06-03-2008, 11:52 AM

Honestly Bob, is that all you've got? You're losing your skills...

Shanny and I both...

RaiderH8r

06-03-2008, 12:04 PM

Just another brick in Shanny's pathetic post-Elway wall.

Shanny's bricks barely fill a wheel barrow while KC's bricks rival the big wall in China.

TheReverend

06-03-2008, 12:08 PM

There should be a record on that correct? Do you have a link of the arrest?

Here's two here:

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/06/02/Columns/Bucs__isn_t_it_past_t.shtml

Bucs, isn't it (past) time to cut Pittman?
By GARY SHELTON
Published June 2, 2003

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In the wake of violence, there are questions to be asked. In the aftermath of rage, there are answers to be sought.

In the matter of Michael Pittman, however, this is what you keep coming back to:

Why is this guy still a Buc?

Let everyone else unravel the details. Let the law worry about jail time, and let the league worry about suspension time. Let someone else sort through the excuses and the explanations. Around here, there is a simpler question:

Why is this guy still employed?

It has been hours now since news of the latest arrest of Pittman has reached the offices of One Buc Place. There has been plenty of time to release Pittman and launch the search for a replacement. Doesn't Jon Gruden get to work about 3:17 a.m.? Why then, did Pittman last past 3:30?

After all, this is Pittman's third strike. According to Phoenix police, an enraged Pittman rammed his Hummer into a Mercedes containing his wife, Melissa; his 2-year-old son, Mycah; and the family's 18-year-old babysitter. Pittman, who was arrested and charged in 2001 and in 1997 in domestic violence incidents, faces a possible six felony counts for Saturday's incident.

How many, exactly, are the Bucs waiting for?

How can any team tolerate this? How can it try to spin things to say that, hey, it's just waiting for due process and all? How can it assure its fans that when it talks about standards, it isn't just making noise.

Answer: This time, it can't.

The next few days are going to be crucial for the Bucs, a team that has dealt with its troubles this offseason by saying no comment until the questions went away. This time, people are watching.

If the Bucs don't release Pittman, what they're saying to their players is this: keep getting first downs, and we don't care what your legal problems are.

It is one thing to talk about how much you oppose domestic violence when it happens to another player on another team a thousand miles away, or when it is an untalented free agent who stands accused. The less it threatens a team, the easier it is to get to the high moral ground.

But when the player involved is the starting tailback, who is coming off a great game in a Super Bowl victory, who doesn't have a proven backup, is a team willing to stand for less?

We'll see.

It comes to this. A sports team has to stand for something grander than its won-loss record. It has to represent higher standards and greater goals. That's why so many fans have bonded with players such as Derrick Brooks, John Lynch and Ronde Barber over the years.

If an organization is going to say such players stand for it, however, it cannot stand for those who have a history of meltdowns such as Pittman's. You cannot bask in the glow of the good graces of some players and act as if the misdeeds of others have no affect.

When the Bucs signed Pittman last year, they swore they had done their background work, and they were comfortable in giving Pittman a chance. Ask yourself: After this, does Pittman deserve another one?

No, it wouldn't be easy to find another back in June, not even one as good as the exceedingly average Pittman. For most of last season, Pittman was a disappointment, an erect running back who lacked vision and instincts. One scout suggested that whenever he saw Pittman run the Mexican Hat Dance tune ran through his head.

Still, Pittman gained 124 yards in Super Bowl XXXVII, and there is no one else who looks like an every-down tailback on the roster. Not a lot of teams drafted running backs high this year, which means not a lot of teams are throwing backs away this June. The best names on the block appear to be Ron Dayne and Thomas Jones.

Certain things, however, are intolerable. The Bucs will manage with or without Pittman. Make a trade. Start Aaron Stecker. Unleash Travis Stephens. Something.

It's sad. Pittman is one of those players who makes you expect more of him. You see the swollen muscles and you want to believe he's a great back waiting to happen. You hear his soft voice and you want to believe him when he says prior police reports don't tell the true story of what happened.

So what happened this time, Mike? Did you bump fenders going for the same parking place? Were you trying to drum up business for the poor fellows at Maaco? What?

This is the third time Pittman has been arrested on domestic violence charges, however, and there was the 1994 report in college at Fresno State that he had a physical altercation with a woman, though no charges were filed. After a while, are we to believe that everyone else is making stuff up? That everyone is out to get Pittman?

Today, a lot of people are asking questions. That's our nature. We see an unreasonable act, and we want a reasonable explanation. We try to make sense out of a situation where none is available.

What leads a man to this kind of rage? How badly does someone have to lose it before he would ram his car into one that contained his wife and son? How afraid must his child have been? And how long before it all happens again?

Let other people find the answers. Let the law do what it should, and let the league do what it must.

For the Bucs, however, there is only one answer.

Cut him.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1768461

Domestic violence, assault charges dropped
Associated Press

Updated: March 25, 2004, 9:10 PM ET
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MESA, Ariz. -- Tampa Bay running back Michael Pittman pleaded guilty Thursday to one count of endangerment following charges he used his Hummer to ram a car carrying his wife, 2-year-old son and a baby sitter.

In exchange for pleading guilty, charges of aggravated assault and aggravated domestic violence were dropped.

Under a plea agreement Pittman struck with prosecutors, he could be sentenced to a maximum of three years supervised probation and up to a year in jail. He also faces a maximum fine of $150,000.

Pittman, who refused comment as he left the courtroom, is scheduled to be sentenced April 23.

Pittman was indicted in June on two counts of aggravated assault for ramming his Hummer into a Mercedes carrying his wife, Melissa, his 2-year-old son, and baby sitter Kristina Hegland in May near Pittman's home in Phoenix.

No one was hurt, but the crash pushed the car over a median and tore one of the tires from its rim. Authorities said the cause involved a disagreement about taking the child to training camp.

Pittman was previously convicted of domestic violence in July 2001.

Because last year's crash fell within five years of Pittman's previous domestic violence convictions, prosecutors were able to file an additional charge of aggravated domestic violence, officials said.

After Thursday's hearing, Melissa Pittman's attorney Jason Lamm said she had "a bad taste in her mouth" about the prosecution.

Pittman played four seasons with the Arizona Cardinals. He signed with Tampa Bay as a free agent in 2002.

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So there's 4 DOCUMENTED instances for ya, Anubis. 1994 choking the girl at Fresno, then 3 more times of being arrested for domestic abuse. One time pleading guilty to knock it down to "endangerment" when all the poor guy did was ram the vehicle containing his wife/babysitter/and INFANT with his hummer.

yerner

06-03-2008, 12:09 PM

I'll conceed, Pittman may bring something that the other backs don't have on third down. But again, we're looking at a guy that's 32 and has done much of anything the last 3 years.

no-pseudo-fan

06-03-2008, 12:12 PM

Just another brick in Shanny's pathetic post-Elway wall.

How many bricks are in the post-Len Dawson wall?

RaiderH8r

06-03-2008, 12:15 PM

How many bricks are in the post-Len Dawson wall?

About this many....

http://www.friendlyplanet.com/images/china-great-wall-big.jpg

more or less.

400HZ

06-03-2008, 12:17 PM

It sounds like Shanahan would be crazy to count on anything from Pittman except maybe a few legal headaches. He's banking on Selvin Young, Andre Hall, and Ryan Torrain this year, plus whatever udfa emerges.

Bronco Jamus

06-03-2008, 12:20 PM

Pittman is a sledge hammer. He'll play.

boltaneer

06-03-2008, 12:31 PM

I've seen just about every Tampa Bay game in the past six years or so.

Pittman has the uncanny ability to not see the gaping hole right next to him and run right in the back of one of his o-lineman. At least once a game, he also seems to trip in the open field without a defender within ten yards of him. It's pretty amazing.

BroncoFiend

06-03-2008, 12:42 PM

When I first heard we had signed Pittman, I was disappointed because of his legal issues.

However, I found it interesting that the local sports radio hosts here in Tampa, all were chiming in about how disapointed they were to lose Pittman and that he really has turned his life around and was a great presence in the locker room.

Take it for what it's worth, it's just what I have heard around here.

Spider

06-03-2008, 12:46 PM

Meh ....

Cito Pelon

06-03-2008, 12:52 PM

Shanny discussing Henry & Pittman on the radio this AM . . . . . . .

http://www.fm1043thefan.com/theSportsGuys/podcasts.cfm

Shanny is so full of baloney.

BlaK-Argentina

06-03-2008, 12:57 PM

Just another brick in Shanny's pathetic post-Elway wall.

Seriously, get a life man.

jonny1

06-03-2008, 12:59 PM

Pittman has been a "good" boy legally for 5 years now.

I'm not thrilled about his past, but maybe he has changed, since his wife is still with him and all.

Northman

06-03-2008, 01:26 PM

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So there's 4 DOCUMENTED instances for ya, Anubis. 1994 choking the girl at Fresno, then 3 more times of being arrested for domestic abuse. One time pleading guilty to knock it down to "endangerment" when all the poor guy did was ram the vehicle containing his wife/babysitter/and INFANT with his hummer.

So he essentially has a history of being accused of a crime but yet only has one on his record. Interesting. Never the less, i have to agree with some of the others that he probably wont even make the final roster given his age.

Northman

06-03-2008, 01:28 PM

Kaylore

06-03-2008, 01:31 PM

Remember to post links with all articles.

TheReverend

06-03-2008, 01:39 PM

So he essentially has a history of being accused of a crime but yet only has one on his record. Interesting. Never the less, i have to agree with some of the others that he probably wont even make the final roster given his age.

So you consider pleading guilty to ramming your wife, infant and babysitter with a Hummer NOT being domestic abuse?

cmhargrove

06-03-2008, 01:47 PM

cmhargrove

06-03-2008, 01:48 PM

Shanny and I both...

But Bob, Shanahan has a 34,927 square foot home - et toi?

Northman

06-03-2008, 01:51 PM

So you consider pleading guilty to ramming your wife, infant and babysitter with a Hummer NOT being domestic abuse?

No, im not saying that. In fact i have to correct myself on one thing. I thought the Hummer incident was 2001 but it was actually 2003 and he pleaded down in 2004. But that incident seems to be the only thing on his criminal record. But again, this is 4 years ago. It would seem (at least right now) that he has kept himself out of trouble the last 4 years which i have no problem with. People make mistakes and looks like he had some real growing up to do. But its not like he is coming in with a lot of recent baggage like Henry was. You could probably find a lot of players who have some sort of baggage in their past. As a fan im only concerned how he is behaving in the here and now. I did some stupid things when i was young and im not the same person i was then so people can change. You dont feel that 4 years is adequate enough in terms of a new start?

elsid13

06-03-2008, 01:51 PM

There should be a record on that correct? Do you have a link of the arrest?

It was just reported on RMN.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jun/02/krieger-character-flaws-cost-henry/

While attending Fresno State in 1997, Pittman was arrested for allegedly holding a former girlfriend by the neck and slamming her face into a car seat, according to The Associated Press. He was sentenced to a batterer's treatment program and two years' probation.

In the summer of 2001, as a member of the Arizona Cardinals, he was again arrested on domestic violence charges, after which the Cardinals released him, according to the AP.

In May 2003, as a member of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Pittman was arrested in Phoenix and charged with ramming his Hummer into his wife's Mercedes, which was carrying his wife, baby sitter and 2-year-old son at the time.

The St. Petersburg Times reported that Pittman's wife, Melissa, told investigators she was subjected to 30 or 40 incidents of domestic violence she never reported to police.

So cutting Travis Henry was not a statement about character so much as a choice between character flaws. It was Henry's bad luck that his character flaw - a con man's fixation on serving himself - happens to be a locker room liability, too.

Here you go: from another source http://www.sptimes.com/2003/06/02/Columns/Bucs__isn_t_it_past_t.shtml

"This is the third time Pittman has been arrested on domestic violence charges, however, and there was the 1994 report in college at Fresno State that he had a physical altercation with a woman, though no charges were filed. After a while, are we to believe that everyone else is making stuff up? That everyone is out to get Pittman"

TheReverend

06-03-2008, 01:57 PM

No, im not saying that. In fact i have to correct myself on one thing. I thought the Hummer incident was 2001 but it was actually 2003 and he pleaded down in 2004. But that incident seems to be the only thing on his criminal record. But again, this is 4 years ago. It would seem (at least right now) that he has kept himself out of trouble the last 4 years which i have no problem with. People make mistakes and looks like he had some real growing up to do. But its not like he is coming in with a lot of recent baggage like Henry was. You could probably find a lot of players who have some sort of baggage in their past. As a fan im only concerned how he is behaving in the here and now. I did some stupid things when i was young and im not the same person i was then so people can change. You dont feel that 4 years is adequate enough in terms of a new start?

No, his "domestic abuse" conviction was in 2001. Ramming your infant with a hummer is a-okay, and so is choking a woman and slamming her face into the car seat, lol. Those were busted down to lesser charges by plea bargaining.

Northman

06-03-2008, 01:58 PM

It was just reported on RMN.

Here you go: from another source http://www.sptimes.com/2003/06/02/Columns/Bucs__isn_t_it_past_t.shtml

"This is the third time Pittman has been arrested on domestic violence charges, however, and there was the 1994 report in college at Fresno State that he had a physical altercation with a woman, though no charges were filed. After a while, are we to believe that everyone else is making stuff up? That everyone is out to get Pittman"

He said/She said. Sorry mate. If he is guilty than there should be a charge on his record. Do i actually believe he is innocent? No. But that was in the past and as stated by some people recently it sounds like the guy has changed himself the last 4 years and thats what you have to look at. Im more concerned with recent history.

TheReverend

06-03-2008, 02:01 PM

Northman

06-03-2008, 02:05 PM

You think they hand out 2 years of probation without a charge on his record? Have another one, dude.

Ok, lets scratch the whole charge on record. Ive only seen one listed this is why ive asked for links that show his criminal record and whats on it. The links you have given me claim that the charges were dropped. But, for arguements sake i will give in that they actually are there. The bottom line is those happened years ago. The most recent was 4 years ago. As ive stated, he isnt bringing any recent baggage to this team is what i and most likely the Broncos organization is more concerned about.

elsid13

06-03-2008, 02:13 PM

Ok, lets scratch the whole charge on record. Ive only seen one listed this is why ive asked for links that show his criminal record and whats on it. The links you have given me claim that the charges were dropped. But, for arguements sake i will give in that they actually are there. The bottom line is those happened years ago. The most recent was 4 years ago. As ive stated, he isnt bringing any recent baggage to this team is what i and most likely the Broncos organization is more concerned about.

Let be honest, I think that NFL really turns a blind eye to domestic violence. And if a guy can help a team win, they aren't going to make a big deal about unless something literally becomes a public issue.

Northman

06-03-2008, 02:19 PM

Let be honest, I think that NFL really turns a blind eye to domestic violence. And if a guy can help a team win, they aren't going to make a big deal about unless something literally becomes a public issue.

Im sure the NFL turns a blind eye to just about everything much like the rest of the sports nation does.

Don Flamenco

06-03-2008, 02:23 PM

Tatum Bell on steroids?

Wrong. Tatum Bell trips over finger tackles!

Bronco Jamus

06-03-2008, 02:41 PM

Rod Smith put his wife on the floor and choked her and got his life right. There is no reason to believe that Pittman hasn't accomplished the same control.

Ambiguous

06-03-2008, 03:33 PM

Just another brick in Shanny's pathetic post-Elway wall.

DUDE I THOUGHT YOU WERE COOL AND RICH BUT NOW I SEE THAT YOU ARE A STUCK UP SNOB JUST LIKE THE REST OF THOSE RICH LOSERS LOL COUNTRY CLUB. DUDE I HOPE YOUR CAT JUMPS UP ON YOUR STEREO CABINET WEARING A SPIKED COLLAR AND THEN A LITTLE EARTHQUAKE HITS AND THEN YOUR TV FALLS ON YOUR CAT AND HE GETS KILLED AND THEN HIS SPIKED COLLAR STABS YOUR TV AND THEN THE CAT CARCASS GETS ELECTRICUTED AND MELTS ONTO THE BROKE TV SCREEN AND THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT BACK TO BEST BUY IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY WITH A BROKE TV WITH A DEAD CAT STICKING OUT OF IT AND THEN TRY TO EXPLAIN TO THE MANAGER THAT YOU WERENT SATISFIED WITH THE PICTURE QUALITY AND YOU WANT A REFUND LOL LAUGHING STOCK. DUDE THEN I HOPE THAT WHEN THE MANAGER TELLS YOU TO GET YOUR SMELLY ASS OUT OF THE STORE IN SPANISH YOU GO A LITTLE CRAZY AND START HUGGING AND KISSING YOUR TVCAT AND THEN SOME PLASMA GETS ON YOUR FACE AND IN YOUR MOUTH AND YOU GET A BAD RASH AND YOUR EYES SWELL UP AND THEN YOU GET SCARED AND RUN OUT OF BEST BUY AND PUT YOUR TVCAT IN THE BACKSEAT AND THEN TRY TO DRIVE TO THE HOSPITAL BUT SINCE YOUR BLINDED YOU ACCIDENTALLY DRIVE TO THE VW DEALER AND SAY HELP ME HELP ME MY TVCAT BLINDED MY FACE AND BURNED MY EYES BUT BECAUSE YOU ARE SOBBING THEY THOUGHT YOU SAID I HATE MY AUDI AND I WANT AN 83 JETTA SO THEY PUT YOUR CAR UP ON THE LIFT AND TAKE ALL THE BODY PANELS OFF AND PUT ON 83 JETTA BODY PANELS WITH RUST AND SALT AND DENTS ON THEM AND THEY WERE AMAZED BY HOW EASY THE PARTS FIT AND THEN SINCE THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED WITH CUSTOMER SATISAFACTION THEY GIVE YOU A FREE CUP OF FRESH COFFEE BUT SINCE YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE IN A HOSPITAL YOU THOUGHT IT WAS OINTMENT SO YOU POURED THE CUP ON YOUR FACE AND BURNED YOUR SKIN AGAIN AND THEN YOU CRIED SOME MORE AND THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE TEARS OF JOY WHEN YOU SAW HOW THEY FIXED YOUR CAR SO THEY PUT YOU IN YOUR AUDI 83 JETTA AND YOU THOUGHT IT WAS THE LIFEFLIGHT HELICOPTER SO YOU STARTED TO LAY DOWN AND THEN YOU PUSHED THE GAS PEDAL WITH YOUR FOOT AND DROVE ACROSS THE STREET INTO THE BACK OF THE COSTCO BUILDING INTO THE WAREHOUSE WHERE YOUR OLD TV WAS STORED TO BE SHIPPED AWAY AND YOU HIT THE SHELF AND YOUR OLD TV FELL OUT AND BROKE THROUGH YOUR WINDSHIELD AND CUT UP YOUR OUTFIT AND BROKE YOUR HAND LOL KARMA IS A BITCH

BMF Bronco

06-03-2008, 03:48 PM

Wtf?!

Bob's your Information Minister

06-03-2008, 03:50 PM

How amusing.

elsid13

06-03-2008, 03:57 PM

Wtf?!

Breezer is now living in SD.

TheReverend

06-03-2008, 04:54 PM

DUDE I THOUGHT YOU WERE COOL AND RICH BUT NOW I SEE THAT YOU ARE A STUCK UP SNOB JUST LIKE THE REST OF THOSE RICH LOSERS LOL COUNTRY CLUB. DUDE I HOPE YOUR CAT JUMPS UP ON YOUR STEREO CABINET WEARING A SPIKED COLLAR AND THEN A LITTLE EARTHQUAKE HITS AND THEN YOUR TV FALLS ON YOUR CAT AND HE GETS KILLED AND THEN HIS SPIKED COLLAR STABS YOUR TV AND THEN THE CAT CARCASS GETS ELECTRICUTED AND MELTS ONTO THE BROKE TV SCREEN AND THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT BACK TO BEST BUY IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY WITH A BROKE TV WITH A DEAD CAT STICKING OUT OF IT AND THEN TRY TO EXPLAIN TO THE MANAGER THAT YOU WERENT SATISFIED WITH THE PICTURE QUALITY AND YOU WANT A REFUND LOL LAUGHING STOCK. DUDE THEN I HOPE THAT WHEN THE MANAGER TELLS YOU TO GET YOUR SMELLY ASS OUT OF THE STORE IN SPANISH YOU GO A LITTLE CRAZY AND START HUGGING AND KISSING YOUR TVCAT AND THEN SOME PLASMA GETS ON YOUR FACE AND IN YOUR MOUTH AND YOU GET A BAD RASH AND YOUR EYES SWELL UP AND THEN YOU GET SCARED AND RUN OUT OF BEST BUY AND PUT YOUR TVCAT IN THE BACKSEAT AND THEN TRY TO DRIVE TO THE HOSPITAL BUT SINCE YOUR BLINDED YOU ACCIDENTALLY DRIVE TO THE VW DEALER AND SAY HELP ME HELP ME MY TVCAT BLINDED MY FACE AND BURNED MY EYES BUT BECAUSE YOU ARE SOBBING THEY THOUGHT YOU SAID I HATE MY AUDI AND I WANT AN 83 JETTA SO THEY PUT YOUR CAR UP ON THE LIFT AND TAKE ALL THE BODY PANELS OFF AND PUT ON 83 JETTA BODY PANELS WITH RUST AND SALT AND DENTS ON THEM AND THEY WERE AMAZED BY HOW EASY THE PARTS FIT AND THEN SINCE THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED WITH CUSTOMER SATISAFACTION THEY GIVE YOU A FREE CUP OF FRESH COFFEE BUT SINCE YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE IN A HOSPITAL YOU THOUGHT IT WAS OINTMENT SO YOU POURED THE CUP ON YOUR FACE AND BURNED YOUR SKIN AGAIN AND THEN YOU CRIED SOME MORE AND THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE TEARS OF JOY WHEN YOU SAW HOW THEY FIXED YOUR CAR SO THEY PUT YOU IN YOUR AUDI 83 JETTA AND YOU THOUGHT IT WAS THE LIFEFLIGHT HELICOPTER SO YOU STARTED TO LAY DOWN AND THEN YOU PUSHED THE GAS PEDAL WITH YOUR FOOT AND DROVE ACROSS THE STREET INTO THE BACK OF THE COSTCO BUILDING INTO THE WAREHOUSE WHERE YOUR OLD TV WAS STORED TO BE SHIPPED AWAY AND YOU HIT THE SHELF AND YOUR OLD TV FELL OUT AND BROKE THROUGH YOUR WINDSHIELD AND CUT UP YOUR OUTFIT AND BROKE YOUR HAND LOL KARMA IS A b****

that was much funnier the first time.

Popps

06-03-2008, 04:55 PM

resumably, the Broncos waited to cut Henry until after they got Michael Pittman under contract.

We had to be 100% sure we had a talentless douche-bag to replace him before we made the move.

Nice work, Mike! You've learned your lesson... huh buddy!?

broncocalijohn

06-03-2008, 05:00 PM

Ambiguous

06-03-2008, 05:41 PM

that was much funnier the first time.

It's always funny ;)

ZONA

06-03-2008, 05:54 PM

Forget Pitman. For that matter, Selvin better hope he has a great camp too. Every RB on this team better keep one eye on Ryan because he will sneak right in there and take the job away from everybody else. I'll call it right now, this guy WILL be the starter by regular season game #1. I watched him for years at ASU and he's got the toughness and passion to excel at this level. He was made for this offense. Don't believe me now, just wait and you will see later.

Hogan11

06-04-2008, 12:36 AM

Bottom line: You don't cross the boss.

fontaine

06-04-2008, 04:45 AM

He said/She said. Sorry mate. If he is guilty than there should be a charge on his record. Do i actually believe he is innocent? No. But that was in the past and as stated by some people recently it sounds like the guy has changed himself the last 4 years and thats what you have to look at. Im more concerned with recent history.

F__K Michael Pittman and anyone who's offering to give this scumbag another chance in Denver.

He can get all the chances he wants by openly and honestly working with the community and other groups to raise awareness and prevention of spousal abuse if he really has changed himself.

I just don't want him anywhere near my football team.

Pseudofool

06-04-2008, 05:52 AM

Northman

06-04-2008, 08:13 AM

I just don't want him anywhere near my football team.

Guess your too late, he's already here.

montrose

06-04-2008, 08:57 AM

Pittman's camp fodder if Torrain/Young/Hall can't prove healthy. Signing Alexander would have carried an implicit guarantee of carries--with Pittman, if everyone else proves healhty--we can throw the bad seed into the weeds.

I think people are forgetting with Hillis you have Sapp back at HB. We just need redundancy until the young backs prove healthy. Here's betting Pittman's days as a Bronco don't last into September.

With Sapp (and Hills for that matter) both capable of HB duties, it will make it that much harder for Pittman or Mike Bell to make the team. Also, the Broncos are trying Spencer Larsen at FB which makes the group that much more intriguing. I would personally like to see the Broncos go with Young, Hall, Torain and Bell at HB and Hillis and Sapp at FB. I know Bell seems to be a dead man walking to most people, but I'd rather keep him than Pittman as I still believe Bell could provide some value in the long-run whereas Pittman is nothing more than a stop-gap backup.

Dr. Broncenstein

06-04-2008, 09:01 AM

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fontaine

06-04-2008, 11:17 AM

Guess your too late, he's already here.

No kidding. Hopefully this scum will be one of the first cuts and those who embraced him coming into Denver can start looking for their next "character" guy.

Orange_Beard

06-04-2008, 11:18 AM

Henry knocked up Shanny's wife?

Just a guess.

TheReverend

06-04-2008, 11:29 AM

Henry knocked up Shanny's wife?

Just a guess.

I would absolutely LOVE to get my hands on Krystal Shanahan (the daughter).

RaiderH8r

06-04-2008, 02:54 PM

Wrong. Tatum Bell trips over finger tackles!

I once yelled "Tackle" at Tatum Bell and he went down...I'm that imposing.

Atlas

06-04-2008, 02:55 PM

Fixed that for you. Let's not add discrimation to the list of character defects. He'll gladly smack around any woman.

Edit: Removed the water spit smiley icon... was is in some pretty bad taste...

It's been 5 years since Pittman has had an offield incident.

Atlas

06-04-2008, 02:56 PM

Henry knocked up Shanny's wife?

Just a guess.

That is funny!!!! I'd rep you if I knew how!!!